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Thursday, July 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  233 responses

Report: Chris Paul Wants Out of New Orleans … Now

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Less than two weeks ago, Chris Paul was reportedly jokingly (or not jokingly) recruiting Carmelo Anthony, to come and join up with him and Amar’e in New York some day soon.

Things have gotten much more serious for Paul and the Hornets, according to CBS, as CP3 reportedly wants out of New Orleans sooner rather than later:

Paul, in fact, has put into motion an aggressive exit strategy that will accelerate in the coming weeks, and his clear intention is to be traded before the start of the 2010-11 season, a person with direct knowledge of his plans told CBSSports.com Wednesday.

“He wants out,” said the person, who has been briefed on Paul’s strategy but spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly. “He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron’s model of teaming up with other great players.” Paul’s list of preferred destinations consists of the Knicks, Magic and Lakers, and members of his inner circle already have sent word to the Hornets of his desire to be traded to one of those teams, sources say. If Paul has his way, he’s played his last game in a Hornets jersey.

“He feels like they haven’t put the right pieces together,” said the person familiar with the star point guard’s plans … Sources within the NBA say members of Paul’s camp have told them recently, “He’s not going to start the season in New Orleans.”

Chris Paul doesn’t become a free agent for another two years, so his only way out of New Orleans is through a trade.

Things are going to get very interesting in the coming weeks and months, as the Hornets desperately try to hang on to their angry franchise player (while Paul’s list of preferred destinations undoubtedly scrambles to position themselves to land him.)

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  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    If he were in Orlando or LA they would instantly become title favorites…

  • Nate

    1st

  • Nate

    *2nd

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    What a fu*king piece of sh*t!!!! Why doesn’t he stay in NO and suffer like a fu*ing man!!!!! So what your team sucks and your All-Star teammate is overrated!!!!! Where’s your pride!!!! No legacy now!!!!! Piece of sh*t!!!! He’s obviously now ranked in the bottom third of all NBA point guards!!!! Wants to go to the Lakers or the Magic???? Why, to play with other great players to piggyback ride to get a ring???!!!!! Little loser!!!! This ruins the city of New Orleans worse than Katrina!!!! The NBA is so done!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It would have been fun to write that if I actually meant it.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    tongue planted firmly in cheek, i presume.

  • http://aol.com Run’N'Gun219

    PAUL TO LA FOR BYNUM , ONE OF THE ROOKIES AND FIRST ROUND PICK,

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So let’s see, who do the Lakers trade to get him? Bynum & Odom? Who becomes expendable now in the backcourt? Fisher? Blake? One of them will be traded to. Have they resigned Shannon Brown yet? Losing Odom and Bynum might be too much to give up though, cause all their front-court depth would be gone. Orlando? Who moves? Nelson & Vince? Not sure if that weakens them more. Interesting.

  • kh

    Interesting to see how this plays out. Eboy, either you are being extremely facetious or we have an imposter.

  • kh

    Don’t get me wrong Chris Paul is a vaulable asset to ANY team, he is an amazing point guard. But if I’m the Lakers I don’t know if I pull the trigger, certainly without giving up Odom. I’m not convinced that you need a true PG to run the triangle.

  • CF98

    He’s not going to the Lakers their team isn’t suited for him and why fix what’s broken. He’ll remain a Hornet at least for now he’s still under contract.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    PORTLAND.HOPE. Bayless/Fernandez/Andre Miller´s EC/Pryzbilla´s EC/, maybe even Batum plus 2 first round picks! get it done Cho-sen one!

  • heartlandG

    @ Wayno, umm LA is title favorites..dey won tha last TWO, lol untill someone knoccs em out they’ll be favorites…CP3 to LA would be lethal! make it happen Buss!

  • hendry

    Baron Davis 2.0

  • Oli

    cp3 to the magic for vc’s expiring contract (team option for 2011-12). imagine all the alley-oops between paul and howard!!! don’t know what would happen to jameer, though…

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Eboy…are fu#ckin with me?? Vince and Jameer??! youre not sure the Magic would be better?! BEST PG AND CENTER IN THE FU#KING WORLD ON THE SAME TEAM?! allready with good role players?! you blind from all the Bron hoopla in south beach?!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    How so, kh?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    I don’t think the Lakers will make that move this year. If they weren’t going for a threepeat, I’m sure they’d try to make a move. Plus, they wouldn’t be able to move Blake until Dec. 15 and I don’t think Kobe would be happy if they moved Fisher. Orlando sounds like a nice landing spot, but who would they trade? And New York definitely doesn’t have pieces to make this work. This is going to be very interesting. And, for the record, I thought long ago that Chris would be making this kinda noise before the end of the summer. I just wanted him to come here. Can you imagine?

  • http://Slamonline.com Mvp23100

    La fans panties just got moist I hope I see some bashing for following Bron

  • Th3_R3al_Chris

    A Chris Paul and Brandon Roy backcourt would instantly give Portland the number one in the league for years to come.

  • Oli

    @trailblazing: i think eboy was talking about the hornets…

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    Be like…Bron? Man, these agents got their players heads all shook up.

  • WangChung

    ROFL at Eboy(9:10). Can’t wait for Magic, MJ and Barkley to publicly lament just how lazy the young kids these days are.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No Lisbon, I’m not fu*king with anyone. Jameer and Vince are assets. They performed poorly in the last round of the playoffs for them, but it’s all going to depend on what NO wants back, and really, you are overselling Dwight. We’ve seen the last two seasons how limited he is offensively and has flamed out pretty poorly (Lebronesque?) the last two seasons. CP3 has to prove he’s healthy, and there has to be a little bit more to the Magic than just Chris. Just my opinion.

  • http://albayanos.com LeoneL

    It’s not gonna happen. Just sayin’.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Oli: funny thing is that he wasnt…hes insecure about the heat´s dominance of Florida, or the NBA for that matter, in case CP goes to ORL..I like Jameer but CP and D12 is as davastating 1/2 as you can have…maybe more than Flash/bron..or at least as much

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    im with lisbon in this one, Portland get CP3!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Lisbon, you are out of your mind if you actually believe that. Or dopey to the game of basketball. Either one. I like him better in Portland like you are wishing for.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    one thing’s for sure he wont go to my cavs!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Insecure? Doubtful, bro. I’ll leave that to the rest of the haters. It’s consuming them daily.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    Vince is an expiring contract, nothing more and Jameer´s good but CP is the best in the business…youre underating Dwight, hes no Olajuawn but if he makes his freebies he will be unstopable, like 30 ppg unstopable…last 2 years he beat bron and was out to a formidable boston team..no real shame in that.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    lol @ Eboy

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    lisbon. “30ppg unstopable” is more than making freebies, it takes a LOT of offensive moves.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    ita hard to be insecure of your teams greatness with what happened down there, i get that…but im out of my mind if i bealive what?! CP/D12 at least as good as Flash/Bron?..cause im pretty sure of it. Portland would be perfect, but hes following brons “branding” strategy so no small markets i would assume. he could win ships with the core the blazers have thats for sure.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Eboy, reqeusting a trade is different than leaving via free agency after throwing a one hour special on it. I’d never think i’d see the day i type this, but shut the fu(k up already. We get it you are a Heat fan and are happy. Let the rest of the world have their opinions instead of calling them stupid.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    BET, read the comment directly underneath my “rant
    “, you fu*king non-reading idiot. And I expect an apology. So shut the fu*k up yourself.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I am dead serious about him going to portland. He wont win in NYC they dont play D. Unless Jax retires, and so as his triangle he’s not a fit in LA.. Orlando is tough competion to get him, and it will be so corny it they get stacked in the east. So its Portland. He will love Nate there, the very passionate fans, good market, good city, BRoy, Aldridge, SERIOUSLY WHAT’S NOT TO LIKE?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Boys, boys! Why not send Chris to Denver?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I dont need to read your rant. I dont need to read your comments. They are all useless. Ever since “the decision” every single one of your comments on every single article has something to do with the Heat, even if their is nothing directly about the Heat in the article. I am sick of this. As the head of the commenting communist paty, i will tell you where to comment about what. Heat sh!t belongs in Heat article comment sections, comments pertaining to the article belong in here, and D-Wade’s cum should remain in the dumpster known as your mouth. Shots fired.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    The first part of that was for BET and Eboy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You are a moron. That is all. I haven’t spoke once about the Heat in this comment section. Thats the problem when you don’t/can’t read.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I havent said anything blablablabla. That is just a detail. A very small detail.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    A detail you choose to overlook because you are dense. Read my 9:11a comment and go back to your summer reading assignment.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I would if i wasnt so busy not giving a damm.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Back to the subject, I agree with J, I like him going to Portland. He’d look good in Dallas too with Dirk. Matter of fact, to rip apart Lisbon’s theory, I think Dirk and CP3 would be more deadly than CP3 and Dwight and on par with Lebron and Wade. That would be a deadly inside/outside combo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You must have, you spoke out like an 8 year old so…..

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    its Portland Cheryl, where a core of stars is growing togheder, thats where CP needs to be, not fu#kin denver, whos in win now mode, not being good enough.

  • underdog

    Man, this summer is crazy. Someone should ask Melo what he thinks about all this fuss. This whole situation is even funnier, than LeBron’s loyalty tattoo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I don’t like Denver either, although Chauncey is a trade chip.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    Dirk and CP? inside outside? lol, who does the inside work? look, im a fan of Dwight cause hes a COMPLETELY game changer defensivly, with CP he would average at leasr 25 while Dirk is awsome scoring but BAD defender, so no title there.

    his best situation would be with another 3time all star in the backcourt, about same age as him +
    younger David West +
    Defensive game changer Center if healthy +
    awsome defensive and 3pt shooting french SF…

    is that even a questions whats the best team for him?!

  • http://www.google.com gmZ

    I know SAS isn’t one of his preferred destinations. But how bout Parker and a couple of pieces for Paul?

  • Vince5

    I’m not a Knicks fan but I’d like to see him play in New York. And maybe with the 2 of them (Amare & Paul), they’ll bring someone else, and then the competition would be bigger in the East.

  • Kundai

    Damn i heard this and my jaw dropped. I think he goes to new york IMO. New york will send randolph, Kalena Az. and draft picks maybe even felton. Then you have your new phoenix suns with amare and paul.And potential to get melo to come the following year. but i think melo will stay or go to Portland or Magic.

  • T-Money

    Well, Lakers fans/LeBron bashers, where’s the hate for CP3? I’m almost dead serious. He’ll never be as good as Zeke. O_O

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Lisbon, CP3′s ability to get into the paint, draw double teams and allow Dirk space to operate outside of the paint from deep or mid-post would make life incredibly easy for Dirk. Dirk can create off the dribble. Dwight can’t. Dirk stretches the floor as a 7 footer, Dwight does not. When Dwight is doubled in the post he is highly ineffective, due to his limited skill set. Yes, he is a freak athletically. Yes he will get a ton of rebounds. And yes, his defense is incredible. All fantastic things for a franchise to have in their centerpiece. But, we were talking about 1-2 combos and I just assumed you meant offensively. There are huge pluses for both teams if Chris was moved to either one. My bad for assuming. Also, while small, Chris is very disruptive on the defensive side at the point. Not Dwight disruptive, but tougher than most at his spot.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I would not give up Bynum for Paul but I would love to see him in Orlando but Orlando does not have anyting NO wants. Darren Collison/ David West / Andrew Bynum / Marcus Thornton would be a nice start in NO though but Bynum is too valuable to trade away.

  • will

    There’s no hate for CP3 because his team refuses to make reasonable moves to keep up in the West. This is coming from a Hornets fan/LeBron basher (Lakers fans and LBJ bashers aren’t one in the same). CP3 also doesn’t refer to himself as King nor made this announcement on an hour-long blowjob by ESPN. So, sorry..it doesnt compare.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Dirk and CP3 would be a nice combo but that still would not make Dallas title favorites or even better than OKC in the West.

  • J

    dallas and denver is out cuz they are committed to their floor generals but who knows? that is CP3! @gMZ if he’s pure about winning, then spurs is a wise decision.. But you know small market. Also they got their guy of the future there, george hill.

  • Diesel

    I have hate for CP3. I have hate for all these weak willed cowards that need to team up to be succeful and can’t handle the pressure on their own. We’re a weak generation where everyone wants the fame and money but no one wants to work for it. I seriously hope these super teams don’t become the trend.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    As a Lakers fan, I’m torn on this. I’m not going to even pretend that CP3 isn’t a talent upgrade over Bynum and Odom. But, they would be giving up so much in terms of size which was a huge key for them last season. Also, NY and ORL would be much better fits for him. I wonder what NOH would seek in return. I am midly surprised at this, because he always seemed to be all about New Orleans and has been such an important figure for the city. But, its a business and he’s got to do what’s right for him.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    im talking 1/2 on both sides of the floor Eboy. Its all bout personal view but ORL has shooters around Dwight so no strech the floor needed like Dirk anyway Chris Brussard reporting PORTLAND IS ONE OF HIS CHOICES!! I WILL LOSE M FU#KING MIND IF THIS HAPPENS:

    Chris Paul
    Brandon Roy
    Nicolas Batum
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Greg Oden/Marcus Camby sharing time. THATS ALL

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Eboy’s last comment was pretty on point. Also trading Paul for Bynum would be very dumb on the Lakers behalf. The reason LA won the last chip was because of their incredible size inside (Pau, Bynum, Odom) if they trade away a third of that they would be much more guardable and lose their biggest strength, although Paul is a great player he is really not needed when you have the triangle and playmakers like Kobe and Pau. I really hope the Lakers pull the trigger. My best guess are NYK or Portland. Portland would be awesome with him at PG and Knicks would be on step closer to building a ‘super’team in the mould of Heat, Lakers, and Celts.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Sorry, will, while all you said is true, dude is putting out three teams he ONLY wants to get moved to, if he can be. That is a diva move, sorry to burst your bubble. EVERY player would love to go to a big-market team or a contender, not everyone has the clout that Chris has. He knows this. It’s a b*tch move (although I’m not mad at him for it).

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    CP3 in SA would be a lateral movement bc the Spurs and Duncan are done. I only see LA, Portland, and ORL as teams that would instantly bc title favorites if they added Paul even though LA is currently the title favorite.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And Lisbon, where did you read that, I like the Portland move more and more as I think about it?

  • Hurricane

    LeBron quit on a 60 win team, Chris Paul is quiting on a lottery team, THAT’S A HUGE DIFFERENCE PEOPLE

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Where’s all the CP3 bashing? People are saying requesting a trade is different than leaving during free agency? What? So not fulfilling the whole contract is supposed to be better? I iz confuzzled.
    I guess people just like CP3 more…

  • Groves

    Go to the Magic… Then Florida becomes the Hoops State

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    oh and Eboy, bron and CP are different situations, not comparable…you have to admit james acted like a fu#kin douchebag, but aside from that he had every right to go to where he wanted…IT WAS ALL THE PROCESS who was messed up..do you recognize that?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    If LA can get Okafor also in the deal then I think they should highly consider the deal.
    @TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon
    If they make a deal with Portland then you can expect Batum and Oden to be in the deal

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Are we all forgetting that Paul doesn’t have a ‘no trade clause’ in his contract. How funny would it be if Nawlins just traded him to on of the L’s lesser teams. He could cry and moan but he wouldn’t be able to do zhit. Actually with him being all demanding and acting all entitled that’s what I hope happens; send Paul to Toronto or Philly.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I laugh at anyone who thinks players should have “loyalty” to an organzation that can get rid of them at the drop of a dime if that organization believes that decision is in their best interests.
    Seriously, you can be playing your heart out for a squad, have your children enrolled in a school in a city, and then be told by the GM that they’ve decided to go in a different direction and you’ve been traded. Ask Chauncey Billups about that.
    Or, you could have scrapped, worked and fought to become an NBA player, and finally made a squad, only to be waived by the GM because the team thinks it needs more cap space to go after the free agent du jour.
    Major league sports are a business. The owners operate it like a business, the players should comport themselves like employees. Employees with “loyalty” to corporations are fools waiting to get fleeced. You do your job to the best of your ability and you constantly look out for your best interests. That’s the smart play.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Two seasons ago, the Hornets were Western Conference contenders. He was injured which screwed their chances last. They are a lottery team for that reason. Let’s not act like the Hornets had NOTHING going on every year he has been there.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Eboy and BET (2 of my favs on this site) duking it out was…. unexpected. Eboy’s analysis of a CP3/Dirk combo being extremely dangerous is spot on. Dallas has a creaky, non-shooting, non-driving oldie as their starting PG, and an athletic freak of nature from Guadaloupe as his backup, plus the scooter bug Barrea, but CP3 (if healthy) would be better than both combined. Major upgrade, i don’t like this whining and strategy of forcing one’d way out, but it’s the Nba: this is not without precedent. Cubes, trade Terry, and/or Ason for him…. Now.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Why is it wrong for a player to ask to be traded to a good team, or have his organization build around him? Do you all realize that players have been doing this for decades? Oscar Robertson did the same damn thing. Kareem too. Don’t forget about Wilt. The stars who don’t complain are the ones who are winning, or getting overpaid. That’s it.
    Some of y’all act like these players are your girlfriends or something. Like they owe you something because you spend your time and money watching them play basketball. They only owe you to play basketball. That’s it. You’re paying for entertainment, not for their loyalty or souls. And, most fans will turn on a player in a second if they team struggles, or his performance drops. I dont’ blame them for looking out for themselves.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    on espn.com Eboy…Brussard REPORTED PORTLAND, ORLANDO, DALLAS, NEW YORK…NO LA LAKERS, SO LA FANS, QUIT THE SH1T CAUSE ITS USELESS AND you dont want to mess a good thing there!

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Kap: Bayless, Fernandez, Andre Miller EC, Pryzbilla EC and MAYBE BATUM, no Oden.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    if kobe is gonna retire the next two years i’ll pull the trigger. Same with Jax(not sure). but since they’re not, bynum and odom are more important.

  • Groves

    @TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon. How was LeBron’s process in anyway bad??? he’s a free agent and cleveland found out at the same time and in the same way as everyone else did.. in fact i think they found out half an hour before

  • grenners

    Trade him for bosh

  • rubs93

    CP3 is goin to NYC or Orlando He doesn’t fit the triangle and the Lakers have to give up some bigs which would kill them in the playoffs Lakers aren’t planning for next year. They want the Chip now

  • namik

    The Lakers don’t need him. Trading Lamar or Drew would be dumb. All the Lakers need is a serviceable back up center for when Bynum inevitably gets injured.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Kap. Okafor isn’t on New Orleans anymore….

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Wait. he is.nevermind.

  • Bruno

    I’ll take Melo, Chris Paul & Amare over Wade, Lebron & Bosh anyday

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Groves, if you cant see bron was an a$$hole dealing with all of it, im affraid i cant explain it.

    its not about his decision, its about all the makings that led up to it, startin bout a year and half ago with the obvious and obscene flirting with NY.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    lisbon im willing to stick it on pryz than oden, not hating greg but chris paul is chris paul..

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    I’d love for CP3 to put on that Knicks jersey. Go get him Donnie, then get Melo next summer. :)

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    i should be pleading “dan gilbert get him” but since i like portland (mostly brandon roy) too, im all up for it.

  • Groves

    @TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon. I can understand that some people feel he owes them more than just wins. i just wouldn’t go as far as too call him an a$$hole. but i respect that opinion, because it makes more sense than some other peoples.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    J, I literally could not undertand what you tryed to say..and im not some dumb f#ck either.

  • JoeMaMa

    Chris Paul, wherever he goes, will fetch a steep price. The Hornets have a young backcourt with Collison and Thornton, and servicable big man in West, a defensive presence in Okafor. Get a quality wing and another big body and they’ll look good in a couple of years.
    Shoot, throw in Julian Wright and Ike Diogu and…no, that’s stretching it. (thought I DO think Ike never got a fair shake)

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    Groves, he helded at his power lots of PEOPLE´S JOBS, helded all kinds of NBA workers “HOSTAGE”, he toyed with emotional fan bases all due to his personal EGOTRIP, a nasty one…and his home state sure didnt deserve to know that way..its all about class, humility, pride and sensebility, he had none of that whatsoever

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    lisbon.. I mean im willing to part with oden if Nawlins wants him instead of pryzbilla.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Just a bit of perspective, when an old-school athlete talks sh*t about the modern one’s, they need to make sure their credibility is valid. Enjoy:From a 1991 LA Times interview: Magic Johnson would have returned to Michigan State rather than play for the Chicago Bulls. “I’d have stayed in school,” he said here Tuesday, standing alone outside Gate 3 1/2 of Chicago Stadium, the house that could have been his. “A coin toss changed the course of my whole life.” Chicago called heads in a 1979 coin flip with Los Angeles for the No. 1 pick in the NBA college draft. It came up tails. Johnson signed with the Lakers after his sophomore year of college and proceeded to win five championships. The Bulls picked second, took UCLA’s David Greenwood and have won no championships. “I wouldn’t have played here,” Johnson said on the eve of Game 2 of the NBA finals between his team and the team that could have been his. “The only reason I came out was to play with Kareem and the Lakers.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ^ See how that works? Maybe Lebron really IS the modern Magic.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well damn Eboy.
    Make sure you don’t find the articles about Magic chasing Paul Westhead off after they won a ring because Magic wanted to run more and be “The Man.”
    You might cause some of these cats brains to explode?
    Or the articles about Bird calling out his teammates in the media. Don’t want those to get out.
    Hell, the only player to really keep his mouth shut and play was actually Isiah. He only spoke when baited.

  • http://Badnewzb8ller Badnewzballer

    As a laker fan I’d rather have dwill than cp3.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Allen…..I’m not sure if you were being partially sarcastic or not, but like everyone else, if homeboy would have just made his choice in a press release or kind of less ballyhooed like Chris and Dwyane did the two days earlier, shit would have been much different, I’m sure.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Allen…..I’m not sure if you were being partially sarcastic or not, but like everyone else, if homeboy would have just made his choice in a press release or kind of less ballyhooed like Chris and Dwyane did the two days earlier, sh*t would have been much different, I’m sure.

  • orl.chris

    I would love to have CP3 in Otown but that wont happen easily. It would have to be at least a 3 team trade. NO wouldn’t want Jameer since they have their rising star in Darren Collison. And Orlando couldn’t move Jameer to the bench, he’d have to go somewhere. I’m thinking maybe Vince and Gortat to NO, Jameer to team 3, CP3 to Orlando, team 3 asset to New Orleans as well.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lebron didn’t hold anybody hostage.
    No more than the cats at ESPN when their contracts come up. Or Rick Reilly did at Sports Illustrated. Or Bill Simmons did then negotiating time off to write his book.
    They provide a service on contract. The company values their service. They use the leverage of them going somewhere else to get a better deal from the company.
    That’s capitalism people. That’s how the system works.
    You can’t make sport a business when it’s convienient, and some sort of quasi-loyalty thing when it’s not.
    Dan Gilbert made money and expanded his business with Lebron. Mike Brown and Danny Ferry were able to succeed despite glaring weaknesses in their skillset because of Lebron.
    Lebron recognized his leverage, and used it to get perks for himself and his friends. If you hate this, then you hate how the employee of the month gets a parking space, or an end of the year bonus.
    You hate scholarships, athletic and academic.
    You hate capitalism because that’s what this was, capitalism at work. If you allowed yourself to be sucked in to the hype about “loyalty” and “pride” and all that foolishness, you need to be mad at yourself.
    Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny ain’t real.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @J: thats tuff but realistic, no Oden and Batum though right?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    E, you better post that in every lebron related article..

  • Aaron

    Knicks Knicks Knicks. Or, Raptors Raptors Raptors.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy
    The press conference invited hate, no doubt.
    But, trust, the people who say that Lebron betrayed his team and is fans would be saying the same thing no matter what.
    Because some people have bought in to the fantasy promulgated by the media and team owners about what Major League sports are. Thus, anything that disturbs that fantasy is attacked. This mindset is repeated in many ways for many issues.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    AllenP for post of the year @ 11:42p? I’m supporting it.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Allep: DONT BE NAIVE DUDE. he probably made the right career choice and had every right to do it. HIS GAME IS ENOUGH LEVERAGE. the process was atrocious, the decision only his own..you didnt get my point at all.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Lisbon.. Man i dont know, but if only pritchard was still there im sure he can make this work on portland’s favor.

  • http://www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    True @ Allenp

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    you do know what class means right? maybe its a subjective concept.he didnt owe NOTHING TO CLEVELAND but he showed no fu#kin pride, humility and sensability to deal with his home state.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    J. Im not so sure bout that. I was a Pritch fan but he was too atached to the youngins he drafted to part with them..Im really hopefull the Cho-sen one does as good or better than him.

  • http://myspace.com/emarosa Bryan

    I’m with Allenp. Bron gave the cavs seven record breaking, highlight filled years , With playoff runs including their lone finals appearance in franchise history the brass couldn’t get them over the top.He doesn’t owe the city or the team a pot to p*ss in. A lot of people made a lot of money off this dude, call it even AT WORST. Howeva! This situation is not the same, the managment in NO is much more inept and lets call a spade a spade , pretty classless. I don’t think anyone “deserves” to play for a good team but as with any job the more your employer grows the more your own bank account and productivity grow. He wants to work for a company that will help him prosper. The difference being, the Cavs tried and failed, the Hornets don’t really try. The only issue I have with Lebron is that his situation in Cle could have still resulted in a championship and he kind of just cashed in and left. CP is in a no win situation, Lebron wasn’t.

  • LA4lyfe

    I dun mind seeing cp3 in purple n gold..but id rather focus on signing ebanks n character..if they havent done so yet… and preparing them for the season as well as get blake familiar wit team n triangle..since he does wanna team up wit a superstar..melo hasnt signed extended contract last time i checked..hrmmmm??

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    Yo, Sporting-Lisbon. I have a source that says CP3 is a lock to go to GState. We’re going to put out a starting 5 of Paul, Lin, Curry, Monta, and Lin run this ish. 2011 CHAMPS, BABY! WARRIORS…COME OUT TO PLAAAAAAY!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lisbon
    I’ve said many times the press conference was unnecessary. Just from a business and personal standpoint, it didn’t make sense. However, your comments referenced his “flirting” with other teams over a year ago, or some other such nonsense, not the decision.
    Up until The Decision show, I had no problem with any action taken by Lebron James as an employee of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He said his options were open and he was going to make the best decision for him and his family. Period.
    You are asking for class because you are operating within the paradigm that their is some sort of symbiotic relationship between fans and players.
    That is a fantasy created and marketed by people who make money off that fantasy, and accepted by fans who receive some sort of enjoyment from accepting that fantasy.
    If you willing accept a fantasy, whose fault is it when you are smacked in the face with the truth? Your fault, first, and the fault of those people who encouraged you to make such an asinine decision.
    Where in that equation is Lebron? Nowhere.
    He was honest with fans about how he was going tom ake his decision since he signed his first contract after his rookie deal. I think he should have issued a one page press release, but other than that, nothing he did was wrong.
    People in regular jobs are constantly looking to improve their situations.
    They leave jobs for more security, more money, better hours, less work, and all kinds of other reaons.
    Yet, because of they begrudge athletes the same freedom. As if their salaries mean they don’t get to have certain rights. And then folks bristle when people call these players $40 million slaves.
    Y’all are just illogical.

  • LA4lyfe

    @LA huey..word?

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to the $40 million indentured servants.

  • Mellmeister

    As a Knicks fan, saying that NY is not on the running for paul is bull$#!%…

    first of all, he said so himself that he wants to go there with amare and (possibly) Melo…

    2nd, the fact that the guy has been requesting for necessary pieces to go help him in NO has been asked for the longest time. and what does NO do? trade chandler for somebody that can’t even catch lobs for paul since he’s not mobile enough (emeka). don’t know what’s up with david west, but since he got paid, he didn’t strive to get better. now NO again, as trying to build around him, and take not “not spending” on anything to get better players. now that’s messed up. they won’t be able to get better chips if they trade for david west or even emeka.

    so his situation is bad? it’s just the same way kobe asked to be traded years ago if he’s not going to get better teammates to work with him.

    and the LBJ-CP3 comparison ain’t even close, true that CP3 is on a lottery team, while james on the other hand got everything that he needed in cleveland (60-win season) but dude left cleveland cold. james could have gotten what he needed from dan gilbert. because his “owner” was willing to makes james happy. which is a different case for the NO Owner.

    dude wants to go to a better team, ORLANDO would go up a notch if he gets himself there. (trade for jameer and include vince to make the trade a cap relief and a good replacement for Paul) so that’s one of the preferred destination. if he goes to PORTLAND it’ll be awesome.

    while denver on the other hand, could trade billups… but loyalty to him for putting the nuggets out of the 1st round would be in question, once denver does this.

    NYK doesn’t have the necessary pieces to trade for paul? are you f*ckin’ kiddin’ me? whoeva said that is a fuckin’ idiot.

    NY Knicks can trade Felton and Anthony Randolph (even Azubuike — not sure if i spelled that right) for Chris Caul, and can even include some draft picks for that matter, unlike if he goes to dallas, get a deteriorating J.Kidd, or Terry who can do a lot offensively but couldn’t create much, and by the way he’s old too!

    so yeah, it all boils down to ORL, NYK and POR… young teams that will give him a chance to win.

  • Nashty

    Damn, I really hope he can make it work with Orlando. The East is gonna be bananas this year….

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Allep: you still didnt get me at all. he DOESNT OWE BEING RESPECTFULL AND CLASSY TO ANYONE BUT HIMSELF..he acted like a spoiled, egomaniac bratt but he has the right to play where the fu#k he wants…HE SHOULD´VE HANDLED IT A LOT BETTER, thats all,and if you cant see this the discussion has no sense..pronably we´ve had pretty diffrent educations from our parents.

    @LAHuey: YOURE FIVE POINT GUARD ATTACK IS GONNA KILL PEOPLE AND REPUTATIONS ON ITS WAY TO THE SHIP. GO NELLIE, more booze for all!

  • http://slamonline.com jay

    let him go, he has done so much charity for the city

  • The Philosopher

    TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon has a God complex, it seems.
    Judging people to where it fits his criteria.

  • http://Twitter.com/darrellma Dma

    Dwight Howard has a very hard decision to make – cp3 or jameer. I’d like to see a three way trade involving Portland Orlando and new Orleans. Blazers get jameer and gortat, hornets get expiring Joel Andre miller bayless and or Rudy plus draft picks and magic end up with cp.

  • The Duke

    Rip City!

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    @LA4lyfe, I put Lin in there twice and forgot about Lee. We do need someone to inbound the ball.
    @Dma, you had me at “I’d like to see a three way”

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Dma: NOT BAD AT ALL, I mean I would love CP but Jammeer might just be the PG we need + Gortat for frontline deph..i love that deal, but CP3 would be just insane…but if its not possible that one is great

  • unrel

    kobe haters.. can we all put the argument away when he demanded a trade yadda yadda crap out now?.. cp3, bron, dwade.. they’ve all cried out to the their front offices for help.. and just because kobe called out bynum (when asked who’d he rather have.. a young bynum or a HOF j.kidd).. it’s no different when the other 3 i named throws the whole team under the bus..

  • JTaylor21

    You lakers/Kobe fanatics don’t listen too well. Must be the black mamba’s man juice has plugged up your ear drums. Paul’s not going to LA, as someone already stated the laker’s size was the biggest reason with gasol that they have been to 3 straight finals and won two. NOT Kobe as all his worshippers claim. So why trade away your biggest factors and be stuck with kobe jacking shots from outside with only gasol to bail his a** out inside.

  • unrel

    but to go with the post.. he needs to go to a serious contender.. it’s a shame that his talent is stuck on a weak team.. it’s like early KG.. or the hornets need to make some noise and get some studs on that squad..

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Allenp; I am completely down with both your ‘capitalist’ (hits it right on the nail), and your 12:18 post. However there is one thing I would like to dispute; ‘You are asking for class because you are operating within the paradigm that their is some sort of symbiotic relationship between fans and players.
    That is a fantasy created and marketed by people who make money off that fantasy, and accepted by fans who receive some sort of enjoyment from accepting that fantasy.’ Even though that ‘fantasy’ as you call it is definitely marketed by people, clubs, brands and the like and used as a tool to generate hype/money. It is still not a fantasy; the reason for this is that a huge amnount of fans, owners and players belive in it, and acts accordingly to it. Hence making it more than a fantasy. There can be a special bond between players and fans; when both sides realises it and acknowledges it. The business/capitalist side of sport will still prevail and still dictate things; players gets traded, sold, cut etc. But that symbiotic relationship you refer to as a fantasy actually exist on many occasions. A couple of examples (teams refering to fanbases); Allen Iverson/76′ers, Ewing/Knicks, R.Miller/Pacers (and Knicks although hate relationship), MJ/Bulls, Bad Boys/Detroit and from other sports; J. Zanetti and M. Materazzi/Inter Milan, Robinho/Santos, Franco Baresi/AC Milan, Zidane/Real Madrid, Gerrard/Liverpool, Lampard/Chelsea, Terry/Chelsea and the list goes on. Everyday some star in whatever sport turns down bigger money and opportunities for the love of a club and the fanbases are very often a huge part of that love/relationship. So although a lot of players act in a capitalistic way, and the fact that money controls sports. The relationship between fans/players and loyalty, pride, togetherness and sometimes pure love is indeed very real. So the fantasy is real and no fantasy, since it conditions plenty of decision by players, teams/clubs and even (supercapitalist) owners.

  • JTaylor21

    UNreal shut ur fake a** up. Kobe went on video degrading and clowing on the guy that’s one of the reasons his arrogant a** even has 5 chips today. None of those guys u mentioned have never for once talked bad about a teammate while the so-called model citizen in the nba has. Of course when kobe wanted to play with another HOF player (KIDD), he cares about winning but when bron wants the exact same thing he’s taking the easy way out and a coward. You kobetards can’t have ur cake and eat it too.

  • Michael

    Come to the Indiana Pacers and team up with Granger!!!!!!

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Bird, Magic, and Jordan have ruined basketball.

  • Hurricane

    Eboy, there’s a difference between not wanting to play for a team coming out of college, & leaving a 60 win team, to piggy back off of Wade & Bosh, MAGIC WAS A ROOKIE, LEBRON IS A 7 YEAR PRO, EBOY IS SO IGNORANT

  • Hurricane

    @ JGaylor21 the f@g, yeah, Kobe wanted to take the easy route a few times, but it NEVER HAPPENED, he ended up getting the chips the HARD WAY, by losing to the Celtics, & COMING BACK FOR REVENGE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KOBE & LEBRON IS THAT THINGS FALL IN PLACE FOR KOBE & LEBRON TRIES TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE, THINGS FALL IN PLACE FOR KOBE BECAUSE HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE, LONG LIVE THE REAL KING, PEACE OUT JGaylor21 the f@g

  • Hurricane

    & JGaylor- Of course Kobe wouldn’t have won without Gasol & Bynum, just like Gasol & Bynum wouldn’t have won without Kobe, just like Jordan wouldn’t have won without Pippen & vice versa, YOU ARE AN IGNORANT F@GGOT

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Hurricane: What’s with the homophobia? Yer Dad molest you as a kid? Knock that sh*t off, bro.

  • JTaylor21

    Alright the hurricane, u probably got that name from the hurricane that blew away that cardboard/shoe box u call a house. Kobe got it the hard way huh, I bet ur getting it the HARD WAY from the black mamba right now. I could tell by the way ur typing in all caps. sucker

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Hurricane the ho*o hater, listen, there is a school of thought (probably two things you’ve never had much of)that says a seven year veteran has earned the right to make a FREE-AGENT decision to go elsewhere than to basically be underhanded and SAY FLAT OUT that you would never play for a potential draft team ’cause they’re not worth your talents and wanted to go TEAM WITH a dominating superstar because it was the better option. I doubt you can reason that, but maybe someone else with a bit more intelligence than me can transcribe it for you.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lisbon
    I don’t know what your education was from your folks. Speculating on it would be dumb.
    I got exactly what you said, which is why I prefaced my comments by noting I also disagreed with The Decison show concept.
    Your comments reflected that you were upset with his “flirting” with other teams. You claimed he held people’s jobs in his hand, that he toyed with them and their livelihooods to sate his ego.
    I’m disputing that fact.
    Lebron leveraged his position within the company to accrue benefits. We don’t know what all those benefits were, but we know there were some.
    We know Gilbert gave Lebron these benefits because he was pulling down $100 million thanks to Lebron’s presence. For those who have forgotten, $100 is what top-notch free agents receive as max deals, does anybody think Cleveland operated as a top notch company during Gilbert’s tenure?
    You think it’s obscene that Lebron considered going to other teams, and was open with fans and management that he was going to consider leaving.
    I think that’s honest.
    You think it’s obscene that he told other teams he would consider them, I think that’s consistent.
    You think that as a player or employee you “owe” your company some sort of loyalty.
    I think you owe them to do your job until you decide you no longer want to get paid to do it, or until they decide they no longer want to pay you to do it.
    See, that’s the real world. My parents taught me to be loyal to folks who are loyal to me. They taught me not to invest loyalty in a company or corporation that sees me as a cog in a larger machine.
    The NBA is a business. A big, expensive business. The owners hire a commissioner to enforce the rules they agree to enforce and hire players to abide by those rules and play games in exhange for payment. They sell that product to fans.
    That’s all it is. Nothing more, nothing less. I watch sports because I like basketball and love seeing it played at the highest level. I don’t care about the teams, and I only care a little about the players. I care about the product they produce and that’s what I pay to watch and discuss.
    I expect NBA players to behave like employees. You do your job to the best of your ability until you decide to stop doing your job and move on.
    That’s it.

  • Hurricane

    FOR THOSE SAYING “WHERE IS THE HATE FOR CP3,” HE IS QUITING ON A LOTTERY TEAM, LEBRON QUIT ON A 60 WIN TEAM, & IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE THAT THE HORNETS AREN’T BAD BECAUSE THEY MADE THE WC FINALS 2 YEARS AGO, GO AHEAD, IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE THAT THAN YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT CP3 IS BETTER THAN LEBRON BECAUSE CP3 DID MORE WITH LESS, WHILE LEBRON DID NOTHING WITH MORE

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Hurricane: Take away CP3 from his awful team and take away Lebron from his awful team, and I bet they play dead even. IF you think LEbron’s team is so good, the Cavaliers better make the playoffs this year. If they win 25-30 games, you better fess up and apologize. I’ll do the same if they’re 8th seeded.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lz
    I concede that sometimes fans and players and teams can have a true “relationship.”
    However, I say that the relationship is always contingent upon people fitting into certain roles, and on all the groups in the relationships seeing the situation as mutally and equally beneficial.
    In my opinion, fans, owners and players selectively invoke concepts like “loyalty” when it suits their purposes, not because any of them truly understand the concept of loyalty.
    You can’t be loyal to a player, and turn your back on him when he struggles. None of us would accept that loyalty from a friend.
    You can’t be loyal to a team and demand they trade you when things are tough. Again, that’s ridiculous.
    Since neither fans, owners or players show true loyalty, all of them need to stop using that term when discussing their business relationship.
    It’s misplaced and misguided.

  • JTaylor21

    Hurricane maybe you should stop typing for a while and foucs all your undivided attention on the black mamba. BITE DOWN ho*. U are obviously not think straight with that thing inside u. Come back when he’s done working out that a**. Ha

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Wow Hurricane, how old are you? So anyone who doesn’t agree with you you call them an ignorant f@g? Is that how you go on with your regular life as well?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nobody on Lebron’s team is as good as David West.
    Period

  • Hurricane

    @ Eboy- You got me there,I’m not saying it’s right for a rookie to do that, LEBRON WENT TO A TEAM WITH A SUPERSTAR AS A 7 YEAR PRO & MAGIC DID AS A ROOKIE(IT’S NOT LIKE HE KNEW HE WOULD WIN 5 RINGS THERE, HE JUST ENDED UP DOING IT) & ENDED UP BEING THE SUPERSTAR & KAREEM ENDED UP PIGGY BACKING MAGIC, & YOU’RE A BRINGING UP SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAPPENED, THE LAKERS GOT THE 1ST PICK, THE BULLS DIDN’T, SO WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING IS POINTLESS, & @ Jukai & JGaylor- Is that all you guys have to say when you’re wrong??

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Hurricane: If you disagree with me, it’s fine. You have an opinion and you are perfectly valid in thinking the way you do, it’s true that no other superstar outside of Moses Malone has done what Lebron just did and you have every right to bash him.
    Just knock off the slurs, dude.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Hurricane, is it guaranteed that the Heat are winning titles? No, it is not. Stop it. If they win, he made a good choice on how to win rings with his boys. If they do not, he, more than the Heat, will be laughed at unmercifully. So, it’s on them to do what other’s THINK they will do. It’s not easy, nor should it be.

  • Hurricane

    @ Jukai- I NEVER SAID LEBRON’S TEAM IS SO GOOD, I SAID THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE HORNETS, & WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT ME CALLING JGAYLOR A F@G, ARE YOU ONE TOO
    -
    @ JGaylor- WHEN YOU ARE WRONG YOU JUST SAY STUPID STUFF, YOU DON’T HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE TO PUT UP AN ARGUMENT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Allenp; again I agree with you. Only detail is that plenty of players/owners/fans actually show loyalty. I know it is not so widespread (without wanting to go into a whole US vs. Euro fans debate) in the US sports, but in both Europe (where I’m from) and South America (where I live) plenty of fans, players and even owners live and die loyalty, and the two latter often make their business decisions based on loyalty/love/relationship. But like you say business is business and I am not kidding myself believing that $ doesn’t have the last word in most instances.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    hurricane its just ignorant, were talking hoops, its not a 6th grade recess period…talk your point, agree or disagree with other points, but name calling is childish…this isnt si for kids

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Hurricane: I don’t care if you question JTaylor’s sexuality, just don’t use caplock and homosexual slurs. It makes you sound like a f*cking toddler.
    You ARE inferring LEbron’s team is good. They had two 60+ win seasons didn’t they? If you’re not inferring that Lebron’s team is good, then it was LEBRON who took a TERRIBLE team to 60+ wins and he was justified in leaving.
    You can’t have your cake and eat it to. If the Cavaliers do absolutely atrocious next year, you’re wrong. If they do great, you’re right. That’s the end of the story.

  • Hurricane

    @ Eboy- True, but think about this, NOBODY KNEW WHAT MAGIC WAS GOING TO BE, EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT LEBRON IS AFTER 7 YEARS, THE SHOWTIME LAKERS WEREN’T EXPECTED TO WIN TITLES, THE HEAT ARE, SO IT’S UP TO THE HEAT TO LIVE UP TO THE HYPE
    -
    @ niQ & Jukai- You’re barking at the wrong tree, JGaylor is the one that is constantly calling people nut suckers & that Kobe is raping them in the but, ASK HIM HOW OLD HE IS, DON’T YOU SEE THAT’S ALL HE SAYS, HE DOESN’T PUT TOGETHER INTELLIGENT ARGUMENTS LIKE THE REST OF US
    -
    @ Eboy & Jukai- I respect your opinions, but I don’t respect JGaylor21 one bit, all he does is say stupid stuff

  • JTaylor21

    Bron’s team had no one who could be trusted to go out there every night and play at a high level. Which is what a championship team needs, at least two players that can produce consistently night in and night out. When people talk about them having 60 wins, i laugh, because they got those 60+ based soley on Bron carrying them in the regular season but in the playoffs no matter how much carrying he did, they DID NOT have that great 2nd option. Didn’t the mavs win 60+ on time and got their a** waxed by the warriors. So regular season wins don’t mean sh*t come playoff time.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    these basketball players, like normal human beings do, are just looking out for themselves…what do you expect them to do? Agree or disagree it’s not your life and as a super fan you’re putting yourself at mercy to something you have little control over…these are the guidelines that we accept when we dive into the world of sports.

  • BostonBaller

    Business & loyalty should rarely be in the same sentence especially in sports, with that said can we please get over the anger for this guy wanting to be traded even though he has 2 years left on his contract? The only problem w/ him going to Denver is that they already have Billups & a blossoming Lawson. Melo hasn’t signed yet so maybe he and CP3 have been talking more than we know. If Melo doesn’t sign an extension and asks to be traded then it gets interesting. CP3 will not want to go to a team that already has a good PG even if they are close to a title, he isn’t stupid just hungry for wins.

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    I don’t care if you call him JGaylor. It’s one thing to call someone that, it’s another thing if you use a slur that insults an entire group of people.
    Once again, yer right: there’s a case that Lebron PERMANENTLY damaged his legacy by doing something no one has ever done (leave his 60 win team for a team with a former finals MVP and HOF talent). I just think yer off on how good Lebron’s team was.
    They were awful.
    They got 60 wins cause of Lebron.
    Sure, Lebron may have won a championship in four years, but that’s max. He can win four championships max in Miami. While playing with his two BFFs. That’s pretty enticing.

  • BostonBaller

    @Jukai Posted: Jul.22 at 1:47 pm you are correct in your comment but you could say that about a lot of teams in the L. Take Melo off Denver, Kobe off LA, Dirk off Dallas, Rose off Chicago, etc etc etc. Again, you are right but my only knock on Cleveland was their best record seasons then playoff flops…If LBJ was the main reason for those seasons then he had to be for the playoffs too. He is a Beast and will be more so in Miami. Now he or DWade could average a triple double especially since all players have to do is pass the ball to a jump shooter for an assists these days. lol

    Hurricane: Take away CP3 from his awful team and take away Lebron from his awful team, and I bet they play dead even. IF you think LEbron’s team is so good, the Cavaliers better make the playoffs this year. If they win 25-30 games, you better fess up and apologize. I’ll do the same if they’re 8th seeded.

  • Hurricane

    @ Jukai, once again, since you don’t seem to grasp the concept, LEBRON’S TEAMS WERE BETTER THAT PAUL’S HORNETS & CP3 TOOK HIS TEAMS FURTHER
    -
    Once again you guys are barking at the wrong tree, go look at JGaylor’s comments, they are all about Lakers/Kobe fans drinking Kobe’s man juice, THAT’S NOT CHILDISH YOU CONTRADICTORY BASTARDS?????

  • BostonBaller

    I don’t know how Jukai’s comment got to the bottom of mine. lol Modern technology I guess…

  • NBA kid

    would love to see chris on the magic. trade away vince and jameer for cp3 and okafor. orlando would then start 1:paul, 2:jj, 3:shard, 4:okafor, 5: dwight, with pietrus, gortat, richardson, bass, and duhon off the bench

  • JTaylor21

    @Hurricane I just call em how I see em, you started all this gay remarks, so I just finish what you started. I’ve been making factual arguments every time I comment. Maybe some people can’t handle the truth like tom cruise.

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    BostonBaller: Oh c’mon. If you take Kobe off the Lakers, they may be a 7th/8th seed. Same with Melo off Denver (maybe just miss it). If you take DIrk off Dallas, they suck, but bottom line:
    if you take CP3 off the Hornets, they are AWFUL. If you take Lebron off the Cavaliers, they are AWFUL. There isn’t any comparison between the three teams you mentioned and how bad the hornets/cavs would be because of their cast.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn hurricane take ur finger off that caps lock key for once, u might pop a blood vessel. We know ur butt-hurt but damn.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    We’ve been watching the Hornets without CP the last couple of years…how is this debatable? Although Collison and Thornton got to step in they were sorely missing CP. But there is no way that Cleveland even competes without LeBron. That team is just dogsh*t. Antawn Jamison and Mo Williams are both probably the 4th best player on a good team…not second bananas. David West really isnt much better than either of those two, but at least NO has guards that can play. Boobie and Delonte West? Anthony Parkers trash too. Cant fault either one of these guys for wanting out, especially CP for being in a good situation, making a playoff run, and then having ownership decide they’re done spending.

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    I mean, f it, send CP3 to New York then sign Melo! The east will have THREE big threes!
    Allen-Pierce-Garnett
    Wade-Lebron-Bosh
    CP3-Melo-Amare
    How awesome would that be? Sure, there is a clear best and worst in those trios, but that would be FUN come every playoffs.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    I really don’t appreciate the use of caps.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    I feel like this has to work best for the Knicks. I can’t see the Lakers messing with their chemistry right now, and I wonder if Orlando’s hesitant to bump Jameer after bumping Hedo for VC last year didn’t result the way they had hoped for. Both of those title contenders are going to have to part with legitimate key players if they want to get arguable the best point guard in the league right now. While the knicks have a couple of good, young pieces and a nice expiring contract to offer. It’s just too bad that CP has 2 years left on his deal, which doesn’t put that tight of a squeeze on NO to get something done immediately.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Mr. Hurricane, what you’ve just said… is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  • Hurricane

    HOP OFF MY SACK JGAYLOR21 THE F@GGOT, & TO THE REST OF YOU F@GGOTS, I DON’T GIVE A DAMN IF YOU’RE OFFENDED

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Myles: I love it, man. A+ for reference.

  • Robb

    CP3 to L.A.!

  • Chris

    L.A., according to ESPN is no longer in the running (perhaps never was). NY is #1, Orlando after that, and then Dallas or Portland.

    LBJ and the others forced superstars hands. By teaming up, if other superstars want to win a championship they have to do the same.

    I don’t blame CP3 for wanting to win, and knowing he can’t do so without 2 other superstars at this point.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Mo Williams was a nice go to guy during the regular season so I’m not buying Cleveland didn’t have another go to guy. He murdered LA on Christmas while Lebron and Kobe both struggled in that game.

  • unrel

    @JTaylor.. quit your keyboard hoo-bangin.. you don’t have to get all upset on a comment i made.. by the way.. your response to me was way off.. unintelligent.. unproductive.. and straight b**ch-made.. so.. on to the next..

  • Robb

    Damn, Hurricane is really pissed! lol. Hey as much as I hate Lebron JTaylor is right about the Cavs. They were a 60 W team because of him, that’s the truth.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    Kap that was one game, just like he had one good game in the playoffs. You’re not Robin for playing well sometimes.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    The last go to guy the cavs had that wasnt named lebron was terrell brandon

  • JTaylor21

    KAP there you kobe’s lovers go again. I just lost a couple of brian cells for reading that crap. Nobody in their right or dumb mind would even call no-show mo williams a viable 2nd option. Using ur same moronic logic, he’s just as good as gasol, huh. Com’on son, ur better than that, on second thought ur not.

  • JTaylor21

    ^ I meant brain cells

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    It would be great if JTaylor21 and Hurricane could just exchange numbers and do their flirting without the rest of us having to waste our time reading through it.

  • unrel

    @JTaylor.. what you mad at?.. your comment to me was way off base.. relax with the key-board hoo-bangin.. but to respond.. i’m pretty sure they’ve all said something about their teammates.. whether to the point like kobe or as PC as “we don’t have the right pieces”.. kobe didn’t go on camera and say it.. he was TMZ’d with a camera phone.. i’m not defending anyone.. or bashing bron on his move.. all i’m saying.. is all these stars have said.. ‘give me help.. or ship me out’.. so if 4 (the ones i’ve named) of the top 10 of today’s league have all said the same thing.. then ‘kobe haters’ can no longer use that period in kobe’s career to downplay his greatness, game, legacy.. so let’s go early 90s old school.. make a fist with one hand.. place the other hand’s plam over the fist.. and squash it..

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    LA HUEY, we’re gonna start lin twice? at two different positions? nice!

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Calm down JTaylor…I was just trying to make the point that the Cavs did have talent. Hell, when they got Jamison everyone said they were the favorites and Lebron can no longer complain about not having help.

  • rav

    eddy curry and a future first rounder – deal?

  • JTaylor21

    @KAP jamison is a 34 yr old past his prime non-star. So how does bron have a second viable option. Don’t let the names fool ya, just look at how they perform and their age. Because if someone just looks at the cavs players name on paper, they would think they have a great lineup which is not the case. You can’t keep surrounding bron with old, past their prime players like dude himself is on his last legs.

  • http://jaredmintzisthetruth.blogspot.com Jared

    Kap where was Antawn after he came to Cleveland though? It’s true he was believed to be the perfect fit for LeBron because he had good inside outside game and was a pretty legit 4, but he fell off the face off the planet with Cleveland. It’s not quite like saying they had Shaq, but a players name is only as good as what they do on the court and Tawn didnt do much for the Cavs.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Well if the coach had more than one play besides “give Lebron the ball and let him score or get the assist” then I think those guys could of been more effective. I just don’t think you can win 60+ games two yrs in a row with only one great player.

  • http://fdsjklfl.com Jukai

    Kap: Yeah, yer right, Jamison was suppose to put the Cavaliers over the top.
    But he didn’t.
    He actually didn’t do much of anything.
    In fairness, he wasn’t used right in the Boston series (should have came off the bench, gone in a the three when Lebron was resting) but he pretty much was a non-factor throughout the playoff run. Maybe he needed another year to adjust to the team. Maybe not. Bottom line, he didn’t work out at all, and it’s undeniable.
    I get saying “give him another year, don’t bail Lebron. LEt Jamison come into the system.” But from the time they played together, Jamison did nothing.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    & a team of scrubs (meant to add to my last sentence)

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    But I don’t blame Lebron for leaving Cleveland either because no one great was walking through that door to help Lebron. I only hate he joined Miami because I’m a Lakers fan.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    That Myles Brown comment at 2:41 made my day. Billy Madison FTW!

  • cp3fan

    If he is traded, I hope it is to Orlando. He and Dwight Howard would be a good fit. Think of all those pick and roll alley oops. They would be better than the Heat and the Celtics. Chris, Vince, Q Rich, Lewis and Howard is a better starting lineup than Chalmers, D-Wade, LeBron, Bosh and Ilgauskas. And the Magic already have a better bench.

  • Robb

    talent that doesn’t show up come playoff time = no talent. Lebron needed players who could be there fighting with him, not behind him. The Cavs were like that. They laughed when LBJ laughed, celebrated when Lebron danced and behave like tough guys when Lebron won the games for them. They were all witnesses alright.

  • cp3fan

    Chris never should have signed with LeBron’s marketing team. He should have seen how they completely messed up with that whole “Decision” garbage. They aren’t professionals. I hope they don’t pollute his mind any more than they already have.

  • JTaylor21

    Of course u can Kap, u can win 60+ gms in the REGULAR season with one great player and other good players. But i’m talking PLAYOFFS, u need another great player to be able to beat a team 4 times. Because a good team is not going to let one player beat them all by himselves, so thats why a second viable option takes takes away some of the load and forces the opponents to play straight up. Whoever watched the boston series, knows that the celts were loading up on bron’s side of the floor because they knew that the other guys weren’t major threats to make them pay.

  • orl.chris

    @dma 12:51 – ya man im thinking something like that too

  • http://www.slamonline.com Klav

    I woulda sworn trading Sasha and Lamar almost matched CP’s salary. But doing it wouldn’t make sense, that would only stress having Bynum and Gasol playing more without a seasoned vet to play the 4. Living in PDX I think it would be awesome to see CP play here. Damn, I swear its summer cause people keep posting on here like there is nothign else to do. LA Huey and davidR, maybe you guys should start Lin at 3 positions, could work?

  • http://www.clownpenis.com Tarzan Cooper

    For the ppl saying cavs won 60+ games, yes they did, but in the east, and central div, against inferior comp. Pistons, pacers, bulls, bucks(both werent total chumps) 4 games each. At least 3 games vs raps, ny, nj, was, philly, charlotte. Not that many cupcake teams in the west. So cavs were really 7-8 seed in west type team, not best in league. And great stuff about magic , funny. I hope chris paul goes to orl, and I said that over a year ago. I also called bron going to mia a year ago, number change+dwade+hella cap space+riley=rings

  • FLUXLAND

    Is this the beginning of the Steve Francis Chapter in CP3′s life?

  • irrelevantly relevant

    might as well cancel the allstar game and just have 2 teams full of star battle for 82 games…..

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^hurricane..
    get off this site dude.. your know nothing about basketball and cant even make a decent arguement.. i absolutely hate eboy but at least he can put together a decent arguement.. JTaylor21 knows what hes talking dude so stop hatin n runnin your unintelligent, ignorant mouth

  • The Philosopher

    I’d love to see him in L.A., but…
    I can’t blame him for wanting to leave. Who doesn’t want to win?
    The thing I love about today’s players is that they know that they will never duplicate what the Michaels, Magics, Birds, etc. have done. They are brilliant in that respect.
    Only people like us are expecting the impossible from these players, and they can’t do it.
    So, why not join together?
    Individually, it’s not going to happen…
    Not even for Kobe.

  • Rusty

    hmm i cant see him getting traded to any team makin that team better then the heat right now, they would have to give up to many pieces.

    And @ the philospher, it didnt happen individually for MJ,Magig or Bird either.

  • The Philosopher

    @Rusty:
    You are right, but y’all know what I’m saying.
    As far as all time individual accolades, and what not… who’s going to top those guys like Michael, Magic, and Larry?
    The only thing left is team success, so, they might as well pave the way and “change the game” as far as everything else goes.
    Forget about individuality, you know?

  • slamfan4life

    Damn, N.O. would be nuts to let him walk……….

  • http://www.clownpenis.com Tarzan Cooper

    The thing about the old days, is they the old days

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Kap i’ll remember that last sentence of your 3:32 comment.. Another thing, there is a difference in great talent and championship talent. Cavs have the former.. Jamison wasnt used properly in the playoffs, wasnt given enough ball/plays at all.. Jamison was producing 16 and 8 without plays drawn for him.. Could we be champs if adjusted properly? I dont know.. But im sure we get passed that celtics. Mo and Antawn, are 4th best players on a championship team.. Im not even mentioning Shaq.. the problem with our offense is that you have to be a great shooter /off ball player if your not named james. You can win 60 in the regular season with only one superstar.. I think that was proven the last 2 years..

  • Shem

    This is not the way to start off the decade on a good note for the NBA. Seems like all the superstars want to play together now. I used to love watching superstars go at it in the playoffs now. I watch all 82 games that the raptors play and every time i watch, there was always that one player on the other team in which i was interested to watch and see what numbers they put up that night. Paul’s leaving, Melo will probably go, Bosh is gone, Lebron is gone.. that’s 4 teams now that don’t have superstars. I’ll still watch the Raptors obviously, but i’m just not liking where this is going..

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddyt-eh-Bear

    Chris Paul is only 25 and he’s already chasing rings?! We can NEVER compare him to Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, or even Steve Nash ever again. He’s taking the easy way out so he can be somebody’s second banana…
    Oh wait, Laker fans don’t h@te Chris Paul.

  • COGGIE

    213th

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    AND I completely misspelled my screen name.

  • Tim W

    Major League Basketball

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000580635564 Bryan

    i agree with hurricane….jtaylor is a f@g

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Boy oh boy, those were the days when Juks and i got into it overy Amaechi bashing. Now it’s Gaylord this and Kobejuice that, in CAPS even. Slamonline, slowly regressing to youtube-level commenting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000580635564 Bryan

    That was absolutely NOT me at 9:59. Check your name before you post you bunch of f*cking idiots.

  • JTaylor21

    @Bryan, got jokes huh. Way to play the I was framed card. You can call me all the names you want because you will never see me and vice versa. So feel free to go bonkers.

  • Klemperer

    Is there no integrity in the world?! Is there anybody who will keep a contract to their own hurt? I’ll not cheer if he’s traded.

  • The D Train

    Klemperer makes a good point. I long for the NFL-style no-guaranteed contracts. And to answer your first question: no, there is no integrity. Check the post about Derrick Rose claiming that he’ll never leave Chicago. Then check out the comments where everyone says he’s stupid for saying so. Integrity and loyalty do not exist in a capitalistic society, and as I’ve mentioned before the NBA is the ultimate example of American society, with the elite few inmates running the asylum.

  • JTaylor21

    The D Train isn’t it the way it’s has always been. As the saying goes nice guys finish last. America has always been a country about where the greedy and selfish people are the most sucessful. It’s a concrete jungle. I don’t know bout u guys, but I’m willing to lie, cheat, and be unloyal to a certain extent just to get to where I wanna be. The next man will do the same to you without remorse, so why not get him before he gets you. Like jeezy says It’s a crazy world. Eat or get eaten alive.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^^^ I understand where you’re coming from but that’s a f*cked up way of thinking. It’s just a shame that most people think this way..

  • http://www.slamonline.com negetivekreep

    JTaylor21: Its clear by most of your comments that, thats your mindset. And im not knocking u or judging or anything. Every man’s got to choose thier own path, and every man has thier own circumstances,struggles,and challenges. And to a certain extent, if your main objective is getting ahead of “the other guy” than i’d agree with you. But my gramps taught me that “it aint all about the destination, it’s how u get there” and “you can be part of the problem, or part of the solution”. But what do i know i clean carpet for a living!

  • JTaylor21

    I’m not saying that u should do in the next man, just to get ahead in life. What i’m getting at, is that like the late great Malcom X said “By Any Means Necessary”. I’m not into doing or wishing evil unto another man, because what goes around comes around. @negativekreep ur a 100% right on everything u said. Every man is different and the journey is what makes the man.

  • http://www.slamonline.com negetivekreep

    @Jtaylor21: this is whats great about SLAM, the BBall talk is GREAT, but what u said is real talk. Something hard to find almost anywhere these days. while i might not agree with u on most things pertaining to say…Kobe? lol, that aint a reason to hate. Like alot of us, i came from nothing, went without alot, didnt get many opportunity’s. And i’ve done “what i had to do” in my mind at times, and thats why even tho’ i see things differently NOW, i cant judge or look down on any man for doin the same thing. And no doubt even Malcoms perspective on “what means were nessesary” changed as he evolved as a man. But never the less those are classic words of wisdom for any man, reminds me of how PAC used to quote Billie Holiday…”god bless the child that can hold his own”.

  • BK Chris

    If Paul comes to NYC there’s no chance in hell Melo signs that extension!

  • eZ

    Impact pre 2010/2011:

    LAL minus Kobe = 47 wins (impact 10 wins)
    CLE minus Lebron = 35 wins (impact 26 wins)
    NOH minus Paul = 30 wins (injured most ot year)
    MIA minus Wade = 18 wins (impact 29 wins)

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Non-guaranteed contracts only benefit the owners and teams.
    I’m amazed at how many people actually think that’s a good thing.
    Look at the NFL and all the news that just playing hte sport these days causes serious brain damage. And they have non-guaranteed so you can be like LT and give your heart and soul to a franchise and then have them dump you later in your career to save money and move on.
    That’s loyalty right there for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000580635564 Bryan

    Hey As*hole , (jtaylor) If I had something to you say to you I would say it. Like right now. Nice try to make me out to be some internet tough guy though. I’m a regular here and have been for about 4 years and one thing I do NOT do is back off my comments so when I say I didn’t say something I really didn’t say it. So f*ck yourself.

  • james

    I think this guy hit the nail on the head with regards to how Demos and Williams should approach Chris Paul on Monday.

    http://hornets247.com/journals/2010/07/23/fan-fiction-hornets-style

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