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Friday, August 27th, 2010 at 9:30 am  |  40 responses

Steve Nash Optimistic About New-Look Suns

Nash does his best to try and convince Suns fans that things will be OK in Phoenix. From the AZ Republic: “Three months after a conference-finals run and a month before training camp, Nash returned to find the Suns’ house rearranged and a need for him to apply some feng shui concepts again. At 36, Nash has the onus to be great and galvanizing with five new Suns, a wing-loaded rotation and a dearth of size. ‘I expect that from myself anyway,’ Nash said after a workout. ‘Whoever we march out there, I expect to lead the team and play at an extremely high level. I would expect that no matter who we had. I’ll just embrace the challenge of plugging in new pieces, trying to make it work and make everyone feel good about what we’re doing.’”

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  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Nashty is gonna love Hakim Warrick. BOOK IT!

  • http://www.nba.com GP23

    When is he retiring ???? Im guessing he might play into his 40′s.

  • http://www.twitter.com/gerardhimself Gerard Himself

    GP: as far as I know he wants to play for another year or two and see how he feels after that. (whatever he does after basketball, I hope TNT will get him the day after he retires)

  • JTaylor21

    Please Hakim The Twig Warrick is no Amare. Steve Nash is lucky that he plays in a fast paced offense or his numbers will look worse than his Dallas days.

  • AT33

    They will make the playoffs just cuz of Nash, they won’t make it far but i could see them challenge themselves into the 2nd round. Future HOF and will go down as one of the greats.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Deluded is the word you were looking for, not optimistic.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    they’ve got the pieces to win regular season games. this squad reminds me of the one the suns had when stoudemire hurt his knee.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Chiqo
    No one on that team is on the level of Shawn Marion in his prime. Yet more proof that Marion’s impact on that Suns team, where he averaged like 20 and 12, is vastly underrated.
    Did you know that Marion put up 26 and 13 against the Clippers that year? Bet you didn’t.

  • JoeMaMa

    If Nash leads this team to 50 wins, his HOF credentials will only be further cemented. He’s one of the best guards anyone on this board as ever seen…consummate team player, insane shooting/assist percentages, leader, winner, NASH, BABY.

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    Allenp: You’re right, but other than Marion, this Suns team is way deeper. You had Marion, then the second best player was Barbosa, who rarely showed up, then Raja Bell, then freaking Tim Thomas. Then Boris “I suck terribly” Diaw. Then Kurt Thomas. Then JAMES JONES. THEN MARCUS BANKS.
    This team has Richardson, Grant Hill, Hedo Turkoglu, Josh Childress, Jared Dudley, Robin Lopez, Channing Frye, Hakim Warrick, and most importantly, Goran Dragic. A contender, this team is not, but it’s deep enough to surprise people just like last year.

  • JTaylor21

    @JoeMama, I’m sorry that I’ve to break the news to you this way but Nash is highly overrated. Dude hasn’t played an ounce of defense since probably 5th grade, benefits from having played with two of the best PFs of this era, plays in a fast-paced offense, hasn’t made it to the Finals, won 2MVPs that he had no business winning and also did I forget to mention plays NO DEFENSE. That sounds to like an highly overrated/overhyped player. The truth hurts.

  • Nate C

    @jtaylor: Amen

  • JoeMaMa

    @JTaylor: Okay, guy, listen: Steve Nash shoots 40%+ from 3. That’s very very good. As a player in a fast paced offense that requires quick shots from the outside on pick and rolls, you would assume his field goal% is low. But it’s over 50%, which, in today’s game, puts him in a select group of players, reserved for post guys. Also, at a 90% clip, you can’t foul him because he’s automatic, making him extremely valuable down the stretch. This makes him a potential 180 player every year (he’s done it FIVE TIMES), which is almost unheard of. (other players to reach this are Larry BirdX3, Reggie Miller, Dirk Nowitzki, Mark Price) Also, playing fast paced doesn’t make you good, it makes you fast. He’s a deadly shooter, and probably the best assist man in the league. the NBA is a pick and roll league, making him deadly if A) you double him, because he finds the open spot, B) you play off him, because he’ll can the J, C) you switch, because he’ll exploit the match up.
    His D sucks. No argument. As for his MVPs, he lead his team to a massive turnaround, putting up great stats. The second was because he put up even better numbers while leading (let’s not think Amare, Sean, or anyone else was LEADING that team) his team to another great record…which, I know this, effectively tied the hands of the voters who felt it necessary to acknowledge the seeming improvement of the reigning MVP. But I could care less about what writers think of him. I’ve seen him play live; he’s freaking GOOD, MAN. Awards are nice and all, but I go off game.
    He’s awesome. Questions?

  • http://hoopistani.blogspot.com hoopistani

    @JoeMama thats the truth right there. Anyone who doesn’t like steve nash probably doesnt watch him play

  • http://Nba.com GP23

    Steve nash is amazing, my fave point guard. However, kobe deserved that 2006 mvp award.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Joe
    The only think I disagree with is that the Suns pace doesn’t impact Nash’s shooting percentage. He’s a great shooter, and was regularly around 48 percent in Dallas, but coming to Phoenix with the pace that team uses and the shots that pace creates has really helped him shoot better. And, the rules changes in the league haven’t hurt.
    Jukai
    I agree that the overall talent, on paper, is better, than the year he played without Amare.
    But, I think people are grossly overrating what Channing Frye, Grant Hill, Chidress and Hakim Warrick can bring to the table without a player like Marion or Amare putting pressure on the defense.
    I know it’s popular to call Marion a bum, but he’s underrated as a pick and roll playera and a stretch four. His activity created buckets for other people, and the way he ran the floor made points easy to come by and gave three point shooters open looks in transition.
    And, well I think Amare is more of an offensive force than the vast majority of the basketball public realizes. Amare was made for the pick and roll like Malone was made for the pick and roll. I don’t see that in anybody else on the Suns roster, particularly not Hakim Warrick.
    But, if Nash manages to make Warrick look like a star, and raise the level of play for everyone on that team, well he will definitely justify all the man love he’s received over the years.

  • Robb

    Nash is a great offensive PG no question, but his defense is soooo soooo weak. An MVP should be effective at both ends of the floor, I think that’s why he’s labeled as an overrated player by many. Don’t get me wrong he’s good, but he’s not a complete player. An MVP of this era MUST play both offense and defense at a high level.

  • jedi420

    I honestly don’t understand how people can call Nash overrated. Yes his defense is lacking, but for a man with limited athleticism he has put together an amazing career. Name one other guy other than John Stockton that has done anything remotely comparable with a similar skillset (white non dunking 6 foot guards).. Not to mention growing up in Canada where the thoughts of playing in the NBA are a pipe dream at best, this guy is a future HOF and an inspiration to many.

  • total scrotal implosion

    There is no denying nash is a great shooter. Defense is non existent, dont let a once every two weeks charge fool you. 05 mvp was shaqs, 06 was probably timmys, no way kobe was getting it at a 6 seed(?). Shawn marion was the soul and key to that team, he is what allowed them to play that style. Hes also one of most underrated of this era, he could defend 1-4. Nash is going to miss amre badly. Many ppl thought nash made amare look good, but it was the other way. Amare is top 2 finisher in the league, his creativity, explosiveness and effectiveness on pick n roll is unparallelled. He got 3 assists a game for nash that no one else would be able to get. Besides all that, I dont see how suns will play with four 3s, grant, turk, dudley, childress. Weird team

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Who cares, I have wrote detailed many times about how overrated Nash career is. The two MVP’s mess people mind up. They start acting like he is top 10 point guard all time. I feel he has failed as a point guard, by hurting Dallas chances, Didn’t Dallas make it to the Finals the year after Nash left with DEVIN HARRIS running the point. The thing is he PLAYED DEFENSE kids. Also Nash career in Dallas sucked check numbers. His career avearge is 15 and 8. I feel Nash has had some good teams in Phx and did nothing with them. Nash is a reliable point guard thats it. He is not one of the greats, just because you shot 90% or above from free throw line or shot 40% from three, doesnt make you great folks. ITS WHAT YOU DO IN THE PLAYOFFS. Nash I think has the most playoff games in career without making it to the Finals. Is he really a Hall of Famer or a good point guard who got hyped up by the media. You figure it out. But there were and are plenty of point guards in the league then and now I would take over Nash. PERIOD!!!

  • dsleepy21

    nash is in no way overrated. if i asked you to name other guys in the nba who can do what he does at the same level on a nightly basis, you’d end up naming a list of really great point guards and some GREAT team leaders. no one said he had amazing defensive skills, or that he didn’t play in a system that fitted his strengths. he simply is what he is: one of the great floor leaders and most gifted passers of a generation.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    @The Seed: I agree with everything you said except when you say Nash isn’t top 10 PG of all-time, he is. He is overrated, he didn’t deserve the MVP in 06(Kobe’s award), the media loves him because he is white and is the classiest dude the league has seen, he has had great great teams but hasn’t done much with them. Nash is great he has those two(should be 1) MVP’s to back it up, but he isn’t as great as the media, league executives make him to be.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Pardeep, nash is nowhere close to top 10 pg all time, not even top 20. Kobe was not getting the mvp in 06, lakers were not good enough, you dont get mvp if u dont even have homecourt advantage. Funny how u say steve is ‘the classiest dude the league has seen’ right after u say hes loved cuz hes white. Interesting. Nash couldnt tie jason kidds shoelaces. He carried his team to back to back finals. No shame in losing to the best teams of the era, which early lal and spurs def were. Nash lovers are worse than kobe and bron fans cuz at least they have credibility. They def overstate but not without merit. Nashs mvps are a joke and his ‘legacy’ will be greatly inflated from reality. anyone with a sense of perspective knows that.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    JTaylor is a hopeless dumbf#ck who has a hard on for Rubio and Nash..just ignore him

  • JTaylor21

    TSI is so RIGHT. Amare made Nash the player everyone cherishes and OVERRATES today. Without him there to finish all those pick and rolls nash’s numbers will be even less impressive. There’s no player in the league that finishes like Amare does off the pick and roll either with his freakish athleticism around the rim or his GREAT mid range jumper. Also 18/11 and 15/11 are not as great as people think they are, when compared to other great point guards numbers currently in the league and those that are retired, they come up very short. There are about 25 active and retired PGs that I will choose over Nash any day.

  • JoeMaMa

    Sigh. Everyone keeps talking about MVPs like they’re championships. Who cares? I’m not even basing my case on his individual awards. He’s possibly the best shooter in the league, as well as assist man…he’s an offensive force. At age, what, 35, 36? Like…I can’t believe I’m defending Nash from the morons on this site who have a bone to pick. Don’t talk MVPs, politics, his place in the NBA history books…just watch him play, even at his advancing age. True basketball heads know what he brings.

  • hangtime Hec

    Co-sign JoeMaMa. Sometimes it feels like half of the commentators on this website have never seen a basketball game before.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Nash is one of the better PGs out. He looks to draw charges and I can’t think of another PG that goes out, with one eye, a broken nose and stitches in his head and actually plays ‘better’ than when uninjured… it doesn’t even need to be about Steve Nash alone. With the rising skills of Dragic along with Nash (and now that Darren Collison has gone to Indian) there is no other 2 PG combo ready to play next season…… the closest combo along would be Gilbert and John Wall but they are yet to prove they can play 1 starting and 1 off the bench.
    JTaylor the one thing you leave out is Nashs ability to get his team mates to buy into the ‘same page mentality’. The Suns will play very well this season.

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    Let’s have a moment of silence for JTaylor’s brain cells.

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    Magic Johnson, Tiny Archibald, Lenny Wilkins were all sucky defenders. Why does everyone keep bringing up how bad Nash is on the defensive end? HE’s 36. At his absolute physical height, both Gary Payton and Danny Aigne called him a competent defender. His back problems killed his defense. But people act like it’s such a glaring damn problem that it cancels out all his offense, how he runs a team, and how he can take over an entire game.
    Haters will hate, but the lies get annoying after a while.

  • Towelie

    wow some of you guys are pessimists. Don’t won’t to explain but anyway…

    Steve Nash is the epitome of what you want in a NBA player.

    Look how far he got his team in the playoffs. He has heart and will.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    TSI: Kobe was the MVP that year, put any other player in the league on that Laker squad and the team finishes 10th, that team I think finished 6th and almost beat the Suns….. Nash is top 10 all-time PG, but he is overrated and @Jukai: he cant take a game over.

  • http://dsjfklfl.com Jukai

    I’m sorry, Pardeep, but did you literally miss this year’s playoffs? Nash took over against the Spurs to close out the series, then took over against the Lakers and almost put the SUns up 3-2. He was draining shot after shot over every single player on the court.
    What is your definition of “take over a game.” Cause it must be different from mine, and well, everyone elses.

  • http://slamonline.com nikehead23

    if hes lucky he’ll make it far enough next season to get pounded by the lakers again

  • andy

    haha i love how every time i read some posts it’s always Jtaylor21 hatin’ the ish out of almost every single player like it’s his damn livelihood…

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Memba when Nashty was spanking Kobe in the playoffs in the 1st round two years in a row? Not to digress, but it’s amazing what getting Fisher and Gasol has done for the Lakers and Kobe’s legacy. They go from no playoffs, first round exit, first round exit to 3 straight trips to the NBA Finals and back-to-back champs and Fisher as the guest host of Rome is Burning interviewing Kobe.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Pardeep, youre dumb. No way kobe was even getting a look at mvp that year. A 6th seed does not get mvp. Yes he put up large numbers but so what, the team was mediocre at best. Get lucid

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    TSI: He averaged 35 ppg, again he should have got it because he lead this team to a 6th seed, there is not ONE player in the league that year that could lead these guys to a 6th seed let alone a playoff spot. Thats value.

  • JTaylor21

    Pardeep, It doesn’t matter if he was playing with a bunch of middle school kids. You have to win at least 50-55 games just to be considered for the award, also I can name about 3 guys that could lead those guys to the playoffs. That award should have gone to either Wade, TD or Bron not Nash.

  • JTaylor21

    Even Dirk had a better case for the award than nash did.

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