Top 30 Post-Lottery First Round Draft Picks

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• trox Posted: Jul.14 at 5:25 pm
  why is brandon roy not on this list?

• Ben Osborne Posted: Jul.14 at 5:31 pm
  Nice work, Jeremy. @trox: because he was a lottery pick.

• Saami Posted: Jul.14 at 5:33 pm
  LOL @ trox

• Gerard Himself Posted: Jul.14 at 5:44 pm
  awesome list

• Enigmatic Posted: Jul.14 at 5:50 pm
  That first comment was a straight up fail.

• rainman10 Posted: Jul.14 at 6:20 pm
  No Sam Cassell? Tayshaun Prince?

• Ethan Posted: Jul.14 at 6:28 pm
  What about Ginobili?

• WdJ Posted: Jul.14 at 6:36 pm
  D Fish? You must be back on the pipe! I’m a Laker fan, and D is not in the same league as the top 15 or so players. Nice try, but no!

• JP Posted: Jul.14 at 6:38 pm
  Shawn Kemp was a MONSTER

• JL Posted: Jul.14 at 6:56 pm
  man why did kemp have to eat his way out of the league. he was good even tho he was overweight on the cavs too. if not he woulda had a hall of fame career. i would still vote for him though. nobody dunks like him now. no one. not after they put in the stupid charge circle.

• K. Lee Posted: Jul.14 at 6:58 pm
  GINOOOOOOOOOOBBLLIIIIII (Barkley Voice)

• wayno Posted: Jul.14 at 6:59 pm
  Yeah, Tayshaun Prince definitely deserves to be on this list.

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Jul.14 at 7:35 pm
  The Kings can Draft!

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Jul.14 at 7:36 pm
  No Ginobili because it’s first round only.

• Tarzan Cooper Posted: Jul.14 at 7:40 pm
  Manu was second round. Ak47 is way too low, wilson chandler has no business on this list. fisher is WAY too high, rondo is too high. Tay has to be on here. Switch tony and steve and its all good. Everyone knows steves mvps are a joke, ad as great as some ppl say he is, all hes done is never make it to the finals, tony has 3 rings and a finals mvp too, how the F is he not number one?!

• Tarzan Cooper Posted: Jul.14 at 7:44 pm
  Yes ryne, kings drafted very well.

• Drew Posted: Jul.14 at 7:51 pm
  Isn’t lottery considered the first 14 draft picks? How did Jalen Rose get on this list if he was selected 13th overall?

• LB Posted: Jul.14 at 8:16 pm
  Good list, but D-Fish over Rondo? Come on, man~ I know Fish has got all the rings and proves to be a clutch performer every year, but come on, man Fish has always been and will always be a role player. Rondo is a franchise point guard.

• Atrain Posted: Jul.14 at 8:48 pm
  Wilson Chandler? Really?

• NBA kid Posted: Jul.14 at 9:08 pm
  @drew, read the criteria of the list. at the time, rose wasn’t lottery cause there weren’t as many teams

• Will Posted: Jul.14 at 9:25 pm
  D Fish over Tim Hardaway, Really?

• Mike Posted: Jul.14 at 9:29 pm
  You left Rashard Lewis out??? He should have been in the top 10, at least.

• Tzvi Twersky Posted: Jul.14 at 9:34 pm
  Love the idea, question some of the placements. And that’s what I love about it.

• ron Posted: Jul.14 at 9:35 pm
  No Gilbert? No Monta?

• Jeremy Bauman Posted: Jul.14 at 9:53 pm
  Agreed Tzvi, that’s what its all about. Tayshaun was omitted by accident, he probably should be on there and I meant to get him on there. Thank you @ NBA kid for reading the criteria and explaining that. Wilson Chandler could pan out to be a lot better player than people think. If he goes to a team that actually plays defense, that is. Rashard Lewis was in the 2nd round. Another list will be coming at some point with the best second rounders, count on it!

• Jukai Posted: Jul.14 at 11:09 pm
  Great list, but can we do a second round list? That’s way more interesting.

• letsmotor Posted: Jul.14 at 11:51 pm
  Great list, and I had fun reading it. My only point of disagreement (at least for the moment) is Derek Fisher’s placing. I know he’s a strong, winning role player who brings toughness, intangibles, and clutch shooting ability, and that’s all great, but he’s just not the same class of player as the top 10 or 15 guys on this list. I’m not all about stats, but let’s face it, stats mean something, and I don’t see how a PG with averages of 9, 3, and 2 comes in at number 4, even given all his attributes.

• benny Posted: Jul.15 at 12:15 am
  GINOBILI!!!! and ARENAS!!!!!

• letsmotor Posted: Jul.15 at 12:26 am
  Ginobili and Arenas both went in the second round, Benny. They’d definitely be up there on a list of the best players to go in the second round.

• drob50 Posted: Jul.15 at 1:29 am
  Speaking of Doug Christie, how about a list of Top 30 basketball wives?

• johnny c Posted: Jul.15 at 1:41 am
  arenas is my pick for best second rounder. gotta put ginobli, boozer, and redd on the list too. cant wait to see that one.

• Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers Posted: Jul.15 at 2:16 am
  good read…wha?!?!?!?Casspi, Hakim Warrick getting love in the future references before NicBatum?!?!?!? GTFOH

• curt Posted: Jul.15 at 2:17 am
  I thought the lottery starts at the 15th pick?

• Tarzan Cooper Posted: Jul.15 at 3:06 am
  manu is the best second round player of all time, no contest, not even close.

• CClass Posted: Jul.15 at 5:00 am
  Wow, way to fact check your Ron Artest portion of this piece…”the Indiana Pacers decided to take him after with the 17th pick”….He was drafted 16th by the Bulls. This is just terrible.

• M5 Posted: Jul.15 at 6:15 am
  This is the only time the Grizzlies and Raptors can keep Kobe out of the top of the list.

• hendry Posted: Jul.15 at 7:08 am
  if u list jalen rose as a 13th pick, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN U LEAVE OUT KOBE????!!!

• Overtime Posted: Jul.15 at 7:22 am
  Would be much better if people read the article before making outrageous remarks on the list

• spit hot fiyah Posted: Jul.15 at 7:58 am
  co-sign everyone who thought fisher is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high on this list…

• Yesse Posted: Jul.15 at 8:18 am
  I think Fisher was a bit too high there. Now i’m not saying he should be on the list, because he definetly should. I also think that many of the players are on the wrong spot on the list.

• letsmotor Posted: Jul.15 at 9:00 am
  how about that claim that Kirilenko “isn’t great in one particular area”? um… defense?

• Kap Posted: Jul.15 at 9:51 am
  Why can’t people read that it says first round and comprehend the the lottery is only 14 teams and was 13 before bobcats.

• wayno Posted: Jul.15 at 10:14 am
  I like the concept of this list…You should do best 2nd rounders and best undrafted players next.

• Richie Posted: Jul.15 at 10:19 am
  I like Chandler too. He’s underrated because he’s a knick. Lots of potential there, although his placement compared to those below might be a bit high considering his lack of overall success.

• Bryan Posted: Jul.15 at 10:38 am
  Tim over d-fish? Maybe it was because of where fisher was drafted to see his career pan out the way it did but dont get it twisted, Timmy Two-Step was aa far better player then fisher who was great in his own right

• Bryan Posted: Jul.15 at 10:39 am
  d fish over timmy was what i meant to say

• marc Posted: Jul.15 at 10:43 am
  Is it me or does michael finley’s pic look a lil bit like kevin durant. lol

• mgballer Posted: Jul.15 at 10:49 am
  youve got to be kidding me with DFish ahead of Rondo..Thats comedy..i don’t think Derek Fisher ever had the potential of being a franchise player.. great role player but he isnt and will never be rondo

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Jul.15 at 11:08 am
  marc, I see it. The Suns need to bring those alternates back, too.

• Mo Posted: Jul.15 at 12:51 pm
  What about Nick Van Exel or Ben Wallace. Those guys were steals in the 2nd round.

• Tim W Posted: Jul.15 at 2:22 pm
  didnt anyone read the whole thing? the list is of FIRST ROUNDERS that werent lottery picks. at times there were less lottery picks thats why kobe wasnt picked and jalen was and why no arenas or ginobli….

• Overtime Posted: Jul.15 at 2:29 pm
  Mo, please, please READ!

• lupe Posted: Jul.15 at 2:32 pm
  SLAM, please stop letting college kids report sh*t like this. If you are under 25, maybe even 30, you have no business attempting to make up “lists” of the top anything of all time. Come on SLAM, yall have fallen waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off over the last 5 or so years, PICK IT UP. DAMN.

• RUN'N'GUN21901 Posted: Jul.15 at 3:56 pm
  I think most of the poster here are “RATARDS” READ THE WHOLE ARTCLE BEFORE POSTING DUMB ASS QUESTION…. THIS LIST DOES NOT INCLUDE SECOND ROUND PICKS!!!!!!

• RUN'N'GUN21901 Posted: Jul.15 at 4:02 pm
  And yes fisher should be ahead of rondo and so should alot of other players on this list. Rondo is good but he might be the most over rated player in the league. Top 5 point gaurd? yeah right. i can name 7 who are better than him. DWill,CP3,DRose,steve nash, baron davis,westbrook,billups.. Rondo misses to many lay-ups, cant shoot, and no defense(he plays passing lanes like old iverson) so yeah fisher over rondo cause he has been running championship teams since 1999

• RUN'N'GUN21901 Posted: Jul.15 at 4:03 pm
  And yes fisher should be ahead of rondo and so should alot of other players on this list. Rondo is good but he might be the most over rated player in the league. Top 5 point gaurd? yeah right. i can name 7 who are better than him. DWill,CP3,DRose,steve nash, baron davis,westbrook,billups.. Rondo misses to many lay-ups, cant shoot, and no defense(he plays passing lanes like old iverson) so yeah fisher over rondo cause he has been running championship teams since 1999 and playing a big part in those championship teams

• RUN'N'GUN21901 Posted: Jul.15 at 4:05 pm
  my bad for the double post

• Javy Posted: Jul.15 at 5:44 pm
  Does Arenas get on this list?….he is a freak!!
  I don’t know in what round he got picked but I know he wears “#0″ for a reason and I think is because they passed on him.
  Don’t know!!

• hoodsnake Posted: Jul.15 at 6:23 pm
  I only see up til number 26 on my phone for some strange reason but Mike Finley is on this list right? Right?

• I am the walrus Posted: Jul.15 at 8:00 pm
  No Kobe???

• WM Posted: Jul.15 at 9:11 pm
  Even with the knucklehead gun incident Gil deserves to be on this list.

• dfrance21 Posted: Jul.15 at 10:27 pm
  Its like people read the title, then come straight to the comments. Gil was second round man. I don’t feel like if you were a top 20 pick, regardless of the number of lottery teams, you can really be considered a “steal.” Artest for example(who was drafted 16th and by the Bulls btw). He’s had a way better career than most picked before him, but he was picked 16th which was just 3 picks outside the lottery. He was a sophomore from St. Johns averaged around 15 points, not an all-American. Not great at any one thing, not that athletic. You can justify teams passing up on him.

• jsbauman Posted: Jul.15 at 11:24 pm
  You can absolutely justify teams passing on him, you are correct. But one can still call him a steal because he was passed up on by enough teams and he turned out to be an elite defender and nba champion in the end.

• Lazarus Posted: Jul.16 at 4:39 am
  hate the list. like the idea.

• hoodsnake Posted: Jul.16 at 6:08 am
  Yeah most of the people who commented on this article didnt read it properly(STUPID) or didnt want to read it properly(IGNORANT AND STUPID)

• Reflex Posted: Jul.16 at 8:33 am
  cosign lazarus

• Larsylad Posted: Jul.16 at 8:54 am
  Kobe? KOBE?

• Kundai Posted: Jul.16 at 1:46 pm
  Kobe is in the lottery he was 13. no gilbert im surprised

• jamal ypungblood Posted: Jul.16 at 5:12 pm
  Gilbert, michael redd, giniboli. i like when people make lists but this one is absoutely trash. d-fish is trah too.

• The Seed Posted: Jul.17 at 12:04 am
  As a Laker fan, Fisher is not on this list. Sorry Slam and Nash one is sad, two white media influenced MVP’s is not indicative of sorry he has been over his whole career. Tim Hardaway and Tony Parker are over Nash. Sprewell was a beast, should be higher on this list.

• B.C. Posted: Jul.17 at 1:28 am
  Ron Artest was drafted 16th overall by the Chicago Bulls not 17th overall by the Indiana Pacers.

• alex Posted: Jul.17 at 12:39 pm
  uh, where the f*%k is monta ellis? you have to put him in the top 15 at least

• Conan O' Rhymin Posted: Jul.17 at 2:31 pm
  Aaron Brooks anybody??…

• L Posted: Jul.17 at 3:33 pm
  Top 30 second round picks ONLY (no undrafted)since 1989:
  Manu Ginobili
  Carlos Boozer
  Gilbert Arenas
  Stephen Jackson
  Toni Kukoc
  Nick Van Excel
  Cliff Robinson
  Michael Redd
  Memet Okur
  Monta Ellis
  Mo Williams
  Antonio Davis
  Luis Scola
  Carl Landry
  Rafer Aslton
  Paul Millsap
  Cedric Ceballos
  Eric Snow
  Donny Marshall
  Trevor Ariza
  Louis Williams
  Roger Mason
  Steve Blake
  Jason Kapono
  Marcin Gortat
  Earl Watson
  CJ Miles
  Corey Brewer
  Anderson Verajao
  Malik Rose
  Byron Russell Let me know what you think of it. L

• Clayton Posted: Jul.17 at 9:51 pm
  haha trox. anyways better question…why isnt aaron brooks on this list? or atleast in the honourable mentions at the end..

• unrel Posted: Jul.18 at 2:10 am
  every time you guys see a list.. you turn it into a one-on-one tourney.. yes.. rondo is better than fisher.. but who’s had the better career so far?.. that’s why i can understand his placement being as high as it is.. you folks are crazy sometimes..

• Jukai Posted: Jul.18 at 4:36 am
  unrel: It’s not “who had the best career” it is “who were the best steals.” Honestly, Rondo was a far better pick than Fisher, who has hit HUGE shots in his career, but has never been even the third best man on any team he has been on

• Ronald Posted: Jul.18 at 5:27 am
  I know everyone is barking that its a Post-Lottery but limited to 1st Round article. But, is such an article really necessary? The discourse seems to be along the lines of players that were “steals” yet it seems to ignore 2nd round players or players that were undrafted. It also seems to forget that the average reader’s comprehension would have allowed them to easily miss out the fact that it’s 1st round focus.

• Hursty Posted: Jul.18 at 10:47 am
  man, some people are just plain stupid.

• VCsux Posted: Jul.18 at 7:14 pm
  very good list, however, i noticed a couple of errors…1) granger was drafted 17th overall in 05 – right after joey “don’t call me stephen” graham…2)ron artest was drafted 16th overall by CHI-city, not indiana….

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jul.18 at 8:35 pm
  Ronald: Yes such an article is necessary, because Post-Lottery first round is NOT THE SAME as second round! Of course there have been countless “steals” in the second round–but that has nothing to do with this article! It’s an interesting discussion to have here, which we can do in the comments section, but don’t complain about the article when it clearly tells you what its about.

• Clement Posted: Jul.23 at 7:06 am
  whether or not this list makes sense to you is whether or not we’re going by how good/talented a player is (and thus considered a “steal”), or how their career/resume panned out. It’s kinda like the debate between better vs. greater. That being said. i agree with everyone who said fisher is way too high. also granger is not 6-7, he’s listed at 6-8 and possibly taller. could list other mistakes on this list but wth.

• Kafele Posted: Jul.29 at 2:35 pm
  Wow, Steve Nash is def better then tony parker. 1. Put Tony parker on those Suns teams, n they dont even win 30 games. 2. If nash were on the spurs they prolly would have won 5 championships, you forget that Parker played with arguably the best Big PF in the game. 3. His MVPS were a joke? Ru on crack? This man made a complete team way better, besides Joe Johnson look at the numbers of the ppl that left the Suns…. Nuff said. Steve Nash is def better than Tony Parker.