Sunday, July 4th, 2010 at 1:09 pm  |  66 responses

Jefferson To Warriors, Lee To Wolves, Ellis To Knicks?

According to the NY Post, the Knicks may bring in Monta Ellis as part of a three-way trade. If a sign-and-trade is immanent, Ellis would at least be great in D’Antoni’s system: “When Stoudemire becomes official, it would end the five-year era of David Lee, but set up a possibility of a sign-and-trade to add another piece. There’s been rumors of a three-way trade talk between Golden State, Minnesota and the Knicks where Lee winds up with the Timberwolves, Monta Ellis comes to the Knicks and Al Jefferson goes to Golden State. Lee visited Minnesota yesterday and it has only $7 million in cap room, meaning he’d want a sign-and-trade.”

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  • LeoneL Posted: Jul.4 at 1:13 pm
    Ellis and Amare?

  • LDR4 Posted: Jul.4 at 1:23 pm
    This is a raw deal for Lee.

  • NDP Posted: Jul.4 at 1:25 pm
    Um….Lee & Kevin Love? And wouldn’t Monta be a terrible cap space move? Don’t get this one at all.

  • Twinparadox Posted: Jul.4 at 1:28 pm
    WTF are the wolves doing…

  • barnabusb Posted: Jul.4 at 1:35 pm
    The NBA has done gone crazy.

  • MNfan57 Posted: Jul.4 at 1:36 pm
    I think this is smart. Having one guy that can play PF in Love, Having one guy that can play Center in Darko, And the best of them in Lee who can play both positions! If only people knew anything

  • NotebookNick Posted: Jul.4 at 1:45 pm
    Please no, Donnie.

  • Muscularghandix Posted: Jul.4 at 1:56 pm
    terrible Cap move? Monta is an All-Star caliber PG. Him and Amare would be devastating in NY. The only problem is that David Lee doesn’t seem like a good fit for The Wolves, and Al Jefferson is a slow halfcourt player… so why would he be a fit for The Warriors.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Jul.4 at 2:01 pm
    Warriors, Wolves and Knicks to the lottery…again.

  • giogolo Posted: Jul.4 at 2:09 pm
    Quite frankly, I have envisioned Rubio going to the knicks either right away thru a sign and trade for his rights or after a couple of years or so. Although the former is more logical. Book it.

  • Oranje Posted: Jul.4 at 2:13 pm
    Why would the Wolves do this? Jefferson at $7M is a better value than Lee at a max-out $15M-$20M sign/trade. Strange days in the NBA, strange days. Is Joe Johnson really a $20-$25M a year guy? He’s not elite, neither is Chris Bosh – those 2 guys are very good , but they cannot carry a team.

  • Overtime Posted: Jul.4 at 2:17 pm
    I dont really see how this helps anyone…ud think it could help the Knicks cos of D’Antoni’s system, but if Ellis goesto NY, they’ll have hard time getting anyone else

  • Roy Posted: Jul.4 at 2:24 pm
    I sure hope this trade doesn’t happen….

  • rich Posted: Jul.4 at 2:30 pm
    lee and love would be so much overlap theyd share a seat on the team bus

  • Alex Esquilin Posted: Jul.4 at 2:56 pm
    who is alex esquin? and why is he set up on my computer?

  • ai come back Posted: Jul.4 at 3:04 pm
    F#$% this jefferson wouldve been an all star now hes on a team that hates pf yet ironically needs them

  • dma Posted: Jul.4 at 3:54 pm
    @Overtime the knicks already have a hard time getting anyone. nobody wants jefferson, nobody wants ellis and lee, well, idk about him.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jul.4 at 3:57 pm
    I am happy about this trade. To expect LeBron or Dwyane Wade at this point would be ridiculous. Joe Johnson is possible. Amare and Monta Ellis will be a great duo in New York, especially in D’Antoni’s system–I always wanted Monta in New York, so that’s good.
    Hopefully this works out, but I don’t want to see Al Jefferson being screwed over by Nellie…

  • JACO Posted: Jul.4 at 4:30 pm
    WHAT ON THIS DAMN EARTH IS DAVID KAHN DOING?????!!!!!

  • slawson Posted: Jul.4 at 5:21 pm
    Jefferson had so much promise, but he went to the Wolves and lost his bite. Now he rides off into the sunset with Golden State… resting place for players with bad luck.

  • rich Posted: Jul.4 at 5:34 pm
    hold on nellie might b gone #1. he has curry #2,he has an actual center in beidrens #3, and he finnally has some shooters to kick out to. hopefully they realize AJ should be put in post ups instead of watching curry handle the rock for the whole possesion

  • Jukai Posted: Jul.4 at 6:28 pm
    Soooo… pretty much no one gets better? The hell?
    Plus why would David Lee even do this? There’s so much money to go around now that Pierce, JJ, and Nowitzki have re-upped that Lee could get close to max if he plays his cards right…

  • Chris Posted: Jul.4 at 6:30 pm
    … This would not be good for NY. Monta is a great player — 25.5 ppg, 5 assists, but he is set for 11 million next year. This will essentially drain their cap space for next year when Carmello is on the block.

  • C-Lo-The-Great Posted: Jul.4 at 6:39 pm
    idk im more an outsider looking in but i think this is good for gsw and ny ellis would beast with STAT in run n gun offense gsw already has ellis 2.0 plus kahn has made some very questionable decisions i would love to see rubio in ny though that would be an amazing squad up in ny

  • T-Money Posted: Jul.4 at 6:43 pm
    amare and monta give you 40-45 wins and a 1st round exit. i guess that’s ok.

  • Michael NZ Posted: Jul.4 at 7:03 pm
    Why the heck would the T-Wolves do this? Makes no sense. Won’t happen.

  • David Posted: Jul.4 at 8:01 pm
    Actually, that seems pretty consistent with how Kahn operates. Draft multiple point guards. Acquire multiple rebounders. Maybe he thinks he’s playing ‘Go Fish’

  • LA Huey Posted: Jul.4 at 8:10 pm
    This trade is great for Al. Nellie only wants one or two bigs in his system and Curry’s smart enough to feed his PF. This is bad for those other two teams involved.

  • Ryan Posted: Jul.4 at 8:26 pm
    Gotta remember wolves will be bringing Rubio over soon aswell, Lee Love and Rubio could work out?

  • J Posted: Jul.4 at 8:39 pm
    both amare and monta will flourish in d’antoni.. but im sure heads will collide.. @juks how ’bout lee to suns in a S&T.? Lee is great in run n gun, and a little better on D, better rebounder, hustles a little more.. Oh i forgot.. Robert Sarver, nevermind..

  • D12FSU Posted: Jul.4 at 8:40 pm
    would lee start, and love come off the bench? becomes im pretty sure the only way they got darko to stay was to guarantee him a starter. I actually like Monta in NY,m the only problem is, is he a PG or SG, and they currently dont have anyone who can rebound or defend

  • MikeC. Posted: Jul.4 at 9:17 pm
    I’m not a fan of this trade. I don’t mind losing Lee, since it seems he’s gone anyway and NY was destined to overpay him if he stayed. Monta seems like the classic “big stats on a bad team” guy.

  • Jahi Posted: Jul.4 at 9:17 pm
    Write it down, save it…………Rubio will never play in a Twolves uniform, period.

  • Hursty Posted: Jul.4 at 9:39 pm
    Teddy – Who plays C for the Knicks then? That was one of the major problems Amar’e had in PHX, that he felt (and rightly so) that he was playing out of position. Lee at C fulfills that need.
    Amare and Lee is the most athletic frontcourt in the NBA, especially when bolstered by the Knicks playing uptempo.

  • Jukai Posted: Jul.4 at 9:47 pm
    J: Sarver already has his mini-Amare in Warick. He isn’t even talking to Lee, who would cost too much money despite being 110% perfect in the Suns’ system.
    They don’t even NEED a sign-and-trade… Amare is leaving 15+ million, use ten of that to sign Lee and we’re set. But it just wont happen.
    And just to correct your assumption, Lee is NOT better than Amare on D. Amare is non-existent when manning up, but dude’ll at least get you a block or two from weakside help. I’ve never even see Lee attempt to get a block. Or front his man. Or, well, do anything. But yeah, the rebounding and hustle are better.

  • Jukai Posted: Jul.4 at 9:49 pm
    Hursty: That also is probably the best frontcourt combination to give up 150 points.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jul.4 at 10:22 pm
    Hursty: Actually, Knicks solved their center problem towards the end of last season. A guy by the name of Earl Barron; he played some great last few games for the Knicks, fantastic rebounder, good scorer, and holds his own on the defensive end. He actually relieved Lee of a lot of rebounding pressure in a few games–I remember Barron had like 17 boards and Lee only had like 5 in one game.
    Since Amare is not that great of a rebounder compared to Lee (or doesn’t want to be), Barron can be the key rebounder for the Knicks, and make up for Amare’s defense (if Amare doesn’t try on defense). Amare doesn’t have to play center with Earl Barron on the team.
    Now, whether or not the Knicks will keep Barron is another story…

  • BostonBaller Posted: Jul.4 at 10:33 pm
    I like Jefferson here but I’m glad we made the trade (duh) but since he got injured we may never know what he could have been. I pray he fully recovers and reaches his max potential. Lee & Love…maybe it will work, it’s a wait and see for me. I’d like to see Lee w/ a contender to see if he is the rebounder we think he is (there were a lot of missed shots to grab in NY. lol. Good luck to Lee. The Knicks will be the Knicks…..

  • CARTEL Posted: Jul.4 at 10:44 pm
    I do feel that Lee should leave the Knicks because they don’t appreciate him but going to the T’wolves to play alongside Love just doesn’t make sense to me…Lee would be better off as a member of the Nets…he should hold out because once they realize they don’t have a shot in hell at getting Lebron, I’m sure they’ll be knocking at his door…

  • Jukai Posted: Jul.4 at 10:57 pm
    Anyone who says Lee and Love will work: EXPLAIN HOW
    Al Jefferson is being traded because, as of right now, the Wolves have two undersized all-offensive, no-defensive PF (Love and Jefferson) starting in the frontcourt…. so they are correcting this problem by trading one of the undersized all-offense, no defensive PF for ANOTHER undersized all-offense no defense PF?
    Someone shoot me.

  • Toni Kukoc Posted: Jul.4 at 11:39 pm
    Jukai speaks the truth

  • niQ Posted: Jul.4 at 11:48 pm
    Jukai, it makes sense because nothing David Kahn does makes sense.. if that makes sense.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jul.4 at 11:50 pm
    niQ makes sense.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jul.4 at 11:58 pm
    Why are people STILL calling for New York to save their cap space? It’s clear the Knicks will not get LeBron or Wade this time–so why in the fridge would CARMELO ANTHONY, who plays on arguably the best team out of those three, just randomly move to New York?
    Knicks need to get some pieces they can work with NOW–NOT wait another freaking year of torture, trading away all potential prospects for EVEN MORE cap space.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jul.5 at 12:00 am
    Knicks need to spend NOW, or spend the next decade in obscurity because, in case you haven’t noticed, Knicks HAVE NO DRAFT PICKS. We’ve signed Amare–David Lee would have been nice, but Amare is a proven All-Star too. That’s a good start. But no LeBron, no Wade, no Joe Johnson (Hawks signed him), so yes, Monta Ellis would be great for the Knicks.
    And don’t give me that “first round exit” crap. It’s the TEAM that brings wins. People talked sh!t about Jamal Crawford all of his career, but in the playoffs he played like the true MVP of the Hawks.

  • Klav Posted: Jul.5 at 12:02 am
    Teddy and niQ makes sense. David Kahn will make his team better by having 30 players for a roster of 15.

  • Groves Posted: Jul.5 at 5:02 am
    umm it helps the wolves, because lee is much more adept at playing center than jefferson… so now love can start at pf. doesnt seem to help GS at all, now they have Udoh, randolph, jefferson all at power forward. it helps the knicks find players who fit into D’Antoni’s System, however ruins the whole idea of having huge cap space. sucks to be Lee- heading to the wolves could be considered a bit harsh after what he did to help the knicks (or hinder them from finishing last and geting high picks). Stoudemire, Ellis and say a Big PG could be a good idea in NY

  • Hursty Posted: Jul.5 at 5:45 am
    Jukai – the Knicks already give up that much haha.
    Teddy – I forgot about Barron in truth. He did play well the last 15 ish game of the season. I picked him up in fantasy actually. Not sure if he’s a long-term solution there though.

  • Ryan Leiderman Posted: Jul.5 at 5:46 am
    I’d love to see Monta running with Amare. The Garden would be back!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER Posted: Jul.5 at 8:39 am
    Don’t do it Donnie! I got a better vision. Package Lee in a sign-n-trade for Melo, and then sign Jordan Farmar ASAP. Seriously, don’t mess around with Farmar, get him signed. Douglas and Farmar are a solid point guard rotation. There will be times they can both be on the floor at the same time, with Farmar swishin’ down 3′s. NOTE: I’m not a dreamer.

  • melvin ely Posted: Jul.5 at 8:41 am
    also, if barron was knighted, we’d have to call him sir earl barron which is pretty wtf.

  • Dacre Posted: Jul.5 at 9:50 am
    The phrases ‘Earl Barron’ and ‘answer at centre’ in the one breath hurts my eyes.

  • Omar Posted: Jul.5 at 9:52 am
    Are the Knicks purposely going after players who dont play defense. I would love for them to get anyone who plays a little D.

  • Sam Posted: Jul.5 at 10:31 am
    I just think that Lee should stay because those two bigs would kill together. they’d then have chandler also with them. Then, just have Amare recruit only Parker, so they’re team will be a 6th seed next year.

  • Shem Posted: Jul.5 at 10:57 am
    The only team that this could benefit is the Knicks. Some people don’t think so because of how expensive he is, but if the Knicks wind up getting nobody then they might as well get a good player in Monta Ellis. I don’t think the Knicks should do it, but if it gets near the end of July and all the good players are gone then Monta at point wouldn’t be that bad. His problem is that hes a scorer but hes undersized for the sg. In the right system Monta – Amare would be a good combo. Donnie Walsh is crying himself to sleep after seeing Joe Johnson sign.

  • vanillagorrila Posted: Jul.5 at 1:40 pm
    Idk this seems like a good deal for the wolves to all those knocking it. Al Jeff is seriously dumb and was/will be a liability when running the triangle not to mention his inability to understand complex defensive schemes. I’d like to see sota get a true center instead of going from 1 converted pf to another but who knows maybe cousins will shine this year and those 3 should gobble up every rebound on the court.

  • Klav Posted: Jul.5 at 2:23 pm
    vanillagorilla I’m pretty sure minny drafted Wesley Johnson and Sac got Cousins.

  • JACO Posted: Jul.5 at 2:46 pm
    If this happens does this mean by 2011 the knicks grand plan is….
    PG:Tony Parker
    SG:Monta Ellis
    SF:Carmelo Anthony
    PF:Amare Stoudemire
    C:Earl Barron????

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  • T-Money Posted: Jul.5 at 4:28 pm
    Juks: did you really call Hak a mini-Amare? That’s exactly why I’m not mad that he wants to leave PHX. Suns fans will never recognize.

  • Don Posted: Jul.5 at 5:12 pm
    Seeing as how New York has all but signed Amare Stoudemire (and probably won’t sign LeBron) I welcome a player of Monta Ellis’s abilities to the mix. Either Monta or Chris Paul would be just fine. New York is about to become a problem in the NBA.

  • Don Posted: Jul.5 at 5:13 pm
    I wonder why Amare didn’t resign with Phoenix and is Steve Kerr’s resignation had anything to do with this fact?

  • Pardeep Posted: Jul.5 at 5:59 pm
    If Ellis goes to the Knicks the world will understand how good the guy really is.

  • Klav Posted: Jul.5 at 8:39 pm
    Jaco, if that’s the starting 5, where’s the money to sign a 2nd unit. prob isn’t even money to sign Parker and Melo who are in their primes. Monta with his contract, and then what? no more money.

  • Str8in It Out Posted: Jul.6 at 3:07 am
    ur asking about money in NY? obviously, u have no clue as to Knicks history cuz besides the last two years, they have done nothing but spend money.

  • dsleepy Posted: Jul.6 at 2:32 pm
    gilbert arenas to the knicks.

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