Wednesday, September 1st, 2010 at 12:18 pm  |  72 responses

You’ve Got Mail

A peek into the mind of a superstar. And our inbox…

by Myles Brown / @mdotbrown

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From: mdotbrown@gmail.com

To: famerjones@gmail.com

Subject: Who’s Your Daddy?

Ryan,

As you know, I’m pretty forgetful. I would blame it on ‘college’, but to be honest, college never really ended. Anyway, Boyz II Men were at the Minnesota State Fair last week and they reminded me that we don’t ever talk anymore. But I was hoping we could find something to argue about.

As we both know, Mitch Albom is an opportunistic hack. Sunday’s righteous indignation towards Antonio Cromartie was just the latest assurance of such. As I tweeted-cause apparently that’s my thing these days-after reading it, Albom has shown little concern for single mothers or fatherless children before this bile, so perhaps he should find another column to meet his deadline. I’m sure Morrie has some new revelations to share with him from Heaven. Or some other such fuckery. However, trite as it was, it did remind me that we never finished our previous conversation.

I finally read the new GQ last week. Good stuff. I found the author’s incredulity with ‘The Decision’ fallout baffling, but I didn’t look to him for any insight into the game, just LeBron. Some of the article’s finer points are things we’ve discussed ad nauseum, but I still found these passages particularly interesting.

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As the only child of a single mother-Gloria, who gave birth at 16-James grew up poor, alone, never knowing his father. At first he and his mother lived with his grandmother in a big, roomy house, but when James was 3, his grandmother died. Heart attack. Christmas Day. (When I ask him later to pick the angriest he’s ever been, he picks that day.) With little education and scant work, Gloria couldn’t hang on to the house. She and James hit the streets, moving constantly, and when James was in the fourth grade he essentially stoped attending school. He also spent many nights by himself, praying for his mother to come home. Sometimes she disappeared for days. “I became afraid that one day I would wake up and she would be gone forever.”

….. The greatest players use anger as fuel. Michael Jordan played every night with something like road rage. Bryant resented Shaquille O’Neal, then resented the world for persecuting him about Colorado. The greats have chips on their shoulders, whereas James seems to have nothing on his but those football-sized delts. Maybe he doesn’t have enough anger? Maybe he’s too good at repressing his anger? “Are you a sports psychologist?” he asks. No. But he’s conceded in the past that he might not have the killer instinct of Kobe. That still true? “I hope not,” he says. “I don’t think so. I think I’ve gotten to a point now in my career where I do feel like I have a killer instinct.” Just a theory, I say. In his line of work, it seems like anger equals success. That’s an awesome theory,” he says. Some truth to it? “Maybe.”

…….. More than his elbow, people continue to question his will. Again, the playoffs. Why did he stand around? “I’ve never been standing around,” he says. “That’s not me. Even if I tried, I couldn’t do it. The fact that me and you are sitting here right now by ourselves is an uncomfortable feeling.” Standing around in the playoffs, sitting with me in a locker room-I don’t get the connection. And yet I still feel compelled to apologize. “No, it’s okay” he says, and now he’s the one sounding apologetic. He murmurs, “I like being around people.” I know, I say, taken aback by his downcast face. The fatherless boy who sat alone nights, listening to sirens and gunfire, wondering if his mother would come home, grows up to be a man who doesn’t like to be alone.

I’m human-even a sensible one at times-so I completely understood and empathized with the plight of Baby Bron. However, I’m also a fan and in some measures, a critic. As such, my initial reaction was, well…”Fuck that. He cheated the game, the fans and in many ways, himself.” But putting my own righteous indignation to the side for a moment, I decided to consider the bigger picture.

38439569I thought about this for quite a while and as with any discussion of LeBron, quite naturally my thoughts turned to Kobe-specifically his childhood. Then Michael Jordan and his childhood. Both are the products of upper-middle class, two parent, stable and happy homes with plenty of siblings. A solid and supportive foundation for a child to grow and realize their potential, which is completely atypical of the hardscrabble backgrounds many NBA players escaped. Of course both are also the preeminent examples of tireless dedication and insuppresible will.

I kept thinking. While there are few similarities on the court, there isn’t another player in the league who could identify with LeBron’s upbringing more than Allen Iverson. Or is it LeBron who should identify with A.I.? Regardless, we should all know the story of Ann’s Son by now; teenage mother, absentee father, abject poverty, surrounded by raw sewage and an even more toxic environment outside the front door. Then there was the brawl, the conviction, the incarceration, the appeal and the release. The Waltons thought they had it bad.

These were two boys who were forced to grow before their time, more familiar with the harsh realities of life than any child should be. Two boys faced not only with the responsibilities of essentially raising themselves, but providing for their families. Honestly, these were two boys who by any statistical measure should probably be dead by now. So the minute they shook David Stern’s hand as a #1 overall pick, they were two men with far different definitions of success than the rest of us. This is to say nothing of their drive, talent or desire to win, but ultimately, they wouldn’t be defined by a ring, but the lives they left behind.

That being said, I understand Bron’s desire to replicate his high school experience, just as I understand A.I.’s love of the nightlife. These are two men compensating for a lost childhood, no? But according to the cognoscenti these are two men who are also missing something. Focus, dedication, ruthlessness…..I don’t know, something. Which begs the question, could they have exhausted their will just to achieve what they already have only to have even more required/demanded of them? Did Michael and Kobe not only have the advantages of talent and timing, but of a relatively easy home life? Is there a correlation between childhood and ‘killer instinct’?

Granted, this is a small sample size, but there are more examples. The mere mention of Shaq’s name should be sufficient, so let’s move on.

Ironically enough, Bron and A.I.’s biggest detractor has been Charles Barkley, a player routinely criticized for his lack of commitment and conditioning. Charles was another son of a poor single mother and openly acknowledged the emotional turmoil he endured through early adulthood.

He speaks hardly at all of his father, Frank Barkley, who left Leeds when Charles was a baby. He tries to appear indifferent, but finally he admits, “I hurt to the extent that I wish he had been there and hurt that he wasn’t. I was very angry and very resentful all my life, until the last couple of years.”

It’s not a stretch to say that a man crippled by anger for much of his life simply didn’t have the desire to manufacture more anger in order to compete with a raging despot like Jordan. For all his bluster, couldn’t it be that Charles just wanted to be-or actually was-happy?

Conversely, Earvin Johnson is a clear cut case; two loving parents, nine smiling siblings and a trail of adoring fans and championships have followed him since high school. But just as God planned, there is no Magic without Larry, who happens to be our first outlier. A bio isn’t necessary, the man’s pain is visceral. Is it worse to never have had a father at all or to lose the one you’ve known and loved to the bottle and a bullet? It’s certainly not a contest I’d want to be in. You want hardship? Larry Joe Bird had it in spades. But he also has them rings n’ things we sing about. Whatever ‘it’ was MJ and Kobe had, Bird had it first.

Of course some mouth breathing bigot could explain this all away with a wave of the hand and a simple cliche: A hard working white man with talent and true grit can’t be stopped by anyone. But it’s not that simple. Was he a product of his time? Is it the money? I won’t pretend to know, but it’s worth exploring. That’s where you come in, being white and all. Ha. I kid. I think.

Anyway, this has gone on long enough. I trust you see what I’m getting at and won’t oversimplify this as “No daddy, No ring”. And yes, I’m well aware of the slippery slope that is pop psychology, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t fun to play with anyway.

Holla,

Myles.

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  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 12:45 pm
    *sits back and waits on a reply from Ryan*

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 12:51 pm
    It’ll be a while, but feel free to have at it yourself…

  • Darius (Eastern Michigan's Future) Posted: Sep.1 at 12:55 pm
    another Bron & A.I similarity…They are the only 2 players to lead the teams to The NBA Finals by themselves

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 1:11 pm
    The Allen Iverson/LeBron James comparison is fair on the surface. However, as opposed to LeBron, AI had a HUGE chip on his shoulder to the point that he was basically a beligerent a-hole that didn’t care if you liked him or not. He was going to do him, regardless. He also had a killer instinct that can be likened to MJ or Kobe, at least on the court anyway. He never understood that the same killer instinct on the floor also has to follow you into the weight-room and to practice. I can see how one can be so motivated by “making it” that once they arrive they slack off because, hey, mission accomplished, right? It’s certainly not hard to fathom that guys (read: black athletes) who grow up under rough circumstances and who dream about a professional sports career, do so only because they want the things that their poverty doesn’t allow them to have (nice cars, houses, jewelry, luxury vaca’s, etc.) and not because they want to win championships in their respective sports. If I do, I do, if not, at least I got this paper is the mindset. LeBron, because of his status and stature in the game, is starting to feel the pressure to win which explains the Miami move. But in all honesty, if it didn’t come with such pressure and scrutiny because of who he is, I think he’d be just fine “dominating the stats” and being ringless.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 1:25 pm
    Efficiency aside, I agree that AI had a similar competitive spirit that unfortunately didn’t follow him to practice. Not that he belongs in the conversation, but when I asked about how people perceived him, Lamar Odom told me that “once I shook David Sterns hand, I became a success”. Everyone knows the life he’s lived and I think that attitude is natural to some degree, no matter what your talent level. I guess the underlying question of this all is, if MJ and Kobe had lived Bron and AI’s lives, would they still have the drive to accomplish what they did? Neither faced much-if any- adversity until they got to the NBA. At a certain point a man just gets tired and wants to be happy.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Sep.1 at 1:53 pm
    Funny, Boyz II Men are gonna be at the Alaska State Fair up here next week…guess that’s how they roll nowadays.

  • AlbertBarr Posted: Sep.1 at 1:55 pm
    This is the most interesting post all summer. I cant wait for the comments to heat up. Very nice, Myles.

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 1:57 pm
    I can’t blame Bron for wanting to be happy. In fact, I’m starting to feel like I can’t really blame him for anything at all. It’s clear that the image of him that we’ve been incessantly spoon-fed all these years isn’t anything close to the person he really is. He bought into the hype-machine of himself just like the rest of us. Sigh… I guess my anti-Bron stance is softening somewhat.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Sep.1 at 2:04 pm
    ^ Say it ain’t so, Bryan Crawford!

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 2:07 pm
    ^ It’s only September…

  • Boston_Blogg3r Posted: Sep.1 at 2:13 pm
    My thing with Lebron is that he’s too easily manipulated. Doesn’t need explanation. His ego is enormous and his maturity level is lacking. Guess at 20 that’s acceptable, but by 25 he should have a handle on that.

  • T-Money Posted: Sep.1 at 2:25 pm
    Yawn. Pop Psych. Because Jordan is the GOAT, we try to analyze everything he did as a recipe for success. Anger worked for HIM (and Kobe who still tries to emulate everything Michael did). Tim Duncan didn’t need any anger to win 4 championships, Magic didn’t need it, Hakeem didn’t need it, Zeke didn’t need it. Maybe Bird did, I don’t know. What set Michael apart from Charles Barkley, Karl Malone and all of his contemporaries was not ‘anger’ or ‘killer instinct’. He was a better player surrounded by a great supporting cast. That’s it. Kobe didnt ‘lose’ his killer instinct after Shaq and PJ left, he was just on a crappy team. And now his team is good again. Basketball is not a window through someone’s soul, it’s just sports. And as we often tend to forget, a COLLECTIVE sport. An individual star can play well and lose or play terribly and win. I’d argue that Kobe might have been at his peak as a player on these horrible Lakers team with Smush and Kwame but everyone was killing him for not winning without Shaq. I don’t think this e-mail deserves a response from Ryan because there really is nothing to it. Anger doesn’t necessarily lead to success. And there is no correlation between how someone grew up and the anger he displays on the court. Michael played angry and grew up in a happy household, Tim doesn’t and grew up in a happy household, LeBron doesn’t and grew up in a crappy household, AI did play angry and grew up in a crappy household.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 2:30 pm
    You’re not nearly as smart as you think you are. You missed the point entirely, but hopefully you can find the door.

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 2:31 pm
    Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant’s killer instinct doesn’t set them apart from their contemporaries? WTF?! As usual T-Money… You. Just. Don’t. Get. It. You’re obviously not an athlete and never have been and clearly this is all just a foreign concept that is much too advanced for your simple brain to grasp. Kick rocks.

  • EJ Posted: Sep.1 at 2:35 pm
    Lebron’s mom looks like a witch in that pic, and Mike’s dad looks like a cross between Mike and Ray Ray.

  • EJ Posted: Sep.1 at 2:43 pm
    You know that anger/killer instinct talk is kinda cool to hear. I’m starting to feel more like Kobe and MJ, cause I’ve been pretty angry for a while and it REALLY has helped me in basketball and like lifting weights and everything, usually I just clown around on everything, when I did that in basketball and working out that made me worse. But on the otherhand, feeling good and confident (not in a careless way tho) also makes you better the same way, maybe even more so.

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Sep.1 at 2:43 pm
    Who is Myles Brown?

  • T-Money Posted: Sep.1 at 2:49 pm
    Actually, I am an athlete. I played college ball. Not that it actually matters. We tend to think players change when often it’s the circumstances that change. Not sure MJ got better when Pip came. Not sure Kobe got worse when Shaq left and better again when Pau came. The FUNDAMENTAL difference between MJ and Kobe and their contemporaries is not killer instinct but talent (and great teammates). They are better basketball players. I’ll gladly take the door on this discussion that will go absolutely nowhere. Bye.

  • Cheryl Posted: Sep.1 at 2:49 pm
    Well, take it off the basketball court (or football field, baseball field…you get my point) and place the theory in the boardroom. Or whatever profession outside of sports, and tell me does it fly? There’s a lot of fatherless children who’ve become successful (at the top of their game) and a lot who have not. It’s deeper than that. But you know that, Max. But it is September, we’re all anxiously awaiting November, and we’ve got really nothing else to talk about.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 2:50 pm
    Just a boy with two parents, a sister, a niece and no killer instinct.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 2:55 pm
    I understand that Cheryl, but I didn’t want to examine anything outside the game because the context of what it takes to be successful is almost entirely different. Hard work and talent a prerequisites, but the opportunities and competition are vastly different. And none of this is even to say that any of these players aren’t successful, but that the adversity they’ve faced may give them a different definition of success or being content.

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 2:56 pm
    T-Money, on the internets, you can be whatever you want to be. Even a fake college bball player. Yeah, you take the door. Good idea. This conversation is clearly too deep for you. You’ll never get it and you’ll just continue to show what the intelligent among us already know about you anyway.

  • Jake Appleman Posted: Sep.1 at 3:00 pm
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • AJ Posted: Sep.1 at 3:09 pm
    AI was more hated then LBj by fans,media but he stuck with the sixers through good and bad times!!!
    I can`t say the same thing about lebron

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 3:12 pm
    Good piece Myles.
    Bird isn’t an outlier though. Remember, many of his teammates have noted that once he got into the league he wasn’t a gym rat, or a rat in the weight room. Even he’s sad that he wasn’t particularly dedicated to getting into shape during the off season. So, it seems he has more in common with Iverson than it seems on the surface.
    I like your thesis.

  • Cheryl Posted: Sep.1 at 3:15 pm
    I get that, but I think a lot of it is luck, in the sense of being in the right place, surrounded by the right people, and given the right circumstances. It’s a confluence of all these things, and to me, that’s luck.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 3:16 pm
    *said

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 3:20 pm
    And I think Bron gets a bad rap when it comes to killer instinct. I don’t think he lacks killer instinct. I think, at times, he lacks clutchness. I think he can get overwhelmed by the moment, and start to press and make mistakes. That’s the biggest difference between he and Kobe because it takes a freaking huge moment for Kobe to begin to doubt himself and then stumble.
    I like the idea that when you’ve fought for so long, you define success differently. It sounds good at first glance.
    But, I think the theory runs the risk of painting with too large a brush, with too little information, as Myles has admitted. T-MOney is right that we tend to view Jordan as the ultimate winner and therefore the blueprint for success, but that would never happen in real life. In real life we recognize that their are many different paths to the same destination, and your path is largely dependent on your own mental makeup.
    Kobe and Mike were the best not just because of talent and anger, but because the arguably put in more work than any other similarly talent player. Nobody puts in work on the little things like Kobe, and Jordan built on his already substantial physical gifts by becoming a workout fiend. That’s the biggest advantage I can see for them, not their backgrounds.
    Good discussion though.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 3:22 pm
    Yeah? I remember Maxwells talk about Bird being a gym rat and being there long before and after any of his teammates. I don’t remember any other testimonies I just assumed the results were evidence of as much. I’ll have to look into that. And thank you for recognizing the difference between a thesis and a conclusion….

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 3:27 pm
    Allenp, you make good points. But is there a diffference between killer instinct and clutchness?

  • AlbertBarr Posted: Sep.1 at 3:27 pm
    Nice point Allen.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 3:28 pm
    I agree with that Cheryl and I think they were lucky to have led the lives they did before making to the league so that they had the foundation to achieve what they did. I suppose it’s all subjective and hardly conclusive without a word from the men themselves, but like you said it’s something to talk about…

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 3:29 pm
    The only other similar comnparison is to AI and Bron is Dwyane Wade. He grew up under the same circumstances. But he’s from Chicago, so automatically he’s tougher and has that killer instinct. Right Myles? I kid. Oh and shout out to Jake for stretching my comment box all the way to Akron.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 3:33 pm
    Bryan
    I think so, definitely.
    I think of killer instinct as that aggressiveness, that willingness to dominate and decide that nobody on the court has the right to breathe the same air as you. You try to kill everybody, and you never let up.
    I’ve seen Bron do that on numerous occasions.
    Clutchness is the ability to accept the big moment, and perform at, or above, your norm. You could be having a horrible game, but when it’s time to make a big play, all of sudden you become and instant threat. Your level of play increases when the pressure is at its greatest.
    I put Lebron, Dirk and Iverson all in the same category as far as clutchness. All three have been clutch at different points in their career, but they’ve also failed to come through and made some questionable decisions. Now, I think Lebron and AI have no lack of killer instinct, while Dirk may have a little problem with that, but not too much.
    None of them is as clutch as someone like Sam Cassell.
    That’s my definition and examples.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 3:35 pm
    Also, from what I’ve read, Wade had a slightly better group of friends and family holding on to him. And, he had a chip on his shoulder because he felt he didn’t get his proper respect in college, or initially in the league. Bron and Iverson had a lot more respect initially, even if they got criticized.

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 3:39 pm
    Allenp,
    I’ll agree with that. Robert Horry was no killer, but he was as clutch as they come. But it’s obvious that ones who are truly great have both in their DNA. No one ever raises those questions about Kobe or MJ and everyone can pretty much agree that they have both.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Sep.1 at 3:49 pm
    I agree with Allen. I feel that VC can be put in that category as well. Killing is one thing, doing it when it matters is TOTALLY another.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 4:01 pm
    Bryan
    I don’t know if it’s a DNA thing or not. I think that some of it comes from training and working so much that you have almost don’t even consider failure.
    Also, both Kobe and Mike have failed in big moments, at times because of their own shortcomings. I”m thinking about times early in Mike’s career, and when he first came back from retirement in 1995.
    Kobe has seemed to tighten up at times, Game 7 this year for example, but not often.

  • total scrotal implosion Posted: Sep.1 at 4:06 pm
    Jj barea plays very angry, always wearing a scowl. Anger can be helpful, but if not properly regulated, can be the downfall. Some need the anger to coax out the ‘killer instinct’. It comes natually to others when the mind is relaxed.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.1 at 4:10 pm
    Just to clarify, this isn’t about anger as much as it is adversity.

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.1 at 4:12 pm
    Allenp,
    I meant basketball DNA which is born out of training and workin hard. Sure those guys have failed on numerous occasions, but they’re also not afraid to and when the game is on the line you’re not going to hesitate putting the ball in their hands. And that’s not to say you wouldn’t also put the ball in Bron’s hands either.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 4:17 pm
    I’m glad you wrote that last sentence because I think that’s important.
    We’re talking about degrees here, not a total lack. Dirk, Bron and Iverson have all come up clutch at different times. Very, very clutch. But, they aren’t, in my opinion, on the same level as someone like Jordan, Kobe or even, Wade.

  • JTaylor21 Posted: Sep.1 at 7:18 pm
    @AllenP, Why do you think that only MJ and Kobe were the only guys in the league putting in major work at getting their games better? All great players have to put in MAJOR work every day just to stay at the top, so stop acting like only those two guys were training hard. Even a guy like AI who people perceive as lazy, put in immense work just to get better every year, also someone like Bron who people think is just “getting by” on his supposed GOD given talents had to put in MAJOR work in the off season and season just to get to where he is today; he get’s better as a shooter each year, better as a defender, get’s bigger, stronger, and faster each year. If you think that having all that athletic ability and skills doesn’t require ENDLESS hours in the gym then you must have NEVER trained a day in your life.

  • Michael Posted: Sep.1 at 7:37 pm
    I’ve been saying Lebron was closer to Iverson than anyone else for years. And everyone tells me i’m and idiot.

  • The Seed Posted: Sep.1 at 7:45 pm
    Lebron does not have the killer instinct of Kobe or MJ, who he wants to be compared to in the end. If Lebron had that killer instinct mentality would he go play with other superstars to help them win rings. Wouldn’t Lebron want all the rings for himself to have and try his hardest to stop Dwade and Bosh from getting the ring. Who cares the way they grew up. I think it is a mentality that only the true greats have and need to be consider the all time greats. I am not saying Lebron will not be an all time great. I think he will but this PUNK move will follow him, unless he wins 3 rings or more. If Lebron gets one ring or two then it was not a great move in the en. I have always stated Lebron winning one ring in Cleveland is worth more than three rings in Miami as a superstar dynamic duo/sidekick thing. Kobe and MJ have a different drive. Kobe wants to win at all cost, and that is even if he will shoot the team out the game, because he feels he has to. Lebron will let his team take a loss, and not try to shoot them out the game to win. Some will say hey, bad shots Kobe, but would you rather have someone who is willing to lose by all means or lose by means of not trying all the way. Lebron will be great one day, but he did take a step back with his move and his so called TEAM knows it. Lebron needs rings bad to validate his career as one of the greats of all time. Lebron is a talent, I would not neccessary say him not having a father figure messed him up or his tough background from day one hurt him, I would say Lebron’s personality is not of a killers mentality. I feel that cat is too easily influence, and allows others make to many of his DECISIONS ffor him. His mom and friends play a big part in his life, but I want friends who will tell me the truth and not just be along for the ride. Shouldn’t one of his friends say dude you want to be a all time great, you lead a team. I play alot on this site about making fun of Lebron, but I truly feel he would get a ring eventually after lllosing each year. MJ did it, Kobe came into a good situation and took advantage of it, same with Bird and Magic. IF Lebron wanted his career in MJ shadow he needed to lead the Cavs as the absolute man, no matter if Bosh came or not. I still contend the the Cavs were a better team than what they put out, they just ran into bad matchups each year, from Orlando to Boston and Detriot. Lebron did over come a TOUGH Pistons team to lead the Cavs to a NBA finals birth in 2007 and that team was ten times worst than his back to back 60 win best record in the league teams and Mike Brown was the coach that year, so its not his fault. Lebron looked killer during that run, scoring 25 straight points at one time against a good Detriot team, but Spurs were to veteran savy and Lebron you could tell could not live up to the momemt. So I have seen Killer instinct in Lebron in the 2007 year against Detroit, he just needs it cut on 24/7, but maybe this backlash and people calling him out, will give him a reason to be mad. BOOK IT!!!

  • jammal o Posted: Sep.1 at 10:55 pm
    michael, youre an idiot

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.1 at 11:59 pm
    JTtaylor
    According to Iverson’s authorized biography written by Larry Platt, he rarely worked out in the off season. During his time in Philly he regularly hid when it was time to lift weights, and I remember reading a story about him sneaking off and coming back with a bag of tacos from Taco Bell.
    During his infamous “practice” rant, he basically said he didn’t understand how him lifting weights or practicing all the time would impact his team.
    Iverson did not put in the same kind of work Kobe or Jordan put in. It’s obvious when looking at his game and body. I’m the biggest Iverson fan on the site, but that doesn’t mean I’m blind to reality.
    On Lebron, both he and Wade expressed amazement when they played with Kobe in the Olympics at the level of working out he did, and admitted that he was on a different level than they were. But, all it takes is looking at the games of Kobe and Jordan, and comparing them to many other players to see the level of improvement and the refinement of their fundamentals. Kobe, right now, is the creme de la creme as far as workouts and preparation. Nobody else is really on his level from a fundamental standpoint.
    Honestly, if you need to actually practice READING what people write instead of inserting your own spin on what you think they mean. You’ve been on the site a very short amount of time so you have no idea what I’ve written in the past and what my thoughts and feelings are on most subjects. Your assumptions about what I mean, or what I think are usually horribly wrong and your belligerent attitude is comical on the internet. Seriously, calm down, read more closely, and learn how to express a coherent thought without numerous references to homosexuality or some other form of idiocy.

  • Tariq Posted: Sep.2 at 12:02 am
    Myles,
    I enjoy everything you write.
    I think that the way people perceive the inner lives of athletes is just that: perception. We may occasionally get a glimpse at their emotional state, but even then, we can only really interpret what we see. For example, is Kevin Garnett merely passionate or borderline psychotic? I believe what we ultimately conclude tells more about the observer than the athlete himself.
    To me, LeBron James is unreadable. He could dream about a ring every night. He might be consumed by the pursuit of that championship to a point I can’t fathom. Or he may think that winning a ring would be kinda nice.
    Please forgive me if I’ve been rambling, but I guess that what I’m trying to say is that we, as humans, desire simplicity, but reality is much more complex. Yeah, something like that.

  • hoopistani Posted: Sep.2 at 2:52 am
    great article
    but I think LeBron’s excuse of “wanting to play with friends” is BS. What, he could only make friends with other All-NBA-Level players?
    What about the Cavs guys he spend night in night out ballin with – they weren’t friends?

  • Jay Posted: Sep.2 at 9:25 am
    Yawn… Throwing a ball around for 30 mil a year, who knows what these athletes are thinking… And who cares. They all must have lost touch with normality years ago. They are probably sending photos of their genitals to strippers.

  • Krishan Posted: Sep.2 at 10:08 am
    I liked this piece. A lot. Basically it says that hardships will mold you into being a great player, but guidance will take you a step further. Of course it’s much, much more complicated than that, seeing as how barkley and bron came so close to winning it all, and to simply chalk it up to “they didn’t have both parents” is quite a cop out, but yeah I’m willing to concede that it could’ve played a part in their competitive motivation.

  • Nicholas Posted: Sep.2 at 1:16 pm
    Interesting stuff, there are thousands of players to have played in the nba, some win championships and some dont, some have harder upbringings than others. There are plenty of great players that had a good upbringing who didnt win a championship and players with bad upbringings who have won a championships. Lebron and AI could have lived the exact same childhood, they would still not be the same person. Same goes for Michael and Kobe, so I think no matter the upbringing, good or bad, it all boils down the individual himself. Winning an nba championship is hard, it is even harder if your the guy on the team who is the leader. So all kinds of factors come into play and it all comes down to the individual. How talented is he, how well coached, how hard does he train, how well can he mentally prepare, how well does he prepare his teammates, how did his childhood prepare him for this or not prepare him for this, what is his motivation, his drive, how well does he know the game, how well has he studied his opponents game, how well does he know his own game…so on and so on.

  • Ben Osborne Posted: Sep.2 at 1:22 pm
    Solid as ever, Myles. Thanks.

  • chazz michael michaels Posted: Sep.2 at 1:42 pm
    lebron and a.i. lived nothing alike. Lebron has been pampered since age 13, you cant tell me that bron and ai were raised them same. Bron is just an idiot who loves the limelight… sometimes idk if he even cares about getting a ring but if he is just the top story on espn. ai actually cared though… fck bron love ai

  • The Philosopher Posted: Sep.2 at 2:07 pm
    ^^ LONG… LIVE… THE KING!

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Sep.2 at 3:37 pm
    Uhm, Chazz, check your history bro. Bron and AI were raised under VERY similar circumstances.

  • total scrotal implosion Posted: Sep.2 at 5:02 pm
    Larry platt??!!? Pants on the ground!!!!!

  • San Dova Posted: Sep.2 at 11:37 pm
    *thumbs up*

  • peter Posted: Sep.3 at 10:49 am
    The major difference I can see with Lebron and AI is that Lebron has been nationally famous from a very early age. I’m not saying he didn’t have an extremely difficult upbringing which certainly must have had some psychological effects, but he also had a Hummer in high school and a $90M contract with Nike by the age of 18 which could also have something to do with his approach to life and his craft. Is the age when you start getting pampered as a star relative to killer instict? Does it change your perspective? I had never heard of Wade until he was at Marquette and even then I don’t think anyone expected him to be as good as he is. But you raise intereting points Myles, very enjoyable read. I hadn’t made the connection between Lebron and AI, but its certainly there. Another piece of amateur psychology for you, is Lebron the classic case of living someone elses dream? Being a basketball star made him popular with friends growing up. He has an unnatural level of talent. A basketball star is supposed to want to win at all costs. So he follows that path and is good enough to almost get there and be the best player in the league, but really he just wants to be Jay-Z not MJ or Kobe.

  • peter Posted: Sep.3 at 10:49 am
    Just conjecture, not my opinion…

  • giogolo Posted: Sep.3 at 1:52 pm
    Yes. if slam continues to put out articles like this. I’m buy 10 subs each month and send it out to each of my ex/friends meh.
    Almost all you here have really insightful comments and I must admit being just an observer helps a lot in learning who are the loudmouths trying to sound off intelligent and those who really breath basketball and do it with class and a whole lotta sense.

  • giogolo Posted: Sep.3 at 2:13 pm
    you know how hard it is to find 1 copy in our place without others gettingthier hands to it right away.
    Lebron is unmotivated and has ingrained it in his system because yes mYles had a point about his unfavorable childhood experience which strongly zapped out his energy. Lebron is just happy that he survived the nightmare of being alone each night not knowing if his mom would ever come back. You dont know that kind of effect on a childs formative years.He’s happy and contented now bcoz all he wanted was already given to him at an early age which Peter was right on. Right now, deep down I would bet that the only thing motivating lebron to win a chip is becoz he has to. Just even on.e MJ didn’t have any motivation left after his 1st 3 peat. that’s why he retired.(I wont bring the subject about his dad) When he came back he was challenged again.Plus he put in hardwork and his competitive character which he built when he was cut off form his junior team was the beginning. He didnt have the difficult upbringing that he had to deal with emotionally and psychologically like what Leborn and AI experienced so he still have that extra mental energy to devote and channel his anger meh on the first thing that challenged him. AI had that competitiveness but didn’t have the discpline to further improve himself, thus would have inspired his team mates and other greats to play with him. Thats were luck and circumstances come into play to.After shaq left. Know one I think would want to play with KObe if only for guys willing to take a back seat to him. Would VC,Ray-ray,Nash,KG play with him? they would give it 2nd thought. Lebron right now,didn’t want to wait bcoz he doesn’t want to tire himself chasing a ring he’s not guaranteed to get with the current LA state of things running for a decade who knows.He doesnt want to be alone no more.he doesnt want to be left out with other great without a chip.Now with Miami is the beginning of the final testing ground before we see his legacy unfold. Now having a better(best?) chance to beat the only guy likened to the GOAT before he fizzles out.NOW i Get him. and then again.All this has always been about him.Miami will win a chip. And ill be there to watch starting November. FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS!!! Thanks SLAM.

  • T-Money Posted: Sep.3 at 4:11 pm
    sigh. judge the player, judge his game. you don’t know the person. this is almost laughable. we have no idea what motivates lebron or a.i. or kobe or mj. nobody here knows them well enough to pass such judgment. i wish slam would stick to talking about the game and kill the noise.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.3 at 4:30 pm
    Maybe you should get a blog of your own. Or f*ck off. Whichever works.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.3 at 4:41 pm
    And since I know you won’t f*ck off, you should take my other suggestion under serious consideration. You seem to think you know more than everyone, so form in which you could continue to bless us with your pearls of wisdom would surely take this site off the map entirely. Think about it. Or, you know, f*ck off.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.3 at 6:24 pm
    http://www.hothothoops.com/2010/09/02/family-stability-at-the-core-of-heats-pitch-to-lebron-james-and-how-it-worked/?utm_source=feedburner

  • T-Money Posted: Sep.4 at 3:33 am
    and that article supports your argument how? because i don’t share your theory about his upbringing having anything to do with his desire to win, i’m a know-it-all? when i like an article, i give props. when i don’t like it, i voice that opinion too. that’s what a comments section is for. don’t read it if you’re catching feelings. your theory is flawed. there’s no correlation (and even less causation) between the stability of one’s household and his desire to win/anger/work ethic/killer instinct. maybe you should stick to hoops or actually get a ph.d. in sociology. either/or.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.4 at 12:26 pm
    You’re a know it all because you don’t express opinions, you make declarative statements that generally end with questions of someones intelligence, understanding of the sport, journalisitc ethics, or the direction of the site as a whole. The link wasn’t to support my argument but to provide evidence that there are several similar conversations going on and this is the manner in which I chose to discuss it with Ryan. You expressed your distaste in your typical dismissive manner quite early in the comments. Upon suggestion you said you’d leave and then like the name changing coward you are, you wait until the post is no longer on the front page to sneak back in like a little b*tch and get the last word, which was no different than your first comment. I’m not catching feelings, I’m tired of your BS. I don’t want your props or your criticism, I want you to leave. Everyone else in these comments either agreed or managed to disagree in a respectful and productive manner. That’s how discussions are held and THATS what a comment section is for. Not another place for you to stroke your ego. If you can’t show any respect then you don’t deserve any. F*ck off.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.4 at 12:41 pm
    “Yawn, pop psych” “. I don’t think this e-mail deserves a response from Ryan because there really is nothing to it.” “this is almost laughable.” “wish slam would stick to talking about the game and kill the noise” That isn’t anyone catching feelings, it’s noticing a haughty attitude and a pattern of disrespect that detracts from the conversation at hand. If you were as fair as you think you are then you’d express your opinion once and move on, not come back solely to mock those who choose to participate in it. You don’t, you just want to hear yourself talk which is why you should get a blog. I’ve spent enough energy on you for now and it’s not as though you’ll change, so the next time I lift a finger for you it’ll be to have you banned.

  • Bryan Posted: Sep.4 at 1:52 pm
    Typical gutless response from the resident slam troll Tmoney/Z. You’re like Bill Simmons without the balls. At least he publishes books and columns, you’re just some no name computer nerd who thinks he knows it all. It’s unbelievable to me that someone in real life hasn’t just f*cked you up yet. Write a blog I’d love to read it, I’m sure it could cover everything from sports to politics and

  • Bryan Posted: Sep.4 at 1:59 pm
    Typical gutless response from the resident slam troll. It’s not your opinion anyone has a problem with, it’s the condescension. The only thing you seem to have any idea about is how Lebron tastes, yet you speak as if you know the game inside out. You say you played college ball , but I find that hard to believe since your lack of understanding of the game shines through so clearly with every comment you make. You’re like Bill Simmons without the balls. Just poke your head into comment boards and type nonsense and run off. At least he publishes opinion books and columns , what exactly do you do besides sit online all day and troll the slamonline comment section? Ever write anything of value? I’m not writer but at least I give it a shot and open myself up to criticism by posting my twitter and blog address in here. I’m not afraid to face the music when I say something stupid and or disagreeable. It’s so easy to sit in your bedroom wrapped in your Lebron blanket and try to pick apart every article that’s written on a website. You belong on foxsports.com with Whitlock and Rosen , they’re on your level. Or f*ck even Dime. Head over there, I’m sure they can appreciate your vast “knowledge”.

  • Bryan Posted: Sep.4 at 1:59 pm
    Ack double post.

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