Sunday, October 3rd, 2010 at 5:05 pm  |  77 responses

Superstar U

Which NCAA program is best at producing NBA stars?

by Jeff Fox / @HoopsManifesto

Imagine for a moment, if you will, that you are a high school basketball phenom (if you are REALLY a high school basketball phenom, stop surfing the net and go practice some free throws or something). Like most young players, you have aspirations of playing in the NBA one day, so obviously you want to pick a college to attend that will maximize your chances at becoming a NBA star in the near future.

What school do you choose?

With 347 NCAA Division I programs to select from, the choice are endless.

Or are they?

The truth of the matter is there are only a handful of schools that pump out NBA stars on a consistent basis. So what schools are these, you ask?  We’ve got the answers. Remember that we’re not concerned with schools that supply the NBA with a high quantity of players; rather we are more concerned with the quality of these players. And we only care about the present, so we’re only interested in current NBA players. So, with that in mind, we came up with this handy scoring system to rank players to determine which college is currently best at producing NBA “stars”:

Multiple MVP awards = 10
MVP  = 9
Multiple All-NBA selections = 8
All-NBA = 7
Multiple All-Star = 6
Multiple DPOY awards = 5
All-Star = 4
DPOY = 3
Multiple All-Defensive selections = 2
All-Def/ROY/6th Man winner = 1

So, if a player has won multiple MVP awards (Shaq, Nash, etc.) he’s assigned 10 points. If he’s won one MVP (including Finals MVP) he’s given nine points, and so on. Then we went through all current players in the League, assigned the appropriate point total to them, assigned them to the college they attended, and voila — we have the definitive ranking of which school is worthy of the title “Superstar U”.

Honorable mention: Santa Clara, LSU, Kansas, Kentucky

5) North Carolina – 14 points

Magic Camp BasketballCurrent NBA Stars: Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison
Future Stars: Harrison Barnes (number one overall draft prospect, 2011), John Henson (lottery pick, 2011)

You would expect mighty North Carolina to be much higher on this list, but in reality things have dried up for them as of late (at least in terms of producing NBA stars). With high draft picks such as Marvin Williams and Brandan Wright not becoming stars (yet) like had been projected for them, the Tar Heels have gone over a decade since they last produced a star player (brother-in-laws Vince Carter and Antawn Jamison entered the NBA in 1999). There is hope, however, as current Heels John Henson and Harrison Barnes are projected to be lottery picks next June.

4) Alabama – 15 points

Current NBA stars: Gerald Wallace, Mo Williams, Antonio McDyess
Future stars: JaMychal Green (late first round, 2011)

Here is the shocker of all shockers — Alabama, a “football school”, is currently the fourth-best program at producing NBA talent. Better than North Carolina. And UCLA. And Kansas. And Kentucky. Crazy, but it’s true. The Crimson Tide might have only sent 24 players to the NBA in its history, but their current batch of pros have had great careers. However, once Antonio McDyess retires their ranking is going to drop, so they’ll need Gerald Wallace to continue his rise to the upper reaches of NBA stardom and/or current Big Man on Campus, JaMychal Green, to make a big splash in the League.

2) tie –  Connecticut – 22 points

Current NBA stars: Ray Allen, Richard Hamilton, Caron Butler, Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon
Future stars: Kemba Walker (lottery pick, 2011)

No surprise here, as the UConn Huskies have long seemingly had a pipeline from their campus in Storrs to the NBA, at least recently (of their 29 players who have gone to the NBA, almost half are still currently playing). And considering how high in the draft both Emeka Okafor and Ben Gordon went, if they had played to the full potential some had seen in them as NBA pros, UConn’s ranking on the list would be even higher. The past couple of years have been rather quiet, though, with only Stanley Robinson getting drafted last year (and late in the draft, at that) and current point guard Kemba Walker considered a real NBA prospect on the current roster. Is the pipeline drying up?

2) tie – Wake Forest – 22 points

Current NBA stars: Tim Duncan, Chris Paul, Josh Howard
Future stars: Tony Woods (late first round, 2011)

There are stars, and then there’s the level of stars Wake Forest has produced recently. In Tim Duncan and Chris Paul, the Demon Deacons have supplied the NBA with two of the best players in recent history. Also, they should both become the first NBA Hall-of-Famers to call Wake Forest their former home. But Paul better stick around and dominate the NBA for decades yet, because currently Wake Forest has no future NBA stars roaming its campus.

1) Duke – 24 points

D072230019.JPGCurrent NBA stars: Grant Hill, Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, Shane Battier
Future stars: Kyrie Irving (top 10, 2011), Mason Plumlee (top 10, 2011), Kyle Singler (mid-first round, 2011), Nolan Smith (late first round, 2011)

Duke makes it three Atlantic Coast Conference schools (and three North Carolina schools) to crack the top five. It’s no great shock that the reigning NCAA champ tops the list, as the Blue Devils were sending players to the big leagues even before Coach K stepped on campus. And the cupboard is nowhere near being bare, as the current roster has at least four guys who will someday step onto a NBA court. What’s more, top high school player Austin Rivers (and maybe Quincy Miller) has committed to Duke, which means the Blue Devils look to be an impact program — both in the NCAA and the NBA — for years to come.

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Read more of Jeff Fox at The Hoops Manifesto and The MMA Manifesto.

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  • NC_basketball_rules

    Interesting article to stir up controversy for a Monday morning. Everybody has an opinion. LoL.

    Hating Duke is like hating the NY Yankees. Great talent from proven athletes from the MLB that wanted to be recognized by a raise in salary while also being able to play their best in the postseason. This is what makes the Yankees so easy to hate. but I digress.

    All 5 of the NCAA universities listed are stellar programs with a great track record. Although producing NBA stars is greatly about individual drive and passion in basketball and for the developing one’s game, NBA teams also start players who make everybody on their team better.

    I love Wake Forest U. and I’ve been a big Tim Duncan and CP3 fan but I have to confess that Duke players in the NBA learned to play great team basketball under Coach K at Duke. Look at how well NBA superstars played the game in the Olympics and the World Basketball Tournament. Gold medals and high efficiency basketball that brought respect and pride back to the USA basketball program.

    Whether or not Duke players score the most points on their team or rack up stats for Fantasy teams, Dukies play tight defense and learn to adapt to NBA basketball teams getting respect from teammates for intangibles and displaying behind the scenes skills.

    Duke may not always produce great NBA talent but currently they many respected athletes playing professional basketball in the NBA and internationally. just my 2 cents… go Demon Deacons!

  • arjae828

    true…arizona should probably be on here with arenas and jet. not sure if bibby or jefferson have awards. maybe some 2nd team all nba or 2nd team all defense. they’re stars but not accomplished really.

  • http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com Jeff Fox

    Arizona missed the cut – Bibby & Jefferson don’t have any awards/honors on their resumes.

  • arjae828

    yea, i didn’t think those 2 had any accolades. can’t believe ‘zona only has 4 players (minus bayless) they were point guard central for a while. surprised Florida’s not there either. repeat champs and none of those guys have accolades??…maybe it’s not your rating system. The NBA award voting must be atrocious.

  • anony

    UCONN. HUSKIES. Kemba is the truth and can be a high level player in the L. In a few years, ANDRE DRUMMMMOND!

  • david ball

    you should go back through the beginning of the NBA (including NBA teams now defunct) and count….you would find that Duke would be very low on the list till the late 70′s..UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky would blow the Dookies out of the water…understand you are only counting todays current players, but that is somewhat misleading eh????

  • Dave

    Schools with most players in NBA

    Duke 14
    UCLA 14
    Connecticut 13
    North Carolina 13
    Arizona 10
    Florida 9
    Kansas 9
    Kentucky 9
    Georgia Tech 7
    Ohio St. 7
    Texas 7
    LSU 6
    Memphis 6
    Michigan St. 6
    Syracuse 6
    Wake Forest 6
    California 5
    Southern Cal 5
    Villanova 5

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Only honorable mention for kansas? Pierce, hinrich, collison, gooden, chalmers, rush, shady arthur, sherron, xavier, and cole. Many young guys, but certainly kansas is more relevant than unc and duke, both of which havent put out legit talent in a decade. You tried tho. Its not right when u have a team like unc that hasnt had a quality player in over a decade that places high on the list because of old accomplishments by vince and tawn, when all theyve put out recently is marvin williams.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Dave cant counted, I listed ten jayhawks, and theres a couple more I didnt mention. Why werent finals mvps counted jeff?

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Dave cant counted, I listed ten jayhawks, and theres a couple more I didnt mention. Why werent finals mvps counted jeff? huh?

  • Actually Understands

    It’s obvious that the people who take exception to this because the people you list “aren’t stars” or you “left out people/teams” really just didn’t understand what you were doing here.
    However, I do have to say I think it would be a little more meaningful if you tracked it by head coach (during the player’s last year of college ball, if the coaching changed or the player transferred) instead of by institution.

  • http://www.twitter.com/HurstySYD Hursty

    Tarzan – maybe Dave “cant counted”, but you can’t read. Finals MVP’s WERE counted. And only 1 of those guys you mentioned is eligible to recieve any of the awarded points.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jtrain73 Jono

    i’m pretty sure it’s st. vincent-st. mary

  • http://www.upandfresh.eu frednetick

    Based on current NBA stars? What’s the point? Why didn’t you choose to make a “generation star breeder”, over the last 25 years ? That would be relevant…

  • http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com Jeff Fox

    Some day I’ll do an all-time list – maybe when my kids have grown up and I have time!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Cuse is in the House, OMG.

  • Zeiramsy

    Funny thing is, everyone complained about those straight-from-high-school players but they´ve produced the last 4 of the last 7 MVPS (Dirk as a foreign schooled included). Just abolish that stupid rule because fact is sure fire things like Kobe, Lebron or KG don´t need one year of U. You think Durant got better because of that one year in Texas playing against inferior competition and with a training limit? I don´t think so either. Propably the only player who learned something in his one year wait was Jennings!

  • Elvis Freshly

    When I first saw the headline my mind went straight to UCONN .. boy do they produce some shooters.

  • Air Zaza

    Alabama shouldn’t be ahead of Georgia Tech. Bosh and gang have more All Star appearances than most others.

  • http://slamonline.com Jon Jaques

    The point system is interesting. Just weird to think of Duke as the top “star” producer. I’d say North Carolina just based on gut, not on a numerical system.

  • Flash

    How about which program has produced the most NBA Champions? Duke wont be at the top of that list?

  • john

    Seems like a pretty good system overall, I like how you eliminate any of your own biases with the point system. My major criticism however is that this list is really a list of schools that were good at producing stars 5 to 15 years ago. But to be fair, it would be near impossible to know which schools produce the top NBA talent today because the players aren’t big stars yet! You do note future potential which makes up for that a little. Well done though, I enjoyed reading it.

    @ Flash That’s irrelevant, counting NBA champions is not the aim of this list. We all know single players don’t make championship teams and besides, looking at ring numbers of current players is hardly a representative sample. Also, you can get a ring but not contribute much.

  • Jason

    HAHA…Shane Battier, Elton Brand, and Grant Hill as stars? And Kyle Singler and Nolan Smith future stars? Smith doesn’t even have a true position at the next level. You gave yourself away Dookie.

    If they are stars at least throw in Rudy Gay (better than all three). And now about Ty Lawson as a future star from Carolina? And Tony Woods from Wake has been suspended from the team for assault charges (how can he even make the list?).

    By the way, your system is flawed. Because Steve Nash has won multiple MVP’s that makes Santa Clara honorable mention? Give us a break.

  • Jason- basher

    Battier, Brand, and Hill have made all-star teams, Rudy Gay has not. It’s as simple as that. Get over it. And Tony Woods was suspended after this list came out.

  • Jason- basher

    For further evidence, here is a list that was done last year with different criteria.

    http://davissportsdeli.com/wordpress/?p=370

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  • Apauled

    This list should be titled ‘Which NCAA school is best at producing NBA players just short of Star-status?” Then Battier’s picture at #1 would make sense.

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