Friday, October 15th, 2010 at 2:21 pm  |  136 responses

Just A ‘Dream’

An in-depth look at why Olajuwon would not have defeated Jordan in the Finals.

1993-94 Season

The ’93-94 Rockets team that took home the NBA Championship won 58 games during the regular season. In contrast, the Bulls WITHOUT Michael Jordan won 55 games that same year but fell to the New York Knicks in the second round of the Playoffs.

That year, the Rockets – coached by Rudy Tomjanovich – had a first seven playoff roster that looked like this:

Hakeem Olajuwon – C
Otis Thorpe – PF
Robert Horry – SF
Vernon Maxwell – SG
Kenny Smith – PG
Sam Cassell (rookie) – 6th Man
Mario Elie – SG/SF

Meanwhile, the Bulls – led by Phil Jackson – probably would’ve played their first seven this way:

Luc Longley – C
Horace Grant – PF
Scottie Pippen – SF
Michael Jordan – SG
BJ Armstrong – PG
Toni Kukoc – 6th Man
Steve Kerr – PG

For added emphasis, let’s go 12-deep — which is the number of active players allowed on a playoff roster — and look at the remainder of both benches.

For the Rockets, it looked like this: Scott Brooks (now Head Coach of the Oklahoma City Thunder), Carl Herrera, Matt Bullard, Chris Jent and Earl “The Twirl” Cureton.

For the Bulls, their bench would’ve most likely looked something like this: Pete Myers, Bill Wennington, Bill Cartwright, Scott Williams and John Paxson.

It could be argued that the retirement of Jordan led to Myers being on the team in the first place, but keeping it “one hunid,” Pete was garbage and so was Jo Jo English, so what’s the difference? This is after all a “what if” scenario, right?

Either way, neither bench looks impressive, but the advantage would clearly have to go to the Bulls. Like his current Lakers squad now, PJax had length back then and that makes a world of difference in basketball.

Perhaps Bullard and Jent could’ve stretched Chicago’s D with their outside shooting, but with the defense the Bulls played, how long would that have lasted?

And yes, Olajuwon was better than every big the Bulls had, but Phil had the luxury of having three 7-footers, one 6-10 guy, and 24 fouls to use on Olajuwon. Say what you want, and I know that Hakeem is great, but over a seven-game series, those factors will start to come into play and constantly being fouled will eventually wear a player down. Look no further than the “Jordan Rules” – the Detroit Pistons strategy, not the book – for evidence of that.

If the Bulls could’ve found a way to somehow frustrate Olajuwon, the rest of his team would’ve fallen in right behind him.

Conversely, Houston would’ve had no answer for the three-headed monster of Jordan, Pippen and Toni Kukoc. No matter what Rudy T would’ve tried defensively agaimst the trio, it wouldn’t have worked. And as much as I loathe Horace Grant, he would’ve been a factor too.

So had the Bulls, with Michael Jordan, and the Rockets met in the 1994 NBA Finals, it would’ve been a great series, but it is of my opinion that the Bulls probably would’ve dispatched the Rockets in seven games even without homecourt advantage which is purely speculative considering the Bulls with Jordan probably would’ve won more than 55 games.

1994-95 Season

Once again the Houston Rockets took home another NBA championship winning back-to-back titles, sweeping Shaquille O’Neal and Penny Hardaway’s Orlando Magic squad in the Finals. The Rockets finished 47-35 during the regular season and oddly enough, so did the Bulls who played the first 65 games that year without Michael Jordan.

The Bulls were 34-31 through their first 65 games but won 13 of their last 17 once Jordan returned from baseball. Conversely, the Rockets started ’94-95 on a tear winning their first nine games of the regular season and were 39-26 through their first 65 games. But they faltered toward the end winning only eight of their final 17 games.

Also, both rosters had undergone a bit of change as well.

For starters, the Bulls were without Horace Grant who was now in Orlando playing for the Magic. Also, Chicago added Ron Harper to replace John Paxson, and when Bill Cartwright decided to hang up his razor-sharp elbows, the Bulls replaced him with Will Perdue.

After the Portland Trail Blazers decided that his services were no longer needed, Clyde Drexler was traded back “home” to Houston and was once again reunited with his former college teammate at the University of Houston, Olajuwon. But outside of that and a few other changes to their role players, the core of the Rockets playoff roster stayed intact as they returned seven players from the championship squad the year before.

One thing that needs to be mentioned before comparing the two rosters is this: There is no way the Bulls would’ve won only 47 games that year had Jordan played the whole season. Even without Horace Grant, whose contributions were sorely missed. The last time the Bulls won 47 games with Jordan was during the ’88-89 season. Since that time, the Bulls had won no less than 55 games with MJ on the roster.

I won’t speculate as to how many games they could’ve or would’ve won, but I can say with certainty it would’ve been more than 47.

The Rockets starters and first two guys off the bench in the Playoffs that year looked like this:

Hakeem Olajuwon – C
Robert Horry – PF
Mario Elie – SF
Clyde Drexler – SG
Kenny Smith – PG
Sam Cassell – 6th Man
Chucky Brown – SF

The remainder of the Rockets bench was this: Pete Chilcutt, Charles Jones, Zan Tabak, Vernon Maxwell and Carl Herrera who only played in one game during the Playoffs that year.

For the Bulls, the first seven would’ve been this:

Luc Longley – C
Toni Kukoc – PF
Scottie Pippen – SF
Michael Jordan – SG
BJ Armstrong – PG
Steve Kerr – 6th Man
Will Perdue – C

The rest of the Bulls bench: Bill Wennington, Jud Buechler, Ron Harper, Pete Myers and Corie Blount.

If anything, this would’ve been the year where the match-ups between the two teams were a lot more even. Horry vs. Kukoc would’ve potentially been a wash, so would Kenny Smith vs. BJ Armstrong. But Scottie Pippen would’ve rendered Mario Elie useless and Clyde Drexler would’ve had flashbacks and nightmares from what Jordan did to him back in the ’92 Finals. And as far as Hakeem goes, the same rules would’ve applied: three 7-footers, a 6-9 guy, and 24 fouls to use on him.

As for the two benches, once again, advantage: Bulls.

When Vernon Maxwell pulled a Gilbert Arenas and faked an injury because he was upset that Clyde “The Glide” was taking his minutes, the Rockets subsequently dismissed him giving them virtually no bench production whatsoever. Now, had they been facing the Bulls instead of the Magic, perhaps Houston would’ve taken a different course of action given the Jordan factor, but still, the Bulls bench was deeper and overall, better purely from a talent perspective.

Once again, another interesting Finals match-up, but I think the Bulls would’ve had a much easier time against this Rockets team than with the one from the year prior and the Bulls, with Jordan, would’ve more than likely had homecourt advantage this time around.

Additionally, it’s worth noting that the Rockets were ranked 12th in team defense that year and even without Jordan for most of the year, the Bulls were ranked second.

So my take? Bulls in five.

I’ll admit, playing the “what if” game is always fun, and as much as I enjoyed watching Hakeem Olajuwon play throughout his career, I’m extremely skeptical of his ability to lead his Rockets to a victory over the Bulls against Michael Jordan in a seven-game NBA Finals series with a Larry O’Brien trophy on the line.

Love him, hate him, whatever, the ‘90s belonged to Michael Jordan. His retirement gave a lot of people – players and coaches – hope and inspired them to play their best basketball in order to compete for a title. But that window of opportunity was a small one and proof of his dominance was solidified when MJ returned to the game full-time, leading the Bulls to another three-peat and the best regular season record ever in the history on the NBA in ’95-96.

Eight-straight Chicago Bulls championships is only a fairytale because Jordan did take a hiatus from playing. But had he never left, it’s pretty obvious that there wasn’t a team in the NBA during that time period that could’ve beat him. Not even the great Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon and his Houston Rockets squad whose best chance to win would’ve been in ’94, but based on his resume, you’d have to think that MJ would’ve somehow found a way.

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  • Michael

    Too much Bias BryanC. There is absolutely no way that you can say that the Bulls or the Rockets would of one for sure had MJ not left. In your article you talk about “what ifs”, this piece is a “what if”, its just you speculating on what would of happened. Its a nice article but and I think the bulls probably would of won at lease one of the years he was gone.

  • http://nbaforum.net/superdroid.nettodownloadthisapp Holy Karron

    maybe maybe

  • letsmotor

    the more i think about the way those championship rockets teams played, the more the current magic start to seem like a watered down version of them, with loads of three point shooters waiting to get open once someone doubles their dominant center. the difference between them, i guess, is the difference between dwight and hakeem. and until the magic realize that and come up with a new plan, or until dwight starts to really be an offensive force, they’re going to have a tough time getting over the hump…

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Teddy is just basing everything off stats because it helps his argument which is fundamentally weak. He refuses to take the entire comeback situation and view it in its proper and obvious perspective and instead chooses to focus on one aspect of it for the sake of making a point. He knows what it is though and his argument won’t hold up in any basketball conversation. But that’s his stance and he’s obviously sticking to it no matter how incoherent and like I said, fundamentally incorrect it actually is.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    To quote Jay-Z: “Please leave it alone, don’t throw rocks at the throne…”

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Michael Jordan… The best that ever lived. The best that ever did it.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    To expand on that , the only way Jordan loses if he had kept playing is if he lost that fire that he had. Which would have lasted at most for one season. No way he loses in the finals to someone and doesn’t turn it into motivation to destroy the NBA the following year.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And Nick is biased to the point of ridiculousness. Vernon Maxwell and Mario Elie standing a chance against Jordan and Pippen? Be for real. Nobody in their right minds would ever say such a thing. Ever.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    The funny thing is , the Bulls had no business winning in 91 either. Their roster from 1-12 did not stand up to the Lakers roster. So what would be the difference? The difference is always Jordan.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    If the Rockets (and not just Hakeem) were this awesome squad like everyone here wants to suggest, how come they never made it back to the Finals after ’95? How come they didn’t dominate in the West (the weaker conference) like the Bulls did in the East and play in multiple Finals? The fact is, if Houston was really THAT good, we would’ve saw a Bulls/Rockets Finals because Jordan and his squad was present and accounted for. So no disrespect to anybody, but please, kill that noise. I’m not taking anything away from Hakeem (who was a GREAT player) and his ‘ships, but winning two while the League’s greatest player is on hiatus and then when he returns you can’t even lead your squad back to the Finals ONCE — in a weak conference — says something about how good that team WASN’T.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    I watched the 1991 Finals recently.
    Man, was basketball good back then.
    That is all.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And before people start talking that ’95 crap, by “return,” I mean when MJ came back and played a FULL season. Not just 17 games.

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    Bryan, a couple of things: first, calling people biased when your line of argument is, to quote, ” this is Michael freaking Jordan we’re talking about, people” is likely a poor argumentative strategy. Second, don’t abstract what I said. It WOULD be rediculous and biased to say that Ellie and Maxwell could stop Jordan. No one could stop Jordan. That’s silly. My only point was that Ellie/Maxwell/Horry/Dream in the middle provide a bigger challenge to MJ than the bulls frontcourt would to Hakeem. They certainly wouldn’t stop Jordan, but Jordan would have a bigger hill to climb than Dream would against Wennington and Co.

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    The argument about the Rockets after 1995 is interesting but irrelevant. The hypothetical has nothing to do with post-1995. The bulls post-1995 were better than the rockets, no doubt. Hakeem was 34 at that point, and I will freely admit he didn’t age as well as Jordan (but then,who did?). Drexler slowed down too. The Rockets Front office made a mistake in trading the Rockets best young players (Horry and Cassel) for an also past-his-prime Barkley. There are a ton of reasons why the post 1995 rockets couldn’t get it done, and you’re right, but you’re also attacking a straw man that has no relevance to the discussion at hand (1994 and 1995).

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    In the “arguments that are relevant” category, the rockets persist to be 5-1 in the regular season against the Bulls during the first three-peat(as I mentioned before), and it’s undeniable that the rockets supporting cast improved between then and the Championship years. Yes, there is a lot of noise on both sides of the argument–but the ONLY relevant data–the head to head matchups while jordan was playing–DECISELVELY favor the Rockets.

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    Bryan C–I just want you to know that I mean no disrespect by this argument jihad i just went on. I coach a college debate team, so, i, uhhh, get a little excited by the whole arguing thing. I know we’ll never agree (I grew up with a dream poster on my wall, you likely had the jordan facsimile), but it’s entertaining to pontificate nonetheless.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    The REAL reason the Bulls couldn’t top the Magic (or Houston) is because they didn’t have Horace Grant or Dennis Rodman. People act like Jordan could have carried the Bulls to a chip himself, without a TEAM–he played GREAT basketball during the ’95 playoffs. They just didn’t have an answer for Shaq, and they sure as heck wouldn’t have had an answer for Dream, had they somehow managed to get by Orlando. It’s no coincidence the Bulls tore the league a new one when they got Dennis.

  • http://dsgfjklf.com Jukai

    Bryan Crawford: I really feel it’s unwise to tell someone “Vernon Maxwell and Mario Elie standing a chance against Jordan and Pippen? Be for real.” when you said that Bill Wennington, Will Perdue and Luc Longley would stand a chance against Hakeem. You can’t use an argument and get defensive someone else using the same line of logic.
    Teddy really… has no argument though… really not sure what he’s doing here…
    Jordan didn’t really play great basketball in 95. He kept breaking the triangle because he wasn’t used to it and had quite a few turnovers because he couldn’t drive to the basket as easily, thicker legs. I mean, or should we pretend that didn’t happen?

  • Jay

    just gonna say.. I loved MJs HOF speech. Same as its always been, he did it his way and didnt just say the same old same old like most people.. Dude will always be the GOAT to me and that speech should of shown people that this guy is really a one of a kind!

  • KB8toSG8

    @Bryan…..first of all, Bulls didn’t win due to Jordan in 91. 91, Phil exploited the matchups and also put Pippen on Magic. And no, they weren’t worse from 1-12. Jordan was owned in the first game vs the Lakers in 91. Only after Pippen was put on Magic by Phil, the Lakers lost the edge. Sheesh,some guys always think adding MJ to any ish = Championship. No. Phil was the MAIN reason Lakers lost in the Finals that time. BOOK IT.

  • KB8toSG8

    @Bryan Crawford……that’s the best argument you could come up with? Hakeem couldn’t lead his team to the finals when MJ played a full season and hence his championships are void? Say, LBJ SUCKS. No, not his team, but LBJ. Since he didn’t bring his team to the Finals right??? Hakeem was 34-35 years old in 96 I think surrounded by a over-the hill sort of team, unlike the Bulls whose players were relatively in their prime. It also doesn’t help the fact that the Bulls were loaded from 1-12. The Rockets, due to poor front-office work couldn’t keep on.

  • KB8toSG8

    Co-sign Nick. You make great arguments. And @Bryan Crawford…..stop using the stats only when you find them advantageous. Fact is, Jordan still averaged 31 points. Isn’t that enough from MJ? Don’t tell me the Magic, which the Rockets swept in the Finals managed to shut down all the others now…..Don’t tell me that MJ could’ve done more if he had played. And to add to that, the games weren’t even close except for the first one.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Jukai: You are incorrect, sir. I never said that Chicago’s bigs would’ve stood a chance against Hakeem. I acknowledged on more than one occasion that he would’ve destroyed them both in the article and in the comments. I simply said that the Bulls were longer and strategically, they could’ve thrown different looks at him and potentially wear him down with fouls.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Nick: No disrespect taken. I’m just of the impression that the MJ factor is one that can’t be overlooked because in the 90′s, there’s no proof that says otherwise. And in 95-96, the Rockets roster was the same as the championship team from the year before. Houston lost in the 2nd round. Even if by acknowledging that the roster was different in 96-97 and 97-98, you still have a back-to-back NBA championship team getting bounced in the 2nd round the season after the feat was achieved. Of all the teams in the NBA that has won consecutive titles, the following season, only the Rockets have lost in the 2nd round.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @KB8: My arguments have been stat free, sir. So what are you talking about?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Good arguments from the people supporting the Rockets. I do know that Vernon Maxwell was a very good defender and actually played Jordan well over the course of his career. I just feel like the Rockets didn’t have enough scorers around Hakeem on the perimeter to fully exploit the obvious post mismatch. I just imagine Jordan and Pippen destroying the confidence of the Rockets scorers and forcing Hakeem to have to do too much on both ends, which would wear him down. Now, the year where the Bulls didn’t have Horace Grant or Rodman, well I think the Rockeets had their best shot, but I’m not convinced that Drexler would have wanted it with Mike. I just donOh’t know.
    So given Jordan’s supporting cast (his running mate was the second best wing player in the league) I think he would have pulled it out. Not because Jordan was so great, but because he had a better overall team.
    Oh, and the Rockets were a blown pick and roll switch by Barkely away from meeting the Bulls in the Finals. It’s not like Hakeem didn’t do his thing, Chuck just failed on defense. As usual.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Allen, actually, it wasn’t a blown pick-and-roll switch by Barkley. Utah scored on an out of bounds play. Stockton got the ball and Barkley didn’t get to him in time. Dude hit a great shot. I don’t blame Chuck for that though. People get jammed up in out of bounds situations all the time.

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    Yeah that wasn’t chuck’s fault–Sloan drew up a good play and stockton hit a tough shot. Ugh. Nightmares.

    And in 1995-1996, the rockets had a bunch of injuries and showed some age which led to a poor regular season, and ran into a really bad matchup without home court in the Supersonics (Who always owned the rockets. It seemed like Karl was in Rudy’s head.) Still, asking why the rockets didn’t make it back to the finals is like asking why Jordan wasn’t there to meet Hakeem in the 1986 finals…it has nothing to do with 1994 or 1995, or the Rockets’ 84% regular season head-to-head win percentage against the bulls during the first 3-peat.

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    The more entertaining hypothetical is this: what if the rockets front office had pulled the trigger on the proposed trade of Ralph Sampson to Portland for their number 2 pick (which was discussed) and drafted Jordan and Hakeem 1-2. Muhahaha. The best gaurd and perhaps the best big of all time on the same team? No one in the Association would have stood a chance.

  • http://www.scoutingthesports.com Nick

    Also, for the record, I don’t think the Rockets beat the bulls even if they did get by the Jazz that year–Dream wasn’t the same indomitable presence he had been, and Barkley and Drexler were too old and too flawed to give him the help he needed. Oh well.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Nick: You can’t say that the Rockets were “old” when Jordan, Drexler, Barkley, and Olajuwon were all the same age. In fact, the youngest player on both teams (in terms of key guys/superstars) was Scottie Pippen by 3 years. The average age of the Bulls in ’95-96 was 31-years-old, while the Rockets average age was 30-years-old. In ’96-97, both the Bulls and the Rockets had an average age of 31-years-old.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Nick: Also, it was certainly fun to debate this thing with you — a college debate coach — considering — as Jukai noted and of my own self-admission — I’m absolutely horrible at debating in the comments section.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Malone set a pick on Stockton’s man, and Barkely didn’t switch on a three pointer even though that was the only shot that could hurt the team. He was stuck around the key instead of rushing stockton and forcing malone to shoot that jumper on a roll.
    It wasn’t technically a pick and roll, but the problem was a pick and Chuck not showing. As a huge Rockets fan at the time, I remember that play quite well.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Allenp: I actually had to go back and look at the video to make sure I wasn’t “misremembering” anything. Truth be told, it was bad defense by Clyde Drexler. All Stockton did was pop out. Why was Clyde trying to fight over the top of a screen against Karl Malone (of all people)? had he gone underneath he would’ve been able to recover on Stockton because it was his man. Barkley followed his defensive assignment which was Malone and when he saw Stockton open he recovered, but it was too late. Barkley did what you teach defenders to do. Drexler, who was a terrible defender in his own right, blew it. It can be argued either way, but that one was clearly on Glide. He played it totally wrong and really left Chuck out there. It was still great shot though.

  • Earl

    So according to the writers thinking, 3 7 footers and 24 fouls would have worn down Olajuwon? Were the bulls the only team with 4 big men who each carried 6 fouls? Thats stupid reasoning, he beat the best centers in the game easily and there were MANY teams (like the Jazz) who had several big mean to use 20 fouls on him.

  • add

    man why people hatin on jordan?

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