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Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010 at 8:44 am  |  77 responses

Post Up: John Wall Shines

And teaches me how to dougie.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Good news and bad news. First, the negative:

After a full day at the SLAM Dome yesterday, I got home, did a quick interview with a high school baller for the next issue (no sneak peaks here, punks) and told myself I’d get in some quick shuteye before the games got going. Well, you know how that goes. I woke up several hours later, confused, and with a full set of NBA action all wrapped up. Someone get the SLAM overlords to hook this kid up with an alarm clock. It’s a Post Up tax write-off!

But, the positive: While you guys were sleeping the night away, dreaming about hitting that Game 7 half-court buzzer beater and who knows what else, I was up and at it, wearing out the TiVo, analyzing box scores, and watching/re-watching all the highlights to make sure I’d be caught up. No days off at TPU, kids (whatup Anton!). Word to Wale. The things we do for you, I swear…

Alright, I’m well-rested and ready to roll. Let’s get on with it.

Orlando 0, New York 0

Asbestos? That’s what’s hot in the streets? (© Chappelle) OK, it happens. It does? I guess. Just make sure that’s all cleaned up for when John Wall and Co. come to NYC on Friday. It’s gonna be the hottest ticket in town—though Due Date doesn’t make for a terrible second option. Speaking of JW…

Washington 116, Philadelphia 115

A dope battle between two young, up-and-coming Eastern Conference teams. It was close all game, and as time expired in regulation, Cartier Martin (can we get this dude a sweet nickname already?) found an opening and was like, “At this range? With this caliber?“—cooly sinking an Iggy-contested J to tie things up as regulation ended. The John Wall Show—which started around tip-off and ended with the final whistle—continued into extra play, and the rook ended with a ridiculous stat line of 29 points, 13 assists, 9 steals, and, um, 8 turnovers, as the Wiz jumped ahead in OT and held on by a hair. For the Sixers, Lou Williams dropped 30 while Elton Brand went for 21 and 9 and hit some big baskets before fouling out. The man picked right behind Wall, Evan Turner, came off the bench and scored 9—all in the fourth quarter. Philly’s got Indiana at home tonight.

Atlanta 100, Cleveland 88

JJ Hickson did some damage for the Cavs, dropping 31, while Anderson Varejao grabbed 12 boards, but this one was all ATL. Don’t look now, but the Hawks—the squad that didn’t bring in any new players this summer—are 4-0. One playoff collapse doesn’t rid a roster of its talent, you know, and this team is still real solid. Marvin Williams led the way for Atlanta with 22, and Josh Smith contributed across the board with 6 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 5 blocks.

Boston 109, Detroit 86

Rajon Rondo just keeps on dishin’. Last night he had 17 dimes, which amounts to 67 through four games. Incredible. But check Boston’s numbers as a team: 42-81 FGM-A (51.9 percent), 18-18 FTM-A (100 percent, I think), 33 assists, 8 turnovers. With that kind of efficiency, they aren’t losing. To anyone. Shaq sat this one out, but the Pistons’ frontline didn’t step up and make the Celts pay too much. Charlie Villanueva led Detroit with 17 points in the losing effort.

Portland 90, Milwaukee 76

The Trail Blazers did that weird thing they do where they win but you can’t really tell how it happened. Wesley Matthews came off the bench and led them with 18 points, while Brandon Roy scored 17 and LaMarcus Aldridge had 14. Looks like they’ve recovered from what seemed to be a pretty rough loss in Chicago last night. The Bucks came out strong (up 27-21 after one) but struggled offensively—they shot 37.5 percent—and just weren’t able to match Portland’s energy.

Miami 129, Minnesota 97

And these dudes keep on cruising. DWade put in 26, while LeBron scored 20 but distributed 12 dimes. Chris Bosh (13 and 6) still hasn’t gotten going—as if you needed another reason to fear just how good the Heat can be down the road. James Jones keeps loving life in the Mike Miller role, as he went for 17 points and 5 threes. Kevin Love led Minnesota with 20, while Darko Milicic, presumably shook after seeing all of his ’03 Draft friends in one place, blanked out and scored 0 on 0-5 shooting.

L.A. Lakers 124, Memphis 105

Looks like the Lakers are already in mid-season mode. They jumped out to an 11-point lead after a quarter, and never turned back, leading by 29 at one point and rolling smoothly to the W. Pau (21-13-5) was the better Gasol, as Marc (11-6-5) couldn’t keep up with his bro’s array of post-moves and such. Kobe also played well, scoring 23 in only 26 minutes. Rudy Gay went for 30, but it was a bit of a waste—Memphis never really stood a shot. The $45-million man Mike Conley scored 16 and passed out 8 assists, so the jury on the contract is still out, though something tells me Michael Heisley will be guilty until proven innocent for that one.

Performance of the Night: John Wall: 29 points, 13 assists, 9 steals, 2 rebounds
Moment of the Night: This is one of those things that players sometimes do, knowing in the back of their minds, “Man, if I do this, I’ll definitely get The Post Up’s Moment of the Night.” Yes, it’s true: Dougie your way through the pre-game intro, and you’re an early favorite for MOTN honors.

A 12-game full course is on tap for tonight, peeps. And some good ones, too: OKC-LAC, Spurs-Suns, New Orleans-Houston, Milwaukee-Boston, plus more. Set your alarms.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    lol @ the Portland comment!
    My Lakers are rolling. Pau is beasting and Kobe is relaxing. Gotta love it!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    lol @ the Portland comment!
    My Heat are rolling. Dwyane is beasting and Bron is relaxing. Gotta love it!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Not really Eboy, the Heat do have 1 loss!!! lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Oh, and I finally got to watch an Atlanta game last night. I didn’t realize Josh Smith carries the ball with EVERY single dribble.

    The Washington game was actually pretty good, but I get the feeling Wall hates playing with Blatche!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’m trying to figure out where Gilbert is going to wind up by the trade deadline.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Who knows if Gil comes back and Wall and Gil play good together …

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    I wanna see a battle between James Jones and letShannonShotFromThree.com at the 3pt Contest this year.

    And John Wall is a beast.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Wall seems to be the real deal and I like his game so far. But 4-5 games into his NBA career and he is already making up dance-routines; is this the first sign of him catching the dreaded LeBronitis BigHeadaitis disease at such a early stage of his career? I sure hope not…

  • Dirtybird

    Adam, I guess since he’s not a starter, Josh Powell doesn’t count as a new player.

  • http://slamonline.com MVPballer

    Just cuz Wall was dancin in the intro doesn’t mean his ego is bloated, yet anyways.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Beasley was having himself a nice game before he smashed his hip into the hardwood. Ouchie
    Cartier Martin, in my humble opinion, does NOT need a nickname. Think about it, Adam…. Cartier…Martin, too cool. (at least cooler than that WWE backward stumble Iguodala was trying to sell as an elbow to the face)
    Portland won that game on D and very nice execution. They shut off penetration and turned the Bucks into jump shooters, bad ones. Not one of the Bucks many scorers could get into a rhythm. Impressive win by the Blazers. Aldridge even mixed it up in the paint!!

  • add

    lucky shot

  • http://google c_cantrell

    nice game by john wall.. real nice.. and also rondo is passin dimes this year likes it aint nothin really impressive..
    now everybody do the john wall dance!!

  • JoeMaMa

    Comic Sans. Yes. With a joke like that, even if you miss you can’t miss.

  • Squirrel7

    That dance is an embarrassment. It looks pathetic. And I agree with LZ, if you don’t have an ego, you don’t have your own dance routine.

  • jahmai

    It’s not his OWN dance routine, teach me how to dougie was playing in the stadium and he knows how to do it, he also did it at the rookie photo shoot. Alot of people do it, so what? he’s a fun-loving game making his NBA game debut at home. His team loved it, the crowd loved it. Stop hating.

  • jahmai

    fun-loving guy* :p

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Lebron Dances-he’s a loser. John Wall dances-he’s Gregory Hines. Thankfully, Lebron hung up his Dancing Soldier shoes.

  • Monstarzz

    Dougie should come with a no-homo attached to it. Ish is qqueeer.

  • Squirrel7

    His team and crowd loved it? True, and they’ve got absolutely f*ck all else to cheer this season, so I guess they shouldn’t be deprived of a little entertainment.

  • riggs

    cartier martin’s nickname is shine

  • t-sizzle

    Roooooooooooondooooooooo, stellar control and poise at the point. knows how to handle the flow and the pace of the game. that’s how a pg should be

  • t-sizzle

    John Wall is a Real good floor general too. So mature despite being a rook. Now I can’t decide Griffin or Wall for ROY anymore!?

  • http://slamonline.com/ Adam Figman

    Riggs, I like it. Thanks for the heads up.

  • kobe24

    Wall is already a better PG than Derrick Rose. Just look at those lines, he can score, play D, and dish, 2 of three which Rose still knows nothing about. What excuses are all the Rose fans going to make now?

    Anyone who says they would take Rose over Wall right now is a liar. plain and simple. A filthy liar.

  • Jagster

    Low Blow Kobe24 on Drose, when he didn’t even play last night or was mentioned.

    Though I do agree with what you said. Lol.

    But let’s see how Walls season pans out.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^Kobe24..
    dude your a f*cking moron ok so jus do us all a huge favor and gtfoh!

  • t-sizzle

    We’ll see how Wall’s season pans out, but that’s definitely a legitimate claim. I bet a lot of people, myself included, would take Wall as the starting pointguard of a team. He has demonstrated leadership, control, defense and court vision thus far in his short career. And of course he’s got blazing quickness (but he knows when to slow it down too)

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Chris Bosh, what a Lady!
    I can’t believe they call them the Big 3, it should be “two and a half men”!
    “… and … JOHN WALL!” Remember that Slam Kentucky cover?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Stupidest comment of the day goes to Kobe24. And I would take Rose over Wall any day of the week. Call me a liar, I’ll bee dat.

  • Ptown

    Rose is playing like an MVP, Wall is playing like the Rookie of the year so let’s keep things in perspective folks. This will be the year of the point guard due to the no handchecking rule and the great speed and athleticism of the new crop of pg’s it makes it impossible to guard them without sending them to the line 10 times a game.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Adam Figman

    Almost missed JoeMaMa’s comment–Ha! “Even if I miss, I can’t miss” might’ve been a better Cartier-Martin-as-Omar reference. Oh well.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    wall has only played in 3 or 4 nba games so far and rose has played in 166 nab games and yal are trying to say he is better than rose?? wtf?? rose has carried his team on his back to the playoffs the last 2 years and has a legit shot at the mvp this year.. do yal think wall has a legit shot at the mvp? no!
    and if yal are going stats your still wrong check this out
    *rose: 27.7ppg…8.7apg….5.0rpg…1.0spg…1.0bpg
    *wall: 23.7ppg…10.3apg…2.7rpg…4.0spg…0.0bpg
    yes walls numbers are impressive but they wont stay this high and also keep in mind the bulls and wizards records

  • hangtime Hec

    The dancing had nothing to do with ego or showing up the other team. It was him just acting his age. You know, like a 20 year old.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    As soon as I saw the headline I knew losers like Kobe24 would be bringing up Rose. Let Wall play a little more and have his states actually mean something by WINNING games. This is their first win of the season. How can you not like Rose because he’s “overrated” and then be a fan of Wall?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    *stats

  • feez22

    maybe im not giving rondo enough credit… but @ this point shouldn’t he be running with the assists title? i mean he is playing with 3 players that at the end of the day will be in the hall of fame and are shooting at ridiculous clips so far… im not surprised. give chris paul or deron williams those kind of teammates and they would be avg what 17apg as well. a dumpoff to garnett, a pass to pierce on the ft line extended and a pass to ray allen deep are all automatic assists at the clip they are shooting. Nonetheless, impressive by rondo.

  • ttcobra

    Not yet, but in two years the best two point guards in the NBA will be former Kentucky Wildcats. Wall and Rondo in that order.

  • The D Train

    @Eboy’s 10:57 comment: E, have you heard of “Tap Out” before? I am not familiar, but apparently it’s some catch-phrase from MMA or Ultimate cock boxing, or something. Regardless, your Gregory Hines comment reminded me of a great idea I had. We have lots of agro dudes rocking these Tap Out shirts up in my corner of the country. It’s supposed to represent pummeling an opponent, I guess. So I suggested that we get a line of the Tap Out shirts, maybe put the phrase in a really aggressive font on the front, but then…and here is the genius…the back would feature this picture of Gregory Hines: http://www.danceheritage.org/images/hines.jpg

  • jahmai

    John Wall has 3 NBA games under his belt, Drose has a ROY award an all-star selection and WILL be a weekly top 10 player on NBA MVP Lists. Yes, Wall has alot of potential but let’s not put him best PG debates just yet.

  • The D Train

    @Eboy’s 10:57 comment: E, have you heard of “Tap Out” before? I am not familiar, but apparently its some catch-phrase from MMA or Ultimate cock boxing, or something. Regardless, your Gregory Hines comment reminded me of a great idea I had. We have lots of agro dudes rocking these Tap Out shirts up in my corner of the country. It’s supposed to represent pummeling an opponent, I guess. So I suggested that we get a line of the Tap Out shirts, maybe put the phrase in a really aggressive font on the front, but then…and here is the genius…the back would feature this picture of Gregory Hines: http://www.danceheritage.org/images/hines.jpg

  • feez22

    @c_cantrell wall a legit MVP candidate? see thats what happens when you listen to your foolish color comentator for bulls games. Let me tell you something about the MVP. if the MVP were decided on at the beginning of the season melo would have won it LAST YR and chris bosh (don’t laugh check his early season 08-09 stats if u can find em) would have been the mvp 2 seasons ago. I won’t consider rose an MVP candidate at all right now bc its the START OF THE SEASON. maybe if he plays lights out midseason i will change my mind. and that goes for every other player that isn’t a)the defending MVP or b)the defending world champion. again, rose aint an mvp candidate now just like melo wasn’t last yr and bosh wasn’t the yr b4 that. & seriously this wall/rose stuff is becoming like the kobe/lebron stuff… saying rose is better than wall NO SHIT rose has been in the league for 2 yrs already and is an all star. Do i doubt that wall can also be ROY/all star? no. wall can do it too. let him grow stop bashing wall bulls fans you are sounding like kobe fans that bash lebron all day…

  • feez22

    u know what? instead of trying to convince bulls fans to stop ragging on rose im just gonna say this… cp3 is better than rondo and rose… so drop it. what would u bulls fans say? cp3 is entering his 6th season while rose is entering his 3rd. what do i say about that? that doesn’t stop bulls fans from bashing wall a rookie and praising rose a 3rd yr guard. so ya… cp3>rose. now that you guys will get all defensive you know know how WALL fans feel about the rose fans bashing wall.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Re. Wall & Rose–
    Not a real fan of either athlete. They have pretty similar styles, but while it’s early I’ll still say this:
    Looking at Wall’s shooting form, it looks like when it’s all said and done, he should develop a more consistent jumper than DRose.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    feez – you interchanged wall and rose so many times that I have no idea what you’re trying to say. All I know for sure is that you’re angry about whatever you’re saying.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Apparently tealish is a tenured NBA coach and can break down the intricacies of perfect shooting form.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The nba has been pretty dull so far this year. Not much excitement besides the Celtics/Heat game. Hope it picks up soon.

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    wall and blatche combine for 14 turnovers. ouch. that just tells you how bad the sixers are!

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Feez, who the hell is bashing on Wall? The kid’s legit, he’s a future star, I LOVE HIS GAME. But he’s not better than Rose. That’s all we wsaid. If you think that’s bashing, you should try being a Rose fan for a day.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Diesel — Doesn’t take being a coach on any level, to realize who has good form and who doesn’t.
    Question: Who has better form: Ray or Rajon?
    I know — tough question for all of us non-NBA coaches, but give it a crack nonetheless.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    tealish, so Wall’s shooting form resembles Ray Allen’s? And Rose’s resembles Rondo’s?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    I just find it funny that you’ve analyzed Wall’s form in 3 games and have already declared that he will most likely be the better long-term shooter. What do you see when you look at Reggie Miller’s form? Craig Hodges had a weird form too. Form isn’t as important as repetition. Whatever your mechanics are, use those same mechanics on every shot. Regardless, its just ridiculus to looka t form 3 game sin and make an assessment based off that. “I notice when Wall passes that his index finger is the last digit to touch the ball. Thus, I have concluded that he will be a betetr passer than Rose in his career.”

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    *look at form 3 games in

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^feez22..
    what the hell are talking about? i never said wall was a legit mvp candidate in fact i pretty basically said that he wasnt moron…n im not f*ckin listening to anybody ok b*tch? everything i say is based on what i see and what i know, not on what anyone else, especially a f*ckin commentator says ok? do u understand? cause u seem pretty confused u f*ckin dumbass.. get the hell outta here

  • feez22

    @Enigmatic please… just because you don’t bash wall doesn’t mean the mass rose fans don’t. Look at other posts. They call wall unpolished as if rose was polished as a rook. They say wall gets a ton of turnovers as if rose didn’t in his 1st yr either. Pretty much hold wall to a standard you never held a rookie derrick rose to. You guys say that wall fans shouldn’t boost wall after 3 games yet you are the same people declaring derrick rose as an MVP candidate after 4 games. ironic isn’t it? Same fans that destroyed wall after his game against orlando but as soon as he has 2 great games afterwards you say its too early to praise? Where was that sentiment when you fans were bashing him after his FIRST GAME? contradiction is what i am pissed off @ with some of you bulls fans. and ya btw im not a wiz fan of any capacity. just want to point out what i am seeing in these posts.

  • Sparker

    um, i’m just REALLY happy that cp3, rose, rondo and wall are all playing so well. i don’t know if this is the best point guard showing eve in week 1 of the season, but it must be up there.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    OK feez, go back and tell me if you EVER find a post by me where I either said anything bad about Wall or that Rose is an MVP candidate. You lump all us “Rose fans” together like we all share a freakin’ brain or something.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^Enigmatic..
    jus ignore him bro hes jus a stupid dumbass

  • jonny

    Feez you are spot on. These guys are just clowns changing their arguments after every game. Also, any Rose fan talking about Wall`s turnovers is delusional. As of right now in his THIRD year Rose is averaging 5 a game. Wall in his rookie yr is averaging less turnovers to go along with more assists. Its funny how no Rose fan has brought up his so-called improved 3pt shooting since the 39pt game when he miraculously went 3 of 7. What is his season average again, barely over .200%, whereas Walls is .500%. But forget about actual stats for a moment and check out efficiency rating and you will see that Wall as a rookie also has a higher efficiency rating than Rose. As do all the other PG`s that anyone with common sense was arguing was better than overhyped Rose at the beginning of the season, such as Rondo, Westbrook, and Paul .

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    F*ck efficiency ratings. I hate all that new-age stats sh*t.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    You can’t take 3 game averages and compare them to 3 year averages you f*ckin idiot Johnny. There are highs and lows during the course of a season that you don’t see in THREE GAMES. Do everyone a favor and don’t post stupidity like that around here.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    yeah no joke jonny boy your a f*ckin idiot

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Hey guys, Rose averaged 34 points per game in his first 2 games. That 34 is higher than Jordan’s, Kobe’s and Lebron’s career averages. So DRose is a better player than all three of those guys. See how stupid you look Jonny?

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @Adam Figman, its called defense, if you werent sleepin you would´ve saw LAldridge had 5 bks and 4 steals and Roy had 5 steals and a blk…they did what they didnt try in Chi town, play defense..and just cause nobody put up 30 points, it doesnt mean YOU DUMB FU(K CANT UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAPPENED!

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Wall’s 50% shooting from 3 might have a little something to do with the fact that he’s 2 for 4. It probably wouldn’t be 50% if he had attempted 14 3′s like Rose has. Wall has ONE less turnover than Rose, both in 3 games. Wall’s more assists might have something to do with the fact that he’s played a lot more minutes than Rose up to this point, and it might not even freakin’ matter because Wall has played in THREE games in his entire career thus far. He could be averaging two assists a game by March for all we know.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    You know Diesel, now that you mention it, Reggie Evans is averaging over 16 rebounds a game! Dude is a better rebounder than Dennis Rodman, Charles Barkley, Ben Wallace and Dwight Howard!

  • http://slamonline.com/ Adam Figman

    @TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon: I’m aware of what defense is, man. I actually re-watched that game after it happened and saw all there was to see. Just saying between the rotating cast of (somewhat random) guys who step up, and the fact that Roy slips under the radar as a star, plus the fact that the team uses defense to win games instead of big plays (or at least last night that was the case), they tend to sneak up on folks. And one player’s strong defensive stats rarely stand out when you’re watching, unless he’s doing some kind of Mutombo-esque finger waving amidst a double-digit block performance. Relax, fam.

  • jonny

    Where are all the whiners who said that if Rose had better teammates he would easily lead the league in assists. Wall plays on a far worse team and is averaging more assists, according to you guys, doesn`t that mean if Wall had Rose`s teammates he would be somewhere around 14-15 a game. @ Diesel your an idiot who doesn`t know how to read. I didn`t compare Wall to Rose`s entire career, I compared both of their stats so far this season. The same high`s and lows of the season you mention are bound to affect Rose just as badly as Wall, and I`m betting that right now Rose is on an all time High. @ Diesel, you are just as dumb because you are comparing players career averages to Roses first two games on the season. Its like saying Brandon Jennings is way better than Rose because he scored 55 in one game and Rose`s career high is only 39. Also for both of you, after Roses first 3 games of his career he averaged 18 ppg, 4.6 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 1.3 steals and 3 turnovers, stats that pale in comparison to what Wall has put up after his first three games. And for @ Enigmatic, so what if Wall only attempted 4 threes, he made half of his attempts so far and one less in total than Rose. Rose needed 14 attempts in order to make a measly 3 3pters, to anyone with a brain knows that means he is a bad 3pt percentage shooter and shouldn`t be taking those kinds of shots. It also shows that Wall knows his game better than Rose by not settling for the 3 and forcing up bad shot attempts. In addition to being a better 3pt shooter percentage wise. Again for @Enigmatic, player efficiency is a very important statistic. You are probably someone who looked at Marburys stat line of 20 and 8 when he proclaimed himself “the best PG in the league”, and believed him. Basic Assist, rebound, points types of stats don`t tell the whole story, and that`s why complex statistical measures such as efficiency ratings have been developed in order to truly assess players performances.

  • Sparker

    @adam, i thought your comment about the blazers was classic slam, and no offense to the blazers. keep up the good work

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Enigmatic
    No, that’s not what I’m saying. You missed the point.
    @Diesel
    I should have included fluidity when I said “form”. Reggie’s stroke wasn’t textbook form, but it was hella fluid. Same setup on every shot. It looked right even when it looked wrong, if you know what I mean.
    And again, I acknowledged it’s early to make an assessment, but I’m making it anyway.
    It’s my opinion (read: opinion) based on what I’ve seen, either from the pros or even in a pickup game — it doesn’t take long to find out who can shoot, and who can’t. It’s probably one of the easiest aspects of basketball to judge, in comparison to other on the court skills.
    Again, it’s just an opinion.
    We can reconvene at this and next season’s end to reevaluate. Don’t worry about it.

  • cb4

    After reading these posts the only definitive conclusion that can be made is that logic is not the strong suit of Derrick Rose fans as they incessantly contradict themselves when looking for ways to support their idol.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Jonny, I NEVER believed Stephon Marbury was the best PG in the league. How dare you. That’s even lower than KG calling Villanueva a cancer patient.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @ tealish – no, I got what your point was. I just couldn’t help but poke fun at the way you brought up Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen’s shooting forms in trying to describe the differences in Wall’s and Rose’s.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Obviously sarcasm is not your strong point Jonny.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    @AdamFigman, youre right I should relax but instead of what you wrote, downplaying their win, maybe those random guys who stepped up like Armon Johnson and Dante Cunningham would be a better storyline.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    At least we can all agree that Roy’s mini-dream shake J (@0:48) was silky smooth:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ3jVDYMlcA

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