Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  90 responses

Kobe Bryant’s Knee: ‘About 60%’

Bryant tells ESPN that his knee is slowly rounding into form, and feeling better than it did during the NBA Finals this past June: “The Lakers traveled halfway across the world to officially open their three-peat bid with a haphazard 111-92 loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves in Los Angeles’ first exhibition game of the season, and suddenly it seems Kobe Bryant’s surgically repaired right knee might be a world away from being fully healed. ‘I’m probably about 60 percent,’ Bryant said … After the Lakers beat the Celtics to capture the championship in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, Bryant claimed that removing the excess fluid in the knee improved his health for the rest of the postseason. ‘I drained my knee, and all of a sudden reeling off 30-point games like they’re 10-point games and everybody said how young I looked,’ Bryant said. ‘I was hurt.’ After Monday’s loss, Bryant revealed just how hurt he was, even after having the knee drained. ‘During the NBA Finals, it was extremely, extremely, extremely painful,’ Bryant said. ‘Now, not so much.’”

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  • JTaylor21

    Of course, the season hasn’t even started and the excuses are already beginning for Kobe. Dude had the entire off-season to take care of his knee and finger but decided to do nada so he would have excuse after excuse when he plays badly. It would be like this for his fanatics and the media; kobe’s a warrior blah blah, he plays hurt then when he struggles; kobe’s hurt that’s why he’s playing badly. Quit with the acting job Kobe, this is the NBA not Oscar night.

  • namik

    JTaylor21: Yes because there is no such thing as rehabilitation time.No where is Kobe saying he is going to be at 60% for the rest of the season, just where his progress is at right now. And if you find a cure for the arthritis in his finger, do let the medical world know. I’m sure they’d appreciate the insight. Now stfu and learn to read.

  • vtrobot

    people give PP sh*t because the team docs took gave him a ride in a wheelchair for 30 seconds. i think i’ve heard about kobe and ‘bron injuries for the last 4 years straight. jesus. i thought you wanted to be like mike. toughen up.

  • JoeMaMa

    I’m going to start a Haters Support Group on slamonline.com. It’ll allow people to talk about personal failures, self-hatred, problems with family and friends, and how it manifests itself in hating basketball superstars. Sign up now! Take back your happiness!!!

  • JR

    You guys are ridiculous. Kobe rarely complains about his injuries. He’s not 100%, he only played 6 minutes against the Wolves, obviously the media is going to ask him about this, he just answered their questions.

  • http://www.slamonline.com peter

    JT, who cares if he’s acting…he’s back to back champion kid. The act’s working.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: You keep accusing Kobe of making excuses and it’s getting to the point that it’s becoming ridiculous. Kobe has never used injury as an excuse for playing poorly and you can’t find one instance of it anywhere in his career. And yes, in case you didn’t know, being hurt can and will affect athletic performance. How good would you be post-surgery on your knee? And for the record, Kobe got surgery early and healing does take time. You’ve obviously never had any sort of sports injury that required a surgical procedure. Recovery is a very tedious and difficult process, especially for a guy in his 30′s with a ton of miles on his body. So cut the man some slack, OK. If you don’t like him, fine, but these rants against him like he’s faking or something is just too much. And BTW, I’ve asked you this before but you never answered, what really did happen with LeBron’s elbow? He used that as an excuse for playing poorly against Boston. And that’s not my opinion, that’s a fact. So please explain…if you can.

  • JTaylor21

    BCrawford, you just said that Kobe never made excuses but said that Bron used his elbow as an excuse for the Bos series, when did he ever say that? I never remember him using it as an excuse, all he said was that it was bothering him a little but never said it was the main reason for his average play. Also on the kobe part, I need to rephrase that because what I meant was that his fanatics and the media are the ones who make excuses for his play not him. You know I’m right too because the first game he plays bad in or has a bad stretch of games, the media and fans will use his knee and finger as excuses.

  • http://slamonline.com Yknot

    Ease up folks everybody can’t be A.C. Green!

  • http://ohlaglambam.blogspot.com Zabba

    i’ve had two surgeries on the same knee and one on my wrist in a span of one year…it takes its toll on you. it’s been 3 months since the last surgery and i’m back in shape, kicking ass at about 80%. i know wat kobe’s going through and it’s ugly, and i’m not talking about the physical pain, but all the retards out there who’re like “he’s obviously aged, he’s a step slower now, etc.” that talk ticks you, especially since i’m just 28.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Hey Bryan,
    I have been reading the comments the last two months and JTaylor neverhas anything at all to say other that ignorant, and arrogant comments. Is there some way a petition can be started for him to never return again?

    Anyways, I was hoping Kobe wouldn’t play yesterday. Hopefully he takes it easy for the rest of the pre season ad doesn’t play.

    For anyone who hasn’t had an injury. I play roughly 95 percent less than Kobe does. And I have had need surgery for a torn ACL, ligamnet surgery in my wrist, torn all the ligaments in my thumb, and avulsion fracture of my first metatarsal (the injury Kobe has in his finger). All of the still bug me, or hurt like a b1tch. Ya’ll should take a breath and realize he is injured, he had surgery and tried to give the fans a showing with a knee that is only 60 percent … he didn’t have to but he loves the game, and he loves his fans!!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: SO it’s OK for Bron to say that his elbow was bothering him even though it was never discovered what was actually wrong with it (and he did say that it affected his play, look it up) but if Kobe says his knee is 60% he’s making excuses? Where they do that? And again, if Kobe plays poorly and people cite his knee as a reason why, is that just not in the realm of possibility? if a guy is hurt, he’s hurt. That should be respected. If a guy has issues post-surgery, that should be respected too. That’s all I’m saying.

  • JTaylor21

    Just because I refuse to ride on the kobe bryant’s the greatest express, all his fanatics are getting butt-hurt and want me banned. FUNNY, what about all those clowns that hate on Bron with unbridled passion? I’m not the only one on this site that’s tired of all the Kobe’s better than everyone crap but I’m the ONLY one that chooses to speak about it. What does Kobe do out there on the court that makes him head and shoulders above every other GREAT player, NOTHING but people on here have the nerve to talk about dude like he’s some messiah and even go as far as claiming he’s as good as MJ, CHILD FREAKING PLEASE. Not everybody likes a ball-hogger whose being fortunate enough to play on the best franchise in league history.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    So you’re saying we shouldn’t be fans? Or think that our favourite player is head and shoulders above everyone? And you and philos’ are basically saying that Kobe has never won a ring that means anything because he has had teammates who are good at basketball? And what you are really saying is that we shouldn’t compare Kobe to other good basketball players because he isn’t that good? And you are also saying that we should all stay on SLAM all day so our first comment can be really ignorant and tear down anything the article says if it isn’t about Lebron or another favourite player? And maybe you are also saying that injuries are an excuse that Kobe is usng by saying “My name is Kobe Bryant and the reason I am saying I have a knee injury and had surgery with healing time is because if I don’t win can have it as an excuse?”. Okay, excellent, we get it, every post is the same man. It’s all you do, and than every once in a while you go on and say “Monta is really good”, or “I really like Gerald Wallace’s hustle”. But than right back, just chill, for the next month. Until the season starts, give some of the commentators and writers (Bryan) a break and stop hating and be a basketball fan for ONCE, other than someone trying to troll and hate.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I don’t like Kobe. And LeBron’s my main man. But I never did, and hopefully never will, say anything on the level of stupidity of what JTaylor said. I also remember him saying that he doesn’t hate Kobe just his fanatics. I guess everyone remember him sayin that. Now he’s sayin this. Now tell me that’s not hate. Then he goes backlash on everything against Bron. I don’t think Kobe is making excuses. Im not saying he did not for his entire career, i just mean this particular thing. Just like what I will think if any other player is in that situation.

  • JTaylor21

    @BCrawford, all I’m saying is that dude had months of free-time to take care of his finger and knee but has done neither. So why is he complaining about it being 60 percent if he took no steps in the off-season to take care of it. It also irks me how he says that it was very, very painful in the finals, COME ON SON we didn’t hear ish about it during the finals but he’s now talking about it like he was out there playing on one leg vs the Celts. It would just be another fake folk-tale in the kobe archives about how he took down the great celtics with a bad knee.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    JTaylor – Man, so, from your last statement, he should have come out in the finals and said how hurt he was? Should he have also told the Boston Celtics which way they should drive and have a better success rate? lol … I am hoping your next comment has a TINY bit of basketball I.Q. Just show us somehting, so everyone can see you are a fan. Say something nice… may be good for your karma if you act as if Kobe being injured wasn’t a “yo momma” joke towards your own Mother.

  • JTaylor21

    James, I’ve been a fan of basketball from day one, will always be and I was also a BIG Kobe fan but that all changed in 06-07 when Bron began his rise and kobefanatics started their hate on dude. It was them that led me to despise him so much because they say the most MORONIC statements like Bron sucks, he can’t shoot, all he does is dunk, Kobe’s the best player by FAR. None of them ever say anything that’s remotely the truth when it comes to Bron but exaggerate to the fullest extent when talking about Kobe. As much as I despise Kobe, I never said that he was a bum or anything like that, I’ve always said he’s a great player but refuse to say he’s the best in league today.

  • remo williams

    @JOEMAMMA… HAHAHAHA!!!!! if you charged $5, you’d be a millionaire

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: Dude, Kobe had knee surgery in July. It’s October now. At age 32, how long do you think it should take for him to heal and be back to 100%? A week? 2 weeks? a month? Be for real. Like I said, you’ve obviously never had any sort of sports related surgical procedure. And of course he didn’t say anything about his knee bothering him in the Finals, why would he or should he? He can’t win anyway. People would’ve said he was just using it as an excuse. So he just went out and played, which is what gamers do. If you’re healthy enough to be out there then you need to perform. If not, sit down. But you don’t make excuses. Which brings me back to the mysterious injured elbow…

  • JTaylor21

    Of course throw my mother into this, like BCrawford said before you can talk all the sh*t you want about me but when you bring family into this, you’re heading down a path you will regret. Go ahead feel brave and continue talking out the side of your neck.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    I said nothing about your family or towards your family Taylor. I was simply saying not to take a Kobe article as a personal attack attack you and your family. It will be fine, take a breather and relax. Things will be okay. Chai latte’s work for some of my friends.

  • Nick the Quick

    If you read enough of JTaylor’s comments, it’s pretty obvious how much he hates the man, for reasons that make no basketball sense. According to him Kobe is as meaningful to all his championship teams as Darko was to the 2004 Pistons. He refuses to admit that Kobe’s basketball skills and accomplishments surpass any other player of this generation and bring him closer than any other player to MJ. To Jtaylor, Kobe is just very good at copying MJ and not creating how own basketball style. In his arguments, he refers to everyone as CHILD PLEASE, suggesting he is much older and wiser than anyone else yet he calls Jukai, Bcrawford and other writers old men in senior homes suggesting, he is the young, up and coming Einstein of the world. He thinks the world of AI yet thinks Ginobili should not even be retired by San Antonio because he rarely even starts and has done nothing that AI has. It’s hard to argue with such a man. How do you reason with the unreasonable?

  • JTaylor21

    @BCrawford, if he didn’t say it then why is he saying it now when no one asked him about games that took place 3 months ago? RIDDLE ME THAT. The only reason he brought up the Bos series was to put it out there (without actually being direct) that the reason why he played so bad throughout the finals was due to the knee. Anybody that reads this article especially his fans will now use the knee as an excuse for his poor Finals, plain and simple.

  • KB8toSG8


    JT, why don’t you answer what happened to LeBron’s elbow? Maybe that’s a sensitive topic for you….

    And in 2006-07, James was nowhere near being a COMPLETE player. He still isn’t right now ( Hello, post game for a freaking Goliath anyone? )

    And yeah, Kobe fans do have the right to defend him after all the ish he and his fans faced from 04-06. You think Kobe didn’t do anything for his knee? Try reading, dumbass, he had a surgery. It takes some time to heal. Why don’t you say Wade sucks as well since he’s gotten injured many times as well. And sticking to the topic, any Kobe fan could see the knee was still bothering him a little even after draining the knee. His movements, though MUCH MUCH better, were still a little stiff. Slow-mo can teach you that much. And YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE NO B-BALL IQ. Kobe is a warrior. MJ was a better athlete and physical specimen. Hell, even PJ said that. You think he’s an idiot? Of course he’s gonna be more durable. Also add to that the fact that Kobe has already logged 14 seasons, way more than MJ and has gone deep into the post-season many a time. He ain’t someone like….you know….LeBron. He’s A WINNER. And judging by your posts, you seem to detest winners.

  • Conoro

    JTaylor… hahahaha. Who do you think you are? A fan/quasi-martyr on a personal vendetta against the evils of Kobe fans? Back to your bridge, troll. You’re ridiculous.

  • KB8toSG8

    What about LeBron’s elbow? You don’t seem to have a problem with a guy saying he was injured even though NO evidence was found proving it. Yet you hate the guy that was suffering from a bum finger and a knee which was widely documented????

    And regarding Kobe’s finger, NOTHING can be done to rectify it. There’s no more ligament left in it and it also has arthritis.

  • Conoro

    How about you break two of your own fingers and destroy some knee cartiladge so you can surgically repair it three times, all the while running on hardwood for countless hours nearly every day. Get real, man.

  • EJ

    JTaylor is bruceblitz on slamonline.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    JTaylor, based on your 10:36 post.. Why tarnish your tiny reputation as a fan just to hate on someone when the ones you hate are HIS FANS? You mean your way of correcting moronic Lebron myths to eyes of others is to hate on someone they like? Doesn’t make sense. If you say you hate the fanatics, then hate them, not the guy. Because based on your 1st post, you’re just getting revenge and not commenting basketball arguments.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn, kobe fans are some demanding people. I’ve already stated that dude’s a GREAT player but I’m labeled a hater if I don’t say he’s the GREATEST. Come on son, so being great is not enough for you guys, you want people to claim that he’s untouchable. Also anybody that puts him and MJ in the same sentence must have been beaten by a real black mamba. So now Bron’s not a complete player but he doesn’t post up SHAMWOW what about Magic; so he wasn’t a complete player because he didn’t play defense, or Wilt wasn’t one because he couldn’t make free throws. Great logic guys, talk about there being no HOPE for humanity.

  • James

    Kobe didn’t play terrible in this year’s finals, he was 10-22 for 30 points in game 1, 10-22 and 6-11 3PTA/M for 33 points in game 4, 13-27 for 38 points in game 5 and 9-19 for 26 points in game 6. And I’m a fan of Kobe and Bron and alot more NBA players, why is that so hard for alot of people. Just enjoy the game (PS. Can’t wait for the season to start!).

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: Kobe played poorly in the Finals? Word? He averaged 28.6 ppg, 3.9 apg, 8rpg, 2.2spg, and he shot 88% from the FT line in the Finals. That’s poor? OK, he didn’t shoot the ball well from the field (40%) so you’re right, he stunk it up.

  • JTaylor21

    BCrawford, shooting 40% means that you played bad, it’s that simple. I guess that since AI came into the league, people now think that shooting that low of a percentage means that you had a great game. Let me put it like this; does a 8-20 box score look good, NO it doesn’t to me but maybe it’s like going 13-20 to you. Even bron who had that horrendous Gm5 still shot a better percentage than Kobe who the Celts couldn’t gang up on because had better teammates around him.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And for the record, I would’ve respected LeBron’s elbow thing if 1. It were his elbow on his shooting arm instead of his non-shooting one 2. If there really was something wrong with it. But I’m not going to hold that against him and I’ll only bring it up when people (not just JTaylor21) who happen to be LeBron James fans act like Kobe’s “legit” injuries are somehow false. 2K11 time… I’M OUT!!

  • KB8toSG8

    LeBron doesn’t have a post game, good FT, has a shaky jumper, no post game, not great on ball defense ( trust me, Battier DESERVES it more.)

    Now tell me Magic and Wilt’s shortcomings?

    And BTW, they never claimed an elbow hindered their performance.

  • KB8toSG8


    You conveniently seem to have forgotten that he had more turnovers than a Kobe who had a BUM finger on his ball handling hand…….

    Also, Kobe had ONE bad game after game 3/4 in the playoffs against OKC……ONE. He managed to play at a high level after recreating his shot MID-SEASON. He entirely changed his shooting technique! And you still criticize one game??? MJ vs Seattle. MJ SUCKED. Right? He doesn’t deserve to be one of the greatest right? Tch.

    He got 15 rebounds and racked up a few assists. Why forget game 5? When he lit it up in the 3rd quarter only to have his team-mates not support him that much…..

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: No, 40% isn’t good, but because he shot 40%, he sucked and nothing else he did matters? Yeah, LeBron shot better against them (45%) overall in the series, but in the last 3 games, he shot 34% (7-18, 3-14, 8-21). But that couldn’t have been Boston’s defense shutting him down though, must’ve been that elbow.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @B.C. Its the elbow on his shooting hand. He shot left-handed on a freethrow in the Bulls series remember?


    My index finger is at 50% right now. I don’t know how I manage to type so well. smh

  • KB8toSG8

    You also seem to forget KB’s defense throughout the playoffs as well. Had more impact than LeBron’s weakside blocks/defense in the playoffs.

  • KB8toSG8


    I can type very well without using my index fingers right now…..

    And Kobe’s index finger is not even 50%. He’s gonna need to wear a splint probably for the rest of his life…..

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    People.. JTaylor’s 10:36 post should say it all. How shallow.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @J: That’s right, my bad. But still, he didn’t have a problem lighting Chicago up with that “injured” elbow (24pts, 40pts, 39pts, 37pts, 19pts) or hitting a half-court 3-pointer and bragging that he can do that “easily”. But like I said, I’m not going to hold that against him. S**t happens.

  • JTaylor21

    @BCrawford, please don’t tell me that 2K11 sucks because you’re back already. Anyways given the fact that Bron still shot a better % even though he had those horrendous last 3 games should tell you just how bad Kobe shot the ball. Kobe in my opinion has being extremely OVERRATED as a shooter and I cringe every time people claim that he’s a better shooter than MJ. Can we both agree that Bron clearly had the better series vs Bos and that the MAIN reason KB won was because of his supremely talented supporting cast?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ B.C. I don’t think Bron is making the elbow as an excuse. I remember him interviewed after the game and being asked about the elbow. He said that its bothering him but he can’t afford to make it as an excuse because he knows everyone isn’t a 100% at that time (playoffs-fatigue). And just like Kobe, despite having some bad shooting games, Bron made it up on boards, assist and on D.


    @KB8toSG8: Didn’t Kobe wreck his pinky finger too? I swear I remember Jason Kidd bending Kobe’s pinky finger all the way back in @New Jersey right after the Gasol trade. So really, Kobe’s got only 3 good digits on his shooting hand, yet he still produces. smh

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @JT21: I haven’t fired it up yet, so this is my last post, probably for the rest of the day… Kobe shot poorly against the C’s, mainly because he doesn’t have the physical advantages that LeBron has at his disposal. That makes a huge difference. And no, Kobe isn’t a better shooter than MJ and I’ll argue anyone on that. As for teammates, you’re right, Kobe’s were better. But don’t act like Kobe’s supporting cast carried him all the way through to the ‘ship while he contributed nothing in the series. With the exception of Game 7, Kobe carried his teammates the whole series and when he needed them to help close Boston out, they showed up. Whereas LeBron’s teammates needed HIM in the last 3 games against the C’s and then HE didn’t show up. Therein lies the difference.

  • KB8toSG8

    KB lead him team to the championship. Kobe has got more range than MJ lol! That’s undeniable. More consistent? Yes MJ is. His career FG ( though misleading ) is undeniable.

    I’d LOVE to see LBJ’s shot chart vs Celtics. I want to see how many points he got driving in the paint. Really do. And how many he bricked as well.

  • KB8toSG8


    KB has more range. MJ does his work more from the post. Fadeaways, pull-ups etc. MJ is more consistent. KB showed he could do the same thing when Gasol was out for the first 20 odd games in the season when he was shooting above 50% while manning the post. That was a spectacle to behold. And I know KB can also get 50% every night if he goes to the post as consistently as MJ did. MJ didn’t have another post player on his team. He WAS the post player on his team. So, he could slide into the post without affecting the modified triangle set up in CHI. LA’s triangle is different. KB going to the post would mean the spacing would vanish in an instant. That would kill the flow of the game for LA. Hence, he needs to operate more from the perimeter even if his stats take a hit. Its more of a “the best gain is to lose something” or something like that. Check back on the stats of the first 20 games. His stats are eerily similar to those of MJ’s.

  • KB8toSG8

    What I mean by LA’s triangle is that its different from CHI’s triangle. LA has got 2 big talented post players and I personally think that they should get a min of 12-16 touches each.

    And by no means do I want to say that KB is a better shooter than MJ. I’d say both are almost at the same level with MJ edging out on KB.KB is certainly up there. I already stated the reasons above.

  • karma

    The fact that you think Kobe is making excuses…IN THE GOD DAMN PRE SEASON means that you, JTaylor, is someone who should never be taken seriously. Let’s take a moment to laugh at this clown for being 10 years old in his analysis.

  • karma

    **are someone

  • VisionofGreatness

    He was asked a question about his knee and he answered it truthfully….how is that complaining? Kobe has people who say that he’s the best, LeBron has his people who say that he’s the best. At this point, it’s just old. He was advised by doctors. He knows his body. He doesn’t need to play 30 minutes in preseason games. When the regular season rolls around, he’ll be fine.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Wow, so we have the “who is better, Mike/Lebron/Kobe” ALREADY in a post? We’ve ALREADY brought up Mike’s elbow and have ALREADY dissected every single area of basketball and see HOW MUCH Mike is ahead or how CLOSE Kobe is to being better than Mike?
    Jesus Christ.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It may not be a bad idea to wait till some of these cats turn 18 before discussions are held with them.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    COSIGN–Great Points!
    KB8toSG8 Posted: Oct.5 at 12:04 pm
    KB8toSG8 Posted: Oct.5 at 12:08 pm
    Took the words, right out of my mouth!

  • The Cigar Guy

    Ya’ll act like Gasol is only effective in the paint with his back to the basket, when anyone worth their salt knows Gasol SPREADS the floor with a great midrange jumper, which opens up the paint for Kobe, but let’s be real, Kobe would rather shoot a bomb, than take it in the painted area, hence his shooting percentage isn’t as good as it could be. *blows smoke rings*

  • Robb

    @JTaylor21 you really love to be called an idiot don’t you?

  • Stillballin

    How Kobe can say he can beat lebron one-on-one on a sleep if he get a bad knee..go heat!!!

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Nonsense on stilts

  • The Philosopher

    To The Masses:
    Only The King can fake an injury in a Playoff game AND get away with it.
    We all know that there was not anything wrong with his arm, but it does not matter, for he is that good.
    Great to see that you are doing fine.
    I do not hate on Kobe Bryant. He is a player for the ages.
    But, The King… is better.
    Oh, James:

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    lol. Why do you guys respond to JTaylor? He’s as obnoxious as PANAGOPOULOUS, but knows less ball than him. There’s no value in the debate. Let him be. Kobe obviously is making excuses, while Bron took the time to heal up his elbow. No excuses from the KING! Alright, let’s move on.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    JTaylor, you recently posted that Kobe was a GREAT player on that “Intensity” Youtube clip… and you usually mention him when it comes to the top 5 players in the league… So what’s your real stance? You double talk alot. Lebron is a great player… He’s just a retard as far as decision making of the court.

  • Dar

    Dude, all this hate is depressing..

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t understand why people are up in arms about anything. Bryant didn’t make an excuse, he was asked how his knee is doing. It seems like people (you know who you are) just want stuff to complain about. Kobe legitmately had a hurt knee, he didn’t play “great” against boston. he arguably wasn’t the best player on his team (*in wins) but he got the job done. You don’t succeed and make an excuse about it, you fail and make excuses. This is called an explanation – like the reason he sat out the end of training camp, and will likely miss games in the early part of the season.

  • VisionofGreatness

    @The Philosopher
    What kind of argument is that? Only LeBron can fake an injury because he’s that good? What sense does that make? There is nothing philosophical about you at all. If saying Long live the King is your idea of philosophy, that’s pretty sad.

  • VisionofGreatness

    I think The Philosopher is Maverick Carter.



  • http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5493184 Jackie Moon

    Kobe Bryant Max points in one game: 81. Lebron: 56. Michael Jordan: 69.

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    Injured, hurt, sick or whatever – doesn’t really matter. Bottmom line is about production and nothing else should be used as an excuse. If he has a great game it’s ‘amazing that he worked through the pain’ if he has a horrible game it’s ‘evident that injury is really effecting him’. A lot of great players have played through injuries, sickness and/or pain etc. But only that player knows how much it really hurt and I hate making excuses for them. I won’t ever accuse a player of making up an injury or faking sick etc, I just expect them to perform.

  • http://slamonline.com Kieran

    Thanks Jackie Moon for that completely irrelevant statistic.

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5493184 Jackie Moon

    @ Kieran – The most relevant statistic is max points scored in a regular season game.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    no the most relevant statistic is wins. and championships won. if most points scored were relevant wouldn’t david robinson be a much higher rated player historically then he is….considering he has the 3rd highest point total in a game in history?

  • Michael

    wow Jtaylor, your such a kobe hater. Your arguments are so unreasonable but you cannot even see it. Go away hater the real ans are talking.

  • Michael


  • JTaylor21

    ^You meant Stans right?

  • kobe32

    JTaylor21 hopefully your momma has more sense than you… yeah i said it, what of it

  • hammer

    Don’t know where or what jackie moon was going/doing w/that stat

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Shout out @ JTaylor21

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Shout out @ my main man The Philosopher!

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    And Bean sucks.

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Shout out @ Bean 4 letting London’s fans down.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negative kreep

    I’ll ask again. How often does a Kobe/Lebron thread pop off with some dude talking sh!t about said player, make rediculouse claims about that player, only to claim that They only do it because of the rediculouse claims made by fanatics! ???…

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negative kreep

    Everyones got The right to thier own opinion. Its cool, what makes Slam great. But cats that front and Make up reasons for typing sh!t when they know its BS? Thats something entirely different.

  • BostonBaller
  • JTaylor21

    Good looking The Fresh Prince of Nsam, keep up the great work and never let up on Bron haters.

  • Dr. Spaceman

    Why does this have to be Kobe vs Lebron? Is it because of Kobe’s 1 on 1 comments you feel you have some leverage against Lebron fans and you want to capitalize on it? wtf? pathetic.

    I’m not a Kobe fan, but I respect the man for risking his body to further injury by playing injured. It’s very clear he loves the game.

    Why don’t we all just get on Kenyon Martin and his “no money? no rush to come back” bullsh!t?

  • KB8toSG8

    Regarding my older posts. I don’t mean to start any debate. If you thought it was leading to it, I’m sorry.

    @Cigar Guy,

    Yes. Gasol can spread the floor with his shooting as well. But we all know he prefers to be where he is most effective – with his back to the basket in the paint posting up. His length and wingspan along with his skills are deadly from there. From mid-range, not so much. And KB surely does like a bomber lol. That’s widely known. Or else it won’t be so dramatic right? :P Besides, PJ already stated this: MJ worked hard to get open shots to knock down. KB works hard to knock down those ridiculous shots. And that is what makes both different yet special.


    What Kobe said is true. Bron’s more of a facilitator type whose skills are maximised when he plays with others. KB’s game on the other hand is LETHAL 1-on-1.

  • The Philosopher

    What’s going on Prince?