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Thursday, August 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm  |  81 responses

Blazers May Not Cede to Fernandez

by Ryne Nelson

Rudy Fernandez has notified the Trail Blazers that he will not report to training camp and that he intends to return to Europe.

Blazers GM Rich Cho has looked at several possible deals involving the Spaniard, but none of them have made sense for Portland. Cho told Yahoo! that, until something favorable comes up, he has no plans of releasing Rudy from his contract.

“I’ve spoken to Rudy’s agent and I’m aware of his feelings,” Cho said. “At the end of the day we’ll make the best decision for the organization.”

When asked if there’s any trade scenario Fernandez would consider, Miller said: “I honestly don’t believe so – no, I certainly don’t think so.”

It appears that Rudy has played his last game for the Blazers. Unfortunately, the trade market has almost completely dried up, as Fernandez wants to return to Spain and no longer has interest in being traded to another NBA team.

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  • http://google J-RO

    Free Rudy?

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    I agree with the Blazers on this one, Rudy signed the contract and needs to live up to it. The Blazers shouldn’t be ‘forced’ to trade him or to just let him go. The idea that Rudy is not asking for a buy-out is interesting. If anything he should pay the Blazers to let him go with some kind of agreement that they still ‘own his rights’ if he ever wants to come back to the NBA.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Prima Donna.

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    Lloron

  • bharr

    this is depressing…Rudy is nice…

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    As a Blazer fan, I’d just be happy to get rid of this guy for a 12th man (5th guard) we already have Matthews as a back-up 2, and Bayless as a back-up 1.. I think we just need another, maybe combo guard for injury insurance..

  • The Philosopher

    Quitter.

  • Raeniel

    Hedo Turkoglu 2.0

  • Str8in It Out

    There’s something going on in Portland. Andre Miller- the uber professional- had to b!tch and moan last year to get some love. And even still, he had to wait for injuries to decimate their roster before he was given a green light to shine. And shine he did. I never understood why they signed Andre if they were going to continue starting Steve Blake. Made no $en$e. Can’t front. I agree with Rudy on this. His rookie season he looked like a guy who could hold his own, a dude who could dribble the ball and make plays and get his shot off the dribble. But they play an offense dominated mostly by Roy. With a PG like Miller who also works best with the ball in his hands using the drive & kick game. Then they also feed the post when LaMarcus is on. There’s not enough room in the offense for Rudy to create. Why not just let him go to another team? Why he gotta go back to Europe for? FREE RUDY

  • http://twitter.com/queerballs dma

    he had a good rookie year, don’t get me wrong. but he should have known playing behind the 3rd best SG in the league he wasn’t going to get much minutes, but he still got 24mpg. when he was given more minutes, he never produced – see 2010 playoffs and all the other games when roy was injured. he’s gone from fan favorite to public enemy #1 here in portland. he sucked it up so bad in the playoffs that the team rushed Roy back from injury and then signed wes matthews. then with his constant whining, he lost all leverage and now looks like a diva. 82 DNP CDs are coming next year, and that’s assuming he’ll even be on the active roster.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Andre Miller had problems because Brandon Roy wants the ball in his hands a lot, and Nate Mcmillian and the Blazers love Brandon Roy. So they didn’t want to anger him.
    Rudy got no tick because he’s J.R. Smith with less swagger. And the Blazers didn’t need him.

  • Str8in It Out

    @dma, with both Andre Miller and Roy dominating the ball Rudy is right to complain about his ROLE…not his minutes. I read somewhere that he has a problem with his role in the offense being used as a shooter only with limited ball handling. He says that’s not what he was told when he decided to leave the Euroleague as a top player. Dude can handle the rock and makes good decisions with the pill be it passing or creating his own shot. Can’t fault the guy for wanting a chance to continue developing his game with a team that wants him to grow…not just sitting at the 3 point line waiting for someone to throw him a bone every now and again. He has a problem with Portland cuz they are asking for too much in return and that’s why they haven’t been able to move him yet. Send his butt to Phoenix to back up Jason Richardson or Charlotte behind Jackson and Augustin. He’d be a good 6th man for either team. That’s my word.

  • Mr. Robinson

    Dude cant hang and he gave up.
    nuttin wrong wit it as long as you can admit it. (he hasnt admitted it)
    Rudy is soft. He aint the only one.
    And Nate is a hell of a coach period!

  • Drew

    Seriously, if you signed a contract you should honor it. He doesn’t get it, there’s billions of people who would love to get paid millions to play basketball. He’s living a the dream and he’s acting like a f*cking b*tch!

  • Mr. Robinson

    Hey, YO!
    SUPER COSIGN DREW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Str8in It Out

    @Allenp, JR Smith? That dude has no passing game. He’s a dunce with the ball in his hands. He’s a pure SG who needs a good PG to distribute the ball. Not Rudy. And JR doesn’t play behind a guy like Roy either…so that comparison is type off. 2 strikes. Rudy is a dude who can come off the bench and get into the paint and dish it off no problem or step back and hit a contested J. Kind of sad cuz he looks to have taken steps back in his development after a good rook campaign. But if you think about it…with Miller and Roy and before when they hadn’t traded Blake…and now with Batum getting the starting nod over Martell Webster…those wing positions were filled. It’s not like they were even willing to slide Roy over to the SF spot either cuz the Blazers are loaded with other dudes who could man that. You can’t blame Rudy for wanting out. The Blazers asking too much but they got him sitting on the bench playing a castrated version of his game. For what? He’s still young too…at around 26. Hasn’t hit his prime yet either. If he doesn’t get to a team where he can spread his wings a bit, his next contract will look like kitchen scraps. Not a good look. For that he might as well flip them the bird and get his $$ in Euro…but he would rather get a chance on a different team in the NBA…or at least I thought he did. It sounds like he just wants out now. Too bad too…he could’ve been a contender.

  • Str8in It Out

    whatever drew…paid millons in american dollars. right? he could be making millions MORE in EUROS playing at home in SPAIN starting on a team contending for a championship…not stuck on a bench. do the math. euros > dollars. he’s already sacrificing to play with the blazers…in terms of taking less money, dealing with a different culture and eating shyte in the process. and the situation doesn’t seem to be getting better. it might be better for him to deal with breaking his contract cuz he’ll recoup the money lost in the NBA after signing his first euro contract. do the research.

  • Mr. Robinson

    Cosign str8tin it Out too, though.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Str8in
    Actually, before the Nuggets got Ty Lawson, they woudl regularly run Smith as the primary ball handler with the second unit and tell him to just go out and create shots for himself and teammates. So, while he’s a shooting guard, he can pass when so inclined, I’ve seen him do it.
    Both players can’t go left, have a questionable basketball IQ but good athleticism, and both rely way too much on three pointers.
    You can’t tell me that Rudy was only “allowed” to shoot threes when there are other players on the floor who have done more than that with their time on the court, namely Travis Outlaw and Bayless.
    Rudy refused to improve on defense, he struggled with injuries and he failed to impress when given minutes. He’s not the best player on the team, so the Blazers are not concerned with running the team to maximize his talents. He lacked the game to figure out how to shine.
    That’s the bottom line.

  • Mr. Robinson

    But if rudy was good enough, it wouldn’t even MATTER

  • Robb

    wimp

  • Str8in It Out

    @Allenp, I’m not arguing with those points about his game. Not at all. All good points (except for the JR comparison…won’t give you that one. Weren’t they starting Anthony Carter over JR Smith at one point? C’mon? Answer me this…Who else Denver got at the SG who is better than JR? I’ll tell you. No one. And they took forver to start him. Cuz the kid lacks it upstairs…in the domepiece. His noodle is under cooked. My point is, that’s a bad comparison cuz he’s not playing behind a top tier SG like Rudy is. Yet somehow you compared JR to Rudy…which tells me JR < Rudy. Cuz Rudy is in a tougher spot than JR is.) I’m arguing your points and the politics of why he’s not better now than his rookie season. I’m asking “why is Rudy worse now than his rookie season”? Cuz to me, it makes no sense. I’m not saying Rudy should be starting or getting more minutes or whatever. And neither is Rudy. I’m saying Portland should let his ass go somewhere where he is needed and wanted before its too late (if it isn’t already). Nate McMillan is playing guys who play tough D and play the roles he’s assigned to them. Great, but that’s not working for Rudy on Nate’s team. Rudy is saying, “This ain’t working for me Nate. Trade me to someone else.” And my problem is with the front office who hasn’t traded him yet. FREE RUDY!! btw, Brandon Roy wasn’t this good when Rudy signed up. And Travis Outlaw wasn’t exactly lighting it up either. I like Outlaw’s game and am really happy to see him going to NJ. They traded him as an expiring contract along with Blake too so you can’t tell me that the Blazers valued Outlaw. Thats a stretch but I’ll give you a pass on that argument.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I compared their games. Look at their games. The way they play the game is very, very similar. I’m not talking about their situation, I’m talking about their style of play. Look at their skillset, the shots they take and the shots they don’t take. The Nuggest regularly played J.R. Smith as the main scorer and ball handler with the second unit back in the day, I used to watch all of their games.
    The Blazers traded Outlaw for a CENTER, after they lost Joel and Oden to season ending injuries and were starting Juwan Howard. They didn’t need a swingman and point guard as much as they needed a big body to try to keep the playoff push rolling. Come on, that’s obvoious.
    Rudy pouting because he’s riding the bench. That’s his choice. But he’s not riding the bench because life is unfair. He’s riding the bench because he’s failed to perform in the time alloted him.
    Bayless had a reason to pout when he couldn’t get any tick. Then when he got his shot, he went CRAZY and forced Nate to find time for him in the future. Rudy didn’t. It’s not about the system as much as it’s about Rudy failing to play defense and be aggressive. He was forced to shoot threes because the best player on team has always been a ball dominating guard. And that still had not impact on his ability to play defense.
    Bottom line, Rudy got chances to play. He was hurt by his inability to figure out how to shine while playing alongside Roy, but his horrible defense, by his pouting and by his injuries. It’s as much his fault as anyone else’s.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    I’m with the Blazers on this one.

    And for the record, I like the Rudy/JR Smith comparison. I see similarities, definitely do. JR has some really nice passing skills – when he chooses to use them of course.

  • Str8in It Out

    Dude, its kind of funny to discuss these two guys and ignore their situations. Rudy has Brandon Roy starting over him and JR Smith has Aaron Afflalo. C’mon. Gimme a break. Brandon Roy is top-tier and Afflalo averages 18 minutes a game. I’m not going to ignore that. But whatever, let’s continue. When I see JR play well, its his power game to the rack, his slashing, his ability to finish despite contact, his range. And that’s the only similarity to Rudy. The range on his jumpshot. But JR is 220 lbs and Rudy is 185. Rudy got way more handle and court-vision and was way more unselfish when he first got in the league. He’s getting greedier with the ball the last few times I saw him play. Not a good sign. You talk about his defense but maybe you should mention that his a little light in the ass to be guarding SG’s in the league. Check the Game Logs of last season and notice how he did well against teams with smaller guards…when he got minutes. Cuz his minutes were all over the place. One more thing, telling me he can’t play defense after two seasons in the NBA and trying to pass it off as a reason for why he gets no time BEHIND A SUPERSTAR, while you compare him to a dude who’s been in the league for 6 years who plays behind AARON AFFLALO and outweighs him by 35 lbs playing the same position…won’t get me to agree. Nah, man. That’s strike 3. Just FREE RUDY. He’s a 6’6″ PG/SG, trying to find a home. If anyone out there knows someone who can show him a little love and attention please call…1-800-FRE-RUDY

  • JD

    Dont go Rudy! The NBA will be a sadder place without you!

  • T-Money

    Free Rudy from what exactly? The Blazers gave him a chance to shine in the playoffs, he was the starting SG when Roy went down and he didn’t do sh–. He’s their 4th swingman now behind Roy, Batum and Matthews and you know what, that’s where he belongs. He asked for a trade, the Blazers looked into it and didn’t like what they were getting back. Either he accepts playing 15 mins a game while looking to unseat Matthews and Batum or he sits out and ruins his NBA career. His choice.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    y are no teams interested in him? i think taj gibson for rudy would be a great deal.. he would get considerable playing time in chi-town and honestly both teams could benefit from this

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    str8in it out, i like your points. but i just have to point out –
    you’re saying you cant compare rudy and jr cause rudy plays behind a superstar, while jr plays behind aaron afflalo. aaron only gets 18 minutes a game, therefore JR is on the court the majority of the time. by your logic, jason terry and ginobli aren’t that great either..

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    @T-Money: Agreed. What are we freeing Rudy from? He was given good minutes in his rookie year, hit crazy amounts of threes, had some injury issues last year – still played, flopped in the playoffs in a bigger role. So yeah, colour me confused.

  • Str8in It Out

    @JTaylor, you just contradicted urself in one comment so u don’t even get a rebuttal. @davidR, that’s not my logic, that’s yours. don’t pin that silliness on me. For starters, JTerry does start occasionally and so does Ginobili…Rudy doesn’t. And they were both born in 77, which makes them 8 years older than JR and Rudy. Passed their prime or in the midst of depending on your perspective. Rudy has yet to reach his and has options in Europe, so why should he accept a place on the bench on a team like Portland that ain’t going nowhere with Oden’s creaky ass knees. Finally, Gino has 8 yrs of NBA experience while JT has 10 years. You just compared them to a 26 year old dude who has 2 years of NBA experience. Not exactly apples to apples. But at least they are more or less Rudy’s size so you weren’t all wrong. JTerry’s about 180 lbs and 6’2″ which would explain why he comes off the bench as a PG/SG which would be a good role for Rudy. Gino is 205 lbs at 33 yrs old. Rudy might be able to put 20 lbs after 7 years of playing in the NBA. I bet Rudy would love to be on either Dallas or San Antonio in place of either Terry or Ginobili…but that ain’t gonna happen.

  • John

    Trade him to Toronto. It’s like Spain in the NBA

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Str
    If dude’s been in the league three years and hasn’t put on weight and muscle, whose fault is that?
    J.R. Smith came straight from high school, he wasn’t always the size he is now, he put in the work.
    I’m not arguing about their situations, I said that their games were the same, so I don’t get all the hype. A Slam writer actually posted that Rudy had the “potential” to be better than Roy, and might already be there.
    Rudy gets no tick because his game is very much like J.R. Smith’s and Nate McMillian doesn’t need to play somebody like that. Period.

  • Str8in It Out

    I feel the need to clarify myself and air out your contradictions…in your own words of course…”Free Rudy from what exactly?” “He’s their 4th swingman now” and “that’s where he belongs”. “Either he accepts playing 15 mins a game”…”or he sits out and ruins his NBA career”. “Free Rudy from what exactly?”

  • Str8in It Out

    ok allenP, I’m starting to agree with you. About his weight…It’s only his 3rd year coming up. Euro ball is more about team ball not strength. That’s not up for argument. Every Euro has problems matching up with size which is why it takes them awhile to get that aspect of their game together. Dirk took what…like 6 years or something. And he’s still considered soft to a lot of people. You can’t expect Rudy to be where he needs to be after 2 years. Not his fault. The players don’t gain weight during the season (unless you’re Eddy Curry) they lose it. How would you put on 20-30 lbs of muscle in two off seasons? Especially without it affecting your game? “Rudy gets no tick because his game is very much like J.R. Smith’s and Nate McMillian doesn’t need to play somebody like that.” I think Rudy is saying “I’m not like JR Smith, I won’t be like JR Smith. And if that is all coach wants from me then you should trade me somewhere where they want me to be Rudy”? And that’s within his rights. A man should be able to ask out. The roster is deep enough where the team can let him go. This ain’t the Blazers of 2 years ago. Didn’t they still have Steve Francis on their ledger? Where did that extra money go? Oh, yeah. Marcus Camby. Woops.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’m still stuck on how somebody could watch Rudy and J.R. Smith and not see the glaring similarities between their games, right down to the folks stuck on their “potential” so much they ignore their reality.
    As people have said, the team found playing time for Rudy is rookie year. It wasn’t because he as so much closer to Roy as a player, it was because he was bringing enough to the table to play.
    He wasn’t the last two years, so while he got some shots, he sat a lot too.
    Bayless sat just as much, but when dude got his chance, he balled HARD. He forced Nate to play him more because the team couldn’t rationalize him riding the bench any longer. If you can’t see this, you don’t want to see it. Besides, Brandon Roy has been injury prone his whole career, Rudy has had shots. He just hasn’t gotten it done.
    WHY CAN’T HE GO LEFT?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Str
    Nah, you’re making excuses for your boy.
    Three years into the league, he could have put on some weight. Look at what Chauncey Billups did from his rookie year to his third year. Or Horace Grant, or Scottie Pippen. Players put on muscle when they remain dedicated.
    The truth is, Rudy, like Pau Gasol, probablyd idn’t see lifting as a priority. But, this is a different game, and he should have known that before he came in, or at least recognized it once he got in the league. Besides, if he was riding the bench as much as you complain he was, then he had plenty of time to workout and put on weight, right?
    You haven’t watched J.R. Smith play enough, you really haven’t. He doesn’t jack threes because that’s all the team asks him to do, he jacks those shots because he settles for those jumpers and lacks the sophistication in his game to get better shots.
    Just like Rudy.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    Bayless would have had more reason to be frustrated than Rudy. God knows he sat more. Now look.

  • Str8in It Out

    Am I the only one tripping cuz in my memory, Rudy’s only played two seasons. And all the stats online say he’s played two seasons so I’m thinking I must be tripping. Or maybe not, I dont know. “Bayless sat just as much, but when dude got his chance, he balled HARD.” I just looked at their averages and they looked pretty similar. Rudy played 100 minutes more over the course of the last season…took a sh!tload more 3 pointers and shot worse (which isn’t a surprise if all you set him up for is predictable 3 pointers in a boring Nate McMillan offense, shouldn’t be surprising…AT ALL) But otherwise, their stats looked similar if you consider their positions. You know, like Rudy got more rebounds and steals and Bayless got more assists. But overall their production was the same ON AVERAGE. So who is not seeing what? Maybe ya’ll expected more out of Rudy. Not his fault. Bayless is at PG, he’ll handle the ball more. Roy, we all know, already HAS to handle it and Andre Miller (who wasn’t their in Rudy’s 1st yr) OF COURSE handles it alot. I won’t even count Steve Blake in the first half of last season. That means less touches for Rudy to produce. Yet, he managed to produce as much as Bayless who you talk about as if dude had a breakout year. I don’t know. I don’t see why if you think Rudy had such a terrible season, why you wouldn’t want him gone. ASAP. For a pick or two or whatever. Just to be rid of him and make him happy or whatever.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    @str8, you’re also ignoring the fact that JR is needed for the second unit’s offense. and again, i’m gonna reiterate — why does it matter so much to you that aaron afflalo starts ahead of jr smith? jr ends up playing the majority of the game anyway, similar to ginobli and terry, both SGs that come off the bench (moreso terry).
    even if you disagree with me, there’s nothing you can say to justify rudy blowing his golden opportunity. roy goes down, and misses some playoff games. the door was WIDE open for rudy. instead, he fails, and bayless decided to get his.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Rudy played more minutes and shot worse than Bayless during the year, but the scored the same amount of points.
    But, in the playoffs when the team was in need of a spark, Bayless upped his scoring and play tremendously to the point where the Suns HID STEVE NASH ON RUDY BECAUSE BAYLESS WAS KILLING HIM SO MUCH.
    If you’re the player that is designated as the guy Steve Nash guards, then you’re failing. Period.

  • Str8in It Out

    AP, There you go describing Rudy to Pippen and Horace…man, where’d that come from? Excuses about what? Adding 20 lbs of muscle in 2 off seasons? For real? You think that’s easy? And for the record, he’s not my boy. I like a ton more players before this dude but I do think he’s getting a raw deal and he’s not being allowed to fulfill his promise if they don’t move him and force him to go to Europe. Maybe he’s bluffing, which he might be, but what if he’s not. That would be sh!tty. Rudy like Pau? Yeah, maybe thats true. Some dudes just don’t want to bulk up. Not their philosophy. So what? You gonna keep him at the end of your bench instead of trading him for that? I say they should both just move on. “he had plenty of time to workout and put on weight” yeah, how’s that gonna look? “Hey, coach, I’ll be in the back training my bi’s and tri’s…just give me a holler when you wanna sub me in. Talk to u in a bit” Yeah right. Thats tomfoolery man. “he jacks those shots because he settles for those jumpers” I don’t presume to know why they both jack 3′s. It could be there “lack of sophistication” or it could be a limitation they FEEL they have in the offensive scheme. It could be different things for them both or it could be the same. I don’t know. Let’s pretend you’re in practice everyday and coach tells you “If you’re open, shoot the shot. You got your bigs down there”. I don’t know. It could be that JR or Rudy are not option #1 for their team and they don’t have the freedom a Melo or Roy would have to dribble drive and try to create. Not really my problem. The problem is getting rid of Rudy. btw, I’ve seen JR make “nice” passes before. I know he can make the occasional sweet look but it’s not like I would describe him as a good passer. I’ve watched him play enough since he was young. I like dude’s game. His strength, his D is OK, his shot is deep, good handles for a dude his size, exciting as hell and can get hot stupid quick. But I wouldn’t put him at the PG and expect him to run the team well. Rudy, I think, with some practice could manage just fine. That’s the difference. JR I would run at the SF especially as he ages and slows down, that will be his position. And Rudy, as he gets older and refines his passing game could morph into a backup PG, backup scoring guard. Some similarities but not similar players. That’s how I see things.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    we’ll leave it at this — the blazers and rudy both need to part ways for a fresh start.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    The Blazers are messing Rudy up. I still feel Rudy is better than Bayless and others, but now they got Matthews, so why need Rudy. THe Blazers should have kept Martel Webster and traded Rudy away. The Blazers management is stupid, didn’t they fire Kevin Pritchard who turned the team around with drafting Roy, he did mess up with Oden, but hey the Blazers picked Bowie over MJ, what you expect. Rudy is being done wrong, the Blazers don’t use him right, then the scrub Coach takes him out of games for no reason. The Blazers signed a dude that the Jazz signed as a free agent to too much money, but you can’t trade Rudy. The Blazers are doing them self in. BOOK IT!!

  • fruity4rudy

    Coach Nate made this mess. sorry. its true.

  • Str8in It Out

    davidR, it doesn’t matter to me that Afflalo starts. I like him too. I think they’re grooming him to be a starter cuz he’s a good young team player who plays a “headier”, more mature game than Smith. But he’s young, prone to picking up fouls and he’s only got 3 years in the league. “golden opportunity”…my ass. They lost that series and it wasn’t cuz of Rudy’s lack of production. They got their asses handed to them by Phoenix and were blown out 3 out of 4 games. Pure and simple, Nate instilled an offense predicated on Roy and Roy wasn’t there. They traded for Camby and he saved their asses by providing everything they wished Oden or Aldridge would provide. Andre Miller had a sh!t year too. That’s Nate’s fault. Look what Andre did for Philly. He left and their whole team fell apart. Fact is, Nate hasn’t figured out how to run a system that incorporates Miller as the centerpiece cuz he’s in love with Roy. Whatever, that’s not the issue. The issue is let’s get Rudy out of there cuz he recognizes a losing battle when he sees one. @allenP, Rudy averaged very little minutes in that series. And the B’zers got blown out. Many of the B’zers had terrible games averaging many more minutes. So what? btw, if you have seen it somewhere that Rudy wants to start or is crying about minutes, I’d like to see it. Cuz I have not. Have you seen the latest headline “Blazers’ Rudy Fernandez fined by NBA” hahahahaha, Blazers gonna have to trade him now

  • Shem

    How many years does Rudy have left on his contract?

  • Str8in It Out

    cosign Seed, I won’t even get in on management. davidR, I agree @6:54pm

  • LA Huey

    Rudy does not deserve 50 comments. Close this ish.

  • Str8in It Out

    i read somewhere he got 2 yrs left, that he’s willing to just walk away… no buyout no nothing. he’s making like $1.1 million a yr here…and was reportedly offered like 18 mil in europe. he doesnt need the blazrs or the NBA. he definitely not a b!tch. a b!tch is someone who sits there and allows themselves to be played for a fool while their opportunity dries up.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Allenp shows again why hes my favorite commentator on here. Fairying it out is an ignoramous that rides the short bus. On why rudy hasnt done any work to improve physically, ‘tomfoolery’ haha what a dingus. Rudy plays no d, hasnt improved, cries about mins, and wonders why he doesnt play more.

  • Fitz

    You can keep performing fellating on Rudy all you want. He is still acting like a whiny little b!tch!

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    yea they lost, but they had no business winning any of those games. they were decimated by injuries and shoulda been swept. of course it’s not rudy’s fault they lost, but he also didn’t help them win. but how was roy not being there for 4(?) games not a golden opportunity for rudy? against phoenix of all teams? he should’ve gone off on them, but for some reason didnt. i like rudy, and think he’s very talented as evidenced by his flashes of brilliance and the 08 olympics, but its clear to me that both parties need a fresh new start. the playoffs were a huge indicator of that.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I liked scrots and allenp’s back-and-forth. Great points made by both sides.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    I don’t always agree with AllenP, but I’m always interested in his arguments whether for or against. The man puts together his case.

    You too Str8in – it made for interesting reading.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Goooood riddance. Soft overrated, shot happy, arrogant punk (i speak out of personal experience, this dude acts like an entitled one)

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    Allenp Posted: Aug.19 at 6:37 pm
    Rudy played more minutes and shot worse than Bayless during the year, but the scored the same amount of points.
    But, in the playoffs when the team was in need of a spark, Bayless upped his scoring and play tremendously to the point where the Suns HID STEVE NASH ON RUDY BECAUSE BAYLESS WAS KILLING HIM SO MUCH.
    If you’re the player that is designated as the guy Steve Nash guards, then you’re failing. Period.
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    Truest thing ALlenp has said ever

  • Str8in It Out

    “but how was roy not being there for 4(?) games not a golden opportunity for rudy?” Cuz even tho Roy isn’t there its still the same stag”NATE” system of McMillan. It was 3 games until a still-injured Roy came back which goes to show you how much Roy is needed to run the system. They were willing to let a dude on one knee come out and play. But whatever, they were gonna lose that series no matter what. Rudy had a back surgery during the year and wasn’t lighting up during the reguar season. What made people think he was going to turn it on asll of a sudden during the playoffs against a running team in PHX while playing a slow-it-down-at-all-cost system like Nate is running. I mean, they don’t even fast break after a lot of their good defensive plays. Boring! Rudy is not complaining about minutes, he’s talking about he doesnt like the system. Its good for a one on one player like Bayless cuz it fits his playing style but not for Rudy. And as far as D, Rudy gets his steals playing the passing lanes so its not like he’s useless on that end. He just gets bodied up on a regular basis and lacks the physique so far to do anything about it. I think its a coach’s job to put the player in a position to succeed…but that’s just me. Shoot, Andre Miller is even having trouble in the system…and you can’t call that dude a baby. I promise this will be my last post on the subject. Its officially an overkill. Unless someone directs something at me. Peace. It was fun.

  • MikeC.

    Trade him to NY. We’ll send the Blazers a 2nd-round pick and Eddy Curry’s dirty dishes.

  • JTaylor21

    Why do people keep on acting like putting on 20 pounds over 2 years is such a daunting task. If I can put on 15 pounds in 5 months why can’t a NBA player with all those resources; world-class trainer, weight room, and chefs. Rudy is nothing but a soft, jump shooting, non-defensive sucker who believes that he’s actually better than he really is. The blazers should just ignore him, keep him on contract making sure that his whiney a** doesn’t run back to europe. If this was an american player doing the exact same thing people will be bit*hing bout how they’re ungrateful, selfish bastards.

  • Scottie Pimpin

    im so glad they didnt give up taj gibson for this bum.

  • tavoris

    Fernandez is 25 years old. Really ppl, he’s about as good as he’s ever gonna be. Wanting out of a good situation speaks more about his character than anything, because players on every championship team sacrifice for the greater good. Kobe can jack up 30 shots a game whenever the hell he wants to. That doesn’t mean the Lakers would have won the last two seasons with him doing that. Rudy needs to play his role, make the most of his time, and stop whining. You have the opportunity to learn from an ELITE shooting guard. The only players challenging you for minutes are an erratic young PG and a injury-prone SF who also feels under-utilized. If Rudy isn’t getting minutes or a bigger role, it’s because he hasn’t EARNED it.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    @str8, all good man. made for interesting conversation, and ultimately i dont think anyone disagrees that rudy and portland needa part ways

  • http://twitter.com/queerballs dma

    Rudy’s stuck in a terrible situation that he and nate mcmillain put him in. nate uses him as a shooter because rudy can’t get to the hole. he only goes right but isn’t quick or strong enough to get around his defender, so naturally he settles for jumpers. he’s basically me when i play basketball. and free rudy from what? it’s his own fault. he got a chance last year to have a bigger role and he was ineffective to the point they had to offer wes matthews his job at an insane price. portland tried to trade him, but he kept jacking his trade value by complaining. again, a hole he dug himself in. portland would be lucky to get a 1st rounder back.

  • T-Money

    Seriously, people? We’re talking about Rudy Fernandez! Rudy. Fernandez. What is it that I’m missing here? He’s a marginal NBA player. A dime a dozen. His problem is that he doesn’t have the skill level to be a playmaker in the NBA like he was in Europe. Even his heralded athleticism is pretty average for a 2-guard. What he can do really well at the NBA level is shoot threes, that’s it. The Blazers are not using him as a shooter; shooting is all he can do out there. That’s a big difference.

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  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Fernandez could be a great 2 for the right team…. He can shoot, he can hit a big shoot, he can score, in the right system… DO NOT mistake him for a tough guy… He CAN NOT take a hit, check (lakers) Ariza hit on him in a Blazers/Lakers game.. (Ill admit, I was pissed) but It was a flagrent foul, that Rudy sat like 3 games to heal.. I am thinking Ill give Dumars he, and a draft pick, for ANY of the Pistons 2 guards. (Hamilton,Gordon, Stucky.) He came here thinkin’ he was gonna get Gasol-like minutes, WRONG!- trade the cry-baby!!!!!

  • T-Money

    str8 – he can’t just rip his contract and play for a FIBA team. FIBA has an agreement with the NBA to not poach players. If he doesn’t want to play for Portland, then he’s not playing competitive basketball until 2012.

  • tavoris

    T-Money: thank u.

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    T-Money: Uh, what’s stopping him exactly? Can you give me a link to this agreement FIBA has with the NBA?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I would never trade Taj Gibson for Rudy.
    Taj Gibson is legit. He may never be a star, but I see him easily being a double double guy who gives you very good defense. He’s a more talented Udonis Haslem and if he puts in the work, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him make at least two All-Star games in his career. You don’t trade that type of big man for a swingman. Swingmen grow on trees.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    T-Money
    Didn’t I say that same thing about his athleticism when everybody in the world was swinging from his nuts during the Olympics?
    Dude is not garbage, but nothing about his game right now says “star.” He has talent, but he also has glaring holes in his game. Like, massive holes.

  • tavoris

    @Jukai-The Blazers can force him to sit and not play professional basketball anywhere. It’s the spirit of a contract. Most teams just release the player & cut their losses. But then again, this is the same team that fired Pritchard an hour before the NBA Draft.

  • http://slamonline.com/ blacker_mamba

    Rudy is SCARED to play in the NBA. If he was “good”, he would be playing a lot more minutes. The fact is that he is just a garbage time player, and has made himself believe that alone should guarantee him more playing time.

  • thefroh

    Rudy has no leverage here.

    He gave the Blazers a list of only three teams that he would accept being traded to, which ties Rich Cho’s hands.

    From the Blazers’ perspective, they can let him rot overseas and not miss much. It’s a shame, really.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Rudy has plenty of leverage when you consider any number of European teams would take him – It’s just a matter of cutting his loses.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Whats more it’s not actually about leverage, he’s not saying play me more or I walk….he’s just walking…. O_o

  • wilz

    now imagine the prima donna we’re gonna see in rubio..if he ever makes it. hes already bad

  • BK Chris

    I can’t blame rudy for wanting out. I don’t think its a PT issue with him. I think he’s just unhappy with the way he’s utilized in Mcmillans system. He’s just there as a spot up three point shooter, where he feels he would be more effective as a playmaker. he knows which ever team that would try to trade for him would allow him to showcase his full arsenal of skills.
    Second of all, if the Knicks offered up wilson chandler (though not an all-star, but a pretty decent player who is stil developing) for rudy, why not take it? They obviously know that rudy is no bum and aren’t trying to give him up for nothing so he can shine in D’antoni’s system and they end up looking like fools for trading him for a guy who’s not going to see many minutes behind a healthy roy,batum, and matthews.

  • Str8in It Out

    @BKChris, cosign your whole post. I’m a NYK Knick tho I hate to admit it cuz I watched the Ewing era. That Wilson Chandler offer is a pretty good one for both teams. Chandler is a Nate McMillan type player (Defensive and will hit the occasional shot if open) and Rudy is a D’Antoni one (ballhandler, passer, creative, no D). @Dacre, cosign ur comments tho I think ur wasting ur keystrokes. Some of these kids will never get it. They not trying to see it from anybody else’s perspective but their own. Kiddies need to play in the sandbox til they ready to run with the big boys.

  • T-Money

    Dacre: where is he walking to? He can’t play for Barcelona unless Portland releases him (or his contract ends) the same way Rubio can’t play for Minny until Barça releases him (in exchange of a buy out) or Rubio’s contract ends. Him playing for Barcelona next year without the consent of the Blazers is as likely as him just walking and playing for the Lakers.

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