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Monday, July 12th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  57 responses

Jesse Jackson Has an Opinion on the LeBron/Gilbert Mess

Sigh. Jackson introduces the slavery card in the Gilbert letter fiasco following LeBron’s departure from Cleveland: “Jesse Jackson criticized Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert on Sunday, saying Gilbert sees LeBron James as a ‘runaway slave’ and that the owner’s comments after the free-agent forward decided to join the Miami Heat put the player in danger. Jackson said Gilbert’s comments were ‘mean, arrogant and presumptuous. He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers,’ the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. ‘His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship — between business partners — and LeBron honored his contract.”‘

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  • http://www.slamonline.com riggs

    while i hate the fact that he always uses the “slave card”? he DOES have a point.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    I just think Gilberts rant was his way of trying to get Cleveland on his side, and back on the Cavaliers wagon. You gotta realize that Lebron single-handedly sold out the Q for like 3 years straight. You can literally expect to see those numbers cut in half over the next 3 years. Dan realizes this and he’s just trying to rev up some emotion to get the folks on his side and back into his seats.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    While I tend to disagree with Jesse 80% of the time…he’s exactly right. And if this wasn’t about Bron there would be no “sigh” at the beginning of it. Was it Mutoni’s post? Who do you cheer for again?

  • http://www.yamahyouth.com Gerwin

    He’s got a point. BTW, Eboy; is the bandwagon of the Heat already full?

  • ConeyIslander

    I don’t feel sorry for Cleveland one bit! A billionaire owner calling a millionaire athlete callus, disloyal, and narcissistic? Really? Jesse’s right for once in his life.The Cavs can go kick rock’s LeBron was there not because of his love for Cleveland, he was UNDER CONTRACT TO BE THERE! No one remembers this? Free will, heard of it?

  • rich

    I look up to this man as a social scientist, this analogy is dead on

  • SlamFan

    I have to say I DID kind of think that it irritated Gilbert to be publicly punked and “walked out on” by a black man. No matter how much “respect” there is, deep, deep down, some just can’t believe it when a brotha shows the same powerful confidence to set his own destiny as the next guy would. In the back of some minds, he’s still supposed to “keep and remember his place.” The thought is, “WHO do you think you ARE? You didn’t really think you were on our level, did you?” That said, LeBron had no business embarrassing Joe Fan who wore his jersey, spent $ taking his kids to games, and gave him a “please stay” parade BEFORE he ever won anything by not announcing his decision in Cleveland first. Would have shown some mutual respect.

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Old School Baller

    INTERPRETATION: This is what Dan Gilbert meant to say in his open letter http://clicky.me/rSI

  • JTaylor21

    Jesse your right my brother. LeBron did everything he could to try everything to win a chip but the organization could not. From ben wallace, larry hughes to undersized past prime jamison and dipped hands in wet cement shaq. None of those guys warrant being called 2nd bananas. Also I dont understand the intense anger over bron telling his decision on national tv. Cleveland would’ve have been fu**ed either he sent them a fax or did it on tv while rocking an MJ jersey. Somebody needs to just demolish cleveland, they’re a bunch of PMSing clowns.

  • http://minusthebars.blogspot.com Don

    Dan Gilbert should be ashamed of himself. What exactly does LeBron James owed Dan Gilbert or the Cleveland Cavaliers?

    Not a damn thing.

  • AT33

    While harshly put he does have a point. Dan Gilbert has no right what so ever to call LeBron anything. Their business relationship ended July 8 and no one in the world ought to call LeBron anything even if he decided to go play in China. LeBron honored his contract he had with the Cavs, Dan Gilbert made hunderets of millions off of LeBron an he should have been the first to wish him all the best in his future endeavors. LeBron is an own individual and can engage in any kind of contract with any team, any company he pleases, nobodies business.

    Dan Gilbert should be expelled from the NBA and LeBron should sue him for $1 Billion in damages made on his brand.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    If Dan Glbert didn’t think for one second that, just like all the people in Cleveland, the general public wouldn’t know he was just as pissed off as they were (are), he’s a bigger idiot than he played himself as. You could have made a one sentence statement just as effective and saved yourself the embarrassment. He’s a dummy, plain and simple.

  • riggs

    where was gilberts loyalty to “coach” brown?

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Old School Baller

    The Black Rick Kamla is on point. Losing Lebron is an epic fail for the Cavs and they will lose a lot of games over the next few years. Dan Gilbert reacts with the obvious corporate response . . . “position yourself so that someone else takes the fall”. If he gets the fans to focus on Lebron’s betrayal, maybe they will remain “loyal” to the team and continue to attend games amid 15-67 seasons.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And yes, Lebron and ESPN should be smacked in the face 100 times for the Decision but the Sternbot also needs to change the one week rule for signing so that all that bull*hit drama goes away. If you become a free-agent on July 1st, you should be able to re-up or ride out that same day with a commitment. It’s all unnecessary drama. Drama that Stern created himself.

  • http://aspov.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Now, why did I get lambasted last week when I made the same point? SMH

  • vtrobot

    wow. i’m surprised at the amount of jesse support so far on here. i thought that everyone would be giving the rev. sh*t for just trying to keep his name in the news. all slave owners were *ssholes but not all *ssholes are would-be modern day slave owners. i can only tell that dan gilbert sounded like a vengeful, spoiled baby. i wasn’t able to glimpse into his thoughts on other races. i know that we’re nowhere near where we need to be, but you think dan gilbert would have been congratulatory if it had been larry bird doing the exact same thing in the exact same manner? c’mon. the majority of his venom stemmed from the fact that a huge money making employee was leaving for greener pastures and doing it in a way that felt extremely disrespectful personally and towards the fans. was there a greater amount of venom because the employee has darker skin than dan? i don’t know and neither do you.

  • vtrobot

    dear cheryl, i was very polite in my lambasting.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh…and before this gets too far off course, I think intelligent people will realize that Jesse was making a comparison without trying to downplay the human horrors the slaves he was referencing actual suffered through. We know it’s nowhere in the same category, it’s just a reference point.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    You would think at a time of the oil spill and the Oscar Grant incident, Jesse would find better ways of helping the black community than criticizing a white billionaire who criticized a black millionaire. This was just another move to keep Jesse Jackson’s name in the spotlight and it makes me sick. It is not just this either. I went to the Civil Rights Museum in Greensboro with my grandfather (who was part of the civil rights movement in Raleigh), and their were more pictures of Jesse Jackson than Martin Luther King jr in that place, because Jackson gave the museum money. It was sickening. For all of you that say “Jackson is right” how right is he? Gilbert put millions into “Lebron James; The Brand”. Gilbert put that face all over Cleveland. Of course he is going to be mad Lebron left, he lost millions of dollars that having Lebron made him. The master-slave relationship is INVALID. Slaves ran away for freedom and away from oppression. WHAT THE HELL WAS LEBRON RUNNING FROM? My capslock rage? No. Lebron was running from responsibility. LePippen is not LeJordan.

  • Diesel

    He’s got a point??? The man likened Lebron to a slave. Lebron will make more money than every single one of us combined and he’s a slave? Dan Gilbert reacted like a person that was treated poorley by an employee that he treated very well. Not like he just lost his property. I’m never amazed at black people’s ability to break every issue down to racisim. The fact that you guys are agreeing with Jessie jackson on something should prove to you that you’re wrong.

  • Ali

    F*** Jesse…he ain’t (yeah AIN’T) got nothing good or productive to say these days about anyone or anyhing. Always spouting off. Keep race outta this…

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to Willie Lynch.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Not all black people agree with Jackson, Diesel. That is ignorant. RACIST! (lol)

  • The Philosopher

    @Diesel:
    It doesn’t matter how much money one has. They can still be slaves.
    Some people call them “house ni**ers”.
    The “field ni**ers have no money, generally.

  • The Philosopher

    @BETCATS:
    More than a few commenters up here are racist, but claim they aren’t.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    that is true Philosopher. But the problem we face today is screaming racist at prejudice people. I think more and more people are willing to accept us (who wouldnt have 20,10 years ago) but when we scream ‘racist’ at someone who might just be misguided then we are setting back progress. Every case must be individually examined, and their still is a lot of racism, but the term is being thrown around too much now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    As usual, BETCATS is the man.

  • Joe A

    Jesse has a point, but I just wish the media would spend more time covering him when he is actually fighting injustice rather than when he is commenting on a war of words between to spoiled egomaniacs.

  • The Philosopher

    @BETCATS:
    PREACH!! I agree with you 100%.

  • Diesel

    @Philospher, Lebron handled his leaving the Cavs about as unprofessionaly as you could handle that situation. Dan Gilbert spent the past 7 years building a team around lebron. He gave him everything he asked for. Lebron should have had the decency to let him know that he was leaning towards signing with the Heat (which I think he knew at the start of this whole thing). If lebron acts like a man and just tells Dan straight up, maybe Mike Brown saves his job, maybe they don’t let Danny Ferry go, maybe the Cavs could have been bigger players in the FA game knowing they had money to work with. Lebron was treated well by the organization and he repayed the favor by screwing them over as much as he could. It has nothing to do with Dan feeling like a black man got the better of him. It has to do with being treated poorley by people that you treated well. That’s it. @BETCATS – I know you’re playing, but I do take my generalization back.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    BETCATS is right about his assessment.Rev. Jackson is not even a real man of God. Based off the bible a Pastor should have nothing to do with politics. You think Jesus cared about polictics in a wicked world NO. Jesuse believed everyone was equal and needed to be save. I would rather Jesse Jackson talk to Lebron about getting his life right with God and stop hanging out with a guy named Jay Z, who does not believe in Jesus. Jay Z song called New York or someith with Keys, he has a line where he says Jesus can’t save you. Jay Z is high school drop out con man and Jackson is dumb, he just wants his name in lights to be some one. Jesse is no civil rights leader, he is a social media harlot who probably would have sold out like Judas to get others out his way. People forget Martin Luther King and Malcolm X got solded out by their own race. So civil rights is crap I would rather have my right in Heaven than to follow this dude who thinks the BLACK community loves him. Who cares about Lebron life and Gilbert life, they are like the rich young rulers in the bible, which the bible states its easier for the camel to enter through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter to kingdom of Heaven. Rev. Jesse want you WITNESS to their souls and try to save them from this wicked money hungry, idol, prideful world. People the bible talks about wolves being in sheep clothing using God’s name as they try to do works, but do yall think Jesus would care if one of his disciples got a mean letter from his employer calling him names. NOOOO. BOOK THAT JESSE, I CAN”T STAND HIM AND AL SHARPTON, Politic Rev’s.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    @Diesel…..so basically you make no mention of Lebron and it sounds like your saying that Lebron did nothing to ressurect that God-awful franchise, the sh*t city and fill the loser owners pockets even more? Because, if anyone claims ANYONE else made that franchise relevant again, their stupid. It wasn’t Dan Gilbert or any of the dozens of teammates Bron had.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    *they’re

  • The Philosopher

    @The Seed:
    Jesus did have issues with politics, for He had a problem with the higher priests’ handling of… the money.

  • The Philosopher

    @Diesel:
    It is a business. Period.
    LeBron was shrewd. He learned well.

  • Diesel

    @Eboy and Philospher – I’m not saying lebron didn’t do a lot while he was there. And I definitly don’t agree with what Gilbert did. The point I’m trying to make is that Gilbert did what he did because he felt like Lebron screwed them over. It had nothing to do with slavery, feeling like he owned lebron, or racisim. Yes business is business, but even at our level you talk to your boss face to face and give two weeks notice.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Uhm…….from all indications, Lebron made the Cavs aware of his decision prior to the Decision. Not sure when it was, but they knew he wasn’t coming back to the Cavs.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    But you know, journalists and their stories are always accurate.

  • Diesel

    @Eboy – first off, I’d like to point out that your opinion would be 100% different if Lebron hadn’t gone to Miami. Regarldess, all indications are actually that lebron’s people just called the cavs about 10 minutes before the decision was aired on tv. I really don’t even care about that. My point that I’m trying to make…and apparently doing a poor job of it..is that whether he’s wrong or right, Gilbert felt like Lebron screwed him and that’s why he reacted the way that he did. I don’t think it had anything to do with lebron being black and screwing him. And it doesn’t have anything to do with feeling like he owns lebron.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Philospher
    Name it in the bible then, just don’t say stuff cat. I have an incident where Jesus got mad with folks in the market and not using the church the right way. What was Jesus main point on earth? Did Jesus care what others thought of him? Would Jesus ever pimp himself out for fame? Was Jesus tempted like us yes, did he always pass YES? Dude get real man. Jesus didn’t care about the politics of this world. To me no real PASTOR wants to be in polictis, because if you really want to change people’s view’s and life, they need JESUS, not some self made Rev, who has lost the way, when he is trying to make a point of rich young rulers talking junk to each other. Jesus told the rich young ruler to give up his great posessions, but you forget alot of people who have money don’t have real FAITH sometimes, because everything can be bought and paid for with a dime and Polictics is a money system for rich folks. Jesse has followers, like alot of folks on this earth spew vomit, using God’s name in vain. Trust me I know, if you get into polictics its a system where you have to do what others say to stay relevant and keep getting voted back. If you think God wants us to worry about Gilberts rant towards Lebron, you don’t get it. Jesse is trying to capalize on using racism, like he did with the Jena six stuff. Like I said in my last comment THERE ARE WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING PROFESSING TO BE MINISTERS OF THE LORD, USING HIS NAME TO MAKE POINTS, THAT GOD DOES NOT CARE ABOUT. BOOK IT!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Diesel, you’re wrong, all day so far. That’s fine. We all say dumb sh*t. And no, I wouldn’t change my opinion. I never EXPECTED Lebron to wind up in Miami. It was an unexpected event that changed the future of the franchise. 8 days ago I was almost convinced that Dwyane wasn’t going to be there, so why would I care if Lebron went to the Bulls, Knicks or stayed with the Cavs. I had no expectations of him ever being here. I wanted Dwyane to stay more than any other move the Heat could make. That was my focus as a Heat fan. Getting Lebron is like going to the prom with a really nice, cute girl that you’ve known since grade school, but that just as you’re walking out of the house to get in your rented limo, the school sl*t, all hot and ready is waiting for you in the limo, ready to make it the best night of your young life. Here’s the simple fact: if Gilbert felt this way about Lebron (apparently for quite some time), WHY THE F*CK DID HE EVEN WANT HIM BACK!!!!! Take your monies and build around another free-agent. If you hated the dude so much, why in the world would you want to wait on his decision? I’ll tell you why, because you’re a f*cking idiot. He should have said good riddance and have been done with it. Could have had some class about him. He did not. He was ignorant. Lebron’s Decision special wasn’t ignorant, it was dopey and immature and annoying. Did I get excited when he said he chose the Heat? Fu*k yeah (and to be honest my wife was happier for some strange reason)because it was unexpected and surreal. As Lebron said in the TrEboys press conference, when he was asked what he thought about Gilbert’s comments, he summed it up perfectly “If that’s how they felt about me, I KNOW I made the right decision.” See how that works?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So basically, Gilbert didn’t have balls enough to make his own mind up with the rest of the Cavs brass (who all backed his letter in the days following, so I would think that meant they all agreed with him to A) go in another direction because they hated Lebron and wanted him gone but couldn’t man up enough to piss off the fanbase and lose them all by doing something inconceivable and B)sat quietly like the an*s he turned out to be and then when the proverbial walls crashed in on him in a public forum all he could do was be a bitter bi*ch in response.

  • Diesel

    @Eboy – I agree with everything you said above…what I’m trying to figure out is where does the racisim and slavery aspect come in.

  • The Philosopher

    The Seed:
    Jeremiah 7:11
    Mark 12:40
    Luke 20:47
    Now, as I’m sure you well know, people’s understanding of the Bible is all about how one sees things.
    That being said, I’m not saying that my view is correct. I’m not saying yours is, either
    But, at the end of the day, Jesus was pissed at authority. (politicians, elders, priests, what have you) So, He destroyed the Temple and rebuilt it.
    You remember your original point, right? Jesus didn’t care about politics, right?

  • The Philosopher

    Jesus felt that the people who had authority over The Temple were stealing, in essence. Who were the people in charge of The Temple? The peasants?
    Not trying to flame at you, brethren.
    Now, there are other verses in The Bible that I can reference, but…
    Anyways, actually, your second sentence in your 12:41p.m. comment has more to it than what you stated. Check it out.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Philosopher
    Jeremiah 7:11Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD. OK JESSE IS A ROBBER, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH POLICTICS
    Dude you made my points cat, This has nothing to do with POLICTICS and using GOD’s name as a REV to promote your racist views, like JESSE. HOW DARE JESSE COMPARE LEBRON TO A SLAVE- THATS BORDERLINE INSANITY CAT, YOUR VERESE ARE ABOUT MONEY—CAT
    This is the scripture when Jesus got mad as Folks in the temple. MAN
    Mark 11:15-17 ” 15And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;

    16And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.

    17And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thevies
    THOSE BIBLE VERSERS YOU USED HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICTICS YOU TRYING TO SOUND SMART–ITS ABOUT MONEY MAN. YES WE INTERPRET THE BIBLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT GO ASK YOUR PASTOR ABOUT JESUS CARING ABOUT POLICTICS OF THIS WORLD AND THEN. JESUS WHOLE POINT WAS TO SAVE THE UNJUST WORLD and JOHN 3:16 is it and POLICTICS WAS NOT ON JESUS MIND,There was always people who believe in BAAL,golden calfs, Idols. PLUS JESES is like a den of robbers and thevies using peoples’ mind set about the messed up racial world to his profit. I am not flaming at you either but to think that Polictics was important to GOD is wrong. God doesn’t want people today to worry about this dumb stuff either today. Save yourself so you can save others, not speak to cause friction between races for your benefit to rob feeble minded folks to think the MAN is always trying to mess with a brother.

  • The Philosopher

    @The Seed:
    Respect.
    Now, one can argue that money and politics are one and the same.
    And, again, The Bible is about how one interprets it, so asking pastors if Jesus cared about politics would do nothing for me, for one pastor’s interpretation may be different from another. It may or may not be different than mine.
    Now, me trying to sound smart… I already am smart. I don’t have to try to sound smart.
    Also, I’m not racist either, but if you want to call me a racist, that is your freedom to do so.
    One more thing:
    You never told me who controlled The Temple.

  • The Philosopher

    And, who is Jesus talking to when saying, “but ye have made it a den of thieves?”
    And, after He said that, they wanted to kill him. Who is “they?”

  • The Philosopher

    Who was Jesus talking *about. My bad.

  • JTaylor21

    You guys need to stop with all the bible talk. There’s a time and place for everything. Also eboy is right on everything he said, remember that he said that jesse was using it as a reference point not saying that lebron was a slave. BETCATS stop acting like you know what slavery was like. reading books and watching roots doesn’t mean you know what really happend.

  • Mr. Robinson

    Philosopher wins. The people who ran the temple were political.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nobody knows how Gilbert feels about black folks. That’s speculation. I understand why Jesse made the speculation, but it really is just based on Jesse’s opinions of white folks. He can’t “prove” it was a master slave thing.
    That said, Gilbert didn’t just behave like a jilted boss. Jilted bosses don’t write long missives blasting former employees in public forums where they call them names and impugne their characters.
    In the “real world” that gets you sued, particularly when you’re foundation is as shaky as the one Gilbert built his argument on. In the “real world” former bosses are scared to evne give their employees bad reviews when they move on for fear of a lawsuit. That’s the “real world.”
    Gilbert did this to protect his business, as several folks mentioned.
    Jesse made his statement to protect his business.
    Lebron made his decision to protect his business.
    It’s all about business with all of these cats, and if they say anything else, it’s a freaking lie.
    Oh, and while I respect BETCATS, bring up racism isnt’ what’s making people racist. That’s another smokescreen.
    People believe what they want to believe because that’s what they want to believe. Certain folks have been claiming that racism and discrimination were myths since the 1960s, check out what Tim Wise rights about studies done at the time.
    Jesse doesn’t make anybody less likely to believe black folks with legitimate complaints of racism or discrimination. That’s just the excuse people give to justify the choice they want to make.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Philosopher
    I respect your opinion to
    In Mark,Jesus was talking to scribes and cheif priests,not policticans, but I see you feel that these people were policticans. I see it differently, also I did not call you a racist, I said Jesse is a racist, you must of took it the wrong way. Jesse has views from his childhood he needs to let go and forgive people. Jesse uses race as his major platform, which digusts me, this is not about race. Gilbert is man, so if its the other way around, people would not say its racist. I done on this weak topic and Jesse needs to get himself together and PUSH forward.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    excuse my many typos

  • The Philosopher

    @The Seed:
    I wholly apologize for thinking you called me a racist. I must have indeed taken your statement the wrong way.
    I respect your views about The Bible, also.

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    It bothers me that Jesse used the slavery card in saying that Gilbert acted like he owns lebron not the Cavs. I think Gilbert would have acted similarly if LBJ was white. I just don’t think that Gilbert was seeing any color other than the green money that he’s not going to be receiving next year and can take his team from one of the few that was making money to one that looses money. Honestly I’d be pissed too if I were Gilbert. Jesse brings up the question of if LeBron did quit in the playoffs and was such a pain, why did Gilbert want him back? I think the simple answer is money. Despite any ‘negatives’ that Gilbert had about LBJ, the money he earned by having LBJ on his team was worth it. With all that said, I do agree with Jesse that Gilbert should provide an apology to LeBron. As dissapointed as I’m sure he was to learn of LeBron’s decision and to realize he was about to lose so much money, I understand the feelings of anger and betrayl, however that’s no excuse to be so unprofessional and make public statements about quitting on the team when you can’t prove it.

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