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Thursday, October 7th, 2010 at 9:30 am  |  34 responses

Marcin Gortat Wants More Shots. The Magic? Not So Much

Poor Marcin. No one in Orlando cares much for what he wants. They just need him to keep banging down low. From the Sentinel: “When Gortat does try to showcase his offensive game with the Magic, he gets talked to by the coaching staff. And that adjustment has not been easy for the 26-year-old big man. ‘There are days when I’m about to explode and just say a couple of things or go to the coach and tell him what I want to do,’ Gortat said. ‘I feel like I’m one of the guys who has to sacrifice a lot to adjust to this team. I can tell you that it’s not easy.’ The Orlando Magic, meanwhile, are not overly concerned about Gortat’s desire to play more offense. During the team’s 3 1/2- hour meeting last Monday, his teammates told him they wanted him to focus on his role of defending, rebounding and running the floor. They weren’t interested in any offensive flash from Dwight Howard’s backup. ‘A lot of players feel that they can do more than what everybody’s asking them to do,’ Dwight Howard said. ‘But you’ve gotta know your role. Teams that win championships, everybody knows their role.’ After the first week of training camp, coach Stan Van Gundy was concerned about Gortat’s focus on his role … ‘I think that he’s a guy who has a lot of trouble accepting his role,’ Van Gundy said. ‘He really wants to be more of an offensive player. I’m not discouraging that. … But he needs to focus on defending and rebounding and running the floor. He needs to get back to that. Those are the things he does well, and he has not done a good job of that.’”

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  • Nick

    he’s good, he deserves much more regard.

  • g.s.r

    it’s true that in teams that wish to win a championship, everyone should have a role. But I don’t think that Gortat cannot help Magic in the offensive end. Last 2 years, I’ve found myself plenty of times thinking that Magic play better offensively with Gortat. Too bad for Gortat, that for a variety of reasons Dwight must get all the offensive load of the center position of Magic.

  • D12FSU

    Gortat just spent the summer playing for Polands national team where he was the main focus. I dont blame him for wanting a bigger role, but its just tough that hes playing behind the best center in the game. I really hope that Orlando one day trades Gortat because I would love to see him start for another team. In return though, I would expect the Magic to recieve a solid-semi all star player with a ok center. We dont need a great back up center, just a theo ratliff like player to play 15 minutes

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    SVG mismanages his bench more than any other coach in the league. You would think that after the Magic matched Dallas’ offer sheet for Gortat they would play him much more than they do. They are paying out the a** to have him ride the bench for all but 10 minutes a game. Gortat should see more playing time. He looked better than Howard against the Celtics during the playoffs. Hell, it is safe to say that Gortat’s offense is much more refined than Howard’s is. Gortat is not alone either. Brandon Bass and Redick (who is getting more time but not enough) seem to be perennial bench warmers despite their talents. If the Magic ever hope to do anything but come up short SVG needs to expand his rotation. Unfortunately, now that he will have to wear a collared shirt, the blood probably won’t reach his head and allow him to think that way.

  • Groves

    let him go to work on the possesions when he usually would recieve it in scoring position. and then use him as dwight howard 2 when dwight is on the bench for those 10 minutes per game

  • T-Money

    I understand that he’s the best back-up center in the league but when Dwight is the starter, that doesn’t mean much – he plays more than 10 minutes only when Dwight is in foul trouble. I can see it from both sides really. He had signed Dallas’ offer sheet and didn’t want Orlando to match. Perhaps he should have taken the one-year qualifying offer, he would have been a FA this summer…

  • PapaBearATL

    I like the match up problems created when Gortat and Howard are on the floor together. He is hungry, that’s a good sign. He still needs to know his role though. It’s not an individual sport. Offensively he does seem to have it more together, in spurts though. I don’t know how consistent he can be with more time.

  • D12FSU

    I dont understand all this talk about rotation and minutes…it seems like no one would be satisfied unless Bass and Gortat get starter minutes….well they are bench players for orlando because orlando has a really good talented team. SVG is a paid NBA coach, im sure he knows a lot more than we do and whats best for his team……what im trying to say is would you rather have Rashard and Dwight play 28 minutes a game, or 38….

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    I agree T-Money. I don’t see anything changing for him in Orlando.

  • Groves

    use howard and bass as starting pf’s and then use gortat as the main backup behind each of them, get him 20 minutes that way and give the few remaining power forward minutes to anderson. Lewis is our new SF

  • T-Money

    D12: Stan could also stop being so rigid and have Gortant play some back-up 4 as well. Surprisingly, he actually has the foot speed and agility to cover most 4s. Only thing is, that would prevent SCG from running his 4 out – 1 in offense and he’s not creative like that. Stan’s a good X and O guy but he lacks imagination, can’t adjust on the fly, has trouble with substitutions and is not respected by his players (I’ve heard at least 4 or 5 Orlando players admit that’s he has a tendency to panic).

  • T-Money

    You wanna know how many minutes Dooling, Reddick, Pietrus, Anderson/Bass and Gortat played in a game? Just look at the minutes of Nelson, Vince, Q-Rich, Shard and Dwight. He ALWAYS subs the starter for his back-up(s). Ridiculous.

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    Does anyone else think that Gortat would be a great fit in Atlanta? They really need a true C so that Horford can play his natural 4 or they are never going to get past the second round. Gortat has starter talent and ability, it sucks that a young talented guy is in a situation where he has zero chance of more PT even though he’s a better offensive player than Howard. He should be included in a trade deal with Vince Carter’s expiring contract to bring in someone to help Orlando improve.

  • http://slamonline.com niQ

    “he has not done a good job of that.”
    Maybe if you actually PLAYED him on the court he would do it. I think the Magic really f’d up Gortat’s career. Damn shame.

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  • VisionofGreatness

    They should have let him go to the Mavs a few seasons ago if they weren’t going to let him play the way he wants to play. Too late now. They have too many players who can shoot for him to be able to get more shots. Even on the second team, Pietrus and Redick will be taking most of the shots.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    He’s from Poland, but theres nothing funny about that….. hehe.. In all seriousness, I think hes one of the better centers in the league, back-up or not.. Dont know if I would draw-up a lot of plays for him, he seems to do just fine getting rebounds and put-backs..

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    dumb orlando management. overpaying everyone and trying to fit a square peg into a circle.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Niq- Agreed.. He would have a much bigger impact on a team that started him, his #s would sky rocket, However there is the age old question for young players- Play limited minutes for a contender, or Play big minutes and possibly all star games for a crappy team..

  • unrel

    gortat can play… it’s a shame they’re not letting him.. it’s not just about the player knowing his role but the GM/coach finding those roles.. if that’s what they’re looking for.. they should have let him walk and signed someone else.. traded him for haywood.. orlando seems to be signing people.. just so other teams can’t..

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    When did gortat turn into kareem? Hes very limited on offense and def not better than dwight. I question how anyone could say such things. When has he ever shown his offensive prowess?

  • D12FSU

    If Gortat and Howard play an extended amount of time together, you risk both of them getting into foul trouble, then you lose both for the game

  • T-Money

    D12: Somehow, Phil Jackson doesn’t share the same converns with playing his two 7-footers together.

  • bdub

    Agreed T-Money. Give them Heavy 2nd half minutes together.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    How do you break a Pollock’s index finger?? Punch him in the nose..

  • Big-C

    I think Marcin should be playing at PF. They spend too much time at the three, and it works but if you had Jameer at point, Vince at shot gaurd, Rashard at SF and Dwight at center. Still have heaps of time for threes, more interior offense and bloody deadly interior defense. Bit weak defensively on perimeter tho…

  • orl.chris

    Gortat should get more minutes, but he shouldn’t start. We have a really great, talented, deep team in Orlando. What we need to do is have a full second unit like PHX towards the end of last year that always plays together so they can get used to each other and jell down the stretch.

    Starters: (5)Dwight (4)Bass (3)Lewis (2)Redick (1)Nelson

    2nd unit: (5)Gortat (4)Anderson (3)Richardson (2)Pietrus (1)Duhon

    Theres not a squad of backups on any other NBA team that could compete with that lineup.

    Vince is useless to us, we should move him for a draft pick or something while we still can. Maybe move him to a crappy team for their first round pick so we can get some good young talent in return.

  • ab40

    if he wants the ball he should crash the boards. no one is gonna give it to him. and orl.chris VC destroys jj redick even when he is at no more than 45 % as he was last year. And lewis can’t guard threes hell he can’t guard anybody but he makes more money than everybody… back to gortat. if he wants the ball he should get it. hell dwight even get’s no touches sometimes let alone his backup. if he grabs 5 o r per game he’s got 5 shot attempts right there. he’s bigger more athletic and stronger than most backups so what’s stopping him?

  • tavoris

    How’s he gonna get more shots at the C, when Howard already is living off table scraps?

  • FEARtheDEER

    screw the magic and svg let go of gortat i want to see him average 10 12 and 3

  • http://www.twitter.com/Boston_Blogger Boston_Blogg3r

    He’s softer than a marshmellow.

  • Seven Duece

    I’m still wondering why they matched his contract, it must have been out of spite. Then again, SVG is a bum and Otis Smith thinks spending money is a sport.

  • orl.chris

    ab40 – i dont know if you watch a lot of magic games or not, but VC definitely does not “destroy” JJ. in fact, the team looks better with JJ on the court. Vince is a ball stopper, and he takes bad shots. How are you gonna talk about defense and defend Vince Carter in the same paragraph? No one on Orlando except for dwight is a good 1 on 1 defender, but together they play great team defense, so shard at the 3 would be just fine, besides it would make him unstoppable on the offensive end playing against all those smaller guys.

  • bob

    trade him to toronto for evans and a wing. they need a center; we get a vet who rebounds whose contract is ending and some youth.

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