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Wednesday, September 22nd, 2010 at 9:35 am  |  390 responses

Phil Jackson on Miami Heat: Teamwork Wins, Not Talent

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

The Zen Master knows a thing or two (or thirteen) about winning titles. Having won them as both a player and coach, his opinion on the matter is rather meaningful.

So, is Phil ready to jump on the revamped Heat’s bandwagon, and crown them as champs? Well, not exactly.

Jackson spoke to ESPN 1000 about LeBron and co., and cautions that accumulating great talent does not always result in championship glory.

The OC Register
and LA Times have the quotes:

He apparently isn’t all that impressed that the Heat has three of the league’s best players, and he certainly is ready to crown them NBA champions without a fight. Or at least a season’s worth of games. “They got great talent,” Jackson said in an interview with ESPN 1000 in Chicago. “There’s no question about their talent they have. But, talent doesn’t always win. The team that shows the best teamwork will win it. We think that (the Lakers) have established something. But, if (the Heat) can unite — and build quickly — they might be able to do it.”

Jackson went on to mention a great Lakers triumvirate of the past. “I always refer to when Wilt Chamberlain was traded from Philadelphia to Los Angeles and that put Baylor, West and Chamberlain together and they never won a championship together the four years they were together,” Jackson said. “It’s not always scorers and talent that wins it. But it’s teamwork that does it.”

Jackson, long known for his psychological jabs at foes, didn’t say anything mind-blowing, or entirely revealing about Miami’s new super-team. He basically repeated what every thinking basketball fan has known since Pat Riley pulled off the deal(s) of a lifetime.

Should the Lakers and Heat meet up in the NBA Finals next June, it’ll be interesting to see just how carefully — if at all — Phil Jackson chooses his words then.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Scared already, Phil? You usually wait to start running your mouth in April.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Kurt Rambis in Minnesota last season, is what Phil Jackson would be sans superstar talent. So with that said, what I want to know, is where Beasley and PJ are getting their trees from.

  • lexluther703

    I usually don’t feed into the Zen master’s (usually snide) comments, but he makes a compelling point about the Chamberlain/West/Baylor marriage that never panned out. Ultimately I think it works in Miami though, with LBJ playing the role of playmaker/distributor and letting Wade and Bosh carry the scoring load. P-Jax is right though; basketball is a game where chemistry and brotherhood are more vital to team success than individual skill such as the wettest jump shot or the dopest handle with the rock.

  • Love4Humanity

    Phil’s right. The Heat look good on paper…the Lakers have the talent, leadership and chemistry. Let’s see what happens on Christmas Day when they play each other.

  • Jay c

    After Kobe choked in the finals with GP and co in his chance to be da man Phil recognizes that you can’t rely on your superstar guard to carry you down the stretch wo a big man like shaq or gasol. Bosh is not that big man.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Take Pau Gasol off the Lakers and then let’s talk with Phil Jackson at the end of the season when he’s fly fishing in Billings, Montana after the first round next summer.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    There’s a big difference between a “team” and “3 guys”

  • rikson

    My guess would be, that he is NOT ready to crown them as champs…

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    What exactly has Phil won WITHOUT superior talent?

  • james

    @Mo Charlo what exactly has any coach in the NBA won withouth superior talent?

  • wottywo

    Yea true there is a big difference, but I dont think the heat will hurt Chemistry wise. I could have swore(joking)that Bosh,Wade, and Lebron played on the olympic team that won the gold medal. It must just be me. What I’m trying to say is, Bosh,Wade,and Lebron have proven that they can sacrifice scoring if it came to that. So chemistry wise, yea they will bound. So get ready, because the heat are going to be fun to watch this season. And Phil, you might be eating those words when the finals come back around, and it would be a shame to take loss your last year in the league. And yes, take Paul off of the Lakers, and the Lakers wouldn’t win. Paul is there most consistent player period.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Anybody know who “Paul” is that plays for the Lakers? I don’t…

  • Conoro

    Eboy… Get a life, man.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    @ james……the Pistons of 2004 won it without superior talent.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Why do people take shots at whoever talks about the Heat. Phil Jackson was asked a question and answered it in a very politicly correct way………..whats wrong with that

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    orange
    That first comment of your was stupid as hell.
    Jay c
    Yours was even stupider.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    *politically

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    Phil = GOAT and I completely agree with his statements. It’s not like he is belittling the Heat’s chances, just pointing out that we can’t predict how teams will co-exist without a body of work to look at.

  • james

    @Eboy the pistons seriously didnt have superior talent? okay go ahead and think that

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Co-sign Eboy. That Pistons team DID NOT have superior talent. Especially in comparison to past NBA champions. A close second would be the Heat team that won in ’06.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Hursty I’m speakin’ the truth. Rambis is a wannabe PJ.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Hursty What good is the triangle, without superstar talent? Answer: See Minnesota Timberwolves 2009-10

  • rich

    the pistons didnt have one guy that was better than wade on that team nevermind lebron, but they had peieces that did not overlap in any way, they worked together like a fine oiled machine and they loved each other. that team was not superiorly talented individually but together they were like a defensive stopping masterfully executing voltron. the heat are being a little underestimated imo because there is more than one way to win. they are for sure at least in competition with the celtics and they took the lakers to 7 games without jermaine and shaq. wtf is any team gonna do when they decide to go pick and roll with lebron and wade? what are they gonna do when they cant have their pg on the floor because the smallest guy is wade on the court for the heat? what are they gonna do when all 3 all stars are having good games(even 2 for that matter)the biggest problem here is the ability to draw fouls by these 3 guys, individually they combine for around 30 freethrows a game,by the time the 4th quarter comes around and both teams need baskets from their big men the other teams coach wont even be able to leave them on the floor. punch your tickets to the ecf because im calling broom for everyone else this year

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    @ wooty woo whatever your name is …lebron and wade and bosh wouldnt won that title with out mamba …with kobe presence it was a whole different team…I think if lebron plays the playmaker role they win more then expected but i still cant see them beating the lakers let alone the celtics….lakers vs celtics 2011 BOOK IT!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Pistons did not have superior talent to the roster the Lakers had that season in the Finals. If YOU think that, it would be hard to distinguish you from being a single cell amoeba who has functioning fingers or just a dimly lit light bulb.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @James: Dating back to 1995, they are the only team to win a title without an All-NBA first teamer on the roster. I think the 04 Pistons are widely accepted as the best example of TEAM over Talent.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I can’t believe people are saying the Lakers would not win without Gasol as if they could win without Kobe. Get your head out ur butts people and quit the hate because it just sounds stupid now. Kobe is the only player I’ve ever heard “If you take so and so off the team then they win no championship”

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    if Riley doesn’t think this team could work, and will work together, he wouldnt bother a pitch for lebron. i think Miami already knows that there will be stones thrown at them just like this one. they know history and they’re ready to prove them wrong.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    …says guy who has won titles with Jordan, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq. Convenient also of Phil not to mention the talent on the Celtics, Knicks and Bucks teams that beat L.A. those four years. Typically, it’s impossible for this guy to make a half-valid point without coming off like a dick.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Anybody found out who this “Paul” guy is on the Lakers yet? The team’s most consistent player. Anyone?…Anyone?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I hope people know that when Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were on the same team the had CP3, Kobe, D12, Dwill, and Jason Kidd. So that Olympic analogy is pretty ridiculous.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    LOL@ Eboy, 10:29am

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    That Pistons team had overall more talent than the Lakers. They had Mehmet Okur coming off the bench while LA depended on Slava Medvendenko bc Malone and Grant were hurt. They were also thin at SF bc Fox was hurt and they had to depend on George. They had Kareem Rush as their sixth man so need I say more???

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    I don’t like the stance that Phil’s accomplishments as a coach are less because of the talent that he had. Sure he coached 3 – top 10 All Time Players (Jordan, Kobe, Shaq) and another HOFer (Pip), but those guys have combined for 1 title outside of the time they spent with Phil.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ Bryan Crawford.. c’mon man, lakers.. Its Paul Gaso

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Kap: We’re not talking about one year, but in general. But even at that — injuries and all — that Lakers team still had more talent top to bottom than the Pistons.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    @ Kap, They had four/4/quattro/Hall of Famers in their starting lineup and the greatest coach in the history of the game who had won 9 titles at that point. Your saying that the bench lost it for them is laughable, bro.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @J: Paul Gaso, you say? That might help. Hang on a sec… Dammit! I can’t find him either! This is really bothering me because I thought I knew who all the Lakers were.

  • wottywo

    @Breeze or whatever your name is as I would call you, Kobe wasn’t the talk and hype of that team. That team was D. Wades. not Kobe’s so get your facts straight before you become a laughing stock. Kobe was on that team for Defense(that’s bull, Kobe can’t play D. Man for real, I bet you didn’t watch a single game did you? Wade was the leading score of team U.S.A. So yea, you might want to change that theory you have. OK bye bye.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Outside of Kobe and Shaq in the ’04 finals…the Lakers had no one they could depend on. They depended on Luke Walton off the bench in several games. That’s how bad that roster was.
    Kareem Rush
    Derek Fisher
    Rick Fox (hurt)
    Slava Medvendenko
    Jamal Sampson
    Brian Cook
    Luke Walton
    That is a horrible bench compared to
    Mike James
    Mehmet Okur
    Corliss Williamson
    Elden Campbell
    Lindsey Hunter (fellow JSU alum)
    Darvin Ham

  • Anthony

    co-sign Eboy, and to some extent i think we could include San Antonio to the mix.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @Eboy…GP was washed up and Karl Malone had a knee injury that sidelined him after Game 2 and ultimately caused him to retire.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ B.C. wait there’s a clue.. “most consistent player in the lakers roster”.. Dang! i knew it. i knew Morrison’s full name is Adam Paul Morrison!

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @wottywo: That team was not DWade’s, he didn’t even start. Really, I dont think it was any one persons (outside of Coach K). Never in the history of basketball has a team belong to a guy that came in off the bench. Also, don’t forget about how Kobe carried them down the stretch against Spain. Even Coach K (in his book about the experience) identified Kobe, LBJ and Kidd as the undisputed leaders of that team. If you think that Wade being the leader scorer equates to it being his team you really failed to grasp what that team tried to do. Also, Kobe was the best perimeter defender on that team and (according to how the NBA recognizes defensive play – All NBA defense) is one of the best defensive wings of all time.

  • wottywo

    That’s funny you guys don’t know Paul Gasol is, let me help you out then. Remember the guy the Lakers picked up before they where a championship contenders. Remember when Shaq left and the Lakers couldn’t get out of the first round, and Kobe started throwing a fit about leaving? That guy the Lakers picked up in he middle of the season and the Lakers went on to face the Celtics but loss. Still no? Wow! How about this, the guy that helped Kobe win 2 more championships and the runner up for Finals MVP those two years they won the Championship. yea that guy.

  • wottywo

    @Jumpman: wade didn’t have to start, anytime the USA was mentioned Wade was the face they showed. That makes him the face of the team.
    And I do think that wade being the leading score makes him the leader of the team, it works just fine with Kobe, so why not with Wade?

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    @ at wooty first off i did watch the games kid…i never said kobe led in points or any stats ..thats the problem with alot a fans you think numbers do all the talking ..the previous year before kobe melo lebron wade all was doing the same thing what happpen they lost…kobe was choice number one to lead no stat wise but lead the REDEEM team to the gold…ask Coack K ” kobe is the best player on this team and the best player i ever coached”….not undermining wades ability but facts are facts the year previously wade melo lebron wasnt enough…

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @wottywoo…The Lakers were first in the Western Conference that season before they traded for Pau Gasol bc Andrew Bynum was averaging close to 20 and 10 and he got hurt which led to Kupchak pulling the trigger on the trade.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Dwyane was the best player on the 2008 Olmpic team. Anyone that tries to put Kobe in that spot (who was beat off the dribble over and over and over and over and over by every other countries guards) is just a Kobe slurper. I love Dwyane and all, but this shouldn’t even be debatable. Kobe had one great quarter in that tournament and it happened in the gold medal game against Spain. It was a great performance for those 10 minutes. He didn’t hit the biggest shot in that game though (or quarter). Dwyane did. Check Kobe’s horrid shooting percentages throughout and I know someone with some intelligence will back me on his terrible defense in those Olympics. Kobe may have been the third best player in those games on that team, behind Dwyane and Lebron, who terrorized every country with HIS D. Stop your fantasies, kids.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @wottywo: just a heads up, everyone knows who PAU Gasol is. It’s this Paul person that you keep confusing him with that has everybody mixed up.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Coach K was being diplomatic and has a relationship with Kobe outside of the games.

  • wottywo

    Breeze: that’s funny kid, thats all Kobe is numbers are you kidding me? Yea numbers tell a lot. Ok Coach K said this and Coach K said that, but it still doesn’t change the fact that Wade lead that team(my bad, he lead them off the bench). COme on now, if Kobe was the leading score, you guys would be popping champagne. But like I said again Kid, that was Wades team. Like lil wayne said, numbers don’t lie.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Alot of people don’t know this but starting in the ’06 season the Lakers would always come out the gate hot and were a top 4 seed in West before injuries would ruin their chances two consecutive years in a row. So those who say the Lakers didn’t become good until they got Gasol (they may not have won the championship but they were starting something nice w/o Gasol) are only casual fans or know nothing about the Lakers.

  • JoeMaMa

    @everyone: we’re all talking about ‘superior’ talent. Well, let’s review. They won one title, lost in 7 (in the 4th Q, mind you) the next year, and were eliminated by a (so far) career defining performance by LeBron (and then Boobie?!). They also lost to the Championship Heat in the Conf. Finals. They went to the Conference Finals 6 YEARS IN A ROW.

    BWallace is a 4X DPOY/All Star, 5X All NBA team selection, and 6X All Defensive team selection; Chauncey is a 4X All Star, 3X All NBA team Selection, and 2X all Defensive team Selection; Rip Hamilton is a 3X All Star; Rasheed a 4X All Star; Tayshaun was on the US Olympic team and a 4 time Defensive all team selection. All Rasheed, Chauncey, and Rip were all getting automatic buckets then, too. Rip has averaged 20ppg, Billups a shade under that, and same goes for Sheed.

    Was this not a team with Superior talent? Because any starting five with 4 All stars, 2 Olympians, and countless All NBA Defensive team selections, including the DPOY, should be considered a team with superior talent.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ Wottywo.. yeah i really don’t know who “Paul Gasol” is..

  • wottywo

    @Kap: It doesn’t matter what place the Lakers were in during the season, that fact of the subject is, Gasol was on that team when the Playoffs started.

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    I’m surprised he pointed out some ancient Laker team instead of pointing out his own ’04 squad.

  • wottywo

    @J Trust me, if Gasol gets traded or injured, you will remember him quick.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Eboy: DWade was Team USA’s best player, no doubt. And yes, Kobe did get beat of the dribble quite a few times in the Olympic Tournament. No argument there either. His shooting percentages, meh. But in the Gold Medal game (when it counted), who brought it home for Team USA? Shhhhh….

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    @ wooty first off lil wayne didnt originate that line another one of the greatest Jay-z did … wade was scoring well the year before it didnt seem to help them that year..melo was virtually ungaurdable lebron was doing the same thing that tandem didnt work..they needed a leader and just as jumpman stated kobe was easliy the best defender on the team..and made the biggest buckets of the tourney…so just like the finals he may didnt have great numbers in game 7 ..but when you look at teh whole series he always showed when it counted and the reason why the won in the first place….

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    kobe is just one of the leaders in that team. he’s not the best player on that team. 1A- Wade, 1B- Lebron. Closed.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Actually Melo was the best player on the team and anyone who plays ball knows that when you are playing perimeter defense your offense is gonna suffer bc of all the energy expended on defense. There was a reason Kobe started and Wade came off the bench. I’m pretty sure if Wade was chasing down the other teams best player from end line to end line then he would of been gassed also and would not as been effective on defense. They called Kobe the rottweiler that year bc how he was hounding people on defense and that was his main focus not scoring.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    i think the argument could be made that due to injuries, the Pistons and Lakers didn’t have a huge talent gap. Malone was on one leg, and Luke Walton was a key reserve. That right there should tell you something.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @Wottywo: Leading scorer does not equate to team leader. Take Magic Johnson. Magic wasn’t the leading scorer most years, but he was still the team’s leader. Now I’m not saying that Kobe’s 2008 performance was on par with Magic Johnson type numbers. What am I saying is you do not have to lead a team in scoring to lead it. I am not saying that Wade did not have a better stat line than Kobe in the 08 olympics. What I am saying is, for that team, it wasn’t about individual statistics and it did not belong to any one player.

  • wottywo

    @ Breeze: Hold up, now when Kobe was killing, I could have sworn that team USA was barely winning in the gold medal round. Now when wade came into that game(off the bench in the 4th quarter) the USA team pulled away never looked back and they won the gold.
    You don’t have to originate something to make it work. Look at Kobe, his style of play and his mindset is a adoption of Micheal Jordans.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ wottywo.. You don’t get it dude.. You said it 3 times man, 3 times. And if you finally realized it (read jumpman’s comment or your previous post or search the player’s name) don’t comeback here saying excuses like “typo error”.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @wottywo: seriously everyone knows who PAU Gasol is and recognizes his importance. But, ou keep referring to him as PAUL, it’s getting kind of ridiculous.

  • wottywo

    @Jumpman3224: I know that, but when people look back at the 2008 USA team, who are they going to say carried that team? Kobe because he was supposedly a defensive monster? Or D. Wade. Thank you. Its like Kobe winning the finals mvp. Game 7 with Kobe was a little bit out the ordinary, but when it comes down to it, we are only going to remember numbers(stats), nothing else matters.

  • wottywo

    @Jumpman3224: I know that, I’m not stupid dog, my knowledge of the olympics should tell you that.But as long as people are willing are willing to play dumb, I’m willing to do the same.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Personally, I don’t “remember” numbers. I have to look them up. But clearly, by constantly referring to a player by the wrong name and saying that they remember numbers and stats, someone here is Rainman.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Hey wottywo realized it yet?

  • JTaylor21

    Alright since I’m kind of late to the party here I go; Kobe shot the 04 lakers out of the title, they had no reason losing to a inferior DET team. Shaq was actually unstopable when he got the ball (look at his stats/shooting numbers) but Kobe was on a personal vendetta to show people that he could lead LA to a chip (by winning the Finals MVP). Also DWade was the BEST player in the Olympics BAR NONE and he was coming of the bench. 2.Bron 3.CBosh 4.Melo 5.DHow 6.CP. Kobe was probably the 7th best player overall throughout the tournament and it pains me when people (BCraw) claim that he carried them to the gold, CHILD PLEASE. Another LIE fabricated by his fans and the media that overstates his greatness and makes me despise dude even more.

  • wottywo

    My bad, I miss spelled Gasols first name.OH well.

  • wottywo

    @JTaylor: thanks for clearing that up man. I guess when you are a Kobe fan, everything he doesn’t do great looks great.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    One of us here needs to go back and watch the ’08 Gold Medal game against Spain again or — knowing this person and the ridiculous comments that they routinely make — for the first time. They would also do well by going to find some old God Shammgod film too. It helps to actually KNOW about something before speaking on it. Just a thought. I won’t say any names though because this person doesn’t actually exist to me.

  • wottywo

    @Bryan Crawford: Exist, come on man this is a discussion board, non of use exist on here. We here for our input on each subject slam gives us to chat about, that’s it. What confuses me with you , I can’t explain it. You would rather give Kobe one game where he shines, then give Wade the whole tournament,and give Wade his props. Have you lost your mind? And you say you don’t do this and you don’t do that,so if you don’t remember stats or anything, what makes you able to chat on any subject slam offers us to chat about? So what I missed spelled Gasols name, big deal, at least I tell facts and not opinions.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’ve adopted a new rule: I will only acknowledge people that actually have a clue about basketball…starting with the proper spelling of a player’s name. If a person can’t at least get THAT right (and says it’s not a big deal that they can’t), then anything else that they have to say is meaningless. Carry on…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Uhm….again….Kobe had one good quarter….not a great game. Be accurate when you throw around unwarranted praise.

  • JTaylor21

    Of course dude gives NO reasonable or factual evidence to refute my claim other than reference old BS. Who gives a F*CK about SHAMgod, looks like someone’s STILL living in the past. Everybody and they mama watched the freaking game, BOY so don’t act like your old grumpy a** was the only one who watched it in your 1945 black and white tv set.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Over the course of the last couple of days, I’ve noticed a trend here….lots of dudes are calling people “old” in their rants. Is this the new “your mama” joke or something like that? I actually like it!

  • wottywo

    Anyway back to what I was saying. Wade, Bosh, and Lebron have played together(yes for the Olympics) and for that reason alone, they made sacrifices and I believe that little time they sent together has them on the same level as far as chemistry. The biggest problem will be the rest of their teammates, because they haven’t bounded with them yet. But to throw another fact, and not a opinion, it doesn’t matter how you say it, the Lakers are the favorite to win the west because no team is powerful enough to beat them. And in the East, it will be out of the Celtics, and the Heat. I can’t say Orlando because they didn’t do anything to improve there team/

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Ahem, EBOY, if you referring to me… I didn’t give Kobe praise for having a great game, or even praise him for being the best player on Team USA which admittedly, he was not. My statement — what I do give him praise for — was that he closed the game out. Which did happen and was not an inaccurate statement.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I like the Thunder’s chances of upsetting the Lakers. I think if Durant doesn’t listen to all the hype he’s been getting and stay strong as opposed to fading like he did last playoffs, they have a real shot. They played them hard and looked really good in the two games they won. They’re seasoned now. That’s big.

  • http://www.borntocompete.com Money$hot

    No Sh*t! Fa real it doesn’t take a Zen Master to know that you need teamwork in a team sport to be successful. News flash every team who has won a chip has had teamwork. You still have to have talent, you would be naive to think you could win without talent, and u would be just as naive to think you could win without teamwork.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Eboy, I equate “old” with having wisdom. Which is clearly better than being “young” and stupid.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It wasn’t in relation to you, B. He closed out because (by design and Coach K’s prodding) the offense ran through him for the later stages of the 4th quarter. This in irrefutable. It was a smart strategy to allow him free-reign to try and take them home since he’s been in those spots numerous times. But it was designed to be Kobe’s show….the rest of the guys didn’t b*tch about it and played their roles. Interesting that that group included Bosh, James and Wade. May say something of how those three guys will play together in the future.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    B, since I have years on you, I’m sure I agree. Or maybe I don’t, my Alzheimers is sporadic.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Well Eboy, you’re pretty cool for an old guy with Alzheimers and has to take Metamucil(that was dig was hialrious BTW).

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Thank you, sonny.

  • wottywo

    I could see the Thunder take on the Lakers, it’s just the Lakers players are tall and they have a lot options when it comes to scoring. But if the thunder plans on winning, the thunder has to depend on more then Westbrook and Durant.

  • http://aol.com Run’N'Gun219

    @ wottywo i guess when you are a Kobe hater like Eboy, jtaylor, and yourself everything the man does is horrible. Your comment are pure hate. if u are a basket ball fan. u can not say that he is not the best in the league. u may not like him but u gotta like and respect his game. He bust’s EVERYONE’s ass. Yall talk about game 7 yeah he wasnt on fire, but he still finished with 23 pts, 15 rebs. and he averaged 29 points for the whole series. Miss us with the B*llsh1t. And detriot team that won the finals in 04 Had a fire ass squad(sent 4 sarters to the all star team). But they worked together as well,that why they won.

  • T-Money

    Captain Obvious. But… didn’t Boston gel in like 10 games 3 years ago with a newly formed Big 3?

  • wottywo

    @Run’N'Gun219: How is my comment hating on Kobe? Did you hear me bring up anything this man did in his personal life? Oh I get it, its because I said his game is based off of MJ’S right? But I could have swore Kobe said he based his game off of MJ. I’m a straight shooter(ok I misspelled one name) but I speak fact and not opinions, if that’s wrong I don’t want to be right.

  • Love4Humanity

    All of this Olympics talk….without Kobe, Team USA lost in 2006. With Kobe, they won in 07 and 08. I think that should say it all. Leadership doesn’t necessarily mean you go out there and score more than everyone else. That 06 team lacked leadership without Kobe. The Heat are 2 superstar, a star and a bunch of average and below average role players. What happens when Wade and LeBron are missing shots? Who’s going to step up when both are on the bench? What happens when Bosh gets into foul trouble? Insert Juwan Howard to save the day??? From 1-12, the Lakers and Celtics have better TEAMS than the Heat. If you’re drafting a team with a pool of Heat and Celtics players, you would take Wade, LeBron and Bosh. After that, the next 5 to 6 players would be Celtics players.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    BTW – It’s funny that someone would try and take a shot at my “old” TV. Especially when it’s obviously seen more basketball than they have.

  • wottywo

    @ T-money: If it’s so obvious, then why am I the only one stating the facts?????????????????

  • JTaylor21

    It’s REAL simple for the Thunders to have any chance at beating the lakers, KD has to play like the guy everyone’s OVERHYPING today. RWestbrook is a guarantee to hold his own against the lakers because fisher has no chance agaisnt him, so it all comes down to KD vs Artest. If KD lets artest punk him like he did last year, the Thunders will LOSE.

  • http://aol.com Run’N'Gun219

    no it has nothing to do with the mj reference(Every shooting guard since 1985 have based there game off of michael0 or his personal life. its just the comment that u have been making. seems like u just cant give the man his props.

  • wottywo

    @Love4Humanity : I thought Coach K said he brought Jason Kidd on the U.S.A squad for leadership. I take it you don’t remember Jason Kidd telling Kobe, Lebron and others that he has won gold in the past, and he doesn’t want them to tarnish his perfect record.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Anybody here ever heard of the “Thunders”? I haven’t. And if I’m not mistaken, the Lakers signed Steve Blake who is going to start and DFish is going to come off the bench. Like I said, it helps to KNOW what you’re talking about before you speak. If not, you just end up looking like a fool. Some people here obviously can’t help it though. Sad. SMH…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Anybody here ever heard of the “Thunders”? I haven’t. And if I’m not mistaken, the Lakers signed Steve Blake who is going to start and DFish is going to come off the bench. Like I said, it helps to KNOW what you’re talking about before you speak. If not, you just end up looking like a fool. Some people here obviously can’t help it though. Sad. SMH… Maybe this “Paul” guy plays for the “Thunders”?

  • wottywo

    @Run’N'Gun219: I give Kobe his props, it’s hard to take away 6 nba titles along with 2 finals MVP awards away.I mean hell Kobe’s one of the faces of the NBA. But like I said, I speak facts and not opinions, give me something to talk about that Kobe did well, and I will respond to that subject in a positive way. I’m sorry but Kobe did not play well at the olympics or game 7, nor did he actually make it to the finals before Gasol. So again, I speak facts and not opinions.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Here’s a cute game: Name some famous NBA Paul’s. I’ll start: Paul Pierce

  • wottywo

    @Bryan Crawford: Are you still talking? Come on man, I thought we were done. But here you go again Mr. Kobe can’t do no wrong. Get off my back and start talking facts and not opinions ok. Because really the one that looks like the fool, is the one who doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about(Usually you).

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It’s very difficult for someone to claim that they speak “facts” when they can’t even get a guy’s name right. But that’s just my “opinion.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Cosign E at 12:23. They were seriously abused by laker bigs, and i think they’re trying to fix that hole now (Cole Aldrich. sp? ,Kristic improve from world tourney, and Ibaka adding weight and improving). Aside from Kobe, the laker guards are outmatched by the guards of OKC. Westbrook at least. Also the experience and of course KD. Now the one who needs to get some major ups this season is Jeff Green, if they want to achieve a higher level of success.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No one else is playing? Ok. Paul Silas.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Chris Paul…see what I did there?

  • wottywo

    Bryan Crawford: And its very difficult for a person to be on this discussion board when they have no idea what they are talking about(does the Olympics ring a bell) or is it just me? I got it, it must just be me.

  • The Philosopher

    Phil Jackson is The G.O.A.T.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Just throwing in some MINOR details, but Chamberlain/West/Baylor never worked cause one of them was always friggin injured every season.

  • wottywo

    But who’s the greatest coach, Phil or Red Auerbach?

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Plus my Suns are gonna knock out the Lakers so it’s all good.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Paul Pressey

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    *looks around* Did someone say my name? Hmmm… Must be my imagination.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Paul Westphal

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Paul Millsap

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    Paul Westphal

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ e.. paul westphal

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Dammit, I couldn’t think of Millsap.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ e.. paul westphal if i remember right.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @E, beat me to the punch…Paul Westhead

  • wottywo

    @Jukai: I’m down with the suns, but when they lost Amare???? I guess I’m saying Turkalogu is a mystery. Maybe you know something I don’t but that’s hard to imagine.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Paul Gaso. Oh, wait…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Paul McPherson

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Paul Shirley!…no? Too soon?

  • wottywo

    Paul Arizin

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Enigmatic wins!

  • JoeMaMa

    I’d love to see yet another remake of a McDonald’s commercial, where it’s Kobe and LeBron playing for a Big Mac. But right before Kobe takes the first shot, SLAM posters run up and kill them both.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Bonus Question: What was the name of Paul Shirley’s book?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ Bryan Crawford hey he strikes again saying that Kobe had 6 rings. First not knowing a players name, then this. Seriously that’s not typo error now.

  • wottywo

    J: actually that was, that one was. Hey Kobe’s a great player but no matter how many rings he wins, Kobe will never be #1(to Micheal Jordan). Simple and plan

  • Dre

    Duh… he didn’t say anything that that nobody knew.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Does Paula Abdul count? lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @J: OK let’s see here… We have “Paul”, the most consistent player on the Lakers. I still don’t know who that is. Then, Kobe has 6 rings. I’m sure he appreciates being the front runner though. And this Micheal Jordan fella? I looked, but the NBA has no record of anyone by that name having played before. But I guess these are “facts”…”simple and plan.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Does Paula Abdul count? lol.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    ^That’s not Jukai on 1:35, that’s me.. cmon slam.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    And who is Turkalogu? wow how many times will i own you.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @Bryan Crawford – “Can I Keep My Jersey?” And yes, I read it a few years back.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    No Pacers fans on here? Paul George?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    lol @ B..

  • wottywo

    @Bryan Crawford Well maybe if I didn’t spend my time trying to explain knowledge to dumbass on four discussion boards, maybe I wouldn’t be committing typing era’s. Damn to many people are stupid. One I have to try and give you and the kobe followers knowledge on who was the best player in he olympics. WHy I have no idea, it should be a open and shut case. Two Im on another board telling ignorant people why Kobe can’t touch MJ in his prime. Three Im on another website explaining why the magic is the mystery team of the east because they didn’t make off season moves. I’m on another website Explaining why Gasol is the Key to the Lakers returning to the finals.

    Now please get off my case, Mr. I seen the olympics.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Anybody know what a “typing era” is? I don’t…

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    None of this matters, spurs will win the title.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ B.C. Yeah me too.

  • wottywo

    @Bryan Crawford: You know what, forget it, you are a waste of time. So sad, I bet you are a lonely person, you need a life badly.

  • wottywo

    Tarzan Cooper: they have the best shot in the west to knock the Lakers out. If the Spurs could somehow get on the Lakers playing field I can see them beat the Lakers. I heard Duncan lost 30 pounds, so they might just do it.

  • Love4Humanity

    Without Kobe, the US team lost in 06. With him, they won in 07 and 08. The team lacked leadership without Kobe. Being the leader doesn’t mean that you have to go out there and score the most points every night. Let’s be honest about the Heat. They are two superstars, a star and a bunch of average and below average role players. The Lakers are a better team from 1-12. The Celtics are also a better team from 1-12. That’s the truth. Can’t deny it.

  • wottywo

    @Love4Humanity: But Coach K got Jason Kidd for leadership, Kobe didn’t do much, I believe they could have won without Kobe.That last game would have been a what if. But Kobe didn’t score much. Kobe was just another fine addition to make the U.S team more powerful.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    “..lost 30 pounds so they might just do it” evidence number 453980…64. wow. just like what Eboy says, maybe school is off early today..

  • Love4Humanity

    @wottywo
    The best player on the Olympics team doesn’t matter. People say it was Wade, others say it was LeBron, others say it was Carmelo. It’s not about who was the best player. Who led the team? Whose personality did the team end up taking on? Who came up big when it was time to win the gold medal? I could care less about stats honestly. It’s easy to boost ones stats in a game. Kobe doesn’t need to average 32, 8, and 8 to still be considered better than LeBron. An example of how stats don’t matter, let’s look at Kobe and MJ. Kobe can win 2 more titles and pass MJ, he still won’t be considered the best to ever play over Mike. Don’t get it twisted, there’s a difference between someone being a Kobe apologist and someone being knowledgable about the game. And as for Kobe and MJ in their primes, let us not forget how electrifying Kobe was just a few seasons ago. It would be a great thing to watch. Michael would probably beat Kobe, but it would be a very close game of one on one. How many other players, past or present, would be able to hang with Mike? One. His name is Kobe Bryant.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    …………….

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Rupaul (Chris Bosh). Does that count as one?

  • Alex S

    A lot of people read this article but ignored his last comment. He is saying that Miami has a lot of talent but that that does not guarantee a title. Here’s his last comment:”The team that shows the best teamwork will win it. We think that (the Lakers) have established something. But, if (the Heat) can unite — and build quickly — they might be able to do it.” He is saying that the Heat could do it. He’s not saying they will never do it. He didn’t say I have won championships without talented people. I don’t really see anything wrong with his comments.

  • wottywo

    Love4Humanity : You need help bro, for one the reason Kobe will not be able to past MJ is because he never transformed the NBA and made it more exciting. Everyone plays like MJ. You look at overall play when it comes to the playoffs and the olympics. One game doesn’t define what you are about, I’m sorry but it doesn’t. For both of them in their prime. I had to answer this on another website also. If you take MJ out of his era and you brought him in the NBA the same time Kobe came into the league, Kobe adopted MJs playing style. With Mj not in his original area, that new style that was invented doesn’t exist. Get it? SO In 1996 nobody has seen MJ play pro ball.Nor is anyone familiar with the way MJ changed the game. So what would happen? (DUH) You know the answer.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I didn’t even know Tim Duncan was overweight.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    That last comment by the prepubescent teen made absolutely NO sense.

  • wottywo

    J: I don’t even want to get in it with you because you are a waste of time to fuss at. Anyway yes I do believe that if Duncan comes back strong, you and many of use might get shocked at what would happen. It doesn’t strike you as odd that maybe that hasn’t been Duncan’s best basketball we have seen the past couple of years?
    Don’t forget( but you Kobe fans do)The spurs where the only team to give the Lakers hell before the Lakers won 3 in a row. Don’t forget that class. A healthy Ginobili ,Parker, and Duncan is any teams nightmare.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Duncan losing 30 pounds doesn’t sound like a good thing at all, and I’ve yet to read an intelligible post by wottywhatever.

  • unrel

    @Eboy.. i didn’t read through all 150+ posts.. but your first comment is calling phil scared.. then a few posts later.. you’re talking about the pistons not having talent against the lakers in 2004.. if you’re talking about the pistons not having a lot of talent compared to the lakers with 4 HOF’ers.. then you agree with PJ that team game holds more weight than talent-loaded teams… if this was already pointed out and addressed.. then just ignore me..

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    “Don’t forget( but you Kobe fans do)The spurs where the only team to give the Lakers hell before the Lakers won 3 in a row. Don’t forget that class.” HA HA! OK, that was over a decade ago. The only player remaining from those Spurs teams is Duncan. You know, the Knicks used to give the Heat hell around that time too, so I guess LeBron, Wade, Bosh and company should be fearing Amare and ‘em too huh?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    when did i became a kobe fan?.. Anyway wottywo I own you.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Anyway.. Everyone feel free to own wottywo, the 12 year old makes no sense..

  • unrel

    this is starting to feel like the Hypebeast forums..

  • wottywo

    @Bryan Crawford: Let me try this again for the slow learners. Try to keep up Crawford. Kobe’s game is based off of MJ’s right? No Crawford? Let me know if I’M wrong, please Crawford. Can I continue? SO since Kobe’s games is based off of MJ’s. If you take MJ from his Draft class of 1984 and put him in Kobe’s Draft Class of 1996 oh wait, Crawford has something to say, my bad, let me check my spelling. Oh my bad, J has something to add also. Guys I promise I checked my spelling, can I go on? Ok If they both got drafted at the same time, Kobe’s game that he adopted wouldn’t exist. MJ’s basketball game(Or moves and skills for the slow learners) changed the game of basketball. MJ mixed his moves up, and also made the fall away jumper his go to move that basically sealed him as the number one legend in the game. Almost every move you see from Kobe, Its a adoption(or borrowed) move from MJ. Ok I have to go even slower for Crawford and J. MJ wasn’t the first person in the NBA, but he took moves of other players and revolutionized them in a way that changed the way people looked at the NBA. Don’t forget about the famous in the air switch. My bad, I guess Crawford want’s me to look that up for him. And yes, Duncan lost 30 pounds, all you have to do is look it up Crawford, if your not to slow and know how.

  • wottywo

    Enigmatic : Thats not my point. My point is the Spurs have won NBA titles. And their last title wasn’t to long ago. And it wasn’t just Duncan, don’t forget Parker and don’t forget Mano. Dog the Lakers won a couple of titles and Kobe fans forget about the team that won a title before Kobe and Shaq era. I feel sorry for you guys.

  • Love4Humanity

    @wottywo
    Kobe’s game is based off of the legends who played before him. Not just MJ. MJ’s game was based on Dr. J and those who came before him also. Kobe’s shot, whether he got it from MJ or not, is unstoppable just like MJ’s was (Game 6 against the Suns). Why wouldn’t one sample it? You’re the one who needs help. If anyone’s slow around here, it’s you. If you want to talk badly about players who borrowed from MJ, you’re going to be hard pressed to find one player who didn’t take something from watching MJ play. If there was no MJ, a lot of players that are now playing would not be here.

  • http://brimartin13@gmail.com Brion

    Paul Wall

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Does anyone understand the point the prepubescent teen is trying to make. Anyone?…Anyone?…

  • Klav

    Bryan Crawford, Eboy and J shut this thread down for various comments. Damn, didn’t know certain people could be such bad spellers. You would figure being on four different sites that you would be able to learn how to type efficiently by now. Paul Gasol, Micheal Jordan, 6 rings, typing era, Turkalogu? Is there any reason Hooked on phonics won’t help, it sure helped my slow ass cousin.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Geez you’re right, I wouldn’t want to forget Mano…whoever that is. Yes, we’re all aware the Spurs have won titles, and their latest came in 2007, but your reasoning that the Spurs are a threat to win it all in 2011 is because they won a championship back in 1999 makes absolutely no sense. Seriously, check your comments, you’ve touched on it twice. First you said, “The spurs where the only team to give the Lakers hell before the Lakers won 3 in a row” and then you dropped this gem, “Dog the Lakers won a couple of titles and Kobe fans forget about the team that won a title before Kobe and Shaq era”. You mean the team with Duncan, David Robinson, Mario Elie, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and them cats? The Bulls won six titles before the “Kobe & Shaq era” so as a Bulls fan, guess I should break out the champagne glasses and muthaf*ckin condoms (have one on us, aight?) cause we might win it all next year based on your reasoning.

  • wottywo

    @Love4Humanity: Man if you would hush, and think about what you wrote, that’s what i wrote. The players(Even KOBE) today base their games off of MJ. MJ took other moves from other players and created his own version. What’s so hard to understand about that? Simple right?

    But what happens if MJ didn’t come into the league until 1996? The style that every player adopted wouldn’t exist. So the only person who would have that mindset and those skills to revolutionize the league would be MJ. Do you get? Kobe doesn’t base his game off of other players. The man said it himself, HIS GAME IS BASED OFF MJ. Except it and move on.

  • http://slamonline.com nikehead23

    wottywo…just stop posting, im embarassed for you…its sad that you probably consider yourself a a knowledgeable fan… did anybody get RuPaul Pierce??

  • Rasta

    Paul Stanley w shorter hair and w/o make-up who played sporatically but still was the cause of LA’s post shaq rise. All that after makin sweet love to all his women before every game!!!

  • wottywo

    @Enigmatic: Man for real, you guys are harder to talk to then my brothers, I swear to god. I’m saying the Spurs are getting better each year. Their doing it slowly by adding pieces,and for some reason nobody’s paying attention. DO you get it? I hope you do. The Lakers hasn’t made any serious changes in the past couple of years, the Spurs have. There’s one rule everyone needs to learn. Once a threat, always a threat.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    No serious changes the past couple of years??? Shannon Brown, Ron Artest, Matt Barnes, Steve Blake and Derrick Caracter???

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m sure the prepubescent teen’s brother’s are older. They probably clown him to. Like: “What the f**k are you talking about you dumb lil’ sh*t! Isn’t Spongebob on or something?”

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The Spurs have??? Who the heck did they sign besides Splitter who looked like Oberto 2.0 agst the US?

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    There was an entire NBA Playoff half time special devoted to Kobe going over video of all the legends that he based his game off of. Such as Magic, Bird West, Big-O, Elgin, Hakeem, MJ. Is it supposed to be a dig on Kobe that he emulated some of his game on Jordan’s? If so, I don’t see that as a bad thing. Let’s not get into a MJ/Kobe debate, but I think most of Mamba’s detractors don’t give his game and accomplishments enough weight. He is top 10. All-time. That’s all that matters.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    This is stupid. No sh1t teamwork > talent. And there is a difference between those lakers (wilt/west/baylor) and it’s called a 3pt line.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Wotty – You can’t seriously say the Lakers haven’t made any moved the past couple of years. Trading for Pau in ’08 was HUGE. Last year they added Ron Artest. This summer Lakers have added Steve Blake, Matt Barnes, They’re bringing Phil back. Their two rookies, Devin Ebanks (who could’ve gone in the lottery based on potential) and Derrick Caracter are promising. I’m not a Lakers fan, but they haven’t sat idly by and done nothing. Yes, the Spurs are perennial contenders. Yes, the Spurs have picked up some solid pieces. I love Dajuan Blair and I think James Anderson is gonna be solid. George Hill is dope. But come on now, they’re not the only team that has been picking up solid pieces.

  • The Philosopher

    @wottywo:
    You’ve stated in earlier posts that if there is no M.J., the style of play that Michael “invented” would not exist, correct?
    Now, are you saying that guys today would not adopted a form or style from other players before Jordan?
    Such as Clyde Drexler, David Thompson, Julius Erving, Cornelius Thompson, Elgin Baylor, Dominique Wilkins?
    Kobe actually has a little of all of those players in them.
    Michael did, also.
    None of those players’ styles would have been adopted by newer players?
    Even though Michael adopted from their styles?

  • Miamibandwagoner

    hahaha miami 12 y/o bandwagoners are already mad that Phil has more Rings than Lebron/Shaq/Duncan/Wade/Bosh combined

    hahaah chinks

  • Love4Humanity

    His game is based off of others besides MJ. Do your research. This past season, Kobe sat down with someone (I can’t remember who) from ESPN and watched footage of legends and specifically said what he took from them. It wasn’t all MJ footage. It was Oscar Robertson. Magic Johnson. And others. So, let me get you straight since you think you are the almighty king of basketball knowledge with this topic. All the what ifs do not matter. So the what if MJ would have been in the 96 draft point that you have been making is irrelevant. The facts are that MJ set a standard that everyone who is playing now is going for. Kobe just happens to be the most skilled player and the one who is closest to MJ and his greatness. But to say that Kobe is just a MJ copy is a false statement to make. Also, the Spurs are not getting better each year. Tony Parker lost some playing time to George Hill last season and may have one foot out of the door and off to New York if he loses more playing time this season. Duncan even with the weight loss is still a year older than he was last year. Those knees don’t just go back to 100% after 10 plus years in the league. Roger Mason Jr. is gone. Keith Bogans is gone. Their biggest addition is a player from Brazil that Coach Pop says will be more of a rebounder/defender than a scorer. So how is that getting better? If you want to talk about a team that is getting better every year, it’s the Thunder. The Rockets are better also. The Spurs…not so much. The Lakers have added Ron Artest, Matt Barnes, Theo Ratliff, and Steve Blake in the past few years and you say they haven’t made any big change?. The Spurs add a player that they drafted a few years ago…??? Give up now.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Spurs are the third best team in their division and maybe fourth if Memphis lives up to its potential. I don’t trust the aging Duncan and oft injured Ginobili anymore after that Phoenix series.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I think Bryan C’s onto something. I can see Wotty as a 16 year-old kid getting punked by his twenty-something year-old brothers. It’s ok, my 16 year old baby bro tries to argue basketball with me too. And I shut his ass down too.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    The Lakers have gotten better every year since they missed the playoffs.

  • The Philosopher

    My bad for the typos.
    Y’all know what I’m saying.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I’m glad he’s not arguing with Allenp because it would of been even nastier.

  • Klav

    Philosopher nailed the coffin shut. Let’s move to the next thread.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    can paul mooney play basketball?

  • Brian

    Paul Mokeski

  • bdub

    @wootywoo quit now please. It’s getting ugly. It’s the twelfth round you have been knocked down ten times, yet you keep getting up. Sucker for punishment……………………metaphorically you look like one of Mike Tyson’s late 80’s knockout victims.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    White people love wayne brady because……….Wayne brady makes bryant gumbel look like malcolm x. Im sad that some lil buttnugget tried to prove my point about the spurs. That kid couldnt prove that dogs bark. Anyways, timmy lost 15, hes in great shape, manu and tony rested and recovered, theyre ready. Pop personally trained jefferson this summer so you know he will be ready. Tiago arrived, just what they need a 7 footer that can play d, board and score some. George hill is better, blair too. Throw in james anderson, and its a very deep talented, balanced team. they will win the title.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Bdub, nice try, but iron mike was droppin fools in the first round. Nobody went more than a couple rounds against that mike. 90s don king era mike is a different story

  • JTaylor21

    Here’s what everyone NEEDS to know; DWade vs Kobe is a tie, Bron vs Arterst; bron’s way BETTER, Gasol vs Bosh; Gasol by a hair, ABynum is probably going to get hurt anyways, Fisher vs Chalmers; fisher in a close one, PJax vs Erik; Jax wins, LA bench vs Mia bench; close but LA, and the X Factor- The Dapper Don puts the Heat over the top. At the end of the day; Wade/Bosh/Bron are better than Kobe/Artest/Pau. Also someone named Crawfish is reeking of stupidity and shame.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    The matchup LA vs MIA will come down go matchups and how the coaches react. For instance what does LA do against a wade miller bron bosh big z. Mia teamwork likely won’t be an issue wade is the most “selfish” and he really isn’t that selfish. Unless he’s in “this is my house” mode then it doesn’t matter haha

  • MikeC.

    Wow….wootlywhop or whatever…just wow. This thread has been so awesome. I had a really crappy day at work and this absolutely made my day. Your comments are so ridiculous. I really, truly needed a good laugh. Thank you so much for existing. Please keep posting.

  • MikeC.

    I blame Lebron for all of this.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kap
    Nah, I wouldn’t take shots at dude for messing up with his spelling considering all the spelling and grammatical errors my posts have contained. I hate checking my stuff before I hit submit.
    I agree that Wade and Bron were the two best players in the Olympics.
    I agree that Kobe built his game based on Jordan, although I think this hypothetical theory about what would happen if Mike had been drafted in 1996 is weird and confusing. It’s unlikely that Kobe will ever be considered as better than Jordan by most fans, but in 20 years, people might see things differently.
    I think the Lakers are clear and away the class of the West and the Spurs top guns are all getting older and injury prone. Plus, once Duncan goes, the whole team goes. Besides, it doesn’t matter how much weight Duncan loses, he’ll still be on the downslope of his career and Manu will be injury prone. Only if George Hill, Blair and Tiago make massive leaps do the Spurs contend.
    I understand the urge to tell people their comments are stupid, I know I’ve been guilty of it, but I would implore everybody to refrain from lobbing insults and putdowns. It just lessens the conversation.

  • bdub

    @Tarzan
    The Tyson Reference was used to show how beaten up he ‘figuratively’ looks. Ye Mike Tyson fights never went long back then. Probably should have used another example after my original statement.

    Maybe he looks like one opf David Tuas sparring partners?

  • bdub

    @Allenp. I agree on the mocking of comments. But it must of been hard to resist when on multiple posts he spelt Pau’s name wrong. It definately wasn’t a typo.

  • MikeC.

    @bdub – maybe wootlydoop is a Griz fan. Pau sure had lots of L’s back then.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    AllenP for president!

  • Love4Humanity

    @JTaylor, you decided as soon as LeBron and Bosh signed with Miami that they were going to win. You jumped on the bandwagon. The Lakers are the best team. Fisher is head and shoulders above Chalmers. Too wise. Too strong. Kobe is above Wade. He has more experience. He’s wiser. Knows more about the game. More clever. A better skilled basketball player. LeBron is better than Ron Artest but all Ron needs to do is make it hard for LeBron to play his game which he is capable of doing. Gasol is three inches taller than Bosh and with his wingspan, add a couple more inches. Plus his skill level is above Bosh. Big Z is way too slow to guard anyone on the court. Bynum just needs to be healthy for the playoffs which he will be if Phil holds back his minutes a little bit during the regular season. They have no answer for Lamar Odom. Steve Blake is an upgrade from Farmar. Theo Ratliff is an upgrade from DJ Mbenga. He can still block and alter shots. Matt Barnes can come in and annoy Wade or LeBron. Shannon Brown is the most athletic player on either team. Overall, they’re too tall, too skilled for the Heat. If anyone is going to give the Lakers problems, it’s the Celtics.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Yeah, Allenp is definitely on his Obama right now…but I’ve been on my Bin Laden all day!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Love4Humanity: It’s very hard to reason with those who ride short buses…with helmets…while licking the glass. Good luck with that. I will warn you however that if you make him mad enough, he’ll take the good hand that he types with and use the joystick on his motorized chair to try and run you over. So be careful.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Love4
    You forgot about Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem.
    First, Kobe and Wade are pretty much equal in a seven game series. Yes, Kobe might be a better player than Wade overall, but the gap is not wide enough to be a serious advantage in a seven game series. Plus, with Kobe having to guard Wade he cannot rest on defense like he did in last year’s playoffs, and will be forced to seriously, SERIOUSLY work every second of every game. You can’t hide Kobe on Chalmers and let Fisher take Wade. that’s suicide.
    Bosh and Gasol is basically a draw. Bosh’s game would force either Pau or Bynum away from the basket, or they can watch him rain jumpers on their head. Bosh is a legit 22 and 10 guy.
    Not only would Bron make Artest work on defense, but he could potentially nullify Artest completely as an offensive option, a huge loss for the Lakers.
    Miller spreads the floor, makes good decisions. Haslem outworks and outclutches Odom. Bynum is a clear advantage for the Lakers, unless the Heat sign dampier.
    Bottom line, the Lakers would have all they could handle trying to beat the Heat, and the Eastern Conference playoffs should be freaking epic.

  • Hurricane

    EBOY IS A RETARD!!!!
    -
    KOBE WAS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE 08 OLYMPIC TEAM, EVERYBODY KNOWS DAMN WELL PAU GASOL WOULD HAVE A GOLD MEDAL AROUND HIS NECK IF IT WASN’T FOR KOBE TAKING OVER, KOBE WAS THE MOST CONSISTANT & THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM, JUST BECAUSE WADE AVERAGED MORE POINTS DOESN’T MEAN HE IS BETTER
    -
    GO BACK & WATCH THE GAMES, KOBE WAS THE BEST PLAYER
    -
    FOR THOSE WHO ARE SAYING PAU GASOL WON KOBE 2 RINGS…HOW MANY PLAYOFF GAMES DID GASOL WIN BEFORE PLAYING WITH KOBE…EXACTLY YOU RETARDS
    -
    KOBE IS THE BEST EVER, GET OVER IT!!!!
    -
    EBOY, HOW DOES IT FEEL KNOWING THAT ADAM MORRISON HAS MORE RINGS THAN LEBRON???? AND ALWAYS WILL!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • JTaylor21

    Okay sure, Bron dropped 37/11 last year when Artest was “making it hard” for him, sure Kobe has the foot speed to stay in front of one of the best slasher and athletes in the game CHILD PLEASE. So now Gasol is 7’1, damn did dude grow a few inches in the offseason. Gasol is not that much better than Bosh, it’s actually a lot closer than people think. All I’m saying is that the Heat Top 3 players are better than the Lakers Top 3, simple as that.

  • erich

    Hey Wallyworld…or whatever your name is.
    If I understand you right Michael Jordan invented Basketball the way it is played today.
    Don’t you understand that there have been many players before michael that inspired him and influenced the game.
    Maybe you should read something about players from the pre jordan era ( Dr. J, Bird, Magic, Oscar, West, Chamberlain ), so that you are able to understand why nobody gets your point.
    I don’t like Kobe. I never have.
    But he is building his legend like few did before him.

  • JTaylor21

    I know that this OLD GIZZARD isn’t talking about someone riding in a motorized chair. You’re the grandfather of that b*tch in the hoveround Grand Canyon commercial, Not afraid to see the world, huh. I wonder how much royalties you still get from that commercial. Someone needs to act their age, problem is if you did that, you be dead.

  • Love4Humanity

    JTaylor, actually, it’s 2-1. Simple as that. Kobe is better than Wade. Gasol is better than Bosh. LeBron is better than Artest. Wade can slash all he wants, at the rim will be Odom, Gasol and Bynum. Kobe slashes and who’s at the rim? Big Z? Jamaal Magloire??? Gasol is 7’0 if not 7’1. Bosh is 6’10.
    Allenp, Kobe will be as healthy as he has been in a few seasons so he will be ready to guard Wade. No need to “hide” him and let Fisher guard Wade. LeBron’s not a lockdown defender. His best defensive asset is blocking shots from behind. So he won’t be able to nullify Ron Artest. Haslem won’t be able to shoot over Lamar. Lamar will tire him out as he tries to guard him. The Celtics are a better matchup for the Lakers, not the Heat. All of these things will come to pass if the Heat make it to the Finals where the Lakers will be waiting.

  • Jake

    Anyone who has more championships than Phil Jackson deserves to criticize his comments.The rest of us have no idea what we’re talking about.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Idiots.

  • JTaylor21

    Oh yeah he won’t stop an average offensive player like Artest but STOPPED a great offensive player like PP, sure your comment makes “perfect” sense. Also you act like kobe’s a great slasher when was the last time you seen dude take it to hole with authority instead of throwing up wild shots hoping that it miraculously goes in. Dude is gradually losing his athletic ability and it will only get worse this year. Kobe can NOT guard DWade if he could not shutdown Rondo what makes you think he could slow down a great scorer like Wade. The Lakers are NOT unstoppable and an older Kobe makes them beatable.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Love4
    Ask Paul Pierce about Lebron as a lockdown defender.
    If I remember correctly, Pierce had one of his worst playoff series as a pro with Lebron guarding him, didn’t he?
    The same Pierce that freaking TORCHED Kobe in 2008? To the point where Phil put Kobe on Rondo?
    Am I missing something?
    Haslem locked up Dirk. I think he can handle Lamar Odom.
    If you think the Lakers are sagging off of Lebron, Bosh and Miller to stop Wade from driving, then you’re saying they are prepared to concede wide open three pointers to bron, Mike Miller and jumpers to BOsh. And that’s an L waiting to happen.
    But, it’s all conjecture at this point. I just think folks who say definitively that the Lakers have nothing to worry about from the Heat are full of it.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I told you guys that someone here was RETARDED. See, the last time I checked, a “gizzard” is a part of the chicken that people eat, usually found in grocery stores. And the proper use of the insult that people throw at the elderly is “old geezer.” I can’t imagine what being a retard must feel like, but clearly it’s debilitating. Eli Porter, is that you? When is that album dropping, son?

  • Love4Humanity

    Point blank, a healthier Kobe is why the Heat and the Celtics made the moves they made. Kobe will be better than he has been the past two seasons. If any team is scary, it’s the Lakers. LeBron had to make a decision and make himself one of the most hated guys in sports because he wants what Kobe has. Carmelo is about to screw over the Denver Nuggets because he wants what Kobe has. Dwyane Wade wants what Kobe has. The Lakers are the class of the league and will be until they lose the title…which won’t happen this season.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    * this thread was amazing to wake up to this morning *
    I’d like to thank Bryan Crawford, Eboy, J and our newest contributor( ? ) Wottywo….. oh and a shout out to Paul Gasol (brother to Mark “Krib” Gasol btw) he’s going to tear up the league this year with that extra consonant.

  • JTaylor21

    The last time you checked was when Moses went up the mountain to get the commandments. When you hear “make it rain” you probably have flashbacks of what it was like when God sent the great flood to destroy the earth, you have Noah to thank for keeping your monkey a** alive till this day

  • MikeC.

    @ Enigmatic – no. Eric B for president.

  • Love4Humanity

    People can just zone up and tell LeBron and Dwyane to make outside shots….it’s really that easy to defend them.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    If someone here thinks I really am that old, that would mean I know more about, well everything, than Special Ed over here. Don’t you need to get suctioned or go to physical therapy or something?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Clearly you have not watched Wade or Lebron play in several years.
    Wade, without question, is one of the most dangerous guards int he league from mid range. Lebron’s shot is greatly improved.
    You’re just making stuff up now.
    Any team that allows Wade and Lebron to shoot open jumpers will lose.
    Any team that does not commit to preventing Wade and Lebron from getting layups, will lose.
    Thus, the problem.
    How do you stop Wade and Lebron from getting to the rim, and prevent them from getting open jumpers.
    But, like I said, we shall see.

  • JTaylor21

    SURE it’s that easy to defend guys who have won scoring titles, MVPs, are both in the top-15 all-time scoring average, are GREAT passers with a F*CKING zone, HAA HAAA. Wasn’t someone having an argument with a MORON about how zone is OVERRATED, the same zone that GREAT defensive teams NEVER EVER use. Ohh the big bad zone is coming, hide your wife and kids.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @MikeC – no, it’s Eric B. IS President. Dope album, but I prefer Paid in Full.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to Delaney Rudd.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    RIIIGHT, like Phil Jackson hasn’t coached THE BEST TALENT IN THE NBA HIS ENTIRE COACHING CAREER.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Damn I’m an idiot. It’s a song of fthe Paid in Full albume, not its own album. If it wasn’t for my stupid job I could concentrate more on my Slam comments! LOL

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I use to roll up / this is a hold up / ain’t nuthin’ funny stop smiling / still don’t nothing move but the MONEY! / But now I learned to earn ’cause I’m righteous–I feel great, so maybe I might just / SEARCH for a 9 to 5! / ‘Cause if I strive, / then maybe I’ll stay alive!

  • JTaylor21

    Isn’t it lights out time in the nursing home already, you better go to sleep before the nurse catches you and makes you eat food without a straw.

  • the Danker Nuggets

    Alright so maybe the Miami Heat now have the most talented team in the L, but it’s obvious to me why the Lakers are a dynasty right now and will probably beat the Heat in the Championship next year: they have assembled the perfect team. First you have a solid PG that’s willing to share the rock and can knock down the open shot, then on one wing they have the best inside out scorer and finisher and who happens to also be an elite defender, on the other wing they have one of the other top defenders in the league who can get buckets when he needs to, then they balance their perfect perimeter with maybe an even more perfect 3 man rotation of bigs, all topping 7 feet with a great low post game and two of which can play both PF and Center, to top it all off they have a very good nucleus of young explosive players who can bring lots of energy off the bench.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Man, I been dropping napalm on cats today to the point that they can’t even recover. They have to resort to comebacks that aren’t even funny. I guess I’m done here. I’ve murdered two people already. I’ll send flowers. On second thought, no I won’t. Eff ‘em all.

  • Love4Humanity

    How do you stop Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Bynum and Fisher? The Heat don’t have the answer. The Lakers have Phil Jackson who is a much better coach that Spoelstra. LeBron still is not a consistent 3 point shooter, that’s not making up stuff…it’s the truth. Wade isn’t a consistent 3 point shooter. They’re strengths are getting to the basket. Once again, if they do manage to get to the basket, they will have a tough time consistently finishing over the Celtics and Lakers big guys. That’s just the truth. I tell you what, this Heat love fest is pretty funny.
    @Danker Nuggets you’re correct.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn when did kobe become an elite defender, must have missed that train. There’s only one GREAT defender on the Lakers, Kobe’s being overrated as a defender for the past 5 years; ask Agent Zero (he’s a very GOOD defender but not the great defender everyone claims), Gasol/Bynum aren’t and never will be great defenders, they are just long. Well we all know that every PG jumps for joy when they see the Lakers on their schedule. LA plays good D but athletic, quick lineups gives them MAJOR problems like the Thunder and Suns last year.

  • the nerve

    hey crawford, you been mad for a couple days now.
    baby keeping you up all night?
    wife blaming you for everything that’s wrong in the world?
    its part of the game shooter.

  • Love4Humanity

    @JTaylor Kobe’s made the All Defensive team multiple times…what in the world are you talking about? Do you know more than those who voted for him? Doubt it.

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5493184 Jackie Moon

    Pau Gasol must be so pissed he has to carry all that dead, overrated weight known as Kobe Bryant. In fact, if you asked him, he’d probably tell you how much he hates playing with Kobe, and how he (Pau)is really the most valuable player on the Lakers.

  • JTaylor21

    It would be a wise decision on your part to keep those flowers bcuz you will be needing them any day now. You are truly the definition of “dead man walking”, a coffin and pallbearers should be following your every move.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    “the nerve” of some people… They should’ve been swallowed instead of being born. We’d all be better off.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Love4Humanity: And uh, why do you assume Kobe will be healthy this season if he hasn’t been for the last two seasons?

  • A

    What happened to Delonte West? If he doesn’t get picked up by another team. He for sure did the nasty deed

  • the nerve

    yeah, i know what time it is partna’.
    you need to chill. it aint dat serious dude.
    sounding all miserable n sh*t. takin’ it out on punks on the threads. you aint own nobody either.
    keep yo sh*t in your pants if you cant handle it.
    In the meantime, man up and stop being a punk ass little kid.
    these cats respect you up here man. sound like you got hostility towards shat other than clowns on the comment section.

  • JTaylor21

    No, taxpayers would be better off if you just kick the bucket already, DAMN you done used up the equivalent of what a 100 people would use in Social Security money with how long you’ve been alive. I guess that some people just don’t know when to let go.

  • Byebye

    I remember fill jaxon getting fired cuz they couldn’t win in the playoffs with mediocre talent but all of a sudden they get pau gasol they had great teamwork give me a break

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @the nerve: Nah, you got it twisted, bro. I’m good. Not mad or miserable about a thing. Life is great on my end. And I’m cool with the back-and-forth, on here. No big deal. Happens all the time, so it is what it is. But you bring my fam into it, then it becomes personal. So if you really know what time it is…stay in your lane.

  • the nerve

    You not mad or miserable? pshhh!
    then ACT LIKE IT!
    I’m bringing your fam into it? You tell people sh*t a million times more personal n hateful than my QUESTION i asked you. Cant even take a question? You dat good? Damn I need to learn from you then since you da professional n whatEVA.
    GTFOH

  • JTaylor21

    The Grim Reaper knows what “time it is”, time for your old a** to get into that coffin. He’s says that he’s NOT going to wait another 50 years for you again, he has places to go, babies to kiss, and bass to fish.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Is that right? If I go at cats on here, I go at THEM. I don’t talk about momma’s, daddy’s, sister’s, grandmother’s, none of that. That’s not how I get down. And I understand it was a question, but the subjects of said question were completely out of bounds. You got something to say to me or about me, then do that. Anything else is personal and you’re out of order my man.

  • the nerve

    HEY y’all Bryan Crawford is Jesus, now. Dont ask that man NOTHIN’! HES TOO GOOD to ask a question to. gloatin’ like he “murdered 2 people. You aint murda sh.t. I DONT BELIEVE YOU MURDAAA!!
    Then gonna threaten me. what, you gonna come to my house and break my legs? I’ll give you my email. then i’ll give you my home address.
    Oh no, big bad Crawford gonna come beat me up!!
    Insecure ass. Prolly got a little d*** whos overweight and pissed becuz of it.

  • Blackphantom

    Phil is exactly right, every single time a team has won a ring in the NBA, teamwork was a part of it

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Ha! Threaten you? If you feel threatened by being told to leave my fam out of it or me saying you’re out of order, then the insecurity is your problem, not mine. Maybe you need to “man up.” Oh, and to your last sentence…PAUSE.

  • the nerve

    So since u “go at THEM” u better? That make you betta? PLEASE. NOW u wanna talk rules and regulations.
    I’ll chill, but you need to stay in ur lane too. Just cuz u on Slam dont mean what u do is right, and everything everybody else that YOU say is wrong is wrong, U NOT dat good and that is a popular opinion man. Go check yo’self. Take a drink. Take a toke or sumthin’.
    and I’m kickin’ your @ss up here right now

  • JTaylor21

    AW man, someone just made my day. Be careful though before he sends his hoveround driving, pacemaker packing, cane wielding goons to your front door.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Aiight, bro. If you say so. You’re right, you kickin’ my @ss, right now. You win. Happy now? Mission accomplished. BTW – popular opinion amongst commenters about me not being “dat good” doesn’t keep me up at night. I consider myself checked.

  • the nerve

    “IF uyou really know what time it is, stay in your lane.” OR ELSE WHAT???!!!
    WOW, they gonna ban me from Slam!!! Pshhhh!!!
    Dat aint no threat? you tryin to clean up sh*t now? Like i said its cool. You aint gotta worry about me talkin too much. I dont be up here like that. every time i’m up here though you tryin to clown somebody. then YOU get herbed, and get mad. THATS INSECURITY in itself. You aint ready fo me daddy. stick to your job as a writer for Slam. You decent at that.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Like I said, bro. Stay in your lane. I write for SLAM, you comment. That’s the order of things. You should be able to find your place pretty easily with those directions.

  • the nerve

    aint nobody said that THAT keep you up all night. I already told you what keep you up at night. Tryin to switch up sh.t. again.
    I see you. Everybody else see you too. You aint that one cat that got some sense and everybody else aint got none.
    You right though. my work is done here.
    Sleep tight.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I will. In a minute…

  • the nerve

    and i dont CARE what yall say about jtaylor 21.
    he got heart.
    peace.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I just love keyboard thugs…especially the ones that feel the need to play Robin Hood and come to the rescue of other keyboard thugs. Like I said, “the nerve” of some people.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Ummm…Paul Davis?

  • JTaylor21

    Speaking of heart, didn’t I spot ^dude on the black market bidding on a heart. Looks like that ancient device you call a pacemaker isn’t working so well, don’t stress though at your age death is literally around EVERY corner.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Man, if somebody here needs outside help to deal with me, that means that individual isn’t even worth my time. I’d rather talk to your “boss.”

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    ELI PORTER!!

  • JTaylor21

    Get to talking then old perv, talk slowly though because we wouldn’t want your blood pressure rising.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I have been thouroughly amused.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Me too eboy.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    As have I. This was better than yesterday’s. Today, one commenter swooped in like Superman to save another commenter (who sat in the background and stayed silent while me and his hero chopped it up) and once Superman flew away to save a cat from a burning orphanage or whatever, the commenter who got “saved” starts talking crap again. So if I were this person, I’d really shut-up because I’ve NEVER seen something like that happen before which ultimately made this guy look like a (fill in a derogatory female adjective here).

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Bryan Crawford back to his arrogant, Mr.Know-it all, ‘my opinion about bball is better than yours because I write on SLAM and you comment, all-knowing, wannabe-tough guy, entitled yet get offended like a teenage girl act. Instead of ‘murdering’ people on here, gloating about it, and hollering about his manhood like he was Tarzan Bryan should go shine that cool ‘BC’ logo on his Twitter profile it still looks really really fresh… The fact that Bryan have some bball knowledge (still not a heavyweight) can’t camouflage the fact that he is a conceited Ahole with a ego the size James Donaldson’s head. SLAM you are better than this.

  • http://Www.dimemag.com Royal

    How can you tell someone has heart over the Internet……F Bryan Crawford!!! Does that really make me have heart or does that just make me an Internet thug ? (no offense to Bryan or JT of course)

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Wow, an Lz sighting! My haters are coming from everywhere now. And I don’t know who James Donaldson is, but he must have pret-ty big head.

  • the nerve

    see what i mean? INSECURE! dude dont want none of me and now he tryin to clown somebody else. You aint no bully, and NO. YOU NEVER SAID U WAS A BULLY! (kill dat sh1t early)
    i aint tryin to be superman. i am not QUALIFIED ( a term YOU use boastfully) to save nobody. i aint God.
    lets keep this between me and you. i dont come up here that much. but when i do, you cryin. save dat nonsense for catz other than me. and 4 othre cats w/ sense.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Wow…Superman Returns! Just like in the movies. With his super-hearing he must’ve heard me typing something that was “a million times more personal and hateful.” Come on, fam… You didn’t really think you said or did anything that was actually gonna shut me up did you? If you did, shame on you! The blind leading the blind or the misguided saving the misguided. It’s all the same to me, bro. No bueno.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Doesn’t know James Donaldson… Like I said no heavyweight…

  • the nerve

    You dont know who james donaldson is and you tryin to crack jokes? GTFOH!!!
    LET ME FIND OUT THAT IM STEALING YOUR CREDIBILITY 2NITE!!! donaldson of the mavericks???!! DO yall see this SH.+?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    But thanks to you Lz, I know he has a ginormous dome now. ‘Preciate that.

  • http://www.manutd.com t-money

    bryan crawford talking about keyboard thugs… the irony. writing for slam is not what it used to be. there’s about 50 blogs in here.

  • the nerve

    And I aint tryin 2 shut u up either. Who do you think you are? You want me to come back. i respect that. and dont nobody hate u. your ass is just being called out right now and u have a problem w/ dat. like i keep tellin you its cool partna.

  • the nerve

    but i dont know what your thing is lately. you really up here actin like this whole thing is about you when its not. Get ur priorities in order. and if u wuz bullsh!ttin about not knowin who donaldson is then i”ll give u some slack. but it seem like u dont even know who that is. how can u try 2 clown somebody and call urself a professional. HYPOCRISY!!!

  • Love4Humanity

    @Jukai
    Kobe finally had surgery on his knee and he’s had time to rest for a second straight off season. So naturally, he will be healthier than he has been in a while.
    @ Those who are going at Bryan Crawford
    This should have never gotten personal. Bryan writes for SLAM. We come on here to comment. Most of the people who comment here already have agendas before they decide to type something. But let’s leave the personal stuff alone. It’s just about basketball. Let’s keep things in the proper perspective. We can come here and disagree on basketball matters, but let’s keep it respectful.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    “the nerve” of some people who think they can steal my credibility. Being “called out” by nobody’s is hardly bothering me. Can’t you tell, bro? I’m winning. The fact that all of you guys keep coming back to engage with me is proof of that.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    For the record, I do know who James Donaldson is. That was a joke. Come on now. I know y’all don’t like me, but give me some credit, jeez…

  • MikeC.

    “@MikeC – no, it’s Eric B. IS President. Dope album, but I prefer Paid in Full. ” – thanks for the refresher. It’s been awhile. I was referencing Phife Diggy’s line “my favorite jam back in the day was Eric B for President”. So many memories made hazy by time and booze. I will now be loading my SD card up with classic Eric B & Rakim as well as Tribe. Excellent walks to work are in my future.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    A joke? Now that was a joke. Reading your yet again arrogant replies it was clear you didn’t have a clue who Donaldson was. But I guess if you believe it must be the truth… Jeez…

  • the nerve

    good, at least u scaling back a little.
    and if in ur mind ur winning, dats kool w/me.
    it aint about dat w/ me. I’s SUPERMAN, remember??
    Clown.
    and dont get it twisted. allen is on ur ass whether u want to address dat or u dont. but anyway, like i said people like u and respect u up here. u just actin’ like u 2 good 4 all dat. i dont give a damn either way. i saw u and tsi. i saw u and mad catz up here. dre. jukai.
    All them N*gg.s respect u 4 what u do. you just thimk u got it, though thats all. you aint goy it.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    @MikeC.: Rakim & Tribe are hall of fame rappers. Thx for reminding me putting on ‘The Saga Begins’ as we ‘speak’.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And I admit, I got a little personal with a commenter who I’ve blacklisted and refuse to acknowledge by name, but I get personally attacked on the regular. I’ve been called a terrible writer, comments have been made suggesting that I get dropped, my work and my knowledge of the game has been disrespected, and my family has been brought into the comments section and people have tried to use that in snide comments against me. Then when get pissed about it and go in on a select few, I’m all of a sudden sensitive and an a-hole?! It’s funny how THAT works. You cats are funny. And if Allenp is on me, that’s cool…he’s an actual journalist, so I can respect that a lot better than I can from people who aren’t.

  • the nerve

    callin catz retarded. some catz my be retarded up here 4 all u know. they tryin to jive w/u though. U know they retarded since u supposed to be da all up to do. but they wanna jive w/ u becuz they like and respect ur sh.t. you got it twisted partna. do some soul searching. actin like u all miserable.

  • hammer

    D-ZAM! Really? This what u guys been up 2 all day? If I had known it was this good,I would have checked on this hrs ago. 1st just bout every1 getting on wottywo (understandable) now crawford and the nerve goin @ it? Wow! Like biz markie says “I was very amused” 2day

  • the nerve

    and u dont even KNOW who a journalist and who aint. everybody dont put they sh.t out there like that. And now you using the sensitive card. Welcome to the big time, BRA.
    You supposed 2 know the game. Thats your fall back. “IM this i’m that”. “I’m a pro”!
    Yeah, you have to get it 2 nite becuz u need 2 be checked. in the mean time, if u cant handle the sh.t u put out to other catz, then yes dat do hurt ur cred man. I thought u wuz up on dat street jive, man. how old ARE U???

  • the nerve

    PAWTNAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MikeC.

    At some point, the kids have to go to bed. Tomorrow is a school day.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    So you a journalist?

  • the nerve

    What difference do it make?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Should I take that as a no, or should I ask again?

  • MikeC.

    @ the nerve – Based on your inability to construct an actual sentence, we all know you’re not a journalist.

  • the nerve

    Mike:
    If u only knew whats really going on

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    @BC: People call it like they see it. My respect for your work is indeed not that big, you are a dime-dusin writer at best. I do however acknowlegde that you have some bball knowledge, not heavyweight though. For me your attitude is the problem, you are the only writer around here acting up like he owns the internet. Calling everybody who dares to disagree out in a utter arrogant way. That said, I would never bring your family into it – that is just plain wrong, so you got my support on that account. So Allenp’s arguments are ok, because he is a journalist? Well I’m a co-editor, do you listen now? Get real… A man’s profession got nothing to do with his opinions being right or wrong, most smart people know quality when they see it. And I for one don’t think you got it. I might be wrong I might be right – it’s an opinion. Btw let me know when the day comes when journalists rule the world, I mean it must be closing in since they are so smart…

  • KB2412345

    Crawford ankle breaked everyone on here pretty obviously. thats why he writes for slam and we write from our moms computers. nicely done man.. your a decent writer. incredible commentor lol.

  • JTaylor21

    Isn’t this old perv supposed to be from Chicago, DAMN dude is making the Chi look real bad today with his over-sensitive a**. Never knew that dudes from the “city of hella haters” possessed female traits, Hoover and Capone must be rolling over in their graves.

  • the nerve

    all u gonna do is call me a lier

  • http://myspace.com/emarosa Bryan

    WTF…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    So Lz, what makes me so terrible? Considering you’re a co-editor somewhere, I’m always up for constructive criticism as I’m always trying to improve my craft. And forgive me that my knowledge of basketball lends itself to arrogant disagreements with — not EVERYONE — juat a select few. I’ve made more friends on here than enemies, believe that.

  • http://myspace.com/emarosa Bryan

    Bryan Crawford is my dude. I don’t always agree with his opinions , but his attitude towards some of the disrespectful dummies in here is right on point.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I disagreed with Bryan like 3 days ago he didn’t seem to get pissed. Then again I didn’t say anything about him personally…..maybe that’s the issue

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Nah, bro…you just called yourself a “liar.”

  • KB2412345

    How bout them lakers…

  • the nerve

    to touch on something else allen got on Chris Deaton. Deaton dont come up her tryin to clown. U do. how many cats is hostile w/ deaton??
    call myself a liar? whatever. u knoe better than dat. u getz 0 pointz 4 dat one man.
    yeah, itz a rap.
    what else?

  • MikeC.

    @ the nerve – I’ve been reading the back and forth. As for what’s going on between you and BC, I care not. I was just weighing in on your implication that you may be a journalist. I found it amusing. I enjoy it when everyone gets all worked up and goes back and forth about BASKETBALL opinions. Everyone has their own perception and it’s fun to banter back and forth. This ish is getting way personal.

  • muls

    i think that what phil said is true, it is not talent that wins but teamwork. however, it would also be hard to discount the fact that talent can work with one another. this in view of the fact that these three men were part of the same draft class of 2003. also, they are good friends and i it will only be a very small possibility that egos will be thrown about!!

  • Rusty

    whoever the f*ck said san antonio didnt have superior talent i hope your joking. WTF is Tim Duncan?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It’s fine to disagree, but there is a way to do it. No, I don’t get pissed with everyone, just those who think they know way more than they do when it’s clear that they don’t and take offense to someone telling them so. Some of you guys have run a lot of the good SLAM writers off with your ignorance, to the point that they don’t even comment here like they used to. Leaving the crappy one’s like me to roll around in the mud with you all. Truth be told, I’m the dumb one.

  • MikeC.

    @Rusty – according to whipplydoot, Tim Duncan lost 30 pounds. If that’s on top of the 15 (reverse muscle watch!) that he already lost, then TD is going to have to go into rehab for an eating disorder and exercise anorexia. If that’s the case, the Spurs are done.

  • KB2412345

    ahahaha lol @ MC. i would love to see a nearly anorexic Timmy D start the first game of the season..

  • MikeC.

    The Spurs need to go slow in the regular season. If they make the playoffs as a 6 seed or above, and everyone is healthy and not too run-down, they’re dangerous. I don’t think they have enough to knock off the Lakers, but they can go toe-to-toe with every other team. Their discipline and execution can never be underestimated.

  • hammer

    Top 5 rap duos: 1.Eric b/Rakim 2.EPMD 3.Outkast 4.Pete Rock/CL Smooth 5.Mobb Deep

  • MikeC.

    ^ Was Brand Nubian a duo or a group? If they were a duo, I’d bump Outkast and/or Mobb Deep for Brand Nubian.

  • the nerve

    Bryan: like i said man, its part of the game.
    and this is da life u chose man.
    Mike:
    I aint imply nothin. i didnt answer his question becuz for real, i see this cat. and im just checkin him.

  • MikeC.

    Also, if I ever went solo, my favorite emcee would be me.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    If it’s part of the game, like I said, it’s no wonder a lot of other writers at SLAM don’t check in no more. And you can cut that other crap about you see me, I “see you” and you ain’t no journalist. So you ain’t checkin’ nobody. You wanna check me? Write something or direct me to something you wrote. Until then, you can miss me with that, bro.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    @BC: Tough question. Truth be told I havn’t really paid that much attention to your stuff since we beefed some time ago and I am probably not the most unbiased considering our history. I didn’t say you are terrible, just imo not at all remarkable either – dime a dusin like I said; not that original, not that creative, not that objective, a lot of involving your own persona in the stories – which works sometimes but often flunks, not a very good sense of humor (matter of taste I guess), and like I have mentioned earlier a kind of entitled arrogance that I don’t support in any writer, most of the time you don’t talk to your reader you talk down to them – it is the good old professor to student talk which doesn’t work nowadays, this only gets underlined in the way you handle commentators who disagree. I read the Noah article the other day and didn’t think it was bad or anything, but not remarkable either (I agree with many of your points on Noah, and funny as it is considering our differences am a fellow Bulls’ fan) but the way you goes about persuading the reader is in my opinion just not that persuasive, the arguments are simply and not that well constructed; you blurt out some facts about assist in the playoffs, some block stats and some stuff about Noah’s heart and hustle. Which should have been stronger highlighted, as it is what really sets Noah apart. This is as constructive as it gets, it late where I’m at (São Paulo, Brasil). So can’t really muster the time and get deep into it. But for what it is worth this was some critism without name-calling etc. Bryan, not all commentators are disrespectful dummies and more often than not BC treats everyone like they are and like they should just bow down to his ‘golden truth’ and mighty ego. It gets old, is not the way to engage your readers, it is quite snobbish and doesn’t fit at all with the image SLAM has built through the years as seen through my lense. Like someone said around these parts: Let that one marinate for a minute.

  • hammer

    @mike. Brand nubian was a group

  • MikeC.

    @ the nerve – #
    Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.22 at 10:37 pm
    So you a journalist?
    #
    the nerve Posted: Sep.22 at 10:38 pm
    What difference do it make?
    #
    Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.22 at 10:40 pm
    Should I take that as a no, or should I ask again? ”

    BC flat-out asked you if you were a journalist. You neither confirmed nor denied that you were, or were not a journalist. By not directly denying that you are a journalist, you are tacitly implying that you are. Since you seem to have difficulty crafting an actual sentence and using words that exist, I am implying that you are not a journalist.

  • the nerve

    I never said i wuz a journalist. you sayin dat.
    i never said i wasnt. like i said i see you and u know it.
    you prolly think im allen but i aint. i aint nobody like u said so it dont really make no difference what i am.

  • hammer

    @mikec. Brand nubian was a group

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    And whoever made the top 5 rapduos list, forgot about the clear-cut number one: Guru & Primo

  • MikeC.

    @hammer – I forgot about Grand Puba. What about Black Sheep? Their career didn’t last long, but A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing? Daaaaaaamn!

  • MikeC.

    @Lz – you know it! I can’t believe we all disrespected Gang Starr. RIP Guru.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ hammer: You forgot Gang Starr.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Lz you called it first. However, with all due respect to Gang Starr, Eric B. and Rakim is the greatest rap duo ever.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    R.I.P Guru!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Crawford, don’t let those fools bother you. Look at how they talk and act tough on the internet lol. It’s cute. “wuz”

  • MikeC.

    Das EFX! Bum stiggidy bum stiggidy bum hun! Rumple dumple dumple toe toe! I’m a supercalifragilistictictactoe!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Actually dude, I don’t really care who you are. And I didn’t “say” you were a journalist, I “asked.” You never answered. I did some research on your posts here though and unless Allenp has an extremely wicked alter-ego, you’re not him. So what you are — until proven otherwise — is a commenter. No more, no less. And yeah, I know you see me. You’re paying very close attention too. Thing is, I ain’t hiding either, so I’m not hard to find. It is what it is though.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    @Teddy: Again that is a matter of taste. Love both duos. But imo Gang Starr was a more balanced duo. My fav song (of all music) to this day remains ‘Code of the Streets’ from Hard to Earn. RIP Gifted Unlimited Rhymes Universal indeed…

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I generally dislike ranking rappers against each other–kind of takes away from their contributions and originality. So, here are some other great rap duos in no particular order: DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, Das EFX, Nice and Smooth, Kool G. Rap & DJ Polo, the original Boogie Down Productions (when it was just KRS-One and Scott La Rock [RIP]), Kid ‘N Play, Mos Def & Talib Kweli even… Camp Lo was pretty nice too, and Capone ‘N Noreaga were alright… Who else?

  • JTaylor21

    A

  • MikeC.

    ^ Code of the Streets was dope. The violins made it so……(insert dope adjective). In my opinion, ‘Work’ is their best. “Are you working? What kind of work do you do?”

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    G’night fellas… I’m out like Old Dirty from the hospital…

  • the nerve

    you aint hiding so stop complaining when u get clowned on real sh.
    “it is what it is”.
    you should take that and stop complaining.
    stop saying catz iz haterz to you cuz they aint.

  • MikeC.

    @ Teddy – I hear you on all, except CNN. As the immortal Freddie Foxxx said “I’m sick and tired of NORE and his what what what, write some rhymes or shut your ass up up up.”

  • MikeC.

    Heltah Skeltah….

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Lz: Yeah that’s cool. Hard to Earn is a classic LP. The thing I like about Gang Starr was how well-rounded they were. From kicking consciousness on “Manifest” to rapping about the history and culture of jazz (word to Spike Lee). And of course, the grimey street raps on Hard To Earn.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Yeah, I’ve never been a huge fan of CNN, Mike. I know some people like them though, so that’s that. Good looking on Heltah Skeltah. Oh sh!t, speaking of Boot Camp Clik we have to mention Smif-N-Wessun up there for sure.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Sigh, “the nerve” of some people.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m out…it’s been real. Learned a lot tonight. Mainly, who’s down and who’s not. Who’s worth the time and who’s not. And everybody knows who they are. In a minute…

  • JTaylor21

    The old man is still up must be his life support machine that’s keeping him up.

  • MikeC.

    What’s the all-time record for posts on a SLAM thread? This has to be getting near the top.

  • MikeC.

    Canadians in the house should tune into cRaptorsTV right now. NBA’s Greatest Games is showcasing 1979 EC playoffs. Philly vs. San Antonio. Iceman vs Doc is the hype, but Darryl Dawkins is ripping it up. These guys look like they spent more time in the gym practicing their moves than pumping iron. Better basketball.

  • the nerve

    everybody is down wit u.
    u dont get it. maybe thats how you keep your edge.
    thinking catz is against u. im out too.
    there will b another time.

  • MikeC.

    @JTaylor – I’m old, grumpy and almost drunk. I’ll throw back and forth with you for awhile. Irritate me with something. You’re fun. You’re dickish, but mostly on-point.

  • hammer

    These r not official top 5. Just my pov. Ther r just so many 2 mention that’s its hard 2 mention all of them. Nuthin wrong w/blackstarr(mos def/talib kweli. Plus they only had 1 album)black sheep or even ugk. Those deserve top 5 consideration as well. But I just cant put camp lo (and they were very good. Luv black connection and coolie high)das efx,fresh prince,kid n play or capone n noreage w/the the other duos I mentioned earlier

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    JTaylor just trollin on here waiting for a chance to say something pointless. – I’ll take a Big L & Jay-Z collabo any day….not saying they the best or anything but most enjoyable isht to me

  • KB2412345

    We should start a kobe lebron debate now so that the comments go to 500. but its pretty simple Kobe is vastly superior to LeBron so i guess there is nothing to talk about….

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @the nerve: You’re alright with me. Lz too. And I “get it.” Point taken…

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    DAMN I was away for a computer for like 3 hours and expected a few more comments but, DAMN. Anyways, as for top rap duos, anyone mentioned Little Brother? Sure, sure, they were a trio for most of their existence, but when 9th left they were…aight, nevermind, they weren’t sh*t without 9th. As for Bryan Crawford vs. everyone else, Bryan’s been my dude since he first started writing on here. Me and JTaylor have had our battles in the past but we cool now, so I just laugh when them two cats go back and forth. As for them other cats, don’t know much about them, so whatever. I personally think it’s dope Bryan gets into it with us commentators cause most writers never even bother. Sure, a Ryne Nelson sighting here, an Ed. (Ben Osborne) sighting there, but most even if you directly get at them will never interact with you. Bryan (and Myles) for better or worse, will.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    And good to see James the Balla on here. You wanna talk about REAL tough guys, my man right there’s fighting for our freedom. Good ish, dude.

  • MikeC.

    I’m too old for this ish. Goodnight moon.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Shoot, it’s only 8:19 PM on my side of the world…

  • MikeC.

    ^ Get ready for 30 days of night man. I’ve lived in the Canadian North. Nunavut and Alaska ain’t no joke.

  • Ali Saadat

    You tell em Phil!

  • JTaylor21

    Damn @MikeC, I wasn’t talking bout you bra. I think that me and you agree on a lot of things and are cool (I think), I was getting at the granpa that writes for slam. Also shout outs @Enigmatic, one of Chi-town’s finest unlike granny who’s been disgracing the Chi all day long.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn @MikeC, I wasn’t talking bout you bra. I think that me and you agree on a lot of things and are cool (I think), I was getting at the granny writer. Also shout outs @Enigmatic, one of Chi-town’s finest, we may not agree on a few things but I STILL respect dude.

  • JTaylor21

    Bron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2 kobes

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @Mike C – I moved to Palmer, Alaska last June so I’ve experienced it once before. You ain’t lying! Waking up at 6 in the morning and the sun not being out yet, getting to work and the sun Still not being out yet, then getting off and driving home at 5 pm…and the sun being down already sucks. You never see the sun cause it’ll only be out for like, 3 or 4 hours a day!

  • JTaylor21

    Shoutouts @Enigmatic, one of Chi-Town’s finest. Though we may not agree on a few things, I STILL respect dude.

  • Byebye

    We will see this year who’s wrong mj magic Barkley
    Or isiah pat Labron d wade Phil jax or the media is wrong the lakers are gonna win or the heat or the celts we will see who is wrong did Labron damage his brand or Is he a winner like alot of people think or are the lakers too deep to beat in a seven game series or can the celts gm seven with the lakers a marage or can the magic win
    I’m betting on Labron pat and d wade to get it done

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    D@mn Mike, you used to live in Nunavut?! And I thought Saskatchewan was cold… Alaska too. Brrrrr. The Inuit would be pretty cool to meet though, for sure. I’m just saying, no sun and cold 24/7 lol. It’s not as bad as it sounds, is it?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @JTaylor21 – the respect is mutual, homie. @Teddy – the upside is during the summer, the sun don’t go down till well past midnight! We can hit up the beach and party all freakin’ night in the sun!

  • http://www.manutd.com t-money

    “sensitive thugs, you all need hugs”

  • Ali

    Deezam…300plus posts. Truth hurts sometimes, no let me correct myself, ALL THE TIME! Hahaha. Phil is starting early placing seeds in all NBA players and fans heads…Don’t feed into it, don’t look into the light, Hahaha…

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    This was funny. Cheers boys.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Here here!

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Good to see bryan ‘gets it’, maybe be a lil less hostile. Anyways, TEDDY IS OFFICIALLY A KNOW-NOTHING ABOUT RAP!!!! Two of your favorite duos are jazzy jeff/prince and kid n play?!?!?! Wow! You lose forever with that. And you guys named some nice ny duos, gangstarr, erik b rakim. But! Best duo of all time far and away, above and beyond is UGK!. UGK godammit!! Dont forget 8ball n mjg. Mack 10 n wc. Best rapper of all time is K-RINO. The only one even somewhat remotely close to his galaxy is immortal technique. K-RINO=BEST RAPPER NOW AND EVER

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Been with Slam since #2, on Slamonline since they activated it, but this was one for the archives. BC throwing the body blows right back at cats, finally finding out that i can now shift my wavering dislike of Pau Gasol to his evil twin Paul Gaso, making my hate of the yellow/purple pants boys shine bright yet again, Eboy (’nuff said), Lzchipenfest with an uppercut and THREE HUNDRED & SEVENTY PLUS comments on a PJ post!! I mean this was one hell of a rollercoaster ride, reminiscent of Khalid, Russ, Ryan and Myles vs. Various commenters from a while back. High entertainment value, and a return to high comment numbers that slam regularly had (especially since Top 50′s aren’t getting as much discussion as in years past). As for Zen-Master’s views: tell me something i don’t yet know, Phil.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    I also get a distinct feeling that Slam fans can NOT wait for the ’10/11 season to commence. Some nervous energy up in here since the WBC’s finished.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    So….. did we work out who ‘the nerve’ is in the end after all that? I’m thinking it’s either JTaylor21 or Steph Marbury…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    …or that wottywo guy from the start of this thread.
    I have to say, reading back over the posts here….. this place became a warzone – can we please get Ben Osborne checking this ish out? I’m up for registered commenting now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Just to clarify (and a bit of a history lesson for the SLAMOnline newbies) a couple of years ago, there were posts that garnered over 1000 comments. If my memory serves me correctly, the Gold Medal game blog of the 2008 Olympics was one of them.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Then back in the day, The Post Up used to routinely have 500 comment counts daily, so this is minor in comparison…..but funny all the same.

  • MikeC.

    @EBoy – Are you sure they didn’t garnish over 1000 comments? Shout out to Reggie Miller!

  • Mike from Spain

    everybody knows that Spain should have won if referees had applied FIBA rules to the US team :) (I am starting to slip into my fireproof suit)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’d take:
    Outkast
    UGK
    Eight Ball & MJG

    over the world. Deal with it.

  • JTaylor21

    Give me TIP, Lilweezyana, and The Hot Boyz over anyone of those guys.

  • heh8meN1

    Not quite sure how we digressed from topic; but how in the hell can RUN-DMC not be the top rap duo EVER? Seriously. Goes to show the historical perspective and knowledge or LACK there of most “commenters” possess or DON’T possess.

    Second- Dre & Snoop.
    Third- Meth & Redman.
    PERIOD.

    The greatest MC of all time:

    KRS1.
    PERIOD.

    On topic, the Zen Master hasn’t even ZINGED the heat, yet.

    The heat won’t even make to the ECF. The only pre-season eastern conference favorite to make it to the ECF- let alone the finals in the last 10 years was the PISTONS.

    ATLANTA will represent the east in the 2011 Finals; only to get swept by the Lakeshow for Philip’s last hurrah.

    On To The NEXT WON.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oz0_0-Pw-g

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Allenp MY MAIN MAN! I knew you were trill!. Jtaylor, hahhhahahahhahahha ti and wayne? Smh kids these days. You dont have a critical ear do you? You just go with whatevers popular huh? although, late 90s hot boys was cool, bg, turk, juve, wayne was ok then. UGK! Ftw! Yo allen, u like k-rino? How bout dj screw? It seems like u would. …… Its sad how quick it went from free to rest in peace pimp c.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Never listended to K-Rino. Screw was cool, for what it was, kind of like New Orleans bounce was cool for what it was.
    UGK damn near birthed Cash Money. If you go back to all the old tapes, that who Baby and them looked up to, and who they went to grab when they wanted a tight feature on their CDs.
    Outkast birthed TI and them.
    I’ll take the old school over the new school, even though I like T.I.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Allen, u slippn. Get some k-rino, start with his latest, solitary confinement. U gotta have dj screw, not fake swishahouse or all them other fakers. Im jammn a screwtape now, current track is 8ball n mjgs that girl. THAT GIRL! And yea kids dont recognize the real and where alot of it originated. Run dmc? Theyre ok, but couldnt be more corny goofball corporate ish. Kids just repeat what they heard, like teddy for instance, hes takn others words as gospel.

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