Monday, October 25th, 2010 at 3:24 pm  |  53 responses

Barkley: Heat need to win two or three titles in five years.

by Ben Osborne / @bosborne17

Just back from the annual NBA on TNT Media Luncheon at the Time Warner center, where me and about 15 other folks that cover the L got treated to a nice lunch and some great remarks from some of TNT’s key on-air personalities: (listed as they were seated, from left to right) Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley, Marv Albert, Steve Kerr and Mike Fratello. Marv served as an MC of sorts, but for the most part it was an open forum for the journalists to throw out questions to the guys (as well as the always classy TBS Sports President, David Levy) and let them answer off the cuff.

Besides catching up with some of the other media types there, I participated by asking Levy if TNT was approached about airing “The Decision” (“No,” he said. “And we wouldn’t have been interested in something where we had to give up control like that.”), all of the guys if Erik Spoelstra was up to the challenge of leading the star-powered Heat (Kenny said definitely, but Charles thinks there’s a real question as to whether Spo’ will fell comfortable yelling at LeBron/Wade, etc.) and taking lots of notes in the hopes of getting a great soundbite.

Sure enough, Sir Charles delivered. Somewhat unprompted, as the lunch and conversation were winding down, he announced that in his opinion, “the Heat have to win two, probably three, championships, in the next five years to be a success. We have never had a situation like that in the NBA.”

Show and prove time, fellas.

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  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Not sure if I believe David Levy. As for what Charles said…duh.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I think that’s what most people are expecting, Einstein.

  • http://soundcloud.com/boy-sanchez Boy Sanchez

    Actually, he’s right. Even though I would love to see Miami win the title this year, I won’t be surprised if they don’t. I mean, you don’t need to have just talent but chemistry as well. But next year, there will not be any excuses.

  • dreny4life

    I’m so tired of barkley talkin big like he win a ring …

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Wish I knew about the LeBron ad and could’ve asked Charles about it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    What Barkley is saying is true. 1 in 5 years isn’t enough.


    Barkley keeps barking around like a lost dog. The season is HERE. The Predator(HEAT) will feed on the pray(Haters + 29 NBA teams) and everyone will be a WITNESS in mid june when KingJames raises the Larry O’brien trophy.

  • Savage Dragon

    Why are people treating Charles like this? I have no opinion either way but pretty much everything he’s said this summer has been straight out common sense.

    It doesn’t matter if he never won a ring or not, if the heat only win 1 ring or don’t win any rings, then they’re a massive failure. Can anybody argue with that assertion?

  • rodney

    People’s memories are so short. This situation has been done over many times; with mixed results. Lakers – Kobe, Payton, Shaq, Malone = No Ring
    Rockets – Horry, Olajuwon, Drexler = Ring
    Celtics – Garnett, Pierce, Allen = Ring
    Suns – Shaq, Nash, Stoudarmire = No Ring

    Granted this is a very special case where the MVP and most popular player made the decision to move, but superteams have happened before. Chemistry, and a strong, deep bench is what is going to be needed.

    And Charles is right, one ring in five years isn’t enough to justify the creation of this team.

  • a_whiteman

    More hot air from a guy who tried to jump on hakeems team and lost….


    this is year ONE SavageDragon…let’s not get ahead of us. Their 1st regular season game is tomorrow.

  • jdubbs29

    When Barkley joined the Rockets with Drexler and Olajuwon, how many rings did he win? None.

    Then Drexler retired, and Pippen took his place. This new big 3 of Olajuwon, Pippen and Barkley also won zero rings.

    Enough said.

    Bad pundit, no donut.

  • slick ric

    Levy a damn liar, and I believe the heat should win four times in five years, I give them this year to get acclamated but after that It is no excuse for them not to win every year


    Sir Charles is the master of stirring the pot. lol

  • Savage Dragon

    @mubwar I meant in a 5 year term, if for some incredible reason, that the Heat finish not winning any rings or just one, then they’ will be a failure no if and’s or buts about it Charles ain’t saying that’s definitely going to happen, he’s just saying that if it does, that’s what the perception will be.

  • T-Money

    Cats are sal-ty. This is what I don’t get: how is that relevant NOW? In 5 years, sure. Look back and see if it was a failure or not. But now? Is he going to bring this up every month until 2015? Fall back and enjoy the show.

  • chazz michael michaels

    i would love to see miami fail

  • http://slamonline.com LAKERSLEGEND

    I’m pretty tired of Barkley running his mouth all the time yes some of the stuff he says is funny yes its koo he likes lakers doesnt talk to much bad about them bout hes been dissin my boys in miami too much look at how bitter MJ is that Kobe is playing Phenomenally and is going to tie jordan for championships or even surpass him now imagine how mad barkley is he never had one and he disses superstars for joining up together in theyre prime unlike him joining Houston after his prime to only fail not suceed like Boston who joined up a lil after there prime and Miami is gna win ATLEAST 3 titles after kobe gets his.

  • hoodsnake

    What if there is a lockout?

  • unrel

    chuck is speaking the truth.. barkley’s lack of rings doesn’t mean he’s wrong about miami’s need to win multiple rings.. none of you have rings.. so turn your computers off..

  • Brian

    Who the F does Barley think he is, an NBA analyst at a media luncheon for his network? Why is he even answering questions?

  • Hammer

    Just saw on espn that AI has agreed to a 2yr deal 2 play n turkey. F**K!!! No doubt a sad day 4 the L

  • robb

    He didn’t say anything controversial. It’s what everybody expects.

  • http://www.nbaballhog.wordpress.com God in Basketball Shoes

    Saying that if the Heat win that amount of chips would make them a success is different to saying that if they don’t they will be a failure. Even if they only win one or two, it’s more than any of the players would have won if they’d stayed with their respective teams.

  • d.macaroni

    Barkley never does anything other than what he’s paid for…speak his mind. The fact that he’s so damn entertaining is the reason that it’s him up there and not someone more straight laced. I can’t imagine how awful it would be to have 3 Ernie Johnson’s spewing boredom in mass amounts. He has his detractors, but they couldn’t do what he does.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Barkley is right, for Lebron to give up his Legacy to be a one man machine, for Wade to bring along a great talent in Lebron, who will take away from his shine and Bosh who is not a high paid role player. They gave up alot to be Super Friends. BOOK IT!!

  • http://Yahoo.com Eboyhater

    Lol imagine if The heat win nothing.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    No team or player is entitled to a ring. So his statement makes absolutely no sense. I’m more interested in the overall meeting than one of Barkley’s comments, though. Definitely.

  • Ali Saadat

    Why the hell am I realizing I’ve been agreeing with Chuck on a lot of things lately?

  • hangtime Hec

    Co-sign Teddy.
    The Cavs of the past two years are excellent examples of that. Rings are earned not given. This team is to damned talented not to win it all tho.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    rodney: I bet if there was a ref working for the mob and a horrible ruling by Stern which caused Wade and Mike Miller to miss a playoff game, no one would be blatantly ignoring these facts and say the team lost legitimately like they do for the Suns.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Jukai is still on that bull. Get over it fool. Amare and boris ran on the court after nash exaggerated. Plain and simple, they had to be suspended, left the bench. no horrible ruling, textbook rules. What happened the rest of the series and every other year? Yea, suns were never good enough to get to the finals. Your team was in no way shorted. Get lucid.

  • http://www.hoopheadtalks.com Hoophead

    You would think that a person in and around the league for 20 years would have an ounce of knowledge….not the Chuckster. how many different teams have won the 30 or so titles…I think only 5 or 6. And that means EVERY championship is a big deal. And it only takes on to be a winner. He should know that better than anyone because he tried everything and failed to win.

  • angelito jr

    hey tarzan cooper!

    remember tim donaghy? yeah the one who screwed the suns!

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Lito, don-a-gie didnt screw the suns. He(along with other refs) screwed the kings. Amare and boris screwed the suns. And the assistant coaches for not keeping players on the bench. Its very clear cut. suns did themselves in. And spurs had alot to do with that too.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    hhahaha, see? But if the same thing happens to the Heat, I bet Tarzan defends them till the end.

  • Ajamu

    All I’m sayin is that when Kareem and Oscar won the one ring Oscar won, I was an 8th grader, grabbin the rim. If Oscar says LeBron is in a class by himself and there was nothing wrong with him changing teams,I believe him. Wilt, Earl the Pearl,Clyde Drexler, Moses Malone, and the list goes on. Great players joining great players to win championships. If Boston could do it, why not Miami? This Season!

  • http://slam Kid Canada

    you could say they need to win 5 titles in 5 years

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear


  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    First of all, LeBron… I mean…Hold on, lemme tell you something, okay? The Miami Heat got to play solid defense for them to win the…Kenny, don’t be knucklehead…If the defense is turrible and there are no role models then…well I mean Kobe uhh…40 points, 50 points, jelly-glazed donut…

  • http://Slamonline.com ENDS

    I liked EBoy more when his Heat Sucked.

  • cadmus

    they just have to prove it to the world that they can win not just one.

  • T-Money

    suns fans don’t have much to complain about. sacto fans on the other hand, oh my. that game 7 was something else.

  • Justin

    Of course Barkley was right. I also don’t understand the hate towards his comments. He’s there as an analyst for his network, people are asking him questions and he’s answerng. Just because he didn’t win a title doesn’t mean he knows less than those that did win a title. He played in the era of MJ. Nobody won. Should we listen to Steve Kerr more because he has 4 or 5 rings instead of to Chuck? You people put too much emphasis on rings vs. a person’s knowledge of the game

  • http://masterx1983@hotmail.com marchalmadness

    chemistry this chemistry that.
    Heat got 82 games to get it going, if they dont have any chemistry in 82 games they won’t have it for the next years.
    So i bet this year will set the tone for years to come!

  • http://www.slamonline melvin ely

    No charles. The heat don’t need to win 3 in 5 years to justify it. It only takes 1 ring. Since when did offseason transactions materialize with the goal of building multi-ring dynasties? When the Heat DO win a championship, do you imagine Lebron and co. walking off amidst the raining confetti not with euphoria, but with the stern determination of a job left unfinished? Of course not. This is all the hype you guys are buying into. Can you imagine how insipid and pointless the internet argument will be if the Heat, unfortunately, place below Chuck’s lofty standards? “Well, yeah, they one like once but they were supposed to win 3″? That’s stupid.

  • ab40

    They’re a great team not a superteam. They’ve got three great players. The rest of the roster with stack now on board has a combined 5 all star games under em? Three guys on the roster have a ring eddie house, dwayne wade and udonis haslem. They don’t know how to channal their losses yet. It’s gonna be fun. Within five years the friendship between lebron james and dwayne wade will be over. D.Wade should know that lebron listens to himself and his friends often weird advices. Bosh is going to want more touches. There isn’t a clear last second option I wonder who’s gonna take that backseat to the other.

  • mad max

    yo, miami, just play basketball! don’t worry about who scores, don’t worry about the assists and don’t worry about who grabs the rebound. The current problem with the Knicks is that there is no captain. Someone needs to step up. You should just start with the basics. That’s why we hope Amar’e, Felton or Gallinari steps up. So, let everything sink in and let life just flow. We can’t control it, but this is what we get paid for…. so…. embrace it.

  • http://www.threadsandkicks.com.au/ Eduardo

    I think LeBron just got tired and doesn’t want the pressure to have to be the Man every night. It’s good leverage to just be able to have an OFF night and let Wade or Bosh go to work. Visa Versa for the other two.

  • Yesse

    Well, Sir Charles is right. I think even 2 championships would be too little.

  • Justin

    melvin ely…actually, that is the point in trying to build great teams. To win as many championships as possible. Since when do organizations put together a team just to win one title?
    Eduardo…I think that’s exactly the reason Lebron’s legacy will always be in question now and it’s the big difference between himself and Kobe, and to Michael Jordan. Those guys WANTED the pressure of being the man every night. Michael used to say that he always went into every game wanting to be the best because it was very possible there were people in that crowd that might never see him again. He wanted everyone to go home after the game knowing they had seen the best. If Lebron actually did have that “it’s OK to have an off night” attitude, he’s cheating not only the fans but his teammates and the entire organization.

  • JD

    I agree with Charles

  • jay

    The heat, the hype, lebron, this colum and this comment is overrated.