Wednesday, August 11th, 2010 at 1:17 pm  |  47 responses

Four-Way Trade in the Works?

Chad Ford of ESPN has the details: “Breaking: Hornets, Rockets, Pacers & Nets working on 4 team deal. Ariza to NO. C. Lee to HOU. Collison & Posey to IND. Murphy to NJ.”

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  • Overtime

    Guess Chris Paul wont be going anywhere then? If they’re getting rid of Collison?
    Don’t know why Houston would pull this trade though?

  • funkdoc

    So Paul gets Ariza. Wow, that will make him stay… Next year: Melo, Paul and Amare in NY.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Poor Collison.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    I don’t see the benefit of this for NOH.

  • http://www.twitter.com/gerardhimself Gerard Himself

    jumpman: you don’t? Ariza is pretty good, and the Hornets have been weak at the SF spot for a couple of seasons now. This is one of the few times that all teams in a multiple-team deal won’t get screwed, to put it bluntly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Houston is probably the only team losing out.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Really no? Give up best young pg in the league for ariza? Dumb

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    This happens and Indiana is a playoff team. Seriously.

  • The D Train

    Why would Houston do this deal? Doesn’t Courtney Lee play the same spot as Kevin Martin? Not sure why they’d trade their starting SF for a backup SG unless it’s to save some bills. Or maybe I’m completely misinformed about Houston’s lineup.

  • Nate

    That would be a TERRIBLE deal for the hornets.. ariza is so overrated and not worth trading for in exchange for someone as promising and solid as collison

    ariza takes way too many bad shots (shoots 39%) and barely scores 15ppg and honestly is a glorified role player IMO with a role bigger than his talent warrants

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    If this happens, Pacers lose their starting PF, does that mean Granger could be moved to PF and start George at SF?

  • RockManX

    Collison will probably start and play a lot of minutes for the Pacers so that’s good for him.

    I still don’t see any benefit in this trade either for NO (they’ll most certainly lose CP3 later this year or next one) or for HOU. Lee ain’t a bad player but I’d rather keep Ariza on the wing, given that Houston has Kevin Martin and Budinger to play SG and neither of them seems like a good fit for the wing.

  • Coney Islander

    Good moves.

  • george w. buckets

    i think C Lee going to the rockets is a good look for Houston… that nets backcourt was very deep and now the rockets get a real good spot up shooter helping out the Yao and the rest of the big men down low

  • RV

    Salary dump for houston….they’ll save 10 mill this year and like 25 mill over the course of a few years…still get a solid Sg in Lee, and balances out their roster perfectly, as they didnt have a solid back up for Martin, and now they have a solid starter and back up at every spot.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Ariza is better than Peja and Posey, but his ceiling ain’t like Collison’s. This might be the first good trade Larry Bird has made in years.

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  • Migs

    I guess NO doesn’t need a PG on their team? I highly doubt trading for Ariza would be enough to entice CP3 to stay.

  • http://chugachugachugachuchu.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Collison-Stephenson-Granger-Dunleavy-Hibbert. Give it a couple of years and it could be .500

  • http://onemoreandigottago.blogspot.com Zak_Knutson13

    NO loses big. Ariza won’t satisfy Paul. Houston downgrades player-wise but saves a bunch of money. Looks good for IND and NJ.

  • Overtime

    Anyone else get the feeling these are a bunch of teams that are just looking to do something to appease the fan base?
    Houston actually had a busy off season, but only through re-signing, which alot of fans dont appreciate.
    Indiana is the only team that would improve because of this trade


    Bird and the Pacers are going to come away the clear-cut winners from this potential trade. BOOK IT!

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    Collison was getting his feet super wet in the NO. Wouldn’t he start in IND though? There point guard spot is kind of iffy right about now. Ariza just keeps going and going.

  • Stillballin

    Nets is the winner on this trade!!

  • Roberto

    With the way Indiana is trying to save money and still get talent im suprised they havent tried to force T.J. or Dunleavy in those trades.

  • kundai

    the have a rising point guard and the best point guard in teh league it is pretty messed up to deal with. especially because paul might leave. i dont know they should get something more assuring then ariza in case paul leave which is like 80% lol

  • T-Money

    E: You’re kidding? This is fantastic for Collison. They’re giving him the keys and letting him run with it. Allen: Not sure if it’s that good of a trade for ANY of these teams. They don’t have much down low without Murphy.

  • Migs

    In unrelated news, the Hornets also traded Julian Wright to the Raptors for Marco Belinelli.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    It’s done.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    BETCATS: give it a couple years and they could be top 4 in the East.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    New Orleans was foolish for not trading CP3 instead though. Collison’s cheaper for the time being and they could got something much better in return.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Migs are you serious or you just joking? I haven’t seen any news on that…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Murphy is overrated. Hibbert is playing better, and with a real point guard (what the hell happened to TJ Ford?) Granger, Hibbert and Rush should see improvement in their games. True, they don’t have a serious four, but that’s easier to find than a great point. And Collison appears to have the tools to be great.

  • Will

    I think a lot of people here are overvaluing Collison here. I like this move for the Hornets. Collison is certainly a good PG but if they are going to try to entice CP3 to stay, they need to get rid of dead weight and crap contracts – and believe me guys, James Posey is that. People are forgetting that part of the deal. Plus, Ariza is an excellent wing player to play with Paul and a pretty good upgrade from the Peja-Posey-Peterson triad of doom they’ve had the last few years. Will this backfire in the long run? Yeah, maybe if they can’t find a solid back-up for CP3 if he leaves (not automatic like some idiots think). But for right now, they need to make moves and you have to get rid of something to get something.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    nvm migs. Just found some news about it searching through google. don’t know what I think about that trade though. At least Beli could shoot, haven’t seen Julian Wright do anything since he been in the league…

  • Migs

    @niQ… seeing how the Chandler and Barnes deals broke down last minute, it’s hard to say that a Raptors deal is official until the NBA has put their stamp on it… but those are the rumours I’m seeing. Good trade for both players, since Belli wouldn’t be getting much playing time with the arrival of Barbosa, and Wright wouldn’t get any burn with Ariza on the roster.

  • bails1

    houston wants battier starting at the three and a young wing player/defender coming off the bench in lee. i think every team gets something they need.

  • Thor

    Indiana Is Cookin’ for next year…!

  • bnets

    Yes Nets great deal. A starting PF who has an expiring contract. Great move

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’m having this argument with a Hornets fan right now.
    The Hornets made the smart move in packaging Collison with a bad contract to get a veteran.
    But they got the wrong veteran. I think Collison was worth more than Ariza, and essentially the Hornets traded Posey’s contract for Ariza’s contract and gave up Collison for hte right to do that.
    I think they lost in that deal. Ariza is not the player to put them over the top, or even convince Paul that they are one piece away. He’s just not. I think they could have gotten more for Collison considering the position he plays and the changes in the league rules.

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  • T-Money

    Allen: I’m not excited about Ariza at all but DC is an unproven commodity in this league, he just had a good run. Remember when Ramon Sessions was dishing 15+ assists a game a couple of years ago when he got to the L? Me neither. I’m not saying DC will fail but it is premature to believe that he can get like 15 and 8 off the bat. / Everybody knew they had no use for DC (behing CP3, he’s a 10 mpg player) so I’m guessing other GMs tried to lowball NOH.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think NO tried to appease Paul, and I don’t think it’s going to work.

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  • dsleepy

    this trade only works for the pacers. hornets should’ve gotten more for collison. c.lee is a good player, but not necessary when you have k-mart. nets gave up a good young player for a big who will most likely leave via free agency a year from now. if the pacers get a post-player, they can be dangerous in a year or two

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