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Wednesday, October 27th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  164 responses

D-Wade: ‘Sorry If Everyone Thought We Were Going 82-0′

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

The so-called most anticipated opening night game in NBA history came and went last night. And if we learned anything from it, it is the following: the Miami Heat, in spite of all their world-class talent, are still very much a work in progress.

Oh, and the Boston Celtics? Those guys are still really good.

The Heat understand that every game they play this season will be under a very large microscope. As Dwyane Wade (whose rust was on full display against Boston) explains, it’s important to keep a level head, especially when it comes to losses.

From the Sun-Sentinel:

A struggle most of the way for Dwyane Wade, and an uneven effort for Chris Bosh, only the third third of the Heat’s Big Three equation proved up to this debut … And Wade’s return from his preseason hamstring injury showed a player with plenty of rust. “Out of rhythm, of course,” Wade said. “LeBron said it was my first preseason game, with me being out, continuity still not there yet.”

The game ended amid chants of “Over-rated! Over-rated!” “They’ll be so much better,” Celtics coach Doc Rivers cautioned of meeting the Heat down the road. “It was a big game. It was a fun game. They are going to be a lot better when we see them again.” … “This is one of 82,” Wade said. “Sorry if everybody thought we were going to go 82-0. Just ain’t happening.”

The Miami Heat are going to be a great team. They’re obviously not there yet, but it’s coming. It’s just that expectations for them are so enormous, that no matter what they accomplish, it may never seem like it’s enough.

81 more pressure-packed regular season games to go for LeBron and friends. Fun times ahead.

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  • 702

    Hope the Celtics win doesn’t get completely overshadowed by the Heat loss as last night reminded us of two things; the Celtics are an amazing defensive team, and Rajon Rondo is Fantastic.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    On paper, Miami has a whip. But last night, as Mutoni pointed out, they are a WIP.

  • Bruno

    you have chris bosh on your team wade so 82-0 was just a hell of a dream

  • IHaveADream

    The Celtics look like a team while the Heat look like a bunch of individuals. Celtics-Lakers in the NBA Finals again.

  • http://bugmarley.com LeoneL

    They can win all 81 games now for all I care since I already know that they can be beaten.

  • http://twitter.com/nbatalkandkicks Eduardo

    I think everyone is excited that Miami lost because remember the Yes.We.Did seminar, when LeBron stated that with those three guys on the one team, Pat Riley could come down and play like he did in his Kentucky days no matter who else was on the team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Wade is rusty and frustrated. Bosh is.. I dunno. But that’s it. The biggest part of it is Boston played great. This is a Boston win. They took advantage of Miami’s early unfamiliarity. Ray made big timely shots. But I’m not worried. This is a looong season..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Did y’all really expect Bosh to be successful against Boston’s Bigs? He’s facing Shaq and KG all night, he’s most likely going to be a non factor. Miami is going to get ALOT better, but I thought I was watching Cleveland there for a second…LeBron was the only one doin work out there!

  • James aka…

    I was shocked how much their offense looked like Cleveland’s last year. Granted I watched maybe a quarter’s worth (3rd-4th) but it was all lebron all the time (it’s also apparent in the box-score). Wade will be better, but if he’s not, its actually surprising how inneffective bosh was playing off of lebron. It will be interesting to see how much is lost from his game now that he’s not allowed to spend 4-5 seconds sizing up the opposing 4 for a move like he did here in Toronto.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    They’ll see the Celts again in two weeks…..I’ll let you know then if they are for real or miles away from what they are hoping for.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh….and if they lose to Philly tonight, Spo Watch starts at 12:00a Thursday.

  • Ali

    First game and first of many appologize for these guys…

  • Bruno

    pat will be coachin by january

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    If the Heat win 60 games this season, it will be an accomplishment.

  • Yesse

    Well, i was certainly waiting for Heat to come of with a win. I am sure they will be able to improve from the way they just played, but last night didn’t look good.

  • A-Money

    Over under for Spo 15 games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=2213625472 Anthony

    cosign Eboy @ 9:29

  • http://staticseth.blogspot.com Seth

    They looked ugly in the opener, especially Wade. The trio not playing together in the preseason is obviously a factor in that loss.

  • letsmotor

    anyone else annoyed by wade saying this? who exactly thought they were going to go 82-0? i’ve never had much of a problem with wade, but in terms of assuming that everybody thinks you’re the greatest, this quote is right up there with lebron saying after losing to the Celtics in the playoffs that he’s spoiled everyone with his play all these years.

  • rainman10

    Is anyone else forgetting the fact that this is an aspiring contender, and they are starting Carlos Arroyo and Joel Anthony?? Maybe the worst starting PG and C in the league.

  • michael

    pat will be coaching by next week

  • mubwar

    no, pat will be coaching by new year. As a heat fan, i could not see either wade or bosh. stop shooting commercials n****s n get back on the floor like LeKing did all summer n preseason.

  • Ali

    What a minute, somebody just told me Rondo had more assists than the entire MIA team…WUUUWEEE, I’m making the Ed Lover C’mon Son face right now, Hahaha….

  • Jelte

    The Heat could not get off to a better start. Why? If there is anything that will motivate them to do anything and more than anyone else to get that ring, it will be a tough start of the season. They will be there, when the Finals arrive.

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  • Sizzle

    @letsmotor I think your taking his quote out of context. He more or less said that because the Media has labeled the Heat as “the next big thing” and he pretty much foresaw the backlash that would be coming after their first loss. To expect any team to go 82-0 much less 70-12 in the current NBA is nearly impossible. I’d give this team a few weeks to properly gel and I think it will be a different story. Besides if Wade and Bosh only half show up instead of completely disappearing like they did, it is a much closer ball game. Towards the end the Heat looked better, but in the beginning it was clear that everyone was not on the same page. This team will be a beast (especially when Mike Miller returns) but even more so after 2-3 weeks of constantly playing together. A loss for them this early against a team like Boston only helps them so much more as a learning experience.

  • KING

    @mubwar u r clearly a bandwagon fan…u was probably sayin da heat suck last year. Wade ain’t play in a month and idk what was wrong with bosh and don’t forget that your precious leb!tch james had 8 turnovers

  • Fat Lever

    Eboy, I dont think you have to worry about them losing to my Sixers tonight. If Miami is a work in progress, then the Sixers look to be a mess in progress. And letsmotor, I was thinking the same thing. It looks like the high expectations and subsequent frustrations are already getting to Wade.

  • letsmotor

    fair enough, sizzle. i guess it’s not fair to read it as being in the same vain as the lebron quote i mentioned. still, it bothers me a little bit that he’s in a way complaining about the high expectations. i mean, they pretty much invited those expectations once they threw their little party on stage in Miami that night, right? not saying that was Wade’s own personal idea or anything, but still.

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    Man, the first ‘not going 82-0′ comment dropped on opening night? It usually comes a week later, by a team that’s actually put a few wins together. Anyways, the only thing that happened is that Boston proved, once again, the importance of defense and chemistry. Otherwise, it’s just a game in October (as I’ve said since the schedules came out)

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    Man, the first ‘not going 82-0′ comment dropped on opening night? It usually comes a week later, by a team that’s actually put a few wins together. Anyways, the only thing that happened is that Boston proved, once again, the importance of defense and chemistry. Otherwise, it’s just a game in October (as I’ve said since the schedules came out)

  • t-sizzle

    bosh will be forever useless against athletic tough tall big men.. put him against a david west or something and he’ll drop you 30 15, but anytime he matches up against a kg or duncan, then uh oh miami..

  • Brian

    I wonder if Wade and Bron are still BFF’s after this? What a piece of garbage Bosh is.

  • KING

    @mubwar u a bandwagon heat fan. Why didn’t you just stay a cavs fan you are overlooking the fact that wade hasn’t played in a month…real heat fans know how to be patient especially arter the 15-67 season

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    I did expect you to go 82-0 and your apology is not accepted…

  • Lawrence

    Here we go again…Lakers-Boston finals in the making!!all teams have loaded in the off-season but i think lakers and boston will meet again in the finals – no doubt. Boston had acquired shaq and jermaine adding 2 functional big men in their roster.(try to see the boston roster lineup it’s a loaded and a tall lineup). while the lakers acquired barnes and blake. I think Boston has the advantage this time….Miami should load up their bench to have a chance to match the celtics. The “163″ trio can’t do everything!feel me?

  • rapsfan43

    Bosh sucks everyone knows that, how did the other Raptor stars do when they thought they were to good for Toronto? VC= half man half season, T-MAC can’t get out of the first round, Camby was alright, no Hall of famer. I’m glad to see him gone, now Andrea can finally lead. LeBron still looks like an MVP though, i’m rootin’ for the King.

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    There was some rust with Wade, but I think the main factor is him and Lebron get their points the same exact way, by creating their shots off the dribble. LBJ had it going, but you saw at time him pssing the ball because he felt the need to get Wade involved. But then when he passed it to him, he just stood their while Wade went one-on-one. And Wade did the same thing when LBJ had the rock.

    Until one of them learns to play off the ball their offensive game is going to be ugly. I don’t know how Bosh fits into this at all because I never really saw him play. But I think KG would be a good blueprint for him to follow in terms of playing with a bunch of slashers. For the most part KG stays out of the way and keeps himself as an outlet for kickout passes or dump offs on drives to the basket.

  • cadmus

    they are just over rated. they cannot win it all, their bench is weak..they cannot even compete with the other benches. they have the 3 best players in the nba, the remaining 12? nah! just bunch of so so players..

  • Cizzo

    I don’t know what everybody was thinking when it came to Miami? The Heat will be luke-warm at best! They are not a even a good defensive team…. and I’m so tired of the Boston like acqusition/run they think Miami is supposedly dispay, Miami is not a dominant team in this league…… no defense you won’t compete in this leaugue and what is there really to like about that sqaud? The Wheels just fell off the Bandwagon!

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    I’ve been saying this since, “The Decision” LeBron just doesn’t have enough talent around him to win.

  • JTaylor21

    Wow after one bad game you guys are already giving up on CB1? Come On Dun Sun, it wasn’t like KG was going all 08finals on him. KG only had like 10/10 while CB put up 8/8, so stop with the bosh sucks BS. The heat were not destroyed in the paint contary to popular believe, there main problem was first-half offense and Rondo, which is why either Chalmers or Bron has to be their starting PG not Carlos.

  • JTaylor21

    Cizzo, put down that bottle of sizzurp for a while. How the hell aren’t they not a great defensive team? They held the celts to 88 points and lost by only 8 points after scoring 9 FREAKING points in the first quarter. Do you know that last year they were the no.2 ranked D with Be Easy Beasley as a starter? Their defense was NOT the problem last night and it will only get better as the season progresses.

  • rich

    bosh was so unagressive it was like watching a 35 year old version of him. kg was talking dirty to him and he just looked away and shot jumpers? last years bosh could get 15 free throws and foul out their whole team spo has to light a fire under his ass

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Lebron dominated the ball way too much last nite and its gonna be tough to get Wade and Lebron hot on the same night because both need the ball in their hands.

  • http://www.twitter.com/chris_griff_3 Chris_Griff_3

    I’m more interested in seeing how Miami matches up with the Bucks and the Bulls. Both teams will cause tremendous mis-matches at the 1 and 5 positions, while also having greater depth from 2-4 to counter-balance Wade, James, and Bosh. Against the Bucks, Drew Gooden, John Salmons, and Corey Maggette should be a solid match-up for James and Bosh, and it’s not nearly as much of a mis-match as Brandon Jennings and Andrew Bogut would cause against whoever Miami throws out at the Point and Center positions.

  • Sizzle

    @letsmotor – I completely I agree, the whole stage thing was ridiculous. I mean first off the idea in itself of “Yes We Did” was uncalled for. “Yes We Did” what? Sign some marquee players in the off season. There was no need to have the huge celebration. There is a lot of hate coming their way right now and a lot of doubting, but if LA would have lost last night, would anyone be questioning there chances at a three-peat? Or if Miami beats the Celtics, would the conversation be, “Well how does Boston look to beat Miami in the postseason?” Bottom line is it is one game, the heat played terrible. It’s a long season. Not to knock baseball but I always hated during the season when Phillies fans would be off the wall upset when they lost. I mean, there are how many games left yet in the season? Now if this continues into mid-season then there should be cause for concern. It is way too early to jump ship and label this team a failure with a weak bench. Either way, I’m sure we’ll all be tuning in to watch win or lose.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The Heat were lucky that the Celts continously turned the ball over and the refs gave lebron call after call or else this would of been even worse.

  • The D Train

    This Miami thing is so ridiculous. 82 games in the regular season. Who cares if they lose one? There are no barometer games in October. Is every Miami loss going to accompanied by a slew of non-stories and people opining about the horrible decision LBJ made? And then everyone has to be subjected to the requisite Heat defenders, running to defend something they shouldn’t have to. It’s a long season. As much as I dislike Miami I think it’s ludicrous to think they won’t be there at the end. Give those guys time to gel, and let them work the kinks out. And if they lose a game or two from time to time…that’s part of playing an 82 game season.

  • kobesBESTfriend

    the Heat looked an awful lot like last years Cavs!THE KING DOMINATING THE BALL AND A BUNCH OF ROLE PLAYERS STANDING AROUND WATCHING!that is why Kobe will always be better than him.Mamba makes his teamates better.Lebron and wade dont look like they compliment each other at all meanwhile the Celtics look like they can sweep them in the playoffs if every1 is healthy!Shaq might be the best free agent signing of all!the Garden fans had it right…OVERATED!!!!!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Cosign Chris Griff. Both teams have enough swing players to throw at Lebron and Wade to go with the mismatches at 1 and 5.

  • Brian

    LeBron played great once the game was over.

  • T-Money

    Overreacting, much? 1- It was a one-possession game with a minute to go despite Miami scoring 9 points in the first quarter (!) and trailing by double digits all game long. This may be their toughest road game of the year considering who they were playing and the fact that they hadn’t really tested their lineup yet. 2- Miami played very well defensively. 3- Bosh and Wade missed tons of looks they normally makes. Bosh scored 24 pts per game on those elbow jumpers last year. Wade struggled with his footwork and his handles going to the rim. Rust.

  • robb

    No teamwork there, just a bunch of guys shooting off the dribble. I don’t know if the players are to blame, I didn’t see Spolestra making any kind of adjustments. Wade was terrible, but he’ll be playing at his level pretty quickly. The point is: if they keep playing with such individuality, a team like the Celtics will defeat them every time.

  • T-Money

    Now the bad stuff: 1- Arroyo and Chalmers are useless. There’s no need for point guards on this team, only shooters. House, Miller and Jones will be other perimeter guys to complete the rotation. 2- Spo seems to have trouble with subbing patterns. Anthony played the whole first quarter (wtf?!), he didn’t give enough tick to Z, he subbed LeBron for three minutes in the 4th quarter for absolutely no reason and Boston went on a 7-0 run. He has to figure this out. 2/3 of the Big 3 need to be on the floor at all times. 3- Where’s the half court offense? I didn’t see any set plays. 4- This team needs to run, run, run and run some more.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bron is a beast.
    That is all.

  • http://jayemmbee.blogspot.com Clutch Performer

    Co-Sign JTaylor, Why the hate for Bosh, Considering he played Shaq and KG and J’Oneal and Big Baby in one night when hes only used to KG and Baby in one night max, thats alot to ask, 4 quality big men to guard, he didnt get raped like Gasol did in 08 but he was far from the worse thing on that squad, Lebron and Wade were both making questionable decisions that night, cross court passes and what not, Wade is rusty, Bosh is Swamped, whats Brons Excuse? 31 points excuse used to fly in Cleveland

  • http://slamonline.com YKnot

    Barkley was already questioning Spo for taking Lebron out while he was hot. Spo watch started last night!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    To everyone saying it was a close game – keep in mind that the Heat’s comeback took place while Pierce was in the locker room and Shaq & KG were both on the bench. Still impressive that they came back, but when its starting 5 vs Starting 5, the celtics were up by 20.

  • IHaveADream

    Good TEAMS win in the NBA, not a collection of individuals. The Celtics are the best team behind the Lakers. The Heat, at this point, are Wade, LeBron, Bosh and the other guys. If that continues, they will lose to the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals. They will have to become a good team. When you completely overhaul your roster, unless you have a great coach like Doc Rivers or someone on that level, it’s going to take some time to gel. Maybe a full season.

  • ClydeSays

    The Heat will be better, but yeah. I never expected to see a Cav-like offense in this line-up. But I guess you have to expect that since Lebron has had the ball in his hands for 7 seasons (Wade too). They’ll have to adjust.

    I noticed that Lebron went off the minute Pierce went to the locker room to get checked out. That says alot for Pierce’s D.

    C’s were rusty too. I think they’ll be alot better once DWest is back and integrated with the team. Doc liked the West/Robinson combo off the bench in pre-season. Nice gutty win by the C’s.

  • Kobe

    Lebron is a great player, so is Wade. However, Bosh is overrated and doesnt have bench.

    Miami will contend but wont make it past the 2nd round.

  • JTaylor21

    Sure Bron only scored when the game was over, please he dominanted the entire 3rd quarter and along with house was the only reason the game was even that close. T-Money is right, Carlos and Chalmers are NOT needed for a team that already has 2 great ballhandlers and passers in Wade/Bron, though Chalmers would have done a better job on Rondo and on the offensive end than Carlos who was basically houdini out there. Also why wasn’t Stack out there to atleast infuse some offense into the second unit? Spo needs to really get his sub patterns together and force the team to push the ball more or Riley will.

  • Kobe

    Already making excuses in Miami???? Guess that means they REALLY didn’t mean they’d win six championships either..nice sound byte though.

  • http://sdjkflf.com Jukai

    I can’t see how there can be overreactions to this game.
    It shows that there is a legit issue with Wade/Bosh/Lebron playing together. Yes, it could be lack of preseason playing time and injury rust, or it could be a cohesive lack of talent which will take long into the season to fix.
    They also severely lack on the defensive end. This system of heavy switches and odd small-ball double teams really… really just sucked. The Celtics got so many uncontested threes.
    I also REALLY don’t like Arroyo playing at all. What is the point of him being there? He was dribbling ten seconds a possession away at the beginning of the game. House hit some big shots, Chalmers will be there for his D, why does the heat need Arroyo?
    Big Z also looked more valuable than Anthony and Spo better be prepared to put Big Z out more often for big teams like the Celts.
    I mean, there was a lot of issues, honestly. But Hey! They looked better than Phoenix. Fjdslkfsd..

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Everybody is a little too heated. Here’s what I noticed, although I only caught the second half of the game because of church.
    1. Bron is still an unstoppable beast on high pick and roll.
    2. Wade needs to get used to where he’s going to catch the ball and how he’s going to attack from there. I was very, VERY excited to see him take Rondo and Ray Allen into the post in the fourth on set plays. Wade can punish most of the small points who will be guarding him when Miami goes big.
    3. Bron needs to stop the jump passes.
    4. Chris Bosh needs to realize that it’s going to be like this all season. No more toiling in obscurity. The big stage is there every night now. He has to get his emotions under control, and just ball.
    5. Haslem is nice.
    6. James Jones and Eddie House know what to do with open shots.
    7. Boston and L.A. are the two deepest teams in the league and Boston’s second unit is pretty freaking scary.
    8. K.G. is healthy. Bad news.
    9. Pierce has something to prove after getting locked by Lebron last playoffs.
    10. Coach Eric needs to figure out how he wants to attack. And quickly.
    11. Scola is a beast on the block. He was taking it at Pau late in the game.
    12. Reports of Kobe’s demise have been greatly exagerrated.

  • MUBWAR

    @KING like i said before I am not a fan of a franchise, I am a FAN of WHEREVER the KING plays. Ima cheer for TWolves if he goes there. n having stars like Bosh n D3 makes that much more easy comoing June of next year when Kobe will cry outta four game sweep…

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    @Eboy, I felt the Spo Watch started last night. LOL

  • matt

    The won’t be a great team until they get a point guard who can play. They need to find a way to get andre miller or someone like him

  • IHaveADream

    Lakers-Celtics in the Finals. The Heat are two great players, one good player, and a bunch of average and below average players. Point guards will kill them. Post players will kill them.

  • IHaveADream

    The Heat are two great players, one good player, a bunch of average and below average players. The Lakers and Celtics will be in the Finals again.

  • The D Train

    You know who would have been a great get for Miami? Steve Blake. Doesn’t need the ball, doesn’t turn it over. Can knock down the open jumpers. I don’t like the Lakers, but I thought that was a nice pick-up for them. I think he does just enough blending into the background without taking much off the table that he would have been a great dude for Miami. I never remember watching a Portland game and thinking “man Blake is really hurting us.” That might be all Miami needs at the PG spot…

  • http://bulls.com airs

    late for class so

    kobe’s not slowing down, not my much at least.
    celtics are coming out of the east BUT
    heat are gonna push them to the brink in the ECF.

    and drose vs durant tonight, im geeked for that

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The Celtics didn’t even have Delonte West or Perkins last nite. That team is scary.

  • bashmo

    for their first real game playing together, they didnt fare TERRIBLY. lebron kept them in there. and the problem wasnt their offense not flowing, its just that the celtics played incredible defense thrughout the night. IT was easy to tell bosotn pressured the ball the whole night. Garnett defended Bosh very well, and Ray Allen defended Wade too.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The Lakers are so freaking deep it is ridiculous. I think they gave about 50% effort last nite without a 100% kobe and Bynum. They may actually be the team that pushes 65-70 wins.

  • Brian

    Stephen A. Smith reported last night that Sheed will be back with the C’s by the trade deadline and that he just didn’t want to play the whole year.

  • JalepinoSausage

    Boston have experience of playing together & overall experience, so yeah & Miami never had their 3point gunna in their either. Stop crying. Wade was rusty , Bosh was scared , Bron was Bron. (SIC) Only the mentally challenged will judge the season by this game. All they need now is more time playing together & an Effective post player NOT Jump shooter(Bosh) the D will come. Eddie will get another ring :-)

  • JalepinoSausage

    !! KAP MY @$$ !! :-)

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    The Heat will be fine. They ran into a buzzsaw last night, but if people think they’re gonna struggle against other teams like they did against the Celtic’s juggernaut defense, they are mistaken.

  • JTaylor21

    Kap, you need to lay off that purple haze for a while because it’s distorting your limited mind. The lakers gave 110% effort and then some and barely beat a team that had it’s best player play only 24 mins. Also like AllenP said kobe’s demise was false exxagerated and he’s perfectly fine. Get real and stop worshiping a false idol.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    SCOLA

  • vtrobot

    @ Brian: If that’s really true, this C’s team will be the greatest team ever put together. Not really, but sort of.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    So glad to see KG with his bounce & leg extension back. Luv it, now if we could get an injunction specifically for him so he can shout/howl/clap/chase Calderon around on all fours like in the good old days.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: I’m almost convinced that Allen was talking to you. I mean, you are THE most non-stop Kobe hater on this whole site. 8-20 for 27 points ain’t great (I notice you conveniently fail to mention his 7 assists, 5 boards and 11-12 from the FT line, but that’s typical of you), but it ain’t bad either considering you made it a point to note that his teammates helped bring the victory home (that’s what teammates are for) while your precious “King” has two of the best in the game running with him and they certainly couldn’t help him bring the victory home for Miami. So maybe you need to put down the “sizzurp” or “lay off that purple haze” and come out of that fantasy world you’re living in because you talk (everyday) as if you’re the one with the drug problem here.

  • Krisjanis

    If anyone thought that they’ll go even 52-30, then yall bunch of idiots.

  • al

    eboy, is it just me or is your coach subpar with the players?

  • al

    with the players he has i mean?

  • JTaylor21

    BCrawford, it’s cool I can take constructive criticism from you because you actually know what you’re talking about and I respect that. Anyways I’m too busy to type out an argument because my love aka 2k11 is calling me; I’m coming dear!

  • Cizzo

    @Jay Taylor it boils down to this, two great players and one okay player and a bunch of throw-in players are not going to cut it a system/chemistry based league.. This not NBA 2K yall this is real life. Pass CB1 highly suspect ass who else on their roster has been known to be a defensive presence? Even CB1 doesn’t have a rep for locking down or do he? Riddle me that? Boston is problably the second oldest team in the league and the Heat didn’t have clue on how to stop them. from the ground up Miami is built to defend at a Chamionship level… Sorry.. Everybody can score in this league……..

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: It’s cool. I’m about to fire up the ol’ PS3 myself. I’m 3 games away from completing my rookie season with the Jazz on My Player. I’m averaging 40pts/8asts per and I’ve got the MVP and ROY locked up. Plus Jazz are on the verge of tying Chicago’s 72-10 regular season record. Oh yeah… Bron had 8 TO’s last night. Kobe had 1.

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5493184 Jackie Moon

    “Sorry if everyone thought we were going to win more than 60 games”

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    uhh the only significant thing that happened last night was Pat Riley dusted off his old playbook after that 9 point first quarter. The Laker and the Heat games meant nothing more then the start to the season. Boston and Miami looked like it was the first game they’ve played in months, Kobe had no legs, there is 81 games left.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Damn, I typed a long, long comment that disappeared into the ether.
    Anyway, we saw a brand new team go against a well-oiled machine. I thought Miami would win it because they had more to prove, but it turns out they also have a lot more kinks.
    But, anybody who thinks the Heat are “exposed” is crazy. Wade played like crap, Bron was pressing and Bosh was shocked by the intensity (remember it’s been a while since he played in the playoffs). Like Eboy said, if the Heat don’t come out and completely destroy Philly, then be worried. But right now, chill out.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    NBK, that’s a pretty naive outlook.

  • John

    Obviously this is just one game and the first game of the season at that. The Heat’s Big 3 have only had 3 minutes together prior to last nights game. There will be some growing pains, It’s going to take a while for 3 players of that caliber to gel together and become a team. But once they do look out. I still see the Heat as the team to emerge out of the East at the end of the year.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Tarzan Cooper.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    why? The Pat Riley thing was a joke – And the Laker and Heat comment was 100% true, are you seriously gonna talk about the first game of the season in April, Jukai? You might talk about it to outline how much they all improved and to say how much healthier the Kobe looks, but other then that it doesn’t have a barring on anything. The Heat still don’t have their 4th best player for goodness sakes.

  • the Dude

    @Jelte: They will be there. Watching the Celts dismantle a dynasty.

    Wade is realizing his team is now LeBron’s team. And that team is not a contender.

  • T-Money

    Okay this is getting ridiculous. The Heat DO NOT need a pg. Do people realize that Mike Miller will play 30+ minutes with Wade and LBJ and all three will bring the ball up? Defense is fine too, actually very good. The Celtics bigs didn’t kill them inside and they still only allowed 88 pts.

  • T-Money

    I’m shocked to hear that from you Jukai. Miami scored 50 in the 2nd half after settling down and that was with Wade and Bosh not doing anything at all. Chill out.

  • Etheknickfan

    Lottery team.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Destroying Philly proves nothing. They’re supposed to do that. And again, I know it’s only one game, but it’s funny that now people are making excuses for Miami playing poorly just like they made excuses for LeBron up until opening night. Par for the course, I guess.

  • JTaylor21

    For real who the hell said the heat had no answer for the celtic offense? COME ON SON they held them to 88 points and KG only had 10 pts, so where does all the “getting killed inside” talk come from. The heat defense was pretty good for a team that played together for the first time and will only get better as the season goes on SCARY!!! @BCrawford, I just beat down the celts in GM5 to win the EC and I’m on my way to meet the Los….sike Dallas Mavs. I’m avg. 28/7/7 with bron (MVP), Wade’s avg. 26/5/4 and bosh put up 21/10 and we won 29 gms in a row to end the season. By the way, how the hell do you avg. 40 ppg with a rook and close to winning 70+ gms?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I see.
    So, Miami came out and slummed, and then got back in the game on the back of Lebron straight being unstoppable, and somehow acknowledging that is an excuse?
    Or pointing out that Wade missed the entire preseason and didn’t have any rhythm?
    I mean, Boston was clearly, CLEARLY the superior team at this point.
    Does taht mean they will be better the entire year?
    Bron didn’t play poorly. His turnover were an issue, but anybody who watched the game saw dude straight kill the team, starters or no starters.
    I mean, the Heat were within three points with less than two minutes and neither Wade nor Bosh played up to their standards. That seems like a good sign to me.
    If the Heat duplicate their horrible performance against a clearly inferior team, then there is a cause for concern. If they destory an inferior team, it proves that they lost not because the Big Three experiment is a failure, but because they faced a team that is currently superior.
    Seems like basic logic.

  • NickthaQuick

    Surprised no one has brought up Lebron’s Nike commercial “What should I do?” Thought Eboy and The Philosopher would be all over it today!

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    NBK: No, but here’s the thing: this was a statement game to tell the world that the Heat are for real. What did we see in the game?
    1) Bosh, Lebron, and Wade look clunky out there
    2) Spo not using any type of matchup issues
    3) Arroyo sucking
    4) Absolutely horrid, abysmal team defense
    To say that suddenly the team will be a 4th seed and wont make it past the second round would be dumb.
    Will everything I remember continue to April? I don’t know. But you don’t know either. There are clear issues with the Heat, way more than we were predicting, and now we need to see if they can hammer them out. I’m more worried about the awful defense more than anything.

  • Shem

    This may sound bias coming from a Raps fan but I don’t think Bosh is as good as people make them out to be. Unless the offense is centered around him I don’t think he can be effective. I don’t think he has the motivation to be a KG type defender in a couple years. Bosh is a top 5 PF but not a leader as well as a defensive force. He needs the ball in his hands but doesn’t have that leadership element for the amount of touches he needs.. Bosh needs to learn to play ball without having to score

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    ^Agreed.
    Way too much spectating on defense, regardless of how many points Boston scored. Rotations were slow and non existent. Bron and Wade have to be more aggressive and attentive and wreak havoc.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Like I said, Boston came out and won 18 of their first 20 games after assembling a team of guys that never played together before. I remember it being said (by the players and on this site) that because of these guys playing together in the Olympics and in the summer that they know each others games…blah, blah, blah. So what LeBron almost won the game. Is anybody REALLY surprised to see that? He did it in Cleveland for 7yrs. I acknowledged that he played well (turnovers notwithstanding) but this is a TEAM game. DWade…bad hammy plus babymama drama. Missed the whole preseason. He gets a pass. Chris Bosh…what’s his excuse? Arroyo, no assists. Are you kidding me? Joel Anthony? Don’t even get me started. Like I said, if they beat up on Philly, so what. They aren’t even in the conversation anyway. I’m only interested in seeing them play against teams that are actually “legit.” Yes, Miami will get better, but it’d timeout for the LeBron Fest, the TEAM sucked as a whole. Pointing out what an individual did or didn’t do just amounts to more excuses.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I don’t get it.
    If the team played well, why should we stop making “excuses” for Lebron?
    Shouldn’t we stop making excuses for the team?
    And, since the team played poorly mainly because the two other stars not named Lebron didn’t play up to par, I don’t understand how this game was proof of Lebron’s failings as a player?
    That’s the disconnect.
    If it’s about what Bron did, then let’s talk about what he did. If it’s about the team’s failings, then let’s talk about that.
    There are three serious championship contenders right now, Miami, L.A. and Orlando. Fringe teams include San Antonio and OKC. Teams like Chicago, Atlanta, Houston make up that third tier.
    All of those teams outside of Chicago have had several years with the same core and same system. Miami has not. I think this is going to be overcome against most inferior team by the sheer talent the Big Three possess, but against the better teams, they are going to have to give an even better effort.
    Last night, they didn’t get that from 2/3 of the Trio. It seems obvious why they lost. Bosh and Wade didn’t get it done, and Bron was initially loathe to ignore them.
    Arroyo and Anthony didn’t look good, but Eddie House, James Jones, Big Z and Haslem looked fine.
    Unless this was a sign that Wade can’t do his thing playing with Lebron, and that Bosh can’t even handle the pressure of being the third wheel in Miami, then I wouldn’t be that worried.
    The only thing that I found troubling, which other folks have said, is that their defense was not spectacular. That should have been the one area that rhythm wasn’t a problem, and it wasn’t. Bron and Wade were not playing the sort of defense they need to play to make things easier on their role players and that has got to change, first. From jump street, Boston played much better defense. But I also remember Boston being unable to win a road playoff game for several rounds that year.

  • Conoro

    Nobody mentions Boston missing several threes when nobody was within five feet of them (Allen, Robinson, etc.) at the beginning of the game. It should have been a 25-point game at halftime. /Miami will get better, but so shall Boston. Try not to discredit the Celtics.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    For the record, I’m not writing Miami off by any means or even implying that they suck even though last night, they did. And once again, it was only one game and I understand that. But all anybody wants to talk about after the loss is what LeBron did. So what. He did what he does and I suspect that after a couple of games under them, Wade and Bosh will do what they do too. But that’s still only 3 guys…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    It’s one game agains the best defense in the league. They were horrible as a unit, they only scored 30 points in the first half on 29% shooting and had a chance to win the game. And they were playing a team that’s been together save for 2 guys for 3 years. It holds no weight on the end of the season or on how good either teams will be, I’m sorry it just doesn’t, the fact that they got the game overwith and proved they can stick with the defending ec champs even when they shoot, communicate, well frankly just play horrible is probably a confidence boost more then anything. To expect them to come out and prove something by beating a team that goes deep in the playoffs and starts every season with a bang is setting them up to be a “disappointment” whata joke to judge anything long term from this game

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think it’s more than three guys, but I understand what you’re saying.
    I really believe that if Bron, Wade and Bosh play to their full potential, they allow those role players to do only what they do well, and all of them have very good talents in certain areas.
    Well, except for maybe Arroyo. Lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    If LeBron doesn’t get hot the way that he did (with Paul Pierce not even in the game), Miami loses by 20+, easily.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    I picked them to win. So, I can’t say they should have won. If they played well, they should have won even with all Boston’s experience and depth. They played horrible, mainly beacuse Boston played great, and Boston will have that same team the entire year.
    So, to be honest, it means that Boston and L.A. are clearly the two best teams in the League right now just based on talent and how they use that talent. Miami has the ability to be better, but it won’t be easy.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And yes, Carlos Arroyo is AWFUL. I could’ve gotten at least 5 dimes last night playing with those 3 guys!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Lebron’s points by Quarter: Q1-4; Q2-6; Q3-15; Q4-6. So other than the third quarter, when Pierce was out of the game, the Celtics were up 20 and resting the starters, Lebron didn’t score a lot. In the fourth quarter, with the game on the line, he only scored 6 points. Like I said earlier, his stats are misleading. He played well…he wasn’t a beast.

  • LD

    They can win all the regular season games they want. That’s the one thing The King is good at.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Agreed Allen but we didn’t need that game to know that

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Only scoring 6 points a quarter means you get 24 for the game…
    Are we saying that 24 is a bad scoring average, or that Lebron “only” scoring six points int he third is a sign that he struggled late.
    I think the biggest problem was the turnovers and the defense for Bron. He didn’t lock up like I expected and he made bad decisions with the ball. But, he met all scoring expectations and should have exceeded them.
    Seriously, if Bron scores 24 in the game, and Wade and Bosh play like they’re capable of playing, wouldn’t the Heat have had a great shot at winning that game?

  • IHaveADream

    Let’s not act like LeBron played a much better game than Kobe did last night, for all you LeBron lovers. He only made two more shots than Kobe did when you think about it. And he had more assists.

  • JTaylor21

    Diesel he ONLY scored 6 points because the coach decided to stupidly rest him at the beginning of the fourth after he had just dominated the entire 3rd quarter and was on a roll but the coach decided to see whether Wade could get it going by himself and wade just wasn’t his usual self out there. They do play the Sixers tonight so we will be able to see how well Wade performs out there because if he struggles due to either rust or the hammy, the should lean on Bron more until Wade gets back to Flash mode. @BCrawford, how can you say it’s just 3 guys? House was the second best heat player last night, Haslem is probably one of the best big men off the bench in the L, Stack still has some scoring juice left, and Miller will be back from the injury. That’s about 4 guys off the bench right there and I haven’t even mentioned Z and Chalmers (who should have started last night).

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Allen, you make a good point, but that wouldn’t have happened anyway. This is the Boston Celtics we’re talking about. 3 guys don’t get off against them at the same time.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: This is real basketball, not a video game. Eddie House will show up in spurts. He won’t do what he did last night for an entire season. When it’s a big game, he shows up. When it’s not, it’s “Where’s Eddie”? Mike Miller is already injury prone as it is. A thumb injury on his shooting hand is the worst possible thing that could’ve happened. Udonis, I’ve got no problem with and Jerry Stackhouse hasn’t had any “scoring juice” since ’03. And Big Z? Whatever…

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I’m saying ‘only’ scoring 6 shows he struggled late. If he truly did recognize that his team needed him to score more, than do it in the crunch when it matters most. Again, I think he played well. I just don’t think he played like a beast. That being said, I think in order for this team to be successful, Lebron needs to score less. Lebron at 20,8,8 is better for this team than Lebron at 30,4,4. The heat will work if Lebron takes a back seat scoring wise to Wade while helping out Bosh down low. When Lebron plays like he did in Cleveland, the offense ends up looking eerily similar to Cleveleand’s.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    What’s funny?
    When I said the team should start off Lebron-Wade-Miller-Bosh-Big Z, I was laughed at.
    Now? Looks like the pretty wise decision considering how AWFUL Arroyo is for the team, and how bad Joel played against major big men.
    Cut Arroyo, bring in Riley, start Big Z and bring in Joel to wreak havoc on the smaller second units, have Bosh move more without the ball, and start working matchups!
    And enough with the complaints about Lebron/Wade controlling the ball. Would you complain about Magic Johnson hogging the ball??

  • IHaveADream

    If you’re going to cut the team some slack, cut the coach a little slack too.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai
    Who laughed at you?

  • Sam

    Wade is getting REALLY pissed.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Random question:
    Would you trade Peja for Antawn Jamison?
    I would.

  • IHaveADream

    @Allenp
    That would give NO a lineup of Paul, Ariza, Jamison, West, and Okafor potentially…the question is would Cleveland do it. I don’t think they would.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    One game in, this comment section is already unbearable. Lebron sure galvanizes the ish outta folks.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    IHAVEADREAM
    If I was Cleveland’s GM I would seriously consider it. I’m pretty sure Peja’s contract comes off the books next year, while Jamison has like three years left and he’s 34.
    He’s not getting any better, your team is still going to suck whether you have him or Peja. Dump Jamison, concede this season and get $15 million in cap space to go along with the $12 million you got when you didn’t resign Lebron. that’s nearly $30 million in cap space to start your rebuilding in earnest, plus a high draft pick.
    Makes sense for Cleveland, no?
    Honestly, I think it’s a worse move for New Orleans than Cleveland.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    They lost, everyone get over it, they will lose alot more, because if the Cleveland Lebron continues to dominate the ball, no matter if he is on or off. Wade will continue to force shots to get his and Bosh will have to shoot jumpshots and pray they get in at least 60% of the time. Lebron played like he was on the Cavs and Wade tried to play like it was the Heat of last year. They both need to talk, and define their roles on the team, because I only seen like 3 or 4 plays ran for Bosh who is a consistent 20 10 guy. Also nobody expected them to go 82-0, but I honestly feel they will lose to the 76ers tonight. Especially if Lebron continues to take bad 3′s praying they go in, or Wade tries to hard to get his points. BOOK IT!!

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    The Seed: if they honestly win then, can we talk about how they’re 100% gelling then? What a dumb comment.
    Also, Phoenix needs to try and trade Jamison for Turkoglu, straight up. Jamison is who Phoenix WANTS Turkoglu to be right now.

  • IHaveADream

    @Allenp
    I agree with you. But it’s going to be hard for Cleveland to lure in a good free agent. Apparently, Cleveland isn’t the best city to live in. And their owner has proven himself to be a hothead. I think they will have to rebuild with the draft. New Orleans is solely focused on keeping Chris Paul or at least they should be (even though I think it’s apparent that he’s leaving when he can regardless of what they do).

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    @Jukai
    Just because they begin to win games, doesn’t mean they have gelled yet. Their are some egos on Wade and Lebron. ALso if think Wade’s camp isn’t saying that ESPN is calling the team Lebron’s team and Lebron looked good and you didn’t, we are not being honest. Lebron camp is probably giving him props for the game. Bosh doesn’t have a camp, but if he did they would say, why in the world did you join this team. ALso with Wade and Lebron playing the same position and teams making them jumpshooters, it will be a long season, because they can gell on certain nights, but it will be more one on one basketball like Wade and Lebron did last night. BOOK IT!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    The Heat were completely lost out there, I thought they’d have there playing style worked out by now. Riley will come in if they keep struggling, this is going to be interesting if LeBron is the clear no.1 man.

  • IHaveADream

    I think, regardless of how great of friends they are, for his career, D-Wade may end up wishing that it was just him and Bosh or him and another good big man along with some shooters. It will never be publicized if there ends up being some ego wars here, but every star player has an ego and each star player wants to get their stats along with winning. Period.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    The Seed: Uh, I’m more worried about team defense instead of Lebron or Wade gelling…

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    Did anyone else even BEGIN to think Lebron wouldn’t be the number 1 man? Everyone is so shocked, but Lebron’s so clearly better than Wade and Bosh that it’s not funny. Lebron sliced through the same D that Wade and Bosh were totally ineffective against once Lebron sat. Check it!

  • Jay

    I still think Allen Iverson should wait a bit before he signs that Turkey deal, the Heat role players struggled and Arroyo and Chalmers aren’t good PG’s, I could still see Riley making a call to AI to run the point, like this month!.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Jukai
    Lebron should have went the Knicks if he wants to continue to dominate the ball, like his Cavs years. Plus Amare can play in the post and Bosh can’t, which would have benefited Lebron even more. Also since Bosh can’t post, Lebron can’t post, Wade/Lebron needing driving lanes. Teams will play like Celtics and make them jump shooters. I would take Lebron on Knicks over Lebron on Heat. Lebron made bad move, Bosh made the WORST move. Wade will come to hate this and like someone stated will wish it was just him and Bosh and good jump shooters. BOOK IT!!

  • Blackphantom

    Of course they weren’t gonna go 82-0, do you know how hard that even sounds????? But of course they’ll be great once they get their chemistry together.

  • IHaveADream

    @Jukai
    I don’t think LeBron is that much better than Wade. Wade is basically playing preseason ball right now. When he is 100%, there’s not much of a gap between him and Bron in my opinion.

  • http://www.bunzl.com.au OZ Baller

    Give them time to learn to fly – Just like the early Bulls.

  • http://www.danchamb.com.br Lz – Cphfinest3

    Lebron James moved South.. and Gloria James kept riding West…

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Once, dwade gets right, they will be rolling. I wish they would have got amare instead of bosh. Amare can score on anyone.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ Allenp- is that the rumors now. Because if it is I’d do that in a heartbeat too. Peja won’t play for my cavs so they could work a buy-out. Twan might push for that because he’s unhappy.. If that rumor is true what are they waitin for? Get it done Grant please!

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Jukai 7:10 – a little premature there.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ Jukai – there is absolutely no way my cavs trade a bad contract to a worse contract.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn, what happened to the big bad celts tonight losing to the lowly cavaliers. It’s over for them and they might not win more than 50 gms, you like the sarcasm there celts fans. It just goes to show that during the first week of the season, fans shouldn’t be panicking and thinking it’s over already. Bos 1-1, Mia 1-1, and the BIG BAD cavs 1-0 Who would have thunk it??

  • Jackie Moon

    Damn that Cleveland team sure does stink without Lebron! They won’t be beating any premier teams, even if they are on a back-to-back!

  • Jackie Moon

    JJ Hickson, after Cavs beat Boston tonight: “Sorry if everyone thought we were going 0-82″

  • JTaylor21

    OKC is going to be a problem again and KD is a Top-10 player but the BEST player vs the Bulls tonight was Westbrook NOT kd,. Like I said before and will continue to Westbrook is the MOST important player for the thunders and will be the biggest reason to whether they can challenge LA out west.

  • JTaylor21

    One more thing, DAMMMMMMN BGriff, you scary. Dude just had two of the BEST dunks so far this season. I’m telling y’all dude is Karl Malone with Bron hops mixed with DHow’s rebounding skills. I’m officially going to try and watch every clipper game humanly possible.

  • Cheers

    It’s D wade team. When Lebron scored 30+, Miami lost. When Wade scored 30+, Miami won. Just kidding, its only the beginning of the season, so not is much played into it. Dammm Lebron take care of the ball, another turnovers prone game for lebron.

  • http://kb24.com DreXnaW21

    they’re not gonna make 2nd round in the playoffs this gonna be known as #1 in the Top 10 Disappointments of the 2010 – 2011 NBA Season

  • http://yahoo.com christopher

    just shut the F%$#K UP!just do your job!!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Maybe Lebron should have stayed in Cleveland, its funny but I would take Lebron on the Cavs team vs. Wade/Bosh Heat.

  • Jackie Moon

    Wow JTaylor and I agree on something: Blake Griffin is beastly, and the Clippers are a must-see team with him and Eric Gordon.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    haha @ Jackie Moon 10:25

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