Saturday, August 21st, 2010 at 4:53 pm  |  126 responses

Billups Hoping for 4 More Years in NBA

Billups, who will be 34 when the season starts, has two years left on his contract, but he may seek an extension before it expires. From the Denver Post: “I have hopefully four years left of playing,” Billups said, “and I’m not the kind of person to just ride it out. I want to win. I want to go out on top; I want to go out winning. …I want to get out there, get after it and play. And I want to win as a Nugget the rest of my years. In a perfect world that’s what I would want, that’s what I would hope for.”

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  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Better player: Chauncey Billups or Derek Fisher? I’m gonna have to split hairs, and go with Derek Fisher, the big shot making, 5 time NBA Champion, who as a LEADER has LED his teams to the Western Conference Finals for the last 4 SEASONS (the first one with the Jazz), and the NBA Finals the last 3 years winning two of them. Did you know? Kobe once said, after Fisher hit a game winning shot for the Jazz to beat the Dubs in the 2007 Playoffs, both he and Fisher were “made from the same cloth.” It’s all true. BOOK IT!

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    IAMORANGE4EVER: I will once again pose the question, do you think Robert Horry is better than Bernard King?

  • MikeC.

    @Jukai ^^^ That’s a tough one to nail down. Before the knee injury, Bernard was on track to be one of the greatest scorers in the history of basketball. Even after the injury he was still a feared scorer. Horry settled into a great career as a swiss-army knife type of player. Kinda like Lamar Odom with more range and less handles. All things considered, if it were me choosing for myself, I’d rather have Horry’s career than Bernard’s. However, if I could choose either in their prime to start a team, I’d take King in a heartbeat. If I already had an alpha-dog scorer, then I’d take Horry.

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    MikeC: That to me seems unreal. Maybe I underrated Horry as a player, but he just doesn’t seem that great, alpha dog or not. His career averages of 7-5-2 on 43$ shooting aren’t exactly hall of fame worthy. Or all-star worthy. Heesh.
    He’s hit many insane shots over his career, but most of those shots were when he was utterly wide open with everyone guarding Hakeem/Kobe/Shaq/Duncan. Wouldn’t you prefer to have Bernard King, who can DRAW those double teams and doesn’t need to be wide open to hit big shots, alpha dog or not?

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Oh, and if anyone watched the Spain v USA game today, we may have to start talking about Rubio in that up-and-coming-may-be-better-than-Billups category.
    Outside of getting blocked hardcore on that final shot, dude had a nice game. He school Lamar.

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    *He schooled Lamar. Damn, talking like an urban cave man.

  • JTaylor21

    Come on Jukai were we watching the same game? Wow he schooled a 6-11 Lamar Odom incredible! NOT. Dude is still overhyped and overrated in my opinion because he just doesn’t stand out when on the court which is something you expect from the so called next “GREAT ONE”.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Rubio better than Billups? Still with this Rubio hype? He’s not close to being better than Brandon Jennings… And why doesn’t he start ahead of Juan Carlos freaking Navarro if he’s supposed to be all that? Co-sign JTaylor on this one.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Jukai: Comparing a 7 time champion such as Big Shot Rob aka the greatest role player on a championship team in the history of the game to Bernard King, is like comparing apples to oranges. I’d say the closest thing the game has witnessed to the great Bernard King, is Carmelo Anthony. I believe Bernard King himself would agree with me. BOOK IT!

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Billups was a good player a winner but he is overrated imagine what we would think of him if he didn’t win that 04 finals MVP. He almost didn’t that could have easily gone to Ben Wallace. It wasn’t his team in 04, it was a total team effort to win the title that’s why Billups doesn’t get all the credit for it. He has Weak career averages, 15.6 ppg and 5 apg, doesn’t have 15 000 points. The only other player with career averages like that that will be in the Hall of Fame is Steve Nash and he has 2 MVP’s. Without that finals MVP in 04 Billups isnt much he is just in Derek Fisher status. In my opinion he isn’t a hall of famer but he’ll get in because his finals Mvp in 04 combined with his winning and the fact that he was a class act.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jtaylor21:
    I think Derrick Rose is a hell of a leader.
    He doesn’t throw anybody under the bus, and his teammates love him and they follow his lead.
    In the clutch…
    they look to him.
    He scared Boston in that classic Playoff battle.
    I could be wrong, though.
    Just my opinion.

  • The Philosopher

    But, I agree with you.
    He is still getting “hair on his chest”.
    If he doesn’t get hurt, and he maintains the eye of the tiger, he will have Chauncey Billups trying to mentor him like Cassell on John Wall.
    lol.
    Even if he doesn’t win a ring(s).

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor & Teddy-The-Better: Wha… did you guys not watch the Spain game? Dude was awesome.
    Teddy, you got to get your facts straight bro. Juan Carlos Navarro and Rubio both start in the Euros/ACB. In the Worlds, they’ve been experimenting with the lineups to get some energy off the bench, but Rubio is always playing down the stretch.
    I’m not saying Rubio’s going to be legendary— his lack of improvement has actually disappointed me— but the dude is NBA ready, hardcore. He’s easily a starter right now and has the TALENT to HYPOTHETICALLY be better than Billups (which he isn’t right now). I never said he will be better than Billups. I don’t like to make those jumps.
    IAMORANGE4EVER: Fisher is to Billups as Horry is to Bernard King. That’s just my opinion, but you have a better idea of why I think it’s so crazy to compare Fisher/Billups.

  • ciroqobama

    WOW someone said Rubio is better than Billups?! Slamonline comments are a fn joke at this point.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I watched the USA game today, and I’m officially excited to see what Rubio does in the league.
    I wasn’t on team Rubio before, and I still think he’ll have some growing pains, but dude is more athletic than he was two years ago, his jumper is improved, and dude’s court vision is nice. I think he gets too cute on his passes and his handle needs work, but dude can ball, and I look forward to him passing to cats who can finish what he’s delivering.
    Gotta give respect to all the cats who were hyping him for a while because I can see why y’all liked dude now.

  • tavoris

    Allenp-his talent is undeniable. However, I think he’s gonna have a HARD adjustment to the NBA game, and the Fernandez debacle has me wondering whether he’s got the toughness to handle the pressure of not being “the man”

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Jukai: I’m still not sold on Rubio, but I do respect your uncanny ability to separate the actual player from amidst the annoying person… So I’ll be keeping an eye out these games to see if he is the real deal.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    Jesus— f’in read ciroqobama. He’s NOT BETTER THAN BILLUPS. HE HAS THE UPSIDE TO BE. NO ONE SAID RUBIO IS BETTER THAN BILLUPS.
    Tavoris: He may not handle the pressure, but he’ll be going to an infinitely better situation than Fernandez…. Fernandez came to a team with a lot of fantastic guards, he had to compete with Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Miller, etc. etc…
    Rubio is coming to Minnesota where his competition is f’ing Luke Ridnour and that short guy whose name I am blocking right now and am too lazy to even google it. Rubio’s starting spot is pretty much guaranteed.
    He may crumble. Spacing is way different in the NBA and I think he’ll have trouble with more caved in defenses…. he may very well jump back to Europe after a year or two of frustration. But I don’t think he’ll have competition for his spot. I think Sota is pretty much gonna hand it to him on a platter.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    Really, a lot of Euro players can’t handle the NBA. Not that they can’t ADJUST given time, it’s that they don’t want too. If you look at it from their way, they can be stars and make just as much money in their own country where they feel comfortable. If you look at it from my perspective, they’re p*ssies. So I wont be surprised if Rubio ditches.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai is right. The only person I can remember that didn’t pout when things weren’t going his way was Dirk and we see where his perseverance has gotten him too. People may think that Dirk’s soft and all that but dude is a very tough minded player. Other european players have a sense of entitlement and unwillingness to only be a ROLE player instead of the MAIN guy. Their problem is that they’re not as good as they and other people think they are and them coming to play ball in the NBA just proves that. If your good enough to play and star in the NBA, your talent will always SHINE through.

  • jammal o

    jammal o thinks billups is overrated, takes horrible shots, and cost detroit a couple years esp in ecf

  • ClydeSays

    Billups was a clutch shooter in his prime.
    He and Rip were the best offensive backcourt in basketball for a
    few years. I don’t know that Chauncey was
    a great playmaker, but he got the job done.
    If he somehow gets Denver into the Finals this coming season, he’ll secure his legacy….

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    OK, yall, Billups was a good player, but like someone said his career average is 15pts and 5 asissts. The Pistons 04 team was a TOTAL team effort, Billups was a key, but Prince defense on Kobe, Wallace defense on Shaq, Rip hitting every mid range shot. Sheed post up and bringing the big out the middle. Billups played well, but lets be honest most of those games were decided after the 1st quarter, I call it stat stacking, were he could take his ususal horrible shots, but there would be no opposition if they lost. I knew from game one it was over. THe key to the Lakers demise cats is Karl being hurt, Gary age catching up, Kobe being doubled, Fisher not hitting and Shaq was getting out hustled. Yall cats forget, Shaq had good numbers, but the Pistons whole game plan was to try to let Shaq beat them, Ben played Shaq one on one. Shaq couldn’t do it, so games were over and Shaq got his numbers, because some of yall are posting them like Shaq killed that series. Games were over and Shaq padded his numbers, not on purpose, but it was over most of the time in the first half. I would have given the FINALS MVP to Big Ben. I felt it was his team not Billups. Thats why everybody was surprise that Billups played well, because he hasn’t really played like that before. I call it the Mike Bibby effect, where if you play the Lakers and is a guard look good, you get put up on a pedastal. I think Mike was overrated but on the Kings he was considered top 5 point guard then, mainly for what he did against the Lakers. I take nothing from Billups, but taking horrible shots and disappearing does not make up for one Finals MVP to me. Watch the Nuggets this year and pay attention to Billups trying to live up to his Big Shot name from 6 years ago. He does not have it and he disappeared after pushing the Spurs to seven games. At that time, Rip was considered the best player, so people taking Billups over Derek Harper, even Sam Cassell, doesnt understand, he played a part in the Lakers defeat, but he was not the major key. DEFENSE was the key, started by BIG BEN. BOOK IT!!!

  • tavoris

    @JTaylor-anybody who think Dirk’s soft hasn’t watched him play in like 4 years.
    @Jukai-I’m rooting for any player with his skill level tho.
    @Clydesays-if Melo isn’t there after the trade deadline, then they won’t make the playoffs-much less the finals.

  • dsleepy21

    @The Seed: you’re reaching there. first of all, those lists of players better than billups are whack. i saw ron harper’s name and almost did a spit take. somebody said “definition of a 4th player” and yep, that was him. and tony parker? c’mon dude…he’s good but billups is a much better floor general by far.
    @JTaylor: Rod strickland was the truth. i think you could at least make an argument for him > chauncey

  • Ronald

    Wow, I’m surprised at what Jukai said. European players are cowards (lack of a better word) for not wanting to come to the NBA? Considering tax repercussions, fame and weather (ignoring the stigma European players get and lackluster fans) I wouldn’t call them cowards by any stretch. Considering the “Go get yours’, and “Do what’s right for you fam’” attitude the American players have (which I agree to a large extent) I don’t see how they are cowards as much as doing a smart business decision.

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