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Thursday, September 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am  |  47 responses

FIBA Dancers Banned from Turkey’s Games

Due to cultural and religious reasons, the host country for the World Championship tourney has told the dancers to halt their show. Reports the AP: “The Red Foxes have been told to stop performing in games involving the host country because their risque costumes and routines are offensive to the nation that is nearly entirely Muslim. Islam prohibits women from exposing their skin in public. Basketball’s governing body said Wednesday the ban was not its decision. Secretary general Patrick Baumann said he wants entertainment to be part of the games, but ‘if it needs a little bit of adjustment that is fine with us.’ Performers wore long pants Wednesday during a game between the United States and Iran. Iranian officials had turned their backs when the dancers, who usually wear tiny shorts or skirts, performed in earlier games. The Red Foxes, a professional dance team from the Ukraine, will still perform at other games in Ankara. ‘The dancers bring much fun and joy to fans watching games and help to create a vibrant, happy atmosphere in the arenas,’ Baumann said.”

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  • The Philosopher

    The undressed is vulgar -
    The nude is pure.
    (Robert Green Ingersoll)

  • Ethan

    People need to get over themselves

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    This is stupid. Why did they ask to host the games if they were not comfortable with all the games encompass. It’s not a big deal at all but just seems silly to me. If you don’t want to see cheerleaders then maybe you shouldn’t offer to host an event in which they participate.

  • http://www.slamonline.com RIGGS

    i think it was louis c.k. who once said that for terrorism to stop, they all just need to get laid.

  • Ben

    If you go to a country, you respectfully follow the cultural rules of that country. Seems pretty basic to me.

  • The Philosopher

    Co-sign Ben.

  • Noel

    What does this have to do with terrorism. You mean the oppression of women?

  • JTaylor21

    They need to also ban men acting like females from playing, the whole Spanish team bit*hes and pouts like a woman PMSing. I can’t stand those clowns.

  • JoeMaMa

    @dirty frank: they wanted to host the FIBA Championships, not a dance contest. Cheerleaders are completely unncessary to the games or the event itself. People love basketball all over the world; cheerleaders aren’t needed to add to the event. As organizers, it’s their right to enforce cultural standards…it’s also somewhat misleading to bring the Muslim faith into the discussion. You can find plenty of Buddhists, Christians, Sikhs, Jews, Jainists, and (where I am, in the Congo) indigenous beliefs that would rather not inject sexy dancing into a basketball event.

  • JTaylor21

    It must suck living in a muslim country because you can’t even tell whether a broad is cute or looks like amarosa. It will be like playing russian roulette, you could get lucky or get a grenade.

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    @JoMaMa. I agree that cheerleaders are not needed but I don’t understand why this was not resolved long before the games started. Why now?

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    @ Ben. I agree with that principal but feel it’s different if a nation chooses to host an international event. If you invite people to your home and have reservations about what they are going to wear maybe you should put something in the invitation about it.

  • Ethan

    JoJoMa,

    I get all countries aren’t free, but regardless if freedom of expression is allowed, at the very least one would think this could have been resolved prior to the games starting.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    1) I’m with JoeMaMa on the cheerleaders are not needed remark.
    2) I also agree with Ben’s post about going to a country.
    On another note, when Matt Lawyue was doing one of those Live Blog on one of the FIBA games, I’m pretty sure one of his entries included fans cheering loudly for the cheerleaders.

  • David -aussie in Canada

    This is getting ridiculous.

    Why is it that muslim countries are the only countries that would get offended by this?

    Cultural or not, this is an international event with plenty of cultures.

    Does this mean if a muslim country offered to host the FIFA World Cup for women, all the women have to wear track pants and long sleeved shirts??? WTF?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    @David- David Beckham wears long sleeves to cover his tats cause apparently he isn’t allowed to show them on the field. He does it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    “Beckham has always played in long sleeve shirts to cover up his tattoos in consideration of others who may feel uncomfortable due to their beliefs.”
    A quote.

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    co-sign Ben and JoeMaMa. When I attended Sonics games I always found (the mascot) Squash’s antics and other entertainers way more amusing than the dancers. Bascat needs more love anyways.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    what’s to be upset about? it’s only during one team’s games and it’s for religious beliefs. whether i agree or not, what’s wrong with having some tolerance for the beliefs/customs of others?

  • http://Soulbanger.tumblr.com Tapion786

    In Vatican city, women are not allowed to have their legs or arms showing as a form of respect. The act of being covered is a form of modesty observed many faiths (Christianity and Judaism being a couple), so if a faith based country asks for women to be covered, requests like that should be respected. But Turkey should have made this clear since the start of the tournament, not in the middle.

  • larrylegend

    on the one hand, turkey wants to be regarded as an european country (and to join the european union), on the other side…

  • http://thacorner.net/forums Kevin

    I think that half-nude women dancing can unite all cultures and religions personally

  • http://www.slamonline.com RIGGS

    another reason why im an atheist

  • http://Www.lkz.net Darksaber

    Those ladies are the cheer squad for the Khimki Moscow ream as well. And their show is by no means tame, but the outfits are quite skimpy. Skimpy enough that i’ve hear at least 2 commentators remark excitedly about the ‘performance’. But hey, it is a muslim culture, so i understand. But this, as well as the slippery ads on the courts shows some bad preparation by the WBC organisers. Why book them in that host country at all?

  • Sean B

    just another example of religion subjugating women to pieces of property and stunting the growth of humanity all at once. Riggs, I’m on your team.

  • The Philosopher

    @RIGGS:
    Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, who said it, no matter if I said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
    (Buddha)

  • underdog

    Well, at this moment I’m watching the Argentina – Serbia game live, and the dancer girls’re wearing tights which are shorter than those infamous Lakers’ throwback short-shorts. On other news: Luis Scola is a beast.

  • http://www.lemon-aid.de jmart

    first of all: turkey is supposed to be a secular country…
    besides that, turkish music videos are pretty sexual too!

  • http://Www.lkz.net Darksaber

    Underdog: me toi. I so wish someone would smack that smug look off Teodosic’s face.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Organized religion is the biggest problem humanity has to get over, its responsible for more deaths and wars than anything………… Cheerleader ish should have been planned for

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    them dancers be lookin bad anyways…strange outfits and stuff…lol Europeans do things differently lol

  • kwame

    i just want everyone to realize that not all muslims believe this tho

  • CONEY ISLANDER

    YET ANOTHER REASON WHY RELIGION SHOULD BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. IT HAS DONE FAR MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO THE HUMAN RACE!

  • unrel

    it’s a double edge sword.. but if you had a friend that was vegetarian.. and invited him over for dinner.. would you expect him to eat meat?..

  • http://jayemmbee.blogspot.com ClutchPerformer

    this is all fine,its your country and your rules but what about when these people come to our countries (mine being canada ) and make these request, some absurd. the try and bring their rules to us. my thing is I go to your country I follow your rules and I know you wont bend your rules for me and I wouldnt want you to, I rather you stick your beliefs, but I think we deserve the same respect when you come to our countries to not whine and try and accommodate to you, when you know your country wouldnt do the same. your country your rules, our country our rules, either follow and adjust accordingly ( as fiba has) them or leave

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Joe: You’re right, basketball (or a lot of things for that matter) don’t need scantily clad women as side-entertainment. IF you are prohibiting that sort of thing to prevent the objectification of women, then good on you (I’m not saying the dancers are being vile or anything like that… They’ve got to earn a living too… I’m a bit on the fence with this myself). HOWEVER, IF you are preventing these dancers from performing because of a religious “law” that states women can’t even expose THEIR OWN FREAKING SKIN IN PUBLIC, then that’s ridiculous. I’m all for multiculturalism, and I understand that NOT all Muslims practice these kinds of backward traditions–but let’s get real. Motive/reasoning means a lot.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Why the heck was my comment deleted? Because I said the word “(M)uslim”?! Wow…

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ tsi: Ehhh, actually money (or resources, wealth, etc.) has probably caused more wars. Except they have usually been linked, like during the age of imperialism (which some may argue continues today) when Natives/indigenous peoples were killed for their land/resources AND sought for conversion by people from the very countries slaughtering and stealing from them…

  • ilyasova

    i’m from turkey and this is not exactly true. they were just banned from one game which the prime minister is watching. that’s also ridiculous and i disagree. please don’t compare turkey to iran, pakistan, malaysia… come and see it.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    nvm comment wasn’t banned. Just took a while. Sorry about complaining.
    @ ilyasova: If I made a false assumption please let me know.

  • http://www.goal.com Tariq

    ClutchPerformer:
    Yes, we need to stop Muslims’ total disregard for Canadian law. But I guess when you’re used to backward traditions, it can be difficult to adapt to a civilized country.

  • http://www.goal.com Tariq

    I would also like to say that it’s about time those damn Muslims start respecting American law…you know, like freedom of religion and Habeas corpus. I hate to admit it, but maybe King Leopold was right.

  • total scrotal implosion

    Tariq, corpus doesnt exist anymore, for anyone

  • Ali Duyar

    I am from Turkey and all cheerleaders are on at every games,they banned just for one game.If you are watching games,you can see those beautiful ladies.

  • http://www.lemon-aid.de jmart

    word @ tariq again

  • http://slamonline.com Dave.

    > it’s about time those damn Muslims start respecting
    > American law…you know, like freedom of religion
    That was hands down the most phenomenally stupid remark on Slam in weeks.

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