Friday, November 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm  |  18 responses

No End in Sight

Joe Dumars created a disaster in Detroit. Can he fix it?

by Shlomo Sprung / @SprungonSports

It seems like way more than two years since the Detroit Pistons lost to the Orlando Magic in the second round of the 2008 Eastern Conference playoffs. It was the end of the team’s glory days that included the 2004 NBA title. Since that playoff defeat over two years ago, the team made a series of moves that led to the unfortunate situation they’re in today. At 0-5 with few promising players on their roster for the future, Detroit may be in the worst shape among all 30 NBA teams.

The Pistons don’t play very much defense and fade away late in games. In their five losses, they’ve been outscored in the second half by a combined 59 points, including the incredibly pathetic 34-9 fourth quarter against Chicago last Saturday. The terrible position the team is in right now can be traced back to a few November days that set back this franchise at least three years.

Almost two years ago to the day, on November 3, 2008, legendary Pistons GM Joe Dumars shook up the team by trading Chauncey Billups and two others to Denver for Allen Iverson. To put into perspective how disastrous that move was, let’s see where these players are now: Billups is doing his thing in his home state of Colorado and the Nuggets are still successful. The Answer now plays pro ball in Turkey after failed stints in Memphis and Philly. Not one of Dumars’ finest moments.Detroit Pistons

To top that off he gave Rip Hamilton a four-year contract extension and Rip just hasn’t been the same since. After shooting just over 48 percent from the field during the season before his extension, his field goal percentage has gone down to 44.7 percent in ’08-09, 40.9 percent in ’09-10 and just 38.2 percent in three games so far this season. He shot just 29 percent from three last season, down from 44 percent the year before his extension. His turnovers per game are up, his rebounds per game are down and Hamilton missed nearly 32 percent of the team’s regular season games (53 of 169) since the beginning of the ’08-09 season. They’ll be paying the former star (and current overpaid cap killer) $12.65 million per season through the ’12-13 season.

In fact, Dumars has done such a mediocre and suspect job since that 2008 postseason defeat that his job safety should really be put into question. In short, Detroit needs to start from scratch and blow up this roster because what they’ve been trying to do has failed miserably with a cast of over-the-hill, overpaid veterans and a few youngsters with potential.

Detroit was swept in the first round of the 2009 playoffs and had the cap space to patiently wait for the summer of 2010. To be somewhat fair, Tayshaun Prince and Hamilton still seemed like they had some prime years left in their career and Dumars made some pretty decent picks in Gonzaga F Austin Daye, swingman DaJuan Summers and Swedish G Jonas Jerebko, who had promise before a gruesome leg injury during the preseason stunted his growth. Dumars wanted to add some fresh life to the franchise to go along with his two faded stars, so he decided to throw all his cap money on two complimentary, bench players in Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva with contracts totaling $90 million. “Happy to add both of these young guys,” Dumars said in 2009 after he signed both players. “We think both guys are just reaching their prime.”

Gordon did come off one of the more memorable playoff performances in recent memory. Do you remember that first round series with the then-defending champion Celtics that went the full seven games and Gordon looked unstoppable? Dumars certainly did, because he gave him an outlandish five year, $55 million deal and then gave five years and $35 million to the other former UConn star and glorified bench player Charlie Villanueva. Which leads us to the situation the Pistons are in now.

Greg Monroe should be a strong piece for this team’s future, but the team is being weighed down by overpaid veterans Dumars is responsible for. Prince’s $11.1 million mercifully comes off the books at the end of this season, but they’re paying Prince, Hamilton, Gordon and Villanueva a combined $42.6 million and thus far this season that costly quartet averages 58.9 points per game to go with 7.1 turnovers, a 50.5 percent field goal percentage and zero team wins. That’s a pretty lousy return of investment for Dumars in a city that sadly knows about lousy returns on investments.

Except for Cleveland and Minnesota, the Pistons may have the worst franchise situation in the league if you look at their salary cap situation and the players they have in place. In Detroit, we know that there are expensive contracts to wait on and a lot of losing in store. Get used to this kind of losing Pistons fans, because Dumars dug your team a large fiscal hole that has no end in sight.

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  • Motown1

    ok, not great or terrible.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Sitting here at work, I saw the headline “no end in sight” and alls I could think of was “I know, right? Will this day EVER end?” But seriously, Detroit looks bad right now. But I always knew Joe Dumars was getting way too much credit as a GM. Even in the ’03 draft when he snatched up Darko and left Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, etc. on the table people were saying “oh, this is a smart move. They don’t need Carmelo with the emergence of Tayshaun” I was thinking WTF are y’all talking about?

  • the Dude

    This team has no leader, which is why a shocking trade is in their near future.

  • Mike

    The Pistons went to the Conference Finals in 08 and lost to the Celtics. Get your facts right before you rip into Detroit.

  • David T. Smith (aka Motor City Smitty)

    Shlomo,

    You may have a strange name, but your article is not. Dumars has dug the Detroit franchise a hole the size of the Grand Canyon. However, let’s not blame him entirely, nor should we count on him completely to fill the void. The front office is in turmoil, ownership issues, etc. Right now it’s a trickle-down-effect that has a hold on the Pistons. Until things change from the top, do not count on change on the court…not this season or next. Rebuilding is not easy, but it is done AS a team by creating a TEAM. When I watch the Pistons, they do not look like a cohesive group or business, top to bottom. I hope with new ownership will come the shake-down this franchise needs to return to glory. Peace.

  • LB

    Damn, the Pistons could have been a DYNASTY if they had drafted Wade, Melo or Bosh instead of Darko. But then again, Larry Brown could have chained any of these guys and totally shattered their confidence like he did to Darko. Maybe Darko would have been a star had he had a chance to develop somewhere else. Who knows? The draft is such a crap shoot. So Dumars can have a mulligan on that one.
    But the moves Dumars have been making the last couple of years have just been indefensible.
    Trading away Chauncey Billups? Signing Rip Hamilton to a $12 million a year contract? Seriously? Rip Hamilton never was, and never will be a franchise player. The dude simply cannot create his own shot, and can only be effective with a top flight point guard feeding him the ball.
    Then there’s the inexplicable signings of Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Both are good players in short spurts. But they are most definitely not worth a combined $90 million. It would have been better off to save the cap space for the now infamous “Decision.” Even though Lebron and Bosh decided to take their talents to South Beach, it would have been better for Detroit to save cap space, let their young guys develop and stockpile lottery picks than hopefully tread water with mediocore talents like Rip Hamilton, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva leading the franchise.

  • tRay

    Uhh last time I checked they lost to Celtics in 08 in the Conference Finals. Other than that good article.

  • Tyler Whitcomb

    Also a biggie was last summer when rumored that Joe dumars turned down a deal that would have landed them Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen for Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, and Rodney Stuckey. If Dumars knew what he was doing, he would have made that trade and not re-signed Ray Allen and for sure that same summer would not have signded Charlie V or Ben Gordon. Think the Pistons would have a franchise player in Rondo with a ton of money to spend. The summer of 09 just completely killed us Pistons fans.

  • Tyler Whitcomb

    Plus think of Joe Dumars top draft choices – Mateen Cleaves, Rodney White, and Darko.

  • http://sportswithkels.com Mr. Ortiz

    In the defense of Joe Dumars with the prices tags of Gordon and Villanueva, Dumars believed, similar to what others in the NBA speculated, that while giving those two players money, the other pieces would fall into place. Unfortunately for Dumars, the other pieces have not fallen risen to the occation. I, for one, still believe that the Pistons will rise to the top in the near future as you will in your writing about sports.

  • kenNYrocks

    Remember when everyone was praising the Iverson-Billups trade? I was always curious why that went down but at the time, everyone said it was a genius move.

  • Hammer

    How the pistons have fallen n such a short period of time. Only 2 May’s ago they were battling the c’s n the conference finals

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    wait, no one mentioned the signing of mcgrady in a guard/swingman heavy team? this is like wolves stockpiling point guards!

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    the 2004 pistons team is one of my fav of all time. no true superstar, just one ridiculously awesome super defensive unit. sigh.

  • andy2.0

    Where’s Captain Hindsight when you need him?

  • http://www.nba.com/lakers stu

    ayo – Jonas Jerebko’s no guard homie..

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    How to fix the Pistons: 1) Hire Magic Johnson to be President of the Pistons, and give him the autonomy to hand pick his own GM. 2) Get the wheels in motion to eventually move the Pistons to Downtown Detroit. 3) After you release T-Mac, plan on retiring Chauncey Billups number to bring the franchise some good karma.

  • http://big11mel@yahoo.com Big Mel

    Sorry Magic never did anything to be named president,he just owned 10 percent of the Lakers,its not liked he built the team. It is funny how this works Joe D gets no credit for building the championship team but gets all the blame 4 the current team,but he was GM for both teams so how does that work.

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