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Wednesday, September 15th, 2010 at 8:00 am  |  54 responses

Polladaday: Heat in ’10-11?

It’s safe to say Miami was the biggest winner this offseason. How will it translate?

How far will the Heat go this season?

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  • Fatman

    No way they gonna beat celtics’ big 4. Maybe next season.

  • http://hurricane823@yahoo.com jusitn

    yea right they goin to run all over the celtics

  • http://hurricane823@yahoo.com jusitn

    yea right they goin to run all over the celtics the celtics are to old and cant gaurd wade bron and bosh

  • JTaylor21

    Should the celtics STILL be called a Big 4 now that Rondo is the MOST important player. Also the Heat have the STRONGEST chance of making it to the finals and winning it than any other EC team.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Interesting Q JT21 – I think alot hinges on what the production level looks like with KG, Pierce and Rayray. I don’t think the BIG 4 or BIG 3 tag sticks quite for the up coming season as much as they seem to have balanced out their roles, much like the winning versions of Detroit had through their runs into the ECFs. It will be interesting to see if they do a “Spurs Cruise Mode” as they wait for guys to heal up through the season” in a lead up to the playoffs.

  • http://Slamonline.com Pippen Ain’t Easy

    waiting for philosopher for the “long live the king” line.
    Celtics are NOT a big 4. they’re just A GREAT TEAM UNITED.
    HEAT are not champs this year. doubt it.
    LA all the way

  • Silent Storm

    Celtics are too old and can’t guard? Where were you when they shut down both Wade and Lebron in last season’s playoffs?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Wade averaged 30pts a game against the Celts in the playoffs and dropped over 40 in one game. Where is that shutting him down, you ignorant as*hole? Dudes that know nothing should keep their fu*king fingers off the keyboard and stop embarrassing themselves.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    33 pts per game, to be accurate.

  • http://hurricane823@yahoo.com jusitn

    cosign eboy and last time i looked lebrons numbers looked good to so no they didnt shut either one down an cant do get em both in one game

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    2nd round exit. Blame it on the C’s. SMH

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    Boston won’t be able to handle the Heat’s Megazord will be getting buckets upon buckets. I’ll give the Lake Show the edge in the Finals though (personal policy to not bet against defending champs)

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    I’m not from Miami, but I just want to see them play. Can we start the season yet?

  • http://thosefishtacosarethetits.blogspot.com Boston_Blogg3r

    I’ll take the Celtics in a 7 game series against anybody this year.

  • Silent Storm

    @Eboy: I don’t feel embarrassed at all. Last I checked basketball is a team sport so Wade could have averaged 60 PPG and it wouldn’t have made a difference if they lost the series. Score all you want, if your team loses the game and the playoff series you’re shut down because you still didn’t contribute enough to the team to win. Don’t go passing judgment and becoming offensive on matters which you don’t fully understand, you pathetic ignoramus.

  • http://hurricane823@yahoo.com jusitn

    no thats shutting the team down you said they shut wade down last time i checked if a man scores 30 points a game on you then you didnt shut him down

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I think the Heat make it out the east but I’m not sure if they beat the Lakers. Obviously, chances are good though.

  • Silent Storm

    Wade and Lebron each belong to a team, and the ultimate goal of a team is to earn a victory no matter what it takes. A loss is the opposite of a victory and there are no personal victories on the court, therefore they were shut down and sent home both individually and as a team. The Celtics chose to let Wade do his thing and they played solid team defense as a collective group, holding the Heat to an average of 87.6 PPG during the course of the series.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Silent Storm is officially the George Bush of SLAMOnline.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    YOU SAID “Where were you when they shut down both Wade and Lebron in last season’s playoffs?” You made no mention of The Heat or the Cavs or their teams failing being tied into their respective “shutting down”. That’s 1st grade debating skills at work, you fuc*ing minimum wage minded hack. Please take your fabulous knowledge to ESPN.com or your school newspaper.

  • Silent Storm

    So you’re telling me the fact that they’re part of a team is not a given when analyzing the game of basketball?

  • Silent Storm

    Withholding information due to the assumption that others understand the game of basketball is the main issue here. There’s no debate, the results speak for themselves.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Please, dude, you’re a nitwit to the nth degree. You made a statement. It was countered with factual evidence to the contrary. You are now trying to dissolve it by forcibly trying to direct your poorly worded opening into a different argument. You’re new to posting here, right? Try again in another topic.

  • Silent Storm

    And what gives you the right to criticize past presidents of this country? Would you like to try running the country for a day? If you don’t like the way things work here under certain presidents, why don’t you move elsewhere?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    If you were being sarcastic (hopefully) that was actually kind of funny.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I gotta side with Eboy on this one. You can’t state that a PLAYER was shut down, despite him balling the f*ck out, and then backtrack and say the TEAM was shut down. When Michael Jordan scored 63 in that first round game against Boston in ’86 but the Bulls still lost, I don’t think Larry Bird or anyone else went out and said “Michael Jordan was shut down”, in fact what I believe he said was “that was God disguised as Michael Jordan”. If, for arguments’ sake, the Warriors had lost the game Wilt scored 100 points in, do you really think people would actually be saying Wilt was shut down that night? Oh, and Eboy and every other American has the right to criticize any president, past or present. Hell, I’m not a big fan of Obama, but I respect everyone’s right to either like or dislike him. Especially since I served this country to help protect our rights, which INCLUDE freedom of speech. If you don’t respect those rights, maybe YOU should move elsewhere.

  • Silent Storm

    I never altered my argument, the concept of winning or losing as a team has been set in my mind ever since I can remember. All I’ve been saying from the start is that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. You were the one who took my words and misconstrued them with your so called factual evidence.

  • Silent Storm

    Why criticize the job someone is doing unless you think you could do it better yourself? It has nothing to do with rights, it has everything to do with the reasoning behind one’s statements. The media controls the opinions of the masses who follow it blindly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Have you ever posted under another name, because this nonsensical logic sounds familiar?

  • LakeShow

    Eboy is officially the Barack Obama of slamonline.

  • Silent Storm

    Notice that in my initial post I said the Celtics shut down those 2 players, not that Paul Pierce or a particular Celtics player shut them down. That seems to have been overlooked by the individuals countering my statements and proves my point that certain players have become the faces of franchises, much like Kobe Bryant.

  • feez22

    wade was shut down? LMAO. wade went for 33ppg on 56 percent shooting and 40 percent 3pt shooting vs. the celtics in the playoffs. ray allen and tony allen couldn’t stop him at all! shut down my ass. lebron was under par in his performance but even then you look at it and he avg 26-8-8 around that so get real the celts defense will have no chance vs. the heat.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    How many Americans will ever get the chance to be President of the United States? Maybe something like .000000001 percent of the population? Now, how many Americans does the President’s performance in office affect? 100%. That’s why we have approval ratings and such. It’s not a question of whether you can do a better job or not. It’s every American’s right to question their leaders because it DOES affect them. This being a basketball site, you’re gonna tell me you’ve never criticized an NBA player? You just said earlier Wade was shut down….so, do you think you could have done any better??

  • Silent Storm

    If those are the chances of becoming President of this country then imagine what the chances were of a man becoming President who grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia coming from a Kenyan father and a white mother. That’s a pretty minuscule figure. Approval ratings can be misleading because I seriously doubt that there will ever be a President who will be unanimously loved and revered by the entire population of a country. Wade being shut down by the Celtics is no criticism of his individual performance during that series, he’s undoubtedly one of the best and pretty much unstoppable. The matter at hand here is the context of “being shut down”. That can be taken as a player was limited offensively due to the collective defense of the opposing team, or it can mean that he was sent home along with his team regardless of his contribution as a result of the performance of the opponent.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Silent Storm, you are missing the point. Americans have a right to be critical of their President, regardless of his background, what he had to go through to get to the white house, etc., etc. As for the “shutting down” debate I can see where you’re coming from, but when one talks about a particular player being shut down in any team sport, the average person will take that to mean their individual performance, not the team’s. In an earlier post you said you were reffering to teams, not individuals, and that’s why you didn’t bring up Paul Pierce. But you brought up Wade and James, so why couldn’t you have said the Celitcs shut down the Heat and Cavs? You’re contradicting yourself.

  • Silent Storm

    Yes I could’ve, but I was trying to emphasize the Celtics team unit in contrast to the one man armies that were the Cavs and Heat. I have no problem with people being critical of the president, I just question the basis of their criticism.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    ^ Fair enough.

  • JTaylor21

    Barack Obama is the best president since the REAL first black president; Bill Clinton. He’s doing the best job possible given the situation at hand and the pile of SH*T that George Bush DUMB A** left him. The least you can expect from a president is to at least give an effort and try to get things done instead of making a fool of himself, starting two WARS and turning a blind eye to the economic downfall. F*CK George Bush with a aids di*k and I’m riding with Obama all the way regardless of whether people (mostly WHITE) hate him.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Silent Storm has a bad habit of backtracking.
    I’m saying, you can’t say a team shut a player down, and then point to that player’s team losing as proof that they were shut down. In that case, when Mike gave the Celtics 63 in the playoffs he was “shut down” because the Bulls lost and that’s totally bogus. If Larry Bird compares you to God, you aren’t shut down.
    And, you said this:
    ” If you don’t like the way things work here under certain presidents, why don’t you move elsewhere?
    Then, you said this:
    “I have no problem with people being critical of the president, I just question the basis of their criticism.
    Those two statements don’t seem to go well together.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    MAAAAN, JTaylor, I was living just outside of Chicago when Obama won the election, and believe me when I tell you most of his supporters were white. It’s not about race, at least it shouldn’t be. I don’t give a sh*t if the prez is white, black, or orange. Seriously, my skin is brown so I could care less. For the record though, yes, Bush sucked too.

  • Silent Storm

    ”If you don’t like the way things work here under certain presidents, why don’t you move elsewhere?” Was a question in reference to his criticism of Bush which was an unsubstantiated statement so it bears no connection to my later sentence. JTaylor21 stated why he dislikes Bush so that’s totally acceptable to me. In reference to Michael Jordan’s performance, I go back to the duality of the term “shut down” which I described previously. His individual performance was not shut down, but him and his team ultimately were because they lost the series.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You made false statements in your initial argument. You have continued to be misleading in your continuing posts backtracking and trying to cover yourself. Hence, you are similar to George W. and his misleading ways throughout his presidency. Comprende?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I do feel the need to point out I have liked some of the moves Obama’s done in office. I thought sending more troops to Afghanistan was a smart move, I thought pulling out of Iraq was a smart move, I admire the way he’s dealt with the BP oil spill and thought he was too harshly critiziced for something he was not responsible for, and I absolutely must stand up and applaud the man for his desicion to award that Army SSgt the Medal of Honor. All the MOH recipients under Bush were killed, I started to think Bush thought dying in the act of a brave act “above and beyond the call of duty” was a criteria for the award. That SSgt is still alive and absolutely deserves the award. I just don’t agree with a lot of other Obama policies. But the man himself? How he carries himself and what he’s accomplished? Nothing but respect from me.

  • Silent Storm

    You launched a personal attack toward me and I responded with clear reasoning, there was no backtracking or attempts to cover myself.

  • JTaylor21

    @Enigmatic I feel ya on everything you said but you can’t tell that the majority of obama haters right now aren’t white. Did you see that Tea party BS when they went to the Lincoln memorial on the EXACT same day as MLK “I Have A Dream” speech and tried act like it was a big coincidence. Coinkidink my A**, they purposely picked that day just as a shot at that legendary speech and man. All I’m saying is that the majority of people who despise Obama today are white.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @JTaylor – You know, I lean a little more to the right on things. I’m pro-guns, pro-life, and all that. But I feel you 110% about the Tea Party. Bunch of old white racists. I’ve hated them cats since the moment I heard of them. Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin can also take that AIDS d*ck…

  • Silent Storm

    The majority of the people in this country are white so given that fact, there’s a higher chance of a white person disliking Obama than anyone else. A lot of people are quick to judge and don’t realize that change takes time though. We’ll be able to give an accurate opinion of Obama’s presidency whenever his term is up.

  • http://www.dontevenreply.com total scrotal implosion

    First off, heat might get to the finals, but lose to the spurs. Second, silentstorm is talking in circles and contradicting himself. Third, obama isnt the first black president, hes the first asain president. Half asain, rest a mix of white, black, etc. Really tho, hes just another politrickan not looking out for the people, health care overhaul is gonna end up costing ppl alot more, buying gm and boa with taxpayers money was fascist, plain and simple. Massive bailouts that include super bonuses for inept ceos is crap and just another waste of taxpayer money. Drawing down troop levels in iraq is something I approved, but oddly enough, those ‘noncombat’ troops had to fight a huge attack on all iraqi police stations and checkpoints right after ‘victory’ was announced. Increasing the troops in the search for the never to be found boogeyman in afghanistan will have no positive effects. Free speech is great, many people say lots of ignorant things, but that is their right.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @TSI – He’ll never be found in Afghanistan because he’s probably in Pakistan. Sadly, because the Pakastanis are “our allies” (and the Taliban’s and Al Qaeda’s too, somehow), he’ll never be found there either.

  • JTaylor21

    @TSI, you’re usually right but I disagree with you on Obama but I guess that’s why everyone is different. @Enigmatic is right, the US is looking in the wrong places and will never find dude. Also I don’t understand how it went from trying to find one guy into TWO separate wars, it makes no sense.

  • http://www.dontevenreply.com total scrotal implosion

    Maybe. I read years ago that he died of kidney failure in 99 in saudi arabia. Those tapes of ‘him’ are highly suspect. Whether alive or not, he will never be found. The only question is, how long are we going to be in afghanistan? How many troops must die? And for what? When is it enough?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Man, I have no idea. But I’m willing to bet whenever we DO leave Afghanistan, it’ll be just so we can send more troops to the next big threat, probably Iran or North Korea.

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    I’m going to co-sign Silent Storm’s train of thought. I will now declare that Adam Morrison WENT OFF in the Finals against Boston. A-Mo > LBJ + Wade + Dwight

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Champs. that’s all

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