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Monday, August 9th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  204 responses

JVG: Miami Heat Will Break Chicago Bulls’ Wins Record

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Every few years, a great team gets put together, and people get understandably excited about said team’s potential. And then, inevitably, those same people go a little too far with their excitement, and begin to predict immortality for that squad.

Last season, the Celtics’ newest employee went overboard with the prediction game. This year, it’s the Miami Heat’s turn to face what some (read: yours truly) would consider wholly unrealistic expectations.

Here’s Jeff Van Gundy saying the type of stuff that you just know has Michael Jordan and a host of former greats ready to come out of retirement again, and do something absolutely horrible to him.

From the Miami Herald:

The Heat not only will be great, but historically great. So predicts the co-lead NBA analyst for ABC/ESPN.

“They will break the single-season win record [of 72],” Jeff Van Gundy said. “And I think they have a legit shot at the Lakers’ 33-game [winning] streak [in 1971-72], as well. And only the Lakers have even a remote shot at beating them in a playoff series. They will never lose two games in a row this year.”

“They have put together a much better roster than anybody could ever have expected,” Van Gundy added. “There is now no good way to defend them. They are unguardable. They are indefensible. They are just too good and have added so much shooting and are so versatile that they will score at will. And with Erik Spoelstra coaching, they will be in the top three defensive teams in the league, as well. The other 29 teams better hope the lockout gets moved up a year.”

“Team John Dillinger” had better be ready to live up to the hype. For it will be unrelenting.

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  • Greg

    1st

  • drosefan13

    If they don’t play defense consistently, they will lose to the Magic and Celtics. Can’t agree with Jeff on this one. Better not let their ego get too huge. Lakers, Magic and Celtics are not afraid of this team.

  • Greg

    JVG sucks

  • James

    Maybe they will, LeBron led his team to 60 wins and Dwyane Wade led his team to 40-50 some wins, so together they should dominate.

  • vuk

    JVG is a mad man, hes known for making hype comments so this doesnt surprise me one bit

    as for all this nonesense, if they break all these records then that must mean the lakers will go undefeated this season and set a new 82 win streak record

    i cant wait for the season to start so this overhyped team gets put in their place by the ACTUAL top TEAMS in the L (ie LAL,OKC,BOS,ORL,CHI and even DAL)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    67 sounds legit.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    JVG must be doing bong hits in South Beach.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    First year on? No way. Maybe next year we can talk. Let’s get chemistry and coaching out of the way first.

  • logues

    idk, id say they maybe could get 70 but i agree with jukai not in the first yr

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    JVG has a history of outlandish statements that should be ignored. Add this one to the pile next to his NBA rule changes suggestions.

  • http://thosefishtacosarethetits.blogspot.com Th3_R3al_Chris

    It’s still a team of two Alpha Dogs and not much else. Chris Bosh is NOT a “role player,” but he’s far from a “Franchise” or “Superstar” player. He has an above average offensive game with a below average defensive one, and Dwyane Wade and Lebron have never been known for their defense, unless you consider the “All-NBA” teams an accurate depiction of where a player’s game is, and I don’t. This team has NO defensive stopper and they are not built all that tough. They have, on paper, an incredible offensive team with the three All-Stars, shooters in Mike Miller and Eddie House, and a hustle guy like Udonis Haslem. Am I forgetting anybody, though? Kevin Garnett is not well over a year removed from surgery. Boston and Orlando are still the top-2 teams in the East and Chicago is a much better comparison to Miami than the past three Eastern Conference Champions.

    Miami is a hype machine, and I’m not buying it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Anyone that says the Heat are a hype machine has no merit in a basketball conversation.

  • Ali

    WOW! JVG is on his shi* again… Where is Dennis Green when we need him, Hahaha…”The Heat is who we thought they we’re…,but we let em of the hook! now if you wanna crown em dammit!, go on and crown em, Hahaha….
    As the Brand Nubians said in 1991, SLOW DOWN!

  • Kundai

    i think they get can get close to 70 wins probably 68. you cant say 70 is far off look at the teams that have come so close since 2005. the lakers, celtics, dallas, cleveland. But again i agree with jukai not in the first year.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    JVG missed his calling, he should have been a stand-up comedian.

  • http://www.threadsandkicks.com.au Eduardo

    I think they will get close to 70. Do remember though that the Bulls team did also have 3 All-Defensive team players and a pretty good defender in Ron Harper. LeBron is by far the best defender in this Heat team that is stacked with Offensive firepower. The Cav’s in 09 with just LeBron managed 66 wins.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    73 is a tall order.

  • The Philosopher

    I can go with it.
    It is not impossible for The Heat to do it.
    Not impossible at all.
    I can’t wait for the season to start.
    So much money to be made.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Lebron the best defender??? Running down people for blocks does not make you a great defender.

  • hammer

    60+ wins definitely. Possibly 69. Don’t c them getting the 73 needed 2 break my bulls record.

  • Squirrel7

    Surely until the newest ‘big 3′ have played together, Miami are in fact nothing but a hype machine. Don’t get me wrong, I think the Celtics are the only team who would stop them getting out of the East, but until the season starts it’s all hype and conjecture. I seem to recall people saying the Lakers with Shaq, Kobe, Malone & The Glove would sweep all before them, how did that go? Who says Wade and Bron will co-exist over an 82 game season? Who says Bosh or Wade, both players with injury histories, won’t go down early and miss the entire year?

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Kap: C’mon buddy, Lebron is a good all-around defender. Not exactly lockdown, he tends to bite on fakes and gamble a tad on steals, but give Lebron credit for what he does: he plays off his man and uses his length, smarts, and strength to really take away the offense player’s driving range.
    Lebron also uses his ludicrous leaping ability to jump out and still contest a shot. This is why he tends to bite on fakes: he’s far away from his defender so he needs to leap at them and that usually means fouling if he’s caught in the air.
    Still, the way he plays defense is incredibly effective. First team? Fringe. I think that’s a bit much. But give him credit: he hawks the passing lanes, can really mess with a player on an iso, constantly shouts defensive commands, and scares the crap out of people going for easy layups.
    He’s a great defender. Second team at the very least.

  • Ali Duyar

    JVG is %100 right.Lebron,Bosh and Wade hungry so much,they want to eat everyrecords,everygames.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I just think that Wade is the best defender on that team because I have seem him give Kobe fits on defense along with other upper echelon players in the league. I just don’t think we saw his entire potential on the defensive end last year because that roster was so weak and he had to exert so much energy on the offensive end.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Kap: Hey, I think Wade’s a great defender too. I think Wade is worse manning up against guys with better ball handling, but a better help defender than Lebron is (better timing on steals, he blocks more shots front on, etc. etc.)
    So yeah. haha, not sure what yer trying to say here.

  • Squirrel7

    I’d agree with Kap, I think Wade is a better defender. Everything LeBron does, both on the offensive and defensive end, is based primarily on his insane athletic ability (speed, strength, size, etc), whereas Wade has to use his smarts more, which in my personal opinion makes him a better defender. It’s for similar reasons I consider Battier a far better defender than Dwight (though obviously they play different positions and therefore their roles are different).

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I’m just saying I think Lebron’s defense is overrated…I’d take Josh Smith’s defense over Lebron’s.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Maybe JVG was just trying to jinx them…

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    Anyone else kinda get the feeling Jeff is just screwing with all of us? Sarcasm does not translate well on print after all.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Kap: I think they’re about even. Opinion, I guess. I wouldn’t kill you for saying you’d take Smith over Lebron.

  • Ali

    @ melvin ely…JVG and SLAM! Hahaha…

  • Kundai

    @squirrel7 – i dont think we can say everything lebron does offensive and defensive is because he is althletic. I think he has more than proved he can shoot it may not be like kobe bryant or carmelo. but he can shoot, also take into account of other crazy athletic guys who are almost equivalent to lebron athletism if we say that its becasue hes althletic those other guy should be getting the same numbers no? i.e. josh smith. But i do agree wade is the best defender on ball but lebron better help defender.

  • http://Www.lkj.no Darksaber

    I’m pretty sure Jeff is still recovering from his brain rattling around in his skull as he was dragged around while hanging on to Zo’s calf back in the day. C’mon, Spoelstra’s gone if these guys don’t start with a 12-0 record (at least)

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @Kundai…Josh Smith does put up better numbers than Lebron except for points and assists. He avgs more blocks, steals, and rebounds.

  • Ali

    @ Darksaber… I’m cracking up laughing over that one still to this day, WTF was he thinking, Hahaha….

  • The D Train

    If they don’t come out some nights and just laugh and take it lightly, yeah, 60+ should be money. With the roster Riles has put together, I wouldn’t be shocked at 70+, but the simple fact is, that means they could only lose 12 or less games in the entire season. That’s totally nutso. Could be done, if they mean business every single night, though.

  • Kundai

    @kap only blocks and rebounds steals are the same at 1.6pg. but my point is that lebrons game may be athletic but you cannot say the sole reason can do the things he does is because he is athletic. because he does have skills and smarts for the game.

  • The D Train

    And if JVG wasn’t pulling everyone’s chain: I’d say no go on the 33 game win streak. Too many variables. That record is probably never going to be touched.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Kundai: uh, I disagree. Haha.

  • http://slamonline.com Anjoe Intal

    JVG sucks for his comments. In my opinion, The miami has the best TRIO but they dont have the best TEAM. Healthy Celtics can even beat them when playoffs comes.

    Lakers 3peat!! Take that to the bank!.
    We still have the best player in the planet baby!

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    62 wins. But Bosh gets injured.

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    co-sign dtrain. That ’96 Bulls team (and by that I mean MJ) came into the season with a HUGE chip on their shoulders. Not sure if this heat squad can come as hard as the Bulls did. They got together to “win championships” after all; regular season win-records aren’t high up on their list I think.

  • Squirrel7

    I’m not saying that EVERYTHING that James does is because of his athleticism, I was stating that it plays a huge part in most of it. I know that over the last few years his shot has improved a lot, but you can’t deny his physical gifts are a major factor, considering there’s very few players who guard him that are as big as him (in terms of build and height), so the ability to shoot over practically anyone is a huge advantage. I’m certainly no Kobe fan-boy, but he has the skills to create a bit of space to get off a shot against a taller defender, whereas due to James’ size, he just shoots over the top of his man.

  • Ali

    There is now no good way to defend them. They are unguardable. They are indefensible. C’mon Son! getdaf***outtaherewitdatbullshi* man… 33 wins in a row! 70 win! Have ya’ll be watching the association over the past 5, 10, 15, 20 years…Do ya’ll see how hard it is to get to 60+ wins! Do ya’ll see how hard it is to win a title.

  • Ali

    THIS AIN’T UCONN Women Basketball fellaz! Not to take any shots at UCONN or Women but come on now!

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    LMAO @ Ali…I could not say it any better. But to my other point; what separates Lebron from everyone else is his athletic ability combined with his passing ability. However, I think he tries pretty hard every night to pack the stats.

  • Squirrel7

    Double-coverage where possible on Lebron & Wade, a decent defender on Bosh, which leaves Miami relying on players like Chalmers (inconsistent), House (streaky as hell), and Mike Miller (who people seem to suddenly think is much better than he actually is). Personally, I don’t think the rest of Miami’s cast is THAT impressive, better than was originally expected, but overall still nowhere near as deep as the Lakers, Celtics, and maybe the Magic at a push.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I can’t stop laughing @ Ali’s post @ 11:14

  • flash

    on JVG’s mind: “it’s freakin LEBRON JAMES and DWYANE WADE on the same team! nuff said”.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Ali is speakin’ the truth. Word.

  • Squirrel7

    Incidentally, the big complaint with Lebron’s Cavs was that due to poor interior players (hence signing Shaq), they would get dominated by Dwight and the Magic, or Garnett & the Celtics, so why is everyone overlooking the fact that they are relying on Joel Anthony who has minimal offensive game, and Big Z who at this point in time moves slower than my grandmother. It doesn’t matter how good your perimeter players are, if you’re just going to be torn a new one on the inside. Even with a practically non-existent offensive skill set, Dwight could go off for 30 against the Heat’s big-men, without much difficulty.

  • Squirrel7

    Oh yeah, and one of those inadequate interior players for the Cavs…… Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Thank god Miami won’t have that problem…oh, wait……

  • JTaylor21

    @Th3_R3al_Chris; of course you claim that bron/wade’s first-team defensive selections are overrated but with kobe you swear that he really deserves all those first-team D selections. Do you know that kobe has more first team D selections than Pippen; talk about being highly overrated/overhyped on D. Everyone and their grandma knows that kobe isn’t even in the same building as Pip when it comes to D. Plus don’t underestimate CB’s offense; his jumpshot is close to STATs and he’s a better rebounder/defender than amare. I would rather have him than amare anyday.

  • http://aspov.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Here we go…

  • JTaylor21

    @Squirrel7, come on son. Did the bulls have any imposing big guys when they won all those chip, NO. You don’t need a great post defender especially against DHow as long as your perimeter D plays great D which bron/wade/chalmers are more than capable of. DHow does not have the kind of game where he can kill you night in and night out being single covered. As long as you guard the three point line at all costs, the magic will not beat you. That was the problem in the ECF last year. Cle allowed Dhow to kill them inside and also let the magic bomb away freely from three. You have gots to take one away or you have no chance.

  • Kundai

    @ali lmao thats too funny

  • The Philosopher

    Cosign Cheryl.

  • Kundai

    and Jtaylor21 i second you on everything you just said

  • Ali

    They will never lose two games in a row this year! JVG is on that Eastside LBC OOHHWEEE Snoop be smokin’
    Me and the fellaz in the office can’t stop laughing bout this shi*…Do ya’ll remember the year Mike and Co. went for 70+. Mike and Phil had that entire team in a zone never seen before. THE ENTIRE TEAM man! It takes a TEAM!!!!!! No I in Team, remember that fellaz…Hahaha…Let me stop….Some of ya’ll just don’t get it. Stay up everybody! ONE…

  • Kundai

    Boston is the biggest threat in the east for the heat then bulls, then orlando. boston overall inside size is the main issue.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Ali’s posts just made my Monday morning much more bearable.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    It’s too early in the week for the Kobe bashing Jtaylor21

  • JTaylor21

    It is not bashing when I’m clearing stating the facts maybe some of yall can’t handle the truth like Lt. Kaffe. When there are facts that need to be stated, I will also state them whether people like them or not, it’s just in me to do so. Too many lies and non-facts are always being spewed on this site about different players and I will always try to set them straight.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Even the 1995-96 Bulls would be hard pressed to win 72 games with the way the game is called now and how much flopping is rewarded.

  • The Philosopher

    To The Masses:
    The greatest enemy of any of our truths may be the rest of our truths.
    (William James)

  • Ed LOmax

    Lebron lead the muthaf**ckin CAVS, to 60 plus wins two years in a row. Now switch Mo “Choke” Williams with D MUTHF**CKING Wade, Flop Anderson with Chris 20 and 10 Bosh, Big Z with, well Big Z and, well I think I’ve made my point. The Magic don’t have the heart (see VC, Rashard and Smilin’ Dwight and subtract Matt “Eff you Kobe” Barnes) or the coach to go any further than they’ve already gone and the Celtics just signed a 300 plus pound liability, lost their second best post defender and 3rd best outside shooter (Sheed) and basically got another years worth of wear and tear on their freakin rickety knees. IMHO I think health permiting the Heat will EASILY win 60 plus games, threaten Da Bulls record and piss all over the Lakers in the Finals. PEACE.

  • http://kb24.com DreXnaW21

    Lakers > Heat
    Kobe > Wade
    LeBron > Ron Artest (k this is true lol)
    Pau Gasol > Bosh

    to make a long story short, Lakers are still better than Heat

  • Squirrel7

    I’m not disputing the Bulls didn’t have a dominant center back in the day, but Miami don’t have an absolute rebounding monster like Dennis Rodman. And to compare today’s Heat to the 90s Bulls is completely redundant anyway, the game has evolved and is called differently. Plus, whether you need a dominating inside presence is dependent upon who you’re aiming to beat. How exactly is a PF/C combo of any 2 of Bosh, Haslem, Ilgauskas or Anthony going to deal with a combo of Bynum, Gasol or Odom, or Garnett, Shaq, Davis, O’Neal (both), and Perkins?!

  • 23-DOOM-50

    how many times did we hear this last year? The Celtics, Cavs AND Lakers were all saying that BS

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Can the school year start already?

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    KG and Shaq are going to terrorize RuPaul in the opener. Book it.

  • vanillagorrila

    I rly don’t think boston has it in em to go deep again this year, they just keep aging and picking up more injury prone vets. If any one of Pierce,Garnett,Rondo,Allen misses the playoffs due to injury its a first round out. I’d be much more worried about Orlando and Chicago if I was Spol.

  • michael

    73 will be tough of course, but anyone who doesnt think this team is capable of 65 wins is deluded, that is winnign 4 out of 5, and it is hard to imagine they drop 20% of their games. Have you seen most of the teams in this league? They have the best 3 in the league, arguably the best 2 (yes laker fans i know – kobe is 1, but wade is 1a) and a top 3 PF. ON THE SAME TEAM. They will win 60 games on cruise control, its up to how hard they want it to push for 70. I am not sure 72-10 can be topped but to deny the possibility because you hate Lebron/wade/bosh/miami/the hype is ridiculous and short sighted.. also, the lakers could challenge the record this year for pretty much all the same reasons

  • Coney Islander

    If offense was the only thing needed to win ball games the Suns and Golden State would have been splitting Championships for the past 12 years.

  • Kundai

    boston healthy is a problem as soon as they lose one of those post players they cut the depth in half because shaq with a bunhc of minutes is useless he needs his rest and rotaions if he plays alot he becomes lazy. but together they can make noise maybe 1 lasttime. bulls to me would be the issue. Drose is nice

  • http://www.slamonline.com JL

    they can win more than 72… and maybe next year, remember when boston won a whole lot their first year together too. it’s very doable with 3 high bball IQ stars and loads of knowledgable vets. Which they have, in abundance!

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @ Michael…With your same logic the Lakers should win on 60+ on cruise control also. They have the best 2 guard, a top 3 PF, and a top 3 Center plus probaly the deepest bench, one of the most clutch players in DFish, and 3 top notch perimeter defenders.

  • http://kibogami@rocketmail.com kibogami

    JVG is an ankle biter

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    People mad at Van Gundy’s prediction because it doesn’t align with their own predictions.
    Question, didn’t the Boston Celtics win 66 games their first year together in 2007-2008. So, what we’re saying is that it’s completly ridiculous to consider that the Heat might be seven games better than those Celtics, right?
    Do y’all even watch the games, or just skim through them?

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    If there are no major injuries or anything like that, I actually came up with the same prediction as Eboy of 67 wins. Let’s all bear in mind that this is six games better than the Cleveland Cavaliers. However, they might win less than this is if in late April, they’re no longer chasing the record of 72. In this case, Wade, Bosh and LeBron will probably be resting for the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oh, and we need a story on Obama staging a hoops game over the weekend with NBA stars and legends for the troops.

  • fseefesf

    erster ! jaaaa mannn

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    (Charlie Murphy) “Wrong! Wrong!” This is obviously going to be a tough team to beat, but its far tougher for them to maintain an all time level of consistency. The season is too long and there are too many possible pitfalls to say that they wont lose back to back games all year. Even the 96 Bulls lost back to back games. Furthermore, weve seen plenty of examples in every sport of teams burning themselves out for the playoffs by putting too much emphasis on the regular season. Lets just play some games first please.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    67 sounds about right, I could even see 69, maybe even 70 (maybe not this year, but sometime during the next six years or however long this trio stays together). But 73? Not happening.

  • Jackie Moon

    It will help the regular season a lot to have a real race for the best record. I know the Lakers will be pushing like mad to ensure HCA.

  • Kobe>lebronwadebosh

    Can’t wait to see the heat FAIL this season
    A healthy Boston team will beat em in the playoffs and I’ve yet to mention my lakers

  • JStar

    I honestly think JVG could be one of the dumbest humans on the planet….

  • Jose

    60 seems like a lock fir MIA. I honestly had some questions on how good they will be, but i took a good look at the MIA roster from last yr and it’s basically the same supporting cast or if not an improvement from a player we had. even looking at CLE roster, it’s up to par w/ what they had last year so 60 is solid but 70 will be a challenge as always

  • http://dez@nba.com dez

    if. healthy.

  • Kundai

    they will win 67 like the mavs that year they lost to gstate. but they should go trying for this record just play to win and let the cards fall

  • total scrotal implosion

    Lal fans are delusional and funny

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    73 is very possible – but not likely. If the Heat stay healthy and ‘hungry’ the entire season, then 73 is in reach. I just don’t see them staying hungry enough to really push the 73 win mark. This team is thinking about rings, not regular season wins. They will do whatever needed to secure the #1 seed, but that won’t require 73 wins.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’ve said this for a month now….Lebron, Wade and Bosh are all nice guys. No one is a true killer, rip your heart out guy like Mike was. Dwyane has it in him, but it isn’t “on” every game for him. Lebron has it too, but he has only displayed it a handful of times. Without that type of guy on the roster…it’s going to be hard to reach this type of lofty goal (72 wins). The difference is, these three guys talent levels will allow them to make up for that “killer instinct” that may be slightly lacking and push them to great numbers (as a team and individually) because of it.

  • Yesse

    I think it’s possible, but i don’t expect it to happen.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh, and Lakerfanboys, the great Bull teams that three-peated (twice) went DOWN in regular season wins each season, not up as some of you mangina’s claimed they will this season. That was a usual calling card for Phil to give more rest to his guys as each season passed. I think this season you will see much reduced minutes for Pau and Kobe and with that, a reduced win total for the Lakers (slightly)with the potential of a Heat Finals matchup and those guys needing to be fresher than before for that type of matchup for an older Laker roster.

  • Stillballin

    I agree with Jeff.. Go heat!

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    I’m just going to say this, the Lakers will win the championship again. The Heat looking good, but I have a weird feeling they won’t come out of the East.

  • http://deleted KH10

    ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!! doesn’t mean it will happen.

  • T-Money

    DP: “weird feeling” aka “wishful thinkin”, yeah?

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    haha eboy. personally, i don’t want the school year to start, cause commuting to work in bay area traffic is gonna suck even more. but i’m with you, ~67 wins is very feasible, provided health isnt a concern (bosh and wade)

  • monkeyball

    It’s definitely possible the HMS Heat will win 70+ games. Just extremely unlikely.
    \Possible because, after all, the 95-96 Bulls were a two-man team with a so-so supporting cast. They hjust had everything going for them: Mike and Scottie, of course, a very weak League overall, no major injuries. I think the L is definitely stronger now than in the mid-90′s.
    I would bet on the HMS having a very good year, but not a historic year (at loeast in the reg season).

  • Kundai

    david.. its very true im a lebron fan and my concert still is wade and his health. both isnt as bad he will play 75 games a year average. but wade is 29 in march not getting any younger and it just has me nervous. if they stay healthy we are in good grace but if not bosh and lebron without wade is on the same level as lakers, boston, magic and bulls and we dotn want that.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    its possible.. very possible.. for sure with in reach

  • Cool Dude

    I’m definitely not a fan of the heat, but I see 69 wins or 65. 69 if they go at it every game for a whole season, and 65 if they already know they locked up top seed.

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    @T-money you are probably right. I just hate the Heat for no particular reason. I’m just biased because I’m a laker guy. Heat SHOULD win it, but my allegiance to LA will not let me accept this.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    The B Team will get hit by injuries and Lebron will blame it on his elbow, D wade on his continuing problems with his ex wife and Bosh about his child support payments. LePippen, The Ashe and Rupaul is ready to win 59 games and get knocked out by Orlando is the second round of the playoffs.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Two guys who love a team led by a rapist who also cheated on his wife, admitted it publicly and cried like a bit*h on national tv in apology to her dumb ass and THEN bought a 5 million dollar ring to keep her around are stating for FACT that the Heat can’t even get to a Finals appearance should be held to the highest standard of basketball knowledge. Can the Lakers and their fans just die. Seriously.

  • Mr. Robinson

    Well, Laker boys/girlz, looks like Eboy is about to get in you all’s asses.
    HA!!!

  • truthteller

    Eboy: Wow! You were doing fine until you had to bring up Kobe being a rapist, adulterer…you know what you said. That’s pretty hypocritcal, stupid and really has nothing to do with basketball at all. i think you should banish yourself from serious basketball conversations for a while because that right there was really stupid and unneccasry- even from you!

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    Rapist….we off that. Is that the best you can come up with? Meh whatever. We will see what’s cracking when the season starts.

  • truthteller

    @Eboy: and please don’t tell me that the lakers fans are getting to you already? The season hasn’t even started! You do what you’re doing with the Heat and let the Lakers do what they’ve been doing. You can hang, right?

  • truthteller

    @ Mr Robinson: Thanks for the heads up! I’m sure Eboy must pay you really well for being his cheerleader, right?

  • Mr. Robinson

    I guess I’ll take a shot too. Why not?
    True that many of y’all Laker cats are all haters anyway.
    got nerve to judgfe and criticise everything else but give Kobe’s punk ass a free pass.
    “OH WAIT, THIS IS ABOUT BASKETBALL, GUYS! DAMN!”
    “NOT ABOUT HIM RAPING PEOPLE”! give me a break. hypocrites.

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    I want to say that if laker cats are haters than what does that make you? I’m pretty sure you hate on Kobe every chance you get. You can’t deny the boy can ball, so you go to bashing him about some sh*t that went down years ago and is not even relevant anymore. November can’t come soon enough.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Ebay
    You need some new material on Kobe, the rapist stuff and he bought his wife a 5 million dollar ring worked when the Lakers were not BACK 2 BACK Champions. Lets call Kobe the 2 time Finals MVP who is not scared to take the HEAT of leading a team to a title with out FLASHING to other cities with STARS to be a superstar SIDEKICK.

  • WangChung

    Co-sign Eboy at 12:29

  • WangChung

    On second thought, these young kids now all have blackberries and what-have-you gizmos.

  • Mr. Robinson

    truthteller:
    i done seen you get clowned up here too many times already anyway……..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    DP, I’ll respond to you only….read your boy the Seed’s 3:41p comment and then try to figure out why I wrote WHAT I wrote. I know you’re still getting your education on, so I won’t be mad at you if you can’t figure it out.

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    Someone put homeboy on suicide watch if the Heat don’t bring home the trophy in June.

  • Mr. Robinson

    DP:
    I aint tryin to hate on his punk @ss, but y’all act like dude is original.
    he a fake, wannabe jordan who aint even got his own style. How da hell you wanna be somebody else? Do YOU wanna be somebody else?
    naw wait… he rap so I GUess its Iverson.
    kobe aint real. THEN he dress up like some ol’ bullsh1t at the photo shoot. WTF?!?
    Well, I guess THAT was original. HA!
    my bad.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    DP, I’ve never screamed out (or typed) that the Heat were winning chips every year from now until 2018. I’m not ignorant like Laker fans. Get your mind right.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    I’m not a Kobe fan, but I gotta admit that that was a damn hard reach Eboy. It i’snt like you to not mention anything basketball related in your rants.

  • WangChung

    @DP: If Eboy truly was the suicidal type, he would’ve had opportunities galore to off himself considering how long he’s been following the Heat.

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    Okay, Ebizzle. I understand. You know it’s nothing but love from my side of town. But that doesn’t change the fact that I hate the Heat and you loathe the Lakers with a passion. I respect that. I’m just ready for this season to begin now. This will be one of the most interesting seasons in a LONGG time.

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    @Mr.Robinson it’s cool. You like who you like and you hate who you hate.

  • Mr. Robinson

    Talk about class.
    Kobe cussin’ out some old girl for doin’ her job at his house. THAT DUDE.
    YOUR DUDE. KOBE. Cussin’ out the girl for cleaning dog sh!t out of his house. I don’t care if it was his wife yellin’ at that maid. THAT REPRESENTS KOBE!!!!!

  • http://thosefishtacosarethetits.blogspot.com Th3_R3al_Chris

    JTaylor21: I’m a Celtics fan. I’m Boston-bred. How did I “defend” Kobe? Because I didn’t mention his name? Please.

    On THAT note, though: If Shaq and Kobe couldn’t break 72-wins, nobody is.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    i wish eboy was on suicidal watch.. getten really tired of reading his crap comments

  • Mr. Robinson

    On the real though, I love Kobe. Always did.
    I’m just bored right now.
    HA!

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    @ Mr. Robinson; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! “I don’t care if it was his wife yelln’ at that maid.” You made my day just now… That was hilarious!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    DP, I know you’ve been down with the Lakers for a bit,so I’m not mad at you. @ Seed, you human amoeba, if “winning two chips” makes all of Kobe’s shi*ty past history magically disappear, will that same stupid theory apply to Lebron if he wins a couple of titles and then his “Decision” special will be looked at with less hate?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    c_cantrell, haven’y YOU died already? Yhy do you come here, btw? To suck on my cybernuts every chance you get? Thought so.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Funny that Kobe is forever branded as a rapist even though he never went to trial. By that logic, Dwyane Wade is not only an adulterer, he gave his wife herpes and did his mistress in front of his kids. Of course LeBron could never cheat on his wife, because he refuses to marry her. At least hell save money on a ring. But lets give credit where its due. Theyre all just trying to be like Mike. None of these guys are model citizens, so lets just stick to basketball please.

  • Mr. Robinson

    He Suk on Jukai’s too

  • truthteller

    @Eboy: You really need to relax. It’s not that serious. I’m a Lakers fan and really don’t care if ya’ll like them or not! All I know is that the lakers just seem to always win and that’s what’s really important! You can hate all you want (and that’s probably why you guys hate so much) and that won’t change. Judging from what you’ve been writing, if your Heat were winning as much my lakers win, you would be more annoying than ESPN and all the lebron specials and highlights and endless but kissing!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Eboy
    I agree with your statement. Kobe rings have gotten all that past history fall by the wayside. Heck Kobe caught Tiger and now they share the number one title as sports stars, but Lebron has to win 3 rings in Miami to me to be considered a great sidekick move. Lebron winning one title in Cleveland equals three in Miami. I never stated Kobe past disappears, but you are a smart dude, RINGS MATTER, but “The Decision” special will be with Lebron for the rest of his life. So Lebron better wins some rings and more than two is needed. BOOK IT!!!

  • truthteller

    @Mr Robinson: ??????????

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    Word to Myles. On that note, you guys partner website, counterkicks, needs to have another shoe site besides lacelocked.com. What the hell do I look like paying 600 dollars for some Kobe 1′s I saw at Kohl’s for 15 bucks! Crazy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Like it’s been written before, let’s see what happens in June.

  • http://www.pardonthedopeness.blogspot.com DP

    Honestly, I saw nothing wrong with Lebron’s “The Decision” special.

  • Harrell

    Hey now that all yall found common ground calm The F#ck Down! sh!t can’t let yall have not one civilized conversation involving kobe and LeBron but yall dont worry about that chip Spurs got it on lock!

    XD

  • Mr. Robinson

    truthteller:
    What u mean “???????????????”
    You’ve gotten owned up here. more then once.
    i aint gonna call out no names but… you be gettin’ owned. its cool. nuttin’ wrong wit’ it.

  • http://brimartin13@gmail.com Brion

    Anyone who posts under the name Kobe>lebronwadebosh is too delusional to be taken seriously.

  • truthteller

    @Mr Robinson: I’ve been getting owned, huh? Ok, I’ll let you tell it.

  • Royal

    Can’t wait until the season starts……..

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Y’all need a hobby.

  • http://dez@nba.com dez

    Lebron’s beard is good for at least 5 wins.

  • Cool Dude

    Lebron’s elbow is good for another 89 games.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    The Notorious JVG… ’nuff sed.

  • Scottie Pimpin

    they aint breakin it.

  • mick

    Bulls
    Jordan- GOAT
    Pippen- better game than Wade
    Rodman- Could Defend Anyone. Anyone. Bosh can just score better.
    Kukoc- Blew hot and cold, but better than any role player at miami
    Ron Harper- 6th Man of the year award goes to…
    Luc Longley- Could at least move, unlike Z.
    Kerr=Mike Miller, but was at least tested under pressure.

    beating 72, don’t think so.

  • JTaylor21

    @Mick do your self and family a favor and inhale a tank of cyanide. Pippen has a better game than Wade? where they do that at. Wade is a way better offensive player than pip could ever dream of being and wade can more than hold his own on D. The stupidity and ignorance on this website grows by each passing second.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Wow. JTaylor21, Mr. “F*ck the troops”, wants to talk about stupidty and ignorance on this website.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Eboy, dont forget mr bean snitching on shaq, like that somehow wouldve helped him in his criminal case, what a bird. Innocent people dont payout millions to avoid trial. If youre innocent, let your lawyers handle it. But when you payout millions so it wont go to trial, that makes you look guilty. Why else would someone do that? Anyways, fakers are done getting rings

  • JTaylor21

    @Yeah I said and what. I’m not gonna just foolishly believe that those guys are over there fighting for our “so-called freedom”. Is america being occupied by another country, NO, so what’s all these our freedom is under attack crap. The US didn’t give a sh*t when black people were slaves, what happened to their freedom. I’m not one of those gullible people who believes everything thing the government shows and tells them.

  • hammer

    @eboy 2:26. Its ez 2 4get that the bulls were 1 win shy from having back 2 back 70 win seasons. And that the last year they were 2gether pip missed a big chunk of the 1st half of the regular season

  • Luis

    Bosh never plays a full season, and they would stop playing hard as soon as they get home court advantage. And just about Every athlete now and back then has cheated on their wives for as long as their been sports just right now it is coming out sooner with all the media.

  • hammer

    @mick 6:23. Ur right bout pip having more offense than pip but defense? Cmon man! Pip was a superior defender that wade could EVER imagine 2 b. And if u think about it what player n 2days nba is a better defender than pip ever was? Don’t say lebron! Now pip remember would domin8 games w/out scoring much. 2 put wade,pip and defense n the same sentence is just wrong

  • hammer

    My bad on my last post. What I meant was wade having more offense than pip.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @JTaylor – man I have heard some stupid sh*t in my day but wow. It’s got nothing to do with being “gullible” and believing what the government tells you. It’s about having some damn respect for the people that put their lives on the line just so you can say some stupid sh*t like that. Oh, I guess our freedom wasn’t under attack on 9/11, or when the WTC was bombed the first time in the early 90′s, or the two bomb attempts, the shoe-bobmer and the Times Square bomber. How you gonna bring up slavery? That is just some stupid, second grade sh*t. I’ve had some dear friends lose their lives over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, all so idiots like you can say “f*ck the troops”. Awesome. You keep believing what you want in that fantasy land of yours.

  • Overtime

    On this site, we had some conversations over past few days, best big man in history etc.
    Heat/Lakers come around and it all goes to pot. The amount of people simply looking to argue on here is simply unbelievable.
    Personally, I wish the current Lakers team could be playing the 06 Heat, I would be MUCH more interested in that

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ The Promise

    @JTaylor21: Get off the politics and racial crap, this is a basketball site. If we want to hear that junk, we can watch CNN. And Eboy, In America, you are innocent until proven guilty, and he didn’t get convicted, so get over it. And yes, winning championships does make people forget these athlete’s stupid things they do. Magic cheated on his wife, contracted AIDS, but nobody thinks about that when they think of Magic. They think, “best point guard of all time, and, 5-time NBA champion”. MJ was addicted to gambling, but nobody cares, because he is the best ever. And people look over Kobe’s accusations because all he has accomplished. And getting back to the topic, I don’t see them ever breaking the win record. They will screw around every season waiting for the playoffs because they will be playing the whole regular season trying not to get hurt. Yep, I said it.

  • Overtime

    Cosign the promise

  • CHIEF

    Miami is as hyped up as Piranha 3D.
    However Wade is a winner, much remains to be seen about the other two. I will say that Bosh is a volume shooter and less consistent on the block that people think. It’s a damn shame if they can’t win. Combined I think there is more talent and potential than any other team. Until someone brings out a zone d to stop them defenders have to give these guys way too much space to operate properly. Maybe 55 Jeff maybe. No one has a right to even try to beat 72.

  • T-Money

    Hold on myles, on your argument avout these guys not being model citizens you brought up lebron not being married to savannah? wtf!? Americans are a funny bunch.

  • Tommy

    There is no and i say no chance the heat will going to break the record of the bulls. maybe they will be the top seated team in the eastern conference and maybe they will have the best record overall but they will not defeat the celtics this year. there will be doubts if the celtics can handle the superfriends or orlando but when playofftime arives c’s will not lose to the magic or the heat! remeber this ;)

  • JTaylor21

    @Enigmatic, I’m truly sorry from the bottom of my heart that u lost some dear friends in Iraq and Afghanistan, forgive my harsh words. All I’m saying is that all those incidents that you brought up where orchestrated by small group of people, so I don’t see the need in attack 2 different/innocent countries just in the hopes of killing a couple hundred terrorists. The brits/spaniards and others have all being attacked by terrorists before but none of them overreacted and started two wars. Also the reason I brought up slavery is to remind americans of a time when they were ones doing the enslavement of innocent people, which is one time in us history that people’s freedom were literally and figuratively under attack.

  • Tommy

    sorry i forgot that even if the heat will go to the finals there is still number 24 who will beat them. LBJ has to wait until kobe retires to get his ring!

  • T-Money

    Denial: theres no way that these three guys will take less money to play together and they all want to be together. / anger: what a f-ckin pu–y!! Can believe he did that to cleveland. He’ll never be jordan!! / Bargaining: yeah whatever, they have no bench and no shooters. / depression: they signed mike miller, haslem, big z, eddie house, arroyo and james jones? FML. / acceptance: LeBron James, d-wade and a 24/11 THIRD option are playing together for the next 5 years and theyre going to kill.

  • WangChung

    @T-Money: Spot-on assessment. Personally, I’m in the FML stage.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    I’m going to let you guys in on a secret: Zydrunas Ilgauskas is notorious for being a selfish player with a bad attitude. This may come as a shock to those who haven’t watched the Cavs closely and he’s generally viewed as a nice guy by the media due to him selling DVD’s at a reasonsable price. Beyond that, he complained about not starting over Shaqtus, refused to jump more than half and inch and even demanded a trade to Washington at the deadline. Why do you think he was never in the pre-game photo ritual? That’s right – he wants all the glory for himself.
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas will rip apart this Heat team.

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    H.A.T.E! What a summer u r having!

  • truthteller

    I love how whenever people bring up valid answers in response to EBoy’s comments, he’s no where to be found or he ignores it and makes some more dumb comments. @The Promise: great point

  • Robb

    JVG is funny

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You’re a dummy, truthteller, haven’t you figired that out yet? Damn, you’re stupid!!!! Lmao!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ The Promise

    @truthteller: Yeah, I’ve noticed that too, I mean he overstepped his bounds when he attacked Kobe in a manner that was uncalled for and totally unrelated to what was being dicussed and what this thread is about. I’m not a huge Kobe fan by any means, I do think is arrogant and can be a whinebag, but you must respect the guys game, the numbers don’t lie.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ The Promise

    Watch out, hes came out of hiding. Haha.

  • T-Money

    the promise: who doesn’t respect his game? i know e-boy hates kobe but where has he questioned his ability to play?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ The Promise

    @T-Money: I wasn’t necessarily saying Eboy questioned his ability, I was making a statement, that, if you don’t respect his game, I really doubt your knowledge of basketball, period. What I meant by the earlier post was, Eboy didn’t attack him as a player, but as a person, and there is no call for that.

  • bradley

    Mick you make me laugh, lets not forget about the bulls all time great starting center Luke Longley, I mean I know Miami does not have someone with that elite factor at the big position.

  • JTaylor21

    You guys are funny, you want eboy to respect kobe’s game and numbers but you clowns always downplay bron’s game and numbers. You can’t have your cake and eat it. Also what’s wrong with attacking kobe’s off the court ways; the dude LTed a girl, payed her off for it not to go to trial, falsely accused Malone of hitting on his crazy wife and tried to spill the beans on shaq. You guys pout when someone brings up those issues but turnaround and attack bron on being a douche, bad guy, etc. based on him just picking where he wants to play on tv.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    JTaylor basically answered for me.

  • http://celticknightk3@aol.com Celtic Knight

    I seen somebody said MJ has that killer instinct but Wade and Lebron show some of that in some games. I would really have to agree with that. I would have to bring up Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kobe, Jerry West and Reggie Miller but the top two has to be MJ and Bird because of their clutch shooting close out games was so unmatched. I dare say Lebron and Wade will never come to any of those guys’ killer instinct. Miami will NOT beat Celtics or Lakers because you got to have the bench and the a lot of supporting cast. Defense will win you the chips people… Oh yeah like some people get very stupid to compare the New Heat to the Bulls 96 or Lakers 72 or how about Celtics 86. You look at the Bulls, Lakers and Celtics that I had mentioned they had a monster bench with much better starting 5. If you know how to play chess then you can see how important the pawns are to your backrow army. I think I made my point.

  • bradley

    JT had a good point, Laker fans always seem to want to point the finger one way but not the other. You cant talk about LeBron off the court if your savior is Kobe. LeBron hasnt had to pay any girls off “yet” nor has he dismantled a dynasty. If you give Kobes numbers credit you must give Lebrons credit.
    hahahah im still laughing at mick, i had to get all my friends over here to look at his nonsense. hahah pippen better than wade????? we all thought crack was over? id give you pippen>dirk or pippen> pierce. haaha but please MICK keep this comedy commin your the entertainment for 4 white kids.
    Who in their right mind would rather live in Cleveland than Miami……. enough said

  • Ronald

    It’s not that impossible is it? I mean, according to all Lebron defenders, Lebron single-handedly won 60+ games the last two years. So, Bosh+Wade+Scrubs should give you 10-20 extra wins? I think chemistry is overrated, especially when the team is young and doesn’t rely on pure execution i.e Spurs. However, the coaching IS suspect, but you never know.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Okay I’ve weighed up all the comments – So I’ll increase m prediction for the Heats winning totals for this season to 64. Bosh will still get injured however and Boston will attack them in game one like it’s a finals series.
    I will understand completely if the Heat don’t win the chip this year. You’ll have to wait till June 2011 for the ‘I told you so’. Steve Nash for MVP.

  • Harry

    @Darce

    If LeBron doesn’t average a triple double, it’s going to Kevin Durant

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    73 wins is a lot…

  • flipnoyce

    Seriously Miami aint gonna beat that 72 wins from the bulls. Thats too much hallucination right there. Thats the only team in nba history who won championships without a true center. Prince James n Dwade must learn how to share the ball along with Bosh in order to achieve such goal. Until that day come then nothing is set in stone. Boston might have an older starting core but look at what we have for bench, much younger than Miami’s. So lets just all enjoy the summer and wait for the season to start.Peace!!!

  • Ali

    Fellaz, we really need to just stick to Basketball talk. WE ALL! have skeletons and have done sh*t we’re not proud of. If you haven’t and your walk on water, you haven’t lived! None of us are the all mighty. Damn near EVERY nba baller has done shi* they ain’t proud of and some times have shamed their families, friends and fans. But that’s whats great about the U.S., we make mistakes, learn from them and we bounce back baby, we got that bounce back like no other country! We need to stop with the bashing cause from Jordan to Wilt to Kobe to Magic to Shaq to Dirk to Wade to LeBron to Pippen to Kidd to Barkley to Mullins and the list goes on and on and on…and we don’t even want to touch on the NFL and MLB, WUUUUWEEEE…Let’s stay classy and keep it on the basketball court fellaz!

  • T-Money

    Ronald: I don’t think they’re shooting for 86 wins. Just a hunch.

  • Kundai

    damn alot of hate on this right here. Oh well, as for laker fans. im a lebron fan and i beleive you guys do give kobe the benefit of the doubt. Dang lebron only made by marketing decisions, peopel act liek he wasnt allowed to go to miami. He was a free agent he could have said i want to go to lakers for all i care. it was his choice so we cant bash him for that. I wont deny kobe is a beast either, im a fan of basketball so i respect his game, just what is annoying is denying someone like lebron his due. he is the best player in the league hands down as of right now because kobe’s numbers dont match up. as of right now. kobe had his time and now its lebrons. Just liek kobe has had his time with great HOF teammates its lebrons turn. jordan had great teammates, so did bird and magic all HOF teammates so we can’t hate on bron.

  • truthteller

    @Eboy: If what your cheerleader JTaylor just said was what you were going to say, then you and him are both IDIOTS! Simple and plain.

  • truthteller

    @Eboy” or maybe you and Jtaylor are the same people… either way, you’re both MORONS!

  • Kyle

    Lakers Fans We beat yall with a less than average team and you think we can’t beat yall this year. Please enlighten me on how that makes sense.

  • flipnoyce

    Does anybody here play real ball, or just playin balls with all talked? Anybody could be an analyst up in here but unless you play the real thing then there’s a big difference in opinion.

  • CHIEF

    Chief Balls

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  • http://toronto.com Mr 416

    C’mon Son getdafcukouttaherewitdatbullshtt

  • wottywo

    Lebron won’t win the MVP again until he wins a ring, the same goes for Steve Nash. And I don’t know about 73 wins, or any records, but this year I have the heat as the favorite.

  • Baguma

    stupid

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