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Monday, November 29th, 2010 at 10:00 am  |  184 responses

Miami Heat Players Growing Tired of Erik Spoelstra?

You likely read about and saw the silly hubbub from BumpGate over the weekend, and today ESPN reports that things are growing significantly worse for Erik Spoelstra: “The Miami Heat’s players are frustrated with Erik Spoelstra and some are questioning whether he is the right coach for their team, according to people close to the situation. With the ballyhooed Heat losing four of their last five games and sporting a mediocre 9-8 record, the players are privately grumbling about Spoelstra on several fronts. Sources say the players believe he is not letting them be themselves, that they are questioning his offensive strategies, and that they think he is panicking because he fears losing his job … In contrast to the popular view that Spoelstra has been hesitant to jump on superstars LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, sources say the Heat coach has shown no fear in criticizing them. Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told James that he had to get more serious. The source said Spoelstra called James out in front of the entire team, telling him, ‘I can’t tell when you’re serious.’ ‘He’s jumping on them,’ one source said. ‘If anything, he’s been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn’t believe it. They feel like Spoelstra’s not letting them be themselves.’ It is not known whether the players voiced their concerns about Spoelstra during their players-only meeting following Saturday’s loss at Dallas. Nor is it apparent whether the bump between James and Spoelstra during a timeout in that game was accidental or a result of tension between the two. Regardless, the players also believe Spoelstra’s offensive strategies have been too simplistic, according to the sources. They feel like he is running nothing but pick-and-rolls and telling the Heat’s secondary players to find open spots on the floor for catch-and-shoot jumpers. The sources said the players also think the constant speculation about Spoelstra’s job security is getting to the third-year coach and that he has resorted to nitpicking over minor details because of it.”

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  • SLAM>>>>

    Lol at all the coach vs. players headlines today.. but wow just fire the guy already. It’s clear that at some point it will become the fall back for everything going wrong (if it hasn’t already). The players will become even less forgiving later on in the season and it will get much uglier, I think the Heat need to make a move now to create stability and stop the rumors… its too much too handle

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    ….the Heat is on

  • T-Money

    Wow, there’s a lot of finger pointing in South Beach. Chris Broussard is always legit, he doesn’t make stuff up. It’s obvious that Pat doesn’t want to coach but he may not have a choice. If Spo loses one of the next 3 games vs WAS, DET or CLE, he’s out – simple as that. We can talk about a million different issues but coaches not named Jax, Pop, Sloan don’t get to keep their job when the team is underperforming. And even Jax was canned once.

  • Xavier G

    I feel bad for him because they planned to get him kicked out right after “The Decision”….Ooooh Well, Pistons need a coach so he might get that job

  • http://www.twitter.com/CFleguel The Stro Show

    LeBron likes to say he loves the history of the game. This team needs a respected coach with a history of winning. If only there were someone like that to coach the heat…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The players aren’t the ONLY people tired of Spo.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It’s not fun because Spo is being critical and holding guys accountable? Basketball used to be a man’s game. What happened? Oh, and when was Phil ever fired in the NBA?

  • Max

    He likes to be Playful? Wtf is that sh!t? Lebron needs to take notes on how to act like a superstar from Tim Duncan. Meaning Duncan takes Greg’s criticism without hesitation, and that transcends towards the other players. I don’t know why people are hating on Spo anyway, he did a pretty good job last year, with the crew he had. OMG the Bump!!!! haha a motherf***ing Bump! It wasn’t like Andre Johnson vs Finnegan which was actually newsworthy… Spurs 10-11 Champs

  • AT33

    He told LeBron to get serious? Is this guy on crack? A few weeks ago he told LeBron he couldn’t go out partying with his buddy CP3 after the game.. who does he think he is? His dad or his coach? This guy thinks he is coaching some college team!!! These are pros dude!! Adults! Not college kids! You can’t bring that to a pro team or you’re gone quick. In the pros with lots of veterans you have to be a players coach, you have to give them room, respect them, know that you’re not gonna change their game. You def. don’t wanna call them out on front of the team.. 5 bucks his head is about to roll quick!

  • jay rose

    I am laughing my butt off to all you that said Miami heat is the team to beat this year. Apparently they have been beaten eight times so HAHAHAHA Miami weak!!! Its all about the bulls and DROSE BABY!!!!

  • SLAM>>>>

    Lmao he told LeBron not to party with CP3? Didn’t know about that one.. I hope they lose to the Wiz tonight

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    AT33 with the comment that perfectly illustrates the “diva” route that the game of basketball has unfortunately taken.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I was just going to say the same thing BC. I was hoping AT33 was being sarcastic but I guess not. If your coach wants his star player to be serious and actually try and lead the team/show effort in games, than the coach is out of line?

  • kos87

    It was obvious from the beggining that Spoelstra was unfit to coach a superstar laden team.
    Big name players need a coach with an equally compelling resume to ispire respect.
    Otherwise when he calls them out or gives orders they will start wondering ‘where did this guy come from?’…

  • T-Money

    BC: That would be fine if he were holding HIMSELF accountable too. What does he talk about after every loss? Passion and effort, putting the onus on the players. Never about schemes or why he played Damp only 8 mins even though he was the only one putting a body on Tyson Chandler. And he played Joel Anthony 30 minutes. 30! Peep this quote from Carlisle: “We made a point to get out of the locker room and get loose. Show them that we would be warm and we wanted to pick up the pace. We felt that by pushing the ball, it wasn’t necessarily their game.” That’s a disgrace. Spo admitted himself that he hasn’t even coached offense. He’s got three of the most skilled guys in the league and he wants to be the Detroit Bad Boys. He’s stiff, he can’t adapt. He wants to win games in the low 90s because that’s all he knows whereas this team should be close to 110 every game. Wade and James have said on the record that they’d like to try out more 2-3 PnR to get them in synch. // The issue with the “get serious” comment is that you don’t show up a veteran, one of your main guys in front of the team. LeBron has established a reputation as a hard worker and it has been reported that he was the only player part of every drill with Team USA. At this point in his career, he doesn’t need to put on a screwface to show he’s working in practice. // Jackson was canned in 2004.

  • Brian

    I doubt LeBron bumped Spo on purpose. He’s not really like that. He’s built like a football player, but has the heart of a ballerina.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Thibs yells and screams at his team all the time. Not once has any player on that team said that they weren’t having enough fun or complained about their minutes or even insinuated an aversion to working hard. The end result? The team is winning basketball games and doing well so far this early in the season. Why? Because the players on the Bulls are true “professionals.” They’ve bought in. The one thing you can see when watching Chicago as opposed to Miami is that the Bulls compete. They play hard. They show effort. They win. This Miami situation is showing the true colors of guys who have been hero worshipped far too long and I think it’s good for the game. These guys behave like celebs, not hoopers. It’s disgusting. Bad for basketball.

  • neaorin

    The next move HAS to come from Pat. Either he fires Spoelstra and brings in Mike Brown (lol, settle down Heat fans… I was only joking)… OR… goes in front of the entire team and makes it clear to everyone that Spo will stay for the entire season, at the end of which he (along with everyone else!) will be re-evaluated. If he’s going to keep Spo around he needs to back him up, simple as that. Having a guy coaching scared isn’t going to get them anywhere fast.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It’s funny that with the nitwits that post on this site every day and think they know one bit of pertinent information regarding the game that they can keep making themselves out to be as ignorant as the people they love to bash. There is ONE problem player in the the Heat’s Big Three….TODAY…..RIGHT NOW….not two weeks ago…not at the start of the season. TODAY. It’s Dwyane Wade. Dude has been horrible, pouting, less than a good teammate and a drag on the the other two dudes. Maybe it’s because he’s no longer the lead dog. Maybe it’s because his best buddy may be lost for the season. Maybe it’s because Spo is on the hot seat and for the last two seasons he’s been allowed to do whatever the f*ck he wanted (even when it was detrimental to the overall team structure)cause Spo has a hard on for him. I’m not sure what it is….but for every as(hole that screamed “Chicago, stand up” and “leaders come from the Chi” and all that other happy horses*it, you need to shut the f*ck up and stay your a*s in the basketball stupidity bubble. There’s one dude that was SUPPOSED to be the leader of this team….the Chicago boy, has had played the role of weak sideman for 17 games. Get off the di*k before it comes inside you.

  • LA Huey

    “Phil has had the luxury of having multiple top 10 players on his teams and that’s the ONLY reason he’s won championships” At the very least, the Sith and Grievous have proven it aint that easy.

  • ShadiestBen

    Eboy its about time you got back on here. Fake Eboy is a retard (Alan from Hangover voice). Spo shouldn’t be getting all of the blame, but in the L it’s always (usually) the Coaches who go first. Think the Mavs broadcasters said something the other night which rings true, its pretty hard to fire 12 players.

  • T-Money

    The only reason the college coaches get away with murder is because they’re in a position of authority. Pro athletes make more money, have more job security and are harder to replace than pro coaches. Of course, the relatonship can’t be the same. The great coaches are the ones who understand that they need to COLLABORATE and develop a PARTNERSHIP with their star players. LB did it with AI, Jax is doing it with Kob, Pop is doing it with TD, Doc is doing it with his Big 3. You think Jax would have gotten somewhere with guys like Rodman and Artest if he had tried to box them in and get them in bed by 11 pm?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I can’t believe someone wrote that “the Bulls are winning games” as if they are 18-0 or some sh*t. The Bulls have the exact number of wins as the horrible Heat do. Not sure what that says about that “professional organization of winners”.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Eboy, don’t get mad at me because your 9-8 “super team” has no heart and is full of divas and crybaby’s. Maybe that commercial should be changed from “Fan Up” to “Man Up.” Losers cry and make excuses…all the time.

  • T-Money

    Eboy: I see you. Actually, I’m not even mad at his offense. He’s taking shots he usually makes, they’re just not going down. I’m fine with that. But the defense… oh my. Garbage, random 2-guards are going OFF on Miami. He roams around and gets killed for 3-pointers. Jodie Meeks hit 5 or 6 threes in a quarter while Wade was playing him. LeBatard had a good artilce on that in Sunday’s Herald. // Funny thing is the one guy that was catching the most Heat is the one that’s actually doing his job. Chris Bosh has been playing very good ball lately.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Bro, you’ve got issues. I like it though. It’s a cool quality to have when your superteam dissolved over a decade ago. You were a non-Bulls supporter on these boards up until recently, so I’m not sure how much credence I take with your jealousy since, like you like to say, anyone can be anything they want to on the internet.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    In other words, where the fu*k was your “undying support to the Bulls” when they sucked proverbial di*ks since there was a SLAMOnline? You ain’t playing games with a 12 year old, homeboy.

  • ShadiestBen

    Eboy – Its hard to place the blame on 1 Person in a whole organisation. Brons play hasn’t been upto par either, his stats were always going to go down this year but from an efficiency standpoint he is average, and he is leading the league in TO’s.

  • Fat Lever

    Hahaha, Lebron is all upset because he got called out for not being serious. Only when Lebron gets his head out of his own @$$ will he win a title. He’s fed into his own hype machine.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    So which is it Eboy? Do the Bulls suck or are they good and BC is a bandwagoner? You just spun yourself sideways.

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    I guess no one read my previous comment on the previous Heat thread. Yes, Lebron is a baby and the Heat are becoming unlikeable, but why do we need to make stuff up?
    That CP3/Lebron nonsense never happened, it was reported by the Cleveland Insider and no legitimate news source outside of Wojnarowksi picked it up.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Lebron is the problem.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I’m not even trying to make this a CHI v MIA thing. The Bulls are good so they don’t need to be justified. The “whose fault is it” carousel in Miami continues to spin though. This week’s winner is Spo…or is it DWade? I don’t blame Riley for avoiding that whole situation.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m a non-Bulls supporter? For real, Eboy? You’re really going to say that? Wow… Proof that the bubble of stupidity is in Miami and not Chicago for you to make a dumb-a$$ statement like that. And are you seriously going to sit there and place all the blame on the head of Dwyane Wade when you have the “so-called” best player in basketball on your team? Really? Like I said, man up and quit crying. You may not be 12-years-old, but you’re acting like it right now.

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    That being said, Lebron’s severe lack of effort in the majority of game’s I’ve watched from him have managed to push me away a bit. It’s clear he thought it was going to be easy and is disgruntled that it’s not. Specifically on defense, dude doesn’t even run back sometimes.
    I mean, what are Wade/Lebron/Bosh waiting for? When does the urgency kick in? A fifth of the season is gone— time to start figuring things out.

  • ShadiestBen

    Jukai – Hittin the nail on the head, nothing that has happened this season seems to have even warranted a raise of the eyebrows from Bron. He is lackadaisical to an extreme, whereas in Cleveland he was animated and into it with his team mates all game.

  • The D Train

    The Heat will be fine. They aren’t great right now, but it is early. They probably weren’t winning the title this year, so as a Bulls fan it always scared me where they would be in the next 2-3 years. IF they figure it out, it’ll be scary. Right now, the Bulls are the better team, mostly because of the attitude and effort of the respective teams. Additionally, the Bulls fit together as a team, but the Heat have the advantage of having more guys that, in theory, can singularly take over a game. So as I noted in another post, the Bulls fans are enjoying things right now. That doesn’t mean that we won’t be getting our sh1t handed to us by the boys from down south in the future, but right now we are feelin’ good. Also, as much as I have always disliked LBJ I am enjoying Snake-In-The-Grass Wade’s struggles the most. I really thought the whole flirtation with the Bulls was disingenuous, so watching the Heat fans turn on him and watching him and his power-team struggle gives me the warm fuzzies all over.

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    hmmm

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    Also, I wouldn’t exactly say the Bulls are a better team…. that’s a stretch…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Bryan….to be honest….you bore me. I like you, you know that. But when I took a similar approach to hating the Lakers for the last few seasons, I was called an unabashed Laker hater. You are falling (actually you’re at the bottom of that pit)into a category you like to reserve for a dude like JTaylor. You can go there with those guys and be happy….knock yourself out. But you haven’t addressed my point, that Dwyane has suc*ed. You keep pointing at Lebron, which is fine, but you aren’t answering my point….so your disturbed rants don’t phase me.

  • ShadiestBen

    As of right now there a better team, 9-6/9-8.

  • KING

    Eboy Dwyane Wade is to be blamed? Play a game of basketball injured and sick at the same time and see if you even score a point

  • Ali

    I don’t even think Riley can right this ship. We all know basketball is a TEAM sport. GM’s, Manage! Coaches, Coach! Players, Play! The players, ALL!!! the players have to get out there and perform, PERIOD!, not just the superstars on a particular team. The so-called Miami Big 3 are all awesome players indivdually and have shown they can be that #1 go-to guy or fall back into a #2 or #3 option as they are doing now. But something else is wrong in Miami, don’t think it’s all on the injuries and coach either. Everyone is saying it’s early in the season, but I don’t see it that way, ALL 82 regular season games are important to me, and I’m just a fan!
    Spo has been and is Riley’s #1 prodigy and was SVG understudy for years now he’s getting tossed under the bus. Damn shame! Chalk it up and fire Spo, this is a “RESULTS NOW!” world we live in babe.

  • ShadiestBen

    Eboy – Dwyane has played poorly, but you said he was the ONLY problem with the Heats big three in your initial post.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    King…..there’s something to be said that playing at less than your best is worse than trying to be “doing it the Chicago way”. Unless your last name is Jordan.

  • T-Money

    Bryan: You argued here all summer that LeBron would be Wade’s Pippen. That was convenient for you since you thought the team would actually do way better than 9-8. Now that things are not going so well, Wade is not MJ anymore, he’s not the alpha dog? Bron has not played up to his standards so far but D-Wade has already had 4 of the worst performances I have ever seen from him on the offensive end (including two against their biggest rivals in the East) and hasn’t played a lick of defense yet. As ugly as Bron’s game has been, he’s been better than Wade in every facet of the game. I mean, yeah LeBron is a diva but D-Wade is pouting ON THE COURT, DURING GAMES.

  • The D Train

    The Heat are 1-7 vs. teams with winning records. The Bulls are ahead of them in the EC standings sans Boozer. The Bulls are not currently rebelling against their coach. At this point in time, I don’t know that it’s that much of a stretch to call them the better team. As noted, though, there is a very strong possibility that will not remain the case…heck, it might not even be the case in a week. But as we sit today, I think one could make a strong case for the boys from the Windy City.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Eboy, I read that column by LeBatard blaming DWade, and apparently, so did you. Gimme a break…

  • All Day

    5…4…3…2…1…boom goes the dynamite!

  • KING

    Everyone has to take responsibility whether it be DWade Leb*tch or chris bosh and all the role players. But Spo has got to go because his offense is TOO DAMN PREDICTABLE

  • All Day

    LeBron and D-Wade cannot play together…both guys need the ball in their hands to be effective and neither one can play without the ball.

  • YokoDMV

    Eboy is like a slam celebrity….

  • ShadiestBen

    All I’m hearing from these reports are Spo holds players accountable and wants them to take the game seriously. Wow. Fire him now. (Chris Mannix).

    The people who should be held responsible are the teams best players.

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    The D Train: The Bulls have had a far favorable schedule, but outside of that, I’m unconvinced Boozer is going to have a massive effect on the team. He’s really just a rich man’s Taj Gibson, I don’t think he brings any greater dynamic. He’s better at creating his own shot, but with Rose, not sure how much that will be used.
    I believe the people injured/not playing for the Heat will greatly change the dynamic of their team. Miller will vastly change how the Heat play, and once someone hits Spo over the head and he STARTS USING THE FRIGGIN FORMER NBA FINALS STARTING CENTER he has on the end of his bench, the defense will improve as well.
    I dunno, I’ve just watched the Bulls and they haven’t entirely impressed me. It’s just Rose and a bunch of semi-okay guys getting lucky rebounds. Noah’s skilled, but that’s it.

  • KING

    T-Money if lebron has been better at every facet of the game why does wade have more rebounds?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I haven’t stuck up for Bron one bit either…so kill the noise that I’m riding dude’s co*k….that’s a chore reserved for cats that wear yellow and purple panties.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    T-Money, who didn’t think they would better than 9-8 at this point? That shouldn’t just be an indictment on me because nobody thought differently. And yes, I said that Bron would be “Pippen,” but you and others argued that it would be the reverse, did you not? So it’s funny how you would bring up my statement and not reference your own stating the exact opposite. Vince Thomas was right, it truly is “protectionism” when it comes to LeBron James. He’s playing below his standards and it’s OK. DWade plays below his, and it’s not OK and he takes all the blame for the failure of the Heat.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    @T-Money – DWade’s stats are almost identical to Lebron’s yet DWade is playing bad and Lebron is playing well. I don’t get it.
    @Eboy – Props on the jtaylor21 jab. I love that that’s about as low as a poster can get – being like jtaylor21. Haha.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Oh, and Jukai, 2 straight weeks on the road, 7 games in 13 days, and 3 back-to-backs should not be considered a “favorable schedule.” That’s got to be tougher than any other team’s schedule 17 games in.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Wade has played well with others before in his career, Lebron is a ball stopper.It’s his game that is the hangup. If people can’t see that they don’t know basketball.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Diesel….there’s a difference between playing well in the stats column and seeing a dude struggling to make sh*t happen. Dwyane’s struggling to make sh*t happen….Lebron isn’t. Their results may be similar but Lebron’s game is in adjustment mode moreso than Dwyane’s. That’s pretty obvious. Lebron has said he expects Dwyane to be the primary scorer. That’s what Dwyane does.

  • http://www.twitter.com/Chris_Griff_3 Chris_Griff_3

    I wonder if Riley’s got the balls to trade Lebron.

  • ShadiestBen

    Saying Wade is the only problem IS defending the other guys, whether you mention them by name or not.

  • MikeC.

    During the offseason, I knew the Heat would be jousting with an Atlantic Division team over playoff positioning. I just figured it would be the Celtics, not the Knicks.

  • T-Money

    Bryan Crawford: 1- You obviously didn’t catch the part where I said that Bron was not playing well at all. And I obviously missed the part where I said that it was “okay”, could you point it out for me? I’ve been saying here that EVERYONE is to blame for this. From the coaches to the bench warmers, nobody is performing right now. Look it up. My issue is that you’re ONLY talking about LeBron and no one else (like always). How can you blame LeBron for the horrible start and give a free pass to D-Wade and Spo? You’ve never said one word about their performance. Also, I don’t know how it can be argued that Wade is not the one playing the worst of all 3 right now. It’s evident. 2- Please don’t bastardize other writers’ arguments. Re-read Vince’s column, it surely does not apply in this context.

  • http://slamonline.com hanson

    hey,please stop the heat duo to MJ-pippen comparisons.the south beach boyz 1st need to master the fundermentals,otherwise they wont be superstars by age 30.

  • ShadiestBen

    Hmm that sounds like sticking up for LeBron…..
    Wade’s struggles are a blessing for some people as it covers up how poorly Bron is doing also.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Assumptions make you even stupider than you seem.

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    What’s sad is this:
    -Spo is right that Lebron and Wade need to be held accountable. They are playing like crap. They are passing on wide open shots for tougher contested shots because they’re not ‘comfortable’ with the offense. They’re not giving it all on defense, preferring not to fight around screens or make tight switches. Worst of all, when one or the other have the ball in their hands, the off-man just plants himself at an area of the three point line which he is uncomfortable with. These players need a wakeup call.
    -Lebron and Wade are right…. SPO NEEDS TO BE FIRED.
    What in the world will yelling at Wade/Lebron accomplish when they seem unable to get into the team concept with a clear lack of offense scheme put in place? Structure is what is needed, if you just run a top-of-the-arch pick with a bunch of runners with no staggered screens, it’s just going to break down to a bunch of isos, which is going to lead to guys sitting around on offense, which leads to no one doing anything on defense. Plus, if you want to build your team around a strong defensive scheme, why are your two best defenders (Dampier and Chalmers) glued to the bench? That’s apesh*t crazy!
    Finally, while yes, Lebron and Wade need to be called out, how in the world is YELLING AT THEM GOING TO MAKE ANYONE HAPPY?
    How many times did Phil yell at Jordan? Kobe?
    What did yelling at Chamberlain accomplish?
    Popavich yells at his players regularly, but rarely ever says anything to TD. Is Tim Duncan that perfect?
    Damnit, Westhead raised his voice at Magic, demanded Magic do things HIS way, and look what happened to Westhead.
    The only coach I know who yells at his stars whenever he wants is Sloan— and Spo is no Sloan. You need to know what you can do to what ego. Yes, Lebron deserved to be scolded like the brat he’s acting like, but when you openly admit that a month into the season you haven’t drawn up any offensive sets for your .500 team, you may not want to be the person who does it.
    I can’t say for sure that Spo didn’t try this already, but despite what some kids (JTaylor) will say, Wade and Lebron have egos easily the size of Kobe. You have to treat them like royalty, the only way to change their way is by manipulating them via Phil.
    Maybe Spo tried talking to them, hinting to them what would make them better, gently pushing them in the right direction… but yelling at a guy who held a f*cking one hour special to declare his next occupation (ie: huge f’ing ego) infront of his squad?
    Good grief, is anyone surprised Lebron didn’t take kindly to that? Is it a surprise the team isn’t happy with Spo either?
    I said it in the beginning (I even disagreed with Eboy about this, who was gushing about the fact) that turning this Heat Squad into an all-defense figure-out-yourself-offense team is dumb as horsesh*t. You have the two best offensive players in the NBA, draw up a billion plays and run it through them. Be the best defensive team you can be, don’t expect to win games that way. Aspire to be Showtime, not Bad Boys.
    Or, as my good friend Anton would say, take your talents to the unemployment line.
    End.

  • KING

    @chris_griff_3 i was wondering the same thing lol

  • MikeC.

    I’m not sure if this is relevant or not, but people are blaming Spoelstra for a lack of offensive imagination. That the offense ends up with Lebron pounding the ball waiting to make something happen. Wasn’t this the exact same issue in Cleveland? Wasn’t Lebron asked to move more without the ball and let others set him up, but he didn’t want to change his game and become a role player? At some point, it’s the players and not the coach. Spoelstra was hailed as a young genius all summer, and all of a sudden he’s an idiot that needs to be canned? I think he’s trying to get the players to adapt to new ideas and roles, they’re resisting because it’s hard and Spoelstra won’t let them walk all over him. That’s just my take. The players shouldn’t force out Spoelstra in an attempt to get Riley to coach them. It’s not like Riley will let them do whatever they want and not work. Riley worked his players harder than anyone in the league when he was on the bench.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Yeah i see BC’s “i’ma comment less on Slamonline now” resolution is bearing fruit….. unless Miami loses or falters, then it’s off to the races.
    Careful Bryan, i can virtually see Eboy foaming at the mouth and your gloating won’t help when Team-Celeb (as if being a part of an exclusive organisation, the Nba, that is televised and has millions of fans doesn’t make one a celebrity by default) probably get’s their ish together.
    Oh well, proceed fellas.
    (glad i only appreciate 2 players on the Heat, true miami fans are PISSED at all the gloating).

  • http://sdfjlkf.com Jukai

    @MikeC: That also never happened. Lebron was never asked to play more off the ball. Actually, Mike Brown never ever suggested anything about getting the ball out of Lebron’s hands. Where did you hear that? Can you get a source for that?
    Where did you hear Spo getting hailed as a young genius, btw? I never liked Spo, always thought he used great guys like Beasley wrong, and I openly criticized him for trying to turn Miami into some super-defensive juggernaut…. so I can say, with a fair amount of certainty, I always found him to be an idiot. I know many who feel the same way I do, and have always felt that way. I really haven’t heard the opposite.

  • T-Money

    Bryan: Wade is shooting 58% at the rim (his lowest percentage ever, 10 below his usual numbers) and 15% (15!!!!!!) from midrange. That’s on Bron?

  • Jahmai

    I’ve been watching the Heat games on League Pass and both Lebron’s and Wade’s games have been disturbing. I know they both dominated the ball in years before, and didn’t have THAT much success in doing so (1 chip comined, as everybody knows) but it was hella fun to watch. If LeBron had, 23,5,8 it would’ve been a mediocre night. Now? Those are his avg per game. Same goes for Dwade. They said: ‘Oh, well now LeBron is going to be more like Magic, doing it all, bla bla bla, TOTAL BS! In Cleveland he DID IT ALL! Dude was just great, not only statisticly speaking, but just his overall performances. Everybody is talking about their record and how it’s not as expected. They’ll work it out, but I already miss Dwade and Bron’s game.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    @ Jukai; Slow clap…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Dark…to be honest…I never thought the Heat were winning the title THIS SEASON. People that can read English know this from the site. To me, it was too much to ask, too soon. The commitment is a 6 year one (with the opt out at Year 4)….should I be dying inside with 17 games down and they look like crap right now? C’mon my man, I’ve lived through a 15 win season just 3 years ago….this is fun to me!!!!

  • BkNy

    Also, T-Mac was right about Bron and Wade.

  • MikeC.

    The Heat are underperforming and the coach is asking them to try something different. Sounds kinda like how things work everywhere else in the world. Workers aren’t performing properly and the competition is coming out on top. The boss asks the workers to make some changes and try something new, or there will be consequences. I’m with Spoelstra. As for Lebron not being allowed to party with Chris Paul, that can’t all be put at Spoelstra’s door either. Spoelstra is a Riley disciple. If anyone on here watched the Knicks and Heat in the 90′s, you’ll remember Riley teams had an us against the world mentality. Riley really fostered that bunker mentality and wanted his teams to hate the rest of the league. No surprise that Spoelstra doesn’t want Lebron partying with the other team’s best player.

  • ShadiestBen

    Jukai – To directly quote a SI writer off Twitter ‘Spo guided MIA to 47 wins last year, that was like getting water from a rock’
    He’s not a bad coach at all, what he’s proving is that he is not a flexible coach.

  • http://brimartin13@gmail.com Brion

    This is why Phil Jackson IS the zen master, its a special kind of skill to manage a bunch of ego’s and win the chips.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    T-Money: I blame LeBron because he is “allegedly” the best player in basketball. Obviously, you believed me when I said DWade would be Jordan to LeBron’s Pippen and I believed you when you said the opposite. It’s funny that they’re both playing like Pippen right now so I guess we were both wrong. And I understood very well the context of Vince’s piece which is why I intentionally left off the “black” part. However, the context of the article as a whole certainly applies to what goes on in here… So I’m not bastardizing anything.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    @MikeC: Spo isn’t asking Lebron/Wade to change anything. He’s telling them to play with more passion in a system that’s not working. Just stop, will you?
    @ShadiestBen: Ugh… which SI writer?
    I think he’s a pretty poor coach. Crazy rotation patterns, bad situational use of players, and no offensive scheme. That’s not a good coach to me. Which means he’ll probably win coach of the year if he stays.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Honestly, all I know is the most talked about/most written about/most hated/most covered/most thought about sports team in all of America plays in my backyard. That didn’t seem possible 6 months ago. So suck it.

  • T-Money

    MikeC: yeah… that would be a valid point if it were actually true. I think that sometimes fans hear TV guys saying stuff and assume that’s what the coaches are asking the players to do. The high pick n rolls and the ISOs were coming from the bench in Cleveland. Mike Brown has never, ever tried to get Mo to play on the ball and has never, ever tried to run. On Spo, he admitted himself that there’s no offensive playbook to speak of right now, he wants the players to “figure it out”. Either they run a high screen for Wade or James, or they give it Bosh on the pinch post and clear out his side. Yeah, you could say that’s a lack of offensive imagination.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Bryan Crawford: I mostly agree with your bashing of Lebron. He’s taken full reigns of the offense and it’s hurting Wade… meanwhile, Lebron has not made the notion of even trying to work off the ball, while Wade is giving it his all and failing.
    That being SAID though, you DID say Lebron would be Pippen and Wade would be Jordan… and Lebron came in and EASILY took the Jordan spot on that team. Wade didn’t even fight it. Really, the only reason I’m pointing this out is because I was arguing with you on this, so, you know, just wanted to give ya a heads up.

  • ShadiestBen

    Jukai – Anyone who thinks Spoelstra can’t coach, look at last season’s 47-win team. That was like getting water out of a rock.
    Thats the direct quote, it was Chris Mannix. I agree with the offensive scheme part, but I think that when the Heat players have been engaged the rotations have been good.

  • Cizzo

    Bron , Wade, and Bosh really thought that somehow majicaly evertyhing was going to peaches and cream and the NBA would tremble at their feet! At first, I had E Spo pegged as a bum coach, but it’s the mini 3….. They don’t work to achieve geatness, they are a happy being Million Dollar SouthBeach Bumms…. if I was E Spo I would put in my two week notice and spend the of the year drunk on south Beach… got out while you still can E Spo….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    *yawns*

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    @ShadiestBen: Well, I thought the 47-win season was a testimony to how GREAT Wade was cause I saw Spo fail so much as a coach last year at end game situations… but I’ll give ya it’s totally debatable. From what we see now, Wade certainly wasn’t calling all the shots, cause Spo isn’t afraid to butt heads.
    I’m a bit mystified with your rotation comment though. I wasn’t referring to player movement on the court or anything, I meant how Spo subs in players— one time he’ll put Joel Anthony in for 20, others for 2 minutes, Chalmers will randomly appear and then be yanked, sometimes Lebron will sit the second, other times the third…. it doesn’t let players get in their grooves, and I’d let it slide if it looked like Spo was doing it for matchups, but he’s not, he’s just tinkering with things, and during the season, you can’t really do that. If you wanna tinker, you gotta make either a LARGE SUDDEN CHANGE or one change at a time. Not “lemme totally f around with three different rotations and see if that works.”
    He also has to fix the ball situation. At any given time, Arroyo, Wade, or Lebron bring up the ball. I didn’t play organized ball for very long, but that would even mess my rhythm up— have one guy primarily bring up the ball. I have a hard time believing he told one dude to bring up the ball and they’re phasing him out, given that Arroyo does it way too much.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Myles: How’s dem Timberwolves doing?

  • MikeC.

    @Jukai – I went a little overboard on the “genius” part, but he was certainly a young up and comer all summer, especially after taking Miami to the playoffs last season with that roster. As for Lebron being asked to play off the ball more, his ball-pounding has been the main negative point of his game since he entered the league. Cleveland’s offense was much more fluid when Lebron was running off screens and not standing at the top pounding the ball into the floor.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    @MikeC: So, in other words, Lebron was NEVER asked to play off the ball by any of his coaches, you just decided to make that up because you felt he played better playing off the ball?
    Also, how was Cleveland’s offense so much better when he was running off the ball when, you know, they didn’t make the playoffs until Lebron started dominating the ball?
    You know, don’t worry about responding. I’m alright.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Meh. Bout as expected. Thanks to Riles, of course.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Jukai: When did I deny making the statement that DWade would play MJ to Bron’s Pippen? And if Bron has come in and taken over the “Jordan” spot from Wade then that means that I was wrong and everyone else was right. So the question then becomes, why are we blaming “Pippen”? He’s just the sidekick.

  • Ali

    @ Cizzo, I’m dying laughing! I can see him down at The South Beach Marriott lounge/sport bar sippin’ on something good, saying “I told ya’ll it wasn’t Me” after MIA gets ran up out the gym in the playoff, if they even make the playoffs at all. WUUUUWEEEE

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Bryan: I’m not blaming “Pippen,” at least not more than I’m blaming “Jordan.”
    In my opinion, Wade tried to change his game for Lebron and it’s utterly failing. That being said, it does appear that Lebron is utterly unwilling to change his game, to try and set screens and go in the paint and run off the ball. That’s not how Riley sold him, so how DARE anyone think he should try something new.
    I didn’t really want to interject in you and Eboy’s lover spat, but like, you know, just wanted to give a small nod that I was right about Lebron being the Jordan and Wade being the Pippen.

  • MikeC.

    @Jukai – I did some checking, and Lebron’s over-handling isn’t as horrendous as earlier in the year. Truth be told, I haven’t seen a Heat game in a couple weeks except the 2nd half of the Mavs game. My argument about the over-handling was based on stats before the last handful of games when it seemed like Lebron was turning the ball over 5 times for each completed assist. As for Lebron playing off the ball, it was Jeff Van Gundy that said it. Granted, he had nothing to do with anything, but I respect JVG’s opinion. When Lebron has the ball in his hands, it seems like teams can load up on him, and ignore the rest of the team. It seems to be working while Wade is playing hurt. As for Cleveland not making the playoffs until Lebron started dominating the ball, they also didn’t make the playoffs until they improved their roster from the one that sucked enough to land them the #1 overall pick.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It “appears” that he’s utterly unwilling to change his game? He said he wasn’t changing his game. A direct quote from LeBron on the night of the Heat/Sixers game:

    “No, I can’t change my game dramatically… It doesn’t make any sense to do that. I’m not going to.” He paused. “I’d just be a role player at that point.” Bill Reiter compared LeBron to Wilt… Not the first time I’ve heard that.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-the-next-jordan%3F-more-like-wilt-chamberlain

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    Spoelstra is definitely a good coach. But he just hasn’t figured out how to put this team together yet. Not every coach is good for/with every team. If these guys are worried about not being able to be themselves with Spoe, then they will really hate playing under Riley who would be a lot more ‘directive’ about how they approach and play games. Jackson is necessarily free from player/coach tensions either – doesn’t make him a bad coach. The similarities in LBJ’s and Wade’s games were known prior to the decision so I’m still surprised that they haven’t figured out how to maximize their talents yet. I’m sure Riley, Spolestra and others talked about that before the season and whatever they come up with just isn’t working. Maybe by all-star break they’ll have it figured out.

  • ShadiestBen

    Jukai – I thought you meant defensive rotations, substitution patterns I agree there is no set rotation, but I think a lot of that is down to the players. Spo doesn’t know what he’s going to get from guys each night.
    To solve the ball issue it could be best just to let Arroyo handle it and get Wade and Bron moving off the ball.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Can we please start referring to them as Clyde Drexler and Terry Porter? They don’t deserve to be reffered to as MJ and Pippen.

  • JTaylor21

    Typical ish from Bull-sh*t fans to dowmplay the sidekick’s roll in the 90s bulls success; Pippen”? He’s JUST the sidekick. Without the “sidekick”, your deity would just be another elgin baylor and wouldn’t be worshiped by millions of people. This is coming from a chap that claimed he still rememebers watching the bulls play and claims to “understand” the game, child please!

  • Ali

    @ Diesel, Really doe! Actually Terry Porter had a tight defensive game and was a hustle hound around the ball everytime he stepped on the court, these cats are lacking both of these traits big time.

  • http://djflkf.com Jukai

    @ShadiestBen: I get that is why Spo is doing it, but it’s not helping, it’s making things worse cause players don’t know when they’re going to be called up and the team doesn’t know how to gel with whoever they’re playing with. It’s a sign of bad coaching.

  • http://djflkf.com Jukai

    Defensive rotations ARE horrible though. So you can either look at the players for that, who tend to get lost and focus more on figuring out who they should be guarding instead of GUARDING them… or blame the coach for implimenting this system of rotational switches which involve this bizarre overuse of switching before the pick is even complete. Why should Lebron and Big Z switch out? Isn’t Lebron fast enough to run around a pick?
    I’m just tired. My head hurts thinking about this. Really, Wade and Lebron need to man-up, go up to Spo, and talk to Spo about implimenting a more complicated offensive strategy. Work it out with him. Don’t just whine and give it 75% every game.

  • http://slamonline.com Nella

    At this point, its an insult to Scottie to call Wade or Lebron the “Pippen” in this dynamic, as Pip did the thankless tasks necessary to win, like taking charges, initiating offense, and shutting down fools.

  • http://djflkf.com Jukai

    Pippen wouldn’t make my top-5 all-time Small Forward list. Not a chance.
    But I’m really only stating that to piss off JTaylor.
    I’m taking a nap, see you during the Miami/Washington game, kids.

  • http://slamonline.com Nella

    @ Jukai-

    I’d really like to see your list then.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    If the Lakers were 9-8 ans struggling, nobody would be blaming Pau or Lamar Odom, would they? Groupies…

  • flash

    What is wrong with the Heat? Expectations were set too high. This is a new team. Every team that plays them wants to beat them BADLY. Injuries to two key players. Ego. Those are 5 reasons. Put them together and you have a problem.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I know the MJ commercial is older, but its eerily appropriate:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=EalorZaTlI8

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Kobe is probably to blame for the heat’s struggles too , BC.

  • ShadiestBen

    Bryan C – If Lakers were 9-8, Kobe would be over the hill & Heat would be declared champs for the next 4 years.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Lebron was never taught how to play with others. He’s a spoiled basketball player.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    You know what, flash just posted something extremely important that has been overlooked; the other teams. When they lost @ home to the Jazz, Deron (and CP3) had a look on his face throughout the entire game of f++k these muthaf++kaz. He usually only has that face against the Lakers. The other teams are playing with motivation because of the homoesque celebration they had before the season started… Which also nulify’s all excuses for their non-success.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Miami has an nba team?

  • flash

    Its time…..to get two teams….

    Arroyo
    Wade
    James Jones
    Bosh
    Dampier

    and

    Mario Chalmers
    Eddie House (Mike Miller)
    Lebron James
    J.Howard (my god, you have to get something here while UDs out)
    Ilgauskas

    Two teams……Two do it all
    Bosh can play with any of them……
    That can work for now, until you can get some PG or a real Center, and Haslem and Miller heal their injuries

  • ab40

    you can replace the players with lebron. and chris bosh is the biggest puff on that team. saying the players want to chill and the coach wants to work and he has to meat the players half way. I didn’t know spoelstra was tough on them. That’s good. The thing is he is an nba guy not a guy who’s worked his way up the college ranks so the fundamental training will be less than they should be. they need some young players. hell sign promising talent from the D-leage because these old guys arn’t good at their jobs.

  • showtime

    Haha this Miami vs chi town fued is hilarious I’m glad to be a lakers fan where we just sit back n collect rings and watch super teams fall apart

  • T-Money

    BC: you’re so transparent. go ahead, blame lebron and give a pass to d-wade. we’ll see if you think that wade is still pippen when miami goes on a winning streak (and they will). only idiots already know who to blame before the fact. if the lakers were 9-8 and kobe was playing out of his mind, yes i would blame pau and lamar. kobe arguably had his best season ever when his team was sh-t. in this case, they’re all playing terribly so it really doesn’t matter. the fact that you can decide a priori who to blame is mind boggling. i’ll step out of that discussion, it’s very boring. i’m much more interested in talking about how to fix this mess.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Speaking of transparency , you’re so transparent we can actually see Lebron when he’s inside of you. It’s unreal, the guy can just do no wrong even when he is clearly the one in the wrong here. He’s the only one unwilling to make concessions to his game to make this work. He never changed his game in Cleveland and he hurt everyone’s production there also. He is the problem, he is a second banana player with a first banana ego.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Shia…..you’re wrong, but that’s in no way a first for you, so it’s all good.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Eboy on FB did we not say at one time your team is better with Lebron facilitating and Wade attacking? Or am I imagining that? I don’t think I’m wrong here, every single “star” that has played with Lebron has seen a significant dip in their production, which in turn makes the “his teammates failed him” argument pretty easy to throw out. The guy is a ball stopper plain and simple. There is no flow to the offense because he dribbles holes in the floor. It’s not surprising to me Lebron plays his best when Wade is off the floor. he doesn’t know how to share the load with another superstar. Period. Wade did it with Shaq and won a title, Lebron does it his way and no one has the guts to call him out on it.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    T-Money: I never said or thought that DWade was Pippen, you did. I said DWade would be MJ, remember? Of course you do because you brought it up. Way to try and spin that one. So transparent… Oh, and only idiots know who to blame before the fact? I don’t get that one. We’re 17 games in already. I have something to work from. It’s not like I’ve “pre-blamed” Bron for a 9-8 start that I saw coming before the season even started. Come on, son… And if you’re one of those people who would give credit to Kobe if his play was great and blame Pau and LO for playing poorly for a 9-8, struggling Laker squad, then kudos to you. Not everyone else here would and I think you know who I’m referring to… Finally you go ahead wasting your time trying to solve Miami’s problems as if you have the power to do so and if talking about it here is going to actually fix anything. That’s not only boring, but stupid.

  • The Philosopher

    Again, once Riley comes downstairs, things will be better.
    He has to make a move soon though, or else we are witnessing the greatest choke job in NBA History.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And quite simply that means that Lebron needs to have the ball in his hands most of the time and Dwyane should be an off the ball scorer. Simple. That’s not happening. I’ll tell you as bluntly as it can be said. Lebron has created about 100 more open shots for Jones, House and even sorry-ass Arroyo then Dwyane has. Why? Because Bron’s court vision is about 50 % better than Dwyane’s. Dwyane has had tunnel vision. Lebron hasn’t. In the games Dwyane’s struggled with his offense, Bron has raised his offense. On the small handful of nights Dwyane was on, Bron took the back seat. There’s no huge Unsolved Mystery here. They should be playing pick and roll together about 25 possessions a game too. Or let me coach them.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I rather enjoy scat play. Does anyone have diarrhea? Im hungry

  • The Philosopher

    And, for people who think Phil Jackson is over sung, introducing…

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    I’ll have to defer to you on this subject I guess. But the games that I have seen, have Lebron pounding a dribble and hitting Wade in spot up situations not attack situations. Like I said I’ve seen a only a few games , but in those games Wade isn’t doing anything because he’s standing in the corner or on the wing while Lebron Isos. Running an offense or being a facilitator means getting people the ball where they’re comfortable and it also means bringing the ball up , setting the offense and getting out of the way sometimes, even if that offensive set is “give Wade the ball with room to operate.”

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m sure DWade would like to see Bron post up more and Bron would like to see DWade cut every now and then. But we can’t always get what we want, can we?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Eboy, will you give me a cleveland steamer?

  • Mr. Robinson

    Crawford is in dung heaven right now. lol all yall on the heat’s d*ck earlier trying to find answers. you guys are hilarious, man.
    I got something 4 you guys who think these boys are “super friends”
    DON’T… BELIEVE… THE HYPE!!!
    Waddup Philosopher

  • Mr. Robinson

    Hey Philosopher didn’t you say you think the Heat will win the chip??? What’s going on, man?

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    Wow, that pressure must be somthing else on south beach…When did Eboy become a deranged psychopath? Hes always been a strange duck but this new brand of crazy is fairly entertaining.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I think it’s cool that someone is posting ridiculous things in my name. It’s kind of like someone setting up a fake Twitter account and then pretending to be you. It doesn’t bother me…everyone knows it’s not me anyway. But it just goes to show how far losers will go to get attention. They crack themselves up.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’m still not sold that not’s really Bryan.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Don’t feel bad, B. I’ve had dudes post as Eboy, White Hot Eboy or WhitEboy (all my alias)at different intervals in my SLAM posting life, so it’s more of a flattery thing than anything else now.

  • BostonCritic

    Can yall imagine if Miami would of Kept Wade and Beasley, picked up Bosh and a legit center and point guard with the $$ they saved from Lebron?

  • The Philosopher

    @Mr. Robinson:
    You know The King is my dude.
    He could have went to a lottery team, and I still would say his team will win the title. You know how it is.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It’s like some sort of weird cult following, huh E? But more than likely it’s just some stupid teenager. At least I hope it’s a stupid teenager and not some dumba$$ grown man doing something so childish and silly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I like to think I’ve had a cult following since ’06. Like Jim Jones though, my cult is killing themselves off slowly with “Kool-Aid”.

  • JTaylor21

    Where is all the kobe bashing for his play in crunch-time recently. Dude has chucked up two airballs in two different games in the clutch and passed up another one to artest? It seems like kobe can do no wrong in people and laker flunkies eyes, keep chucking kobe, they will love and worship you even more.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Jim Jones would’ve been a much more successful rap artist had he not murdered all his original fans that one time in Guyana. What a dummy.

  • The Philosopher

    They killed themselves…

  • The Philosopher

    Well, some of them did.

  • benno

    EBOY more like batty boy, stop thinking your charles barkley, and stop crying because your team sucks!!!! i mean you know your falling to pieces when lequeen shoulder barges your coach.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Leave it to Philo to get all “technical” and stuff.

  • The Philosopher

    Don’t sweat the technique.
    (Rakim)
    Nah, you know…
    My bad.

  • JTaylor21

    ^Wow, swing and a miss with the bad joke. Striiiike two!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    No prob, bro. Just joking…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Far from crying benno. Just airing grievances with a team currently underperforming. You on the other hand suck at grammar and insults, so you need a bit more help than the Heat and I do.

  • JTaylor21

    That wasn’t at ya Philo, it was at the “expert”.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    There is still 65 games left in the season

  • benno

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO – soz eboy – go back to working at disney world, and stop thinking you work for TNT

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    New Heat logo revealed: http://tinyurl.com/23le77t

  • benno

    Anton – MEGA lol

  • benno

    i bet eboy loves that

  • benno

    in fact eboy, if you tell us where you sit at the heat games, we will be able to spot you

  • Blackphantom

    dang JTaylor, this article isn’t about Kobe, it’s about the Heat, can’t you read the headline? We all know Kobe missed some crunch-time shots, but this isn’t an article about that, is it? Ok then, anyway, D-Wade needs to play better, Lebron needs to stop being a diva, and Chris Bosh needs to toughen up, that’s what most of the struggles in MIA are about right now. Some blame could fall on Spo, but I’d put most on the players

  • ClydeSays

    Fast or slow starts don’t mean much in the League. Do Hornets or Spurs fans expect those teams to keep up this pace? If the Heat can stop pointing fingers and figure out how to play together over the next 20 games, they’ll be ok.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    My fudge packed butt crack smells like food

  • tRay

    Spo is right LBJ does need to get more serious. It’s ok to have fun but what happened to him being mad and ish? Seems like a lot of talk to me. Bottom line anyone who says they suck is retarted cuz they’ll figure it out stop hating so damn much and just chill. On the other hand the Heat need to come together as a team and stop pointing fingers and just ball. For God sakes just run some freaking plays and you’ll when some damn games.

  • http://www.slamonline.com NickthaQuick

    When the going gets rough for Lebron fan JTaylor21, turn the argument to be about Kobe who has absolutely nothing to do with the troubles of the Heat. Easy solution!

  • The D Train

    @NickthaQuick: make fun if you must, but it’s actually quite an effective ploy. Just last night my wife was arguing with me about household chores. I quickly flipped it on her by saying “Oh yeah, well how come you’re not b1tching at Kobe? He didn’t help out with these chores at all, and he refused to help his wife last week with their chores. Why no outrage then?” She was so flabbergasted she just turned and walked away.

  • http://djflkf.com Jukai

    ^^^^^
    Super win

  • http://www.slamonline melvin ely

    D Train: Hats off to you sir. That reminds me of a Louie CK (sp?) joke about arguments. Well done.

  • The Philosopher

    I still cannot get over how The King assaulted his coach on live television.
    AND got away with it.
    LONG… LIVE… KING!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    The king also assaulted my bunghole that is why I hate on him so blindly and without remorse. Now I know how glorias bunghole feels, red and swollen.

  • Balher

    I understand LeBron James is a great player and he’s playful and what not, but at the end of the day he ain’t perfect. Up to this point in his career he still hasn’t learn to take criticism..Now maybe Spo. has taken the big 3 out of their element’ but that’s no excuse for their lack luster effort. Watching the Heat (paticulary lebron and d wade) flat out disgust me because they stand around so damn much and do nothing when they don’t have the ball.While settling for jump shots instead of attacking the rim. Which to this point of their careers is what their best at.

    Then again i’m just saying.

    Then again im just sayin.

  • http://hibachisabas.blogspot.com/ Toni Kukoc

    Eboy, ever go and re-read what you write?
    love your passion.
    for i love this game as a whole not one marketed team.

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    BEST COMMENTS OF THE BUNCH:
    neaorin 10:41 am
    Yoko DMV 11:21 am
    The philosopher 1:53 pm (my man!) same as neaorin, u summed it all
    and Anton 3:53 pm (ur the funniest dude)

    Hope I did a summary like that in my GMAT test…

  • http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/author/hollymackenzie/ Ghost

    Uhh Bryan? You okay man?

  • Fat Lever

    Can we finally say that a Lebron James team panics, sometimes?

  • Jay Reyes

    if i were Spo, i’d resign and let the other coaches take care of the problem. the management there need to take one of them out of the picture so the whole world would know who the real problem is.

    the questions are: if Spo’s offense is predictable or if Bron/Wade/Bosh are uncoachable (when i say uncoachable, i mean Spo cant squeeze the talent out of them)

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    90% of this drama is created by the media, so-called “journalists.” Who gives a sh!t? We all know most of you want Riley coaching the Heat–and the “journalists” definitely do, so they’re putting out stupid gossip stories to get things stirred up. Who gives a sh!t?

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Top ten reasons for the Heat’s losing ways: (according to heat fans) #10 the ghost of Chris Bosh’s dread locks. #9Adrian Wojno’s massive Broner. #8definitely NOT Haslem, who needs him?… #7All things Cleveland. AKA “Cryveland” The utter dispair that brought down thier franchise is hovering over Miami like a sworm of locust. Damn you Cleveland! Damn you to HELL!!! #6 Scott “the whore of Akron” Raab, of ESQUIRE magazine fame. #5 Phil Jackson is an over-rated douche bag. #4 Dwayne motherf*cking Wade’s unselfish selfishness is hurting the king. You’re no Scottie Maurice Pippen. #3 Kobe Bryant deserves some of the blame and if you can’t see that your just another “slurper”. #2 CARLOS. Muff said. And at #1 Most responsible for the “Bust 3″ it’s Eric! (think Billy Madison) yes, Its Eric “Hey, watch were your going man!” Spoelstra. Note to self, shooting mind bullets at the worlds greatest superstar after purposefully bumping into said mega star is one way to single handedly destroy all hope for the season.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Teddy I eat sh!t do you have any for me? Me need big brown dookie mouth.

  • Justin

    How can anyone blame one player for what’s going on in Miami? Lebron has been less than stellar, DWade has played as bad as I’ve ever seen him and Bosh is lost half the time although playing better as of late. Throw in some injuries and this isn’t exactly a surprise. I think all three figured it would be easy and a lot of teams would just roll over for them but now they are finding it to not be the case. Lebron might just be the most weak-minded superstar in history. You don’t complain about not having a guy to take some of the pressure off, get 2 superstars gift wrapped to you and then not only play like crap yourself but not figure out how to get the other guys going?

  • SpamsLots

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aq.BShviDkQD3M9n0p5Lhv.8vLYF?slug=aw-lebronspoelstra112910

    I get the feeling that James is just, plainly, a bully and an 455hole.

  • Crustified Dibbz

    I love to read The comments here & watch Brian Crawfish try to explain himself every comment & act like he’s the Brain to the Pinky but he’s just a little mouse :-) B.C. : Has MJ won any titles with Doug Collins ? C’mon man youre playin’ yourself. Wer’e all just waitin for it to happen SPo out Pat in. The Heat just need what all the Big Headed dummys with no leader or direction need after a while( B. Crawfish also ) DISCIPLINE ! GREATNESS is also welcome. Cmon PAT make it happen.

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  • Chazz Michael Michaels

    let’s just say the Miami Heat have… FAILED!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Pile on the hate now.

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