The Overblown Kevin Garnett/Charlie Villanueva Situation

Depending on where you stand as an NBA fan — morally, comedy-wise, or perhaps even, apathetically — the KG/CV melodrama dominated the conversation throughout the day yesterday, and threatens to continue doing so.

Garnett flatly denied Villanueva’s allegations, and Charlie, of course, stuck by his story. After that, seemingly everyone else on the planet chimed in with their own opinion on the matter.

Doc Rivers defended his star. Color me shocked.

George Karl, a cancer survivor, expressed disappointment.

Ray Allen thinks people need to be careful about what they say to one another, regardless if they’re in the heat of battle.

Brandon Jennings (who faced off against KG and the C’s last night), claimed what’s said on the court should always stay there.

And finally, I yawned rather loudly.

The next Pistons/Celtics showdown, if you can call it that, is set for December 29th. Mark you calendars!

Here’s to hoping that both sides can come up with more creative ways to insult each other.

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Lz – Cphfinest3

More proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FASClJTnJ4I
http://shinefluid@aol.com CHICAGO SAID IT YUP

EVERYBODY….MAN TO MAN…THIS IS SPORTS..QUIT BEING A BITCH!!
vtrobot

@Lz: But KG’s not taking the sh*t. He’s giving it. It’s the CVs/Zsa Zsas/Boguts who appear weak. This “poser/b*tch” is getting in your face and you’re going to do nothing about it (except maybe safely tweet later)? If what everyone is saying is true, I’m shocked that it’s taken the whole league so long to go at KG and expose him for the punk that he is. Someone should do that soon.
http://shinefluid@aol.com CHICAGO SAID IT YUP

if you dont like something someone said or did to you. you have 2 choices…as a MAN..you let it go and say whatever OR you go confront that man and handle it accordingly. you dont tweet to try to get sympathy. thats so SOFT and lame. you had during the game and after the game to confront this man and let him know how you felt but u back down. CMON SON!! i guess im old skool but if you got something on your chest come see me and GET IT OFF
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Well, as I’ve said many times, he mushed Tim Duncan in the face. He’s also had several shoving matches that I’ve seen when he was younger, which I guess can count as fights.
And BS on the idea that “if he was tough he would retailate without thinking.”
Charles Oakley, Rich Mahorn and Sheed are considering “tough” guys. When can you remember them actually getting into a fight on the court?
Hell, MJ only got into one or two fights and those came early in his career.
http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

I don’t think KG called CV a “cancer patient”, most likely said something like “you look like a cancer patient” Either way he’s wrong for going that route. I certanily don’t believe the story he’s telling now. In the heat of competition a lot of stuff is said, but some things should a) remain on the court and b) should be considered out of bounds. I think KG knows he screwed up by making whatever comment he made – hence his lame attempt to ‘cover it up’. I’d prefer he acknowledge what he said, say I’m sorry to not only CV but all cancer patients and then make a big donation to cancer society. Outside of that, KG is still a competitor and has gone at it with Kobe, Duncan and others. Typically stars don’t go at stars because of respect for each others talents. It only makes sense to me to go after second tier players and get in their heads because it’s likely to work a lot better on a CV than it is an LBJ. On the court take advantage of the vulnerable and that puts more pressure on the stars. So I have no problem with KG or any star having ‘verbal battle’ with second and third tier players.
arjae828

Shocked at all the people defending KG…are yall serious? get off his d*ck. this goes beyond basketball. and Allen P…he mushed Duncan. Is Duncan a tough guy? He tried to punk everybody back in the day? Not So. Cedric Ceballos anyone?…nobody on C.V.’s team acknowledged that they heard K.G.? Nobody on K.G.’s team came out and denied having heard him say it. and he DID NOT want it with Bogut. He threw a cheap elbow at him (trying to bait bogut into getting a T) he got caught, Bogut stepped up and K.G. put his hands up and excepted the shove. He already knew he was getting a T, so why not get his moneys worth? Because he wanted NO SAUCE. K.G. is a punk. he’s real tough on the court, especially when his team’s ahead, but don’t let his antics fool you. “loudest one in the room is the softest one in the room.” and it’s not about fighting. When Zaza stepped up, K.G. stepped down. You don’t gotta throw hands but K.G. always backs up. He don’t do that screaming stuff w/ Shaq. Never did it with C-Webb or Sheed…lost a lot of respect for this site. ya’ll and some sack riding idiots.
chazz michael michaels

the funniest part about this is that CV said he wanted to step into a ring with KG. honestly, that’s your biggest mistake right there, because we are all aware that KG is an insane m*****f*****! he would even destroy shaq in a fight no doubt just because he is that crazy, the only other person i dont see KG losing to is another crazy dude, Ron Artest. lol who agrees?
http://slamonline.com nbk

Do any of you that are defending KG watch Celtic games? The dude is unfiltered. On opening night clear as day, right on camera you can see KG calling Bosh a “f*cking b*tch” repeatedly. Last year or two years ago during the playoffs he was telling a fan in the stands he would “f*ck him up” – even when he is by himself on the court, after a wide open made basket he will run down repeating the phrase “mother f*ckers” Calling Charlie V a cancer patient is right down his ally, this is just teh first time the guy he was directing his filth at felt like fighting him and gave his reason for it.
unrel

i have a question for everyone… who really cares?… KG is one of the best PFs in history.. and i’ve always had the opinion that he’s a mouthy idiot.. just the same as i feel about LbJ and his spoiled acting self but being one of the best talents today.. and kobe.. and whoever.. but i’m a basketball fan.. not a TMZ/Twitter/GTFOH fan.. B.Jennings is right.. leave it on the court..
http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

I like arjae828
Ali

KG talks more than a little shi* on the court, he talks to himself, under his breath, he yells, he slings elbows, he’s an emotional guy. We all know this, nothing new! GP has said things way worse to guys. The media age of 2010 and beyond is getting or has already gotten outta hand. F*** going at in the official route in boxing ring man. Go Anthony Mason on em’ right then and there!
http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

@ chazz…..Udonis Haslem would light his pipe cleaner a*s up.
http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

I’d put my money on Stephen Jackson and JO too.
BE.water

you all sound like b**ches when you say… “oh he shouldnt have said this…”

guess none of yall have bagged with your friends before.
http://slamonline.com Allenp

ACtually, with Bogut, KG crammed on him, Bogut hit him with a little elbow, KG retailiated with a bigger elbow and then Bogut shoved him as KG tried to pander to the refs. Watch the video again. The contact is initiated by Bogut who puts his forearm on KG after the dunk, which Garnett takes issue with and flings his chicken wing at the Aussie. It wasn’t like KG just dunked and started throwing bows.
dma

Let’s pretend they’re not NBA players and think they’re your coworkers. If your coworker said you were a cancer patient in a derogatory manner, you’re telling me you wouldn’t tell your boss or HR?
arjae828

@ BE. it’s one thing to clown with your homies. completely different to diss someone with a disease and belittle cancer, when you know the world will hear.

@ allen p. we have diff interpretations of the vid. I don’t see Bogut initiating anything. K.G. boofed, then put his arms up( pretending to be celebratory but intentionally getting his elbows in Bogut’s Vicinity) then Bogut retaliated. then K.G. acted like he did nothing to deserve getting shoved into the first row.
http://slamonline.com Allenp

DMA
So, are we extending this players compared to real people analogy further?
How does getting traded fit into that model?
Or being forced to work four years at a depressed wage regardless of where you would like to play?
Or having to deal with a supervisor you can berate you using derogatory language, and punish you physically?
I mean, if we’re going to compare players to regular people and regular jobs, let’s go ahead and be real about it and line up all the ways things are different.
http://slamonline.com Allenp

arjae
Watch the video again. KG booms, he turns with his arms outstreched, Bogut comes down on his arms on purpose, KG throws an elbow, Bogut shoves him.
Bogut initiated it, but KG still overreacted and tried to get Bogut in trouble.
Watch the action right after KG dunks on the video they have on this site. You can see Bogut come down on KG after the dunk is over and KG is turning to run up the court.
http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

I’m with Allenp on this one. His points make the most sense, especially the part about what KG really said. It was probably just something like “You’re a cancer!” and could be interpreted different ways by the listener.
vtrobot

@ arjae828: i think a lot of us “sack riders” aren’t saying that KG isn’t a straight-up disrepectful *sshole, he’s just not the fleeing b*tch that many like accuse him of being. Calderon! Calderon! Bayless! Bayless! they’re sooo small and weak! are we really to a point where trash talking has to be PC? let me explain something: IT’S F*CKING TRASH TALKING! THE POINT OF IT IS TO GET SO INTO YOUR OPPONENT’S HEAD THAT IT DISTRACTS THEM FROM HAVING SUCCESS AGAINST YOU. you’re SUPPOSED to say the most over the line sh*t that you can. sometimes that backfires and the dude makes you eat your sh*t-talking, sometimes is works and the dude head-butts you and gets red-carded out of a World Cup finals game. sometimes dudes head home and flex their twitter muscles. there is far more blind KG hate on these boards than there is sack riding. @ Allenp: Thanks for actually watching what happened during that video and posting intelligently.
Heals

Yeesh, this is the sports world we live in nowadays, great… Ticket probably said what Charlie said he did, but meant the PC version that was later released. C’mon it’s hoops stuff happens fast and trash talk is even faster. Oh yeah and all you lemmings talking about how Peeler beat his a$$ please youtube the altercation, last night with Bogut was more intense than his beef with Peeler. If Charlie wanted a fight he had his chance on the court but didn’t, so he tweeted his beef instead. I guess to let the media/public carry out this attack, pretty weak in my opinion.

Before
http://futureprobe.blogspot.com Future Guy

Speaking as someone who’s lost a few beloved friends and family members to cancer, I’d just like to say this to Charlie V:

Man up, Nancy-boy!

Yes, KG is a bully! Yes, he talks crap! So did MJ, Larry Bird, and Gary Payton, but nobody ever cried to the press about it. After game 3 of the ’84 Finals, Larry Bird complained that the Celtics had “played like a bunch of women”, but nobody flew into a self-righteous hissy fit because of it.

All Charlie Villanueva has done is announce to the world that he’s soft. The Kobes and KGs of the league that feast on that kid of weakness are going to eat his lunch night in and night out now. He may be a wonderful human being, but I doubt his playing career will be any more memorable than Loy Vaught’s.
arjae828

@vtrobot…i’m glad you concur, you’re a sack rider. two, trash talk is ruthless. sure LeBron will hear Delonte West jokes until he dies…cancer though? heart disease, aids, cancer…we all know someone who has died from one of the three, or complications and on the day a legend dies from cancer? resonates with too many people, too serious to be written off as trash talk or athletes will be athletes. naah…you can’t get that off. cop out and you know it, but whatever you need to tell yourself.

@allen p…i guess i’ll eat that. Bogut does give him a bit of a forearm, K.G. def escalated the situation with the elbow.

let it be known that I’m no K.G. hater, quite the contrary actually. Think he should be in the discussion with Tim Duncan. Also,def agree that what’s said on the court should stay there. But, I think this crosses the line, even on the court. IMO. If i were court side at a game and heard it I’d be just as offended and disgusted.

in any event…abject, indefensible, douchery…
http://slamonline.com Allenp

I think that if KG said “You look like a cancer patient” he was a dead wrong.
I think even if KG said that, Charlie V is a punk for Tweeting it and talking about fighting.
And I think people who hate KG, and people who like him, are going to see his actions differently no matter what he does..
http://slamonline.com tealish

Some of you all are just too literal.
NO, there’s no way he said “You are cancerous to your team and our league” verbatim.
But that’s his official statement. You don’t think he’d give you what he said word for word, expletive by expletive, do you?
We don’t know what was said, but perhaps this:
“YOU A M*THERF*CKING CANCER, BOY!”
^CV takes it as “Cancer Boy” = Cancer Patient, while KG means it just as his statement reads — that CV sucks and is a cancer to his team.
http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

@ Chazz – James Johnson would whoop him too.
http://slamonline.com JL

wow I don’t think what KG did was right, but overblown this really is. KG needs to man up and apologize and not give that corporate BS. It’s just like Lebron’s “decision”. Say you would have done it differently and move on. Instead this is like a joke cuz he won’t man up. Come on KG.
chazz michael michaels

in the end only KG, CV, and God know the truth…
tRay

First off they’re both punks cuz KG should have owned up to his comment and CV is a punk for putting it on tweeter. CV should have confronted KG like a damn man.
http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

“Excuse me sir, I wish to inform you of the fact that our battalion will physically dominate your forces and that we will do so in an unorthodox fashion. I shall repeat such sentiment until you are irritated by my presence.”
CONEY ISLANDER

ARE WE PAST THE POINT OF EYESIGHT IN AMERICA. LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE, CHARLIE VILLENUEVA DOES IN FACT LOOK LIKE A CANCER PATIENT. THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE “PUSSIFICATION” OF AMERICA. HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER CALLED A FRIEND A RETARD IN JEST? I HAVE. DOES THAT MEAN I TAKE DISABILITIES LESS SERIOUSLY? NO! BUT IN THAT MOMENT THE STATEMENTS CONTEXT IS UNDERSTOOD. CV NEEDS TO MAN UP AND FIND OTHER MEANS OF RETRIBUTION BESIDES SNITCHING ON TWITTER!
capostat

Uh, no. I don’t buy that mix-up of “cancer, boy” and “cancer boy”. If anything, you’ve described some kind of freudian slip. Let’s not pretend it was co-incidence that CV and cancer find themselves associated with one another. The word “cancer” just came out of the blue? “You a cancer” no matter how you slice it, was a derogatory remark to CV. KG new what he was hinting at, with the image of CV. Even if he didn’t actually say the diplomatic version of his explanation, he meant “Cancer-looking” boy, or whatever…
capostat

*knew
BRAVO

I SUFFER THE SAME THING AS CHARLIE V! IF SOMEONE WAS TO EVER SAY THAT TO ME THEY WOULD B HISTORY. SO DONT BLAME CHARLIE FOR HIS ACTIONS THE NEXT TIME THEY PLAY. KG MIGHT B IN THE HOSPITAL
http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

CAPSLOCK MAKES MY POINTS MORE IMPORTANT! LOOOUD NOISES!!!
vtrobot

@ arjae828: i concurred? which players do you enjoy watching? can i imply that you want to enter into some homosexual relationship with them? you kids on these boards are amusing. what grade are you in this year? whatever i need to tell myself? you think i need to tell myself things about what kevin garnett said to charlie v.? i don’t give a f*ck about that and i’m shocked at how much so many of you care this deeply about what one NBA player said to another during a game. i enjoy watching KG play dominating basketball. that’s it. i don’t give a f*ck if he is nice dude. i don’t care if he holds doors open for old ladies. i don’t care if he goes to church. if that equals sack rider, i guess that’s me. peace.
IAMORANGE4EVER

@barnabusb: I know what condition Charlie has, and never did I think he actually has cancer…smh. I’m just sayin’ he’s too sensitive about the way he looks is all, and he needs to man up, and shut up instead of stirring the pot and making a bigger issue about this than it had to be. If it bothered him so much, why not get in KG’s grill, and get a tech, and get his team fired up. Instead he does nothing but tweet about wanting to get in a ring with KG. It’s ironic, Charlie’s own actions made him look worse than anything KG allegedly said about the way he looks.
TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

KG is a vagina, some real tough guy should punk him like a b1tch, that wouls be priceless
CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT

THIS WHOLE THING NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. THIS IS DUMB.
http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE YELLING ABOUT
vtrobot

PLEASE HATE ALL CAPS MORE THAN THEY HATE KG. IT’S NOT THAT ANNOYING TO READ ALL CAPS. FOR PEOPLE WHO LUV TO B*TCH IT MIGHT BE. THERE R A LOT OF THEM HERE.
vtrobot

“PEOPLE” might more sense there instead of “PLEASE”. sorry. i’m an *sshole. i’ll go now.
tRay

^^ME EITHER
Rich

Of course it’s been blown out of proportion. It’s highly probable that Villanueva wasn’t overtly offended by the remark, but wanted to thrown KG under the bus for being a complete prick with an arsenal of poor taste one-liners. That said, KG has made himself look like even more of a prick with his ‘miscommunication’ story. “Hey, Charlie! It occurs to me that you’re a cancerous influence on both your team and, moreover, the league as a whole!”
Man up and apologize for making a poor taste remark, KG.
tRay

Tweeter is for pu**ies
Sam

Yes, I’m pretty sure Allen used to have a twitter, and GARNETT HAD ONE TOO. AND JENNINGS STILL HAD ONE.
http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

LOL @ Anton’s 3:52 comment
tRay

What ever happened to people talking it out in person than pot shots on twitter

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