Friday, December 10th, 2010 at 2:55 pm  |  85 responses

Kobe Bryant Isn’t Ready to Pass the Torch to Anyone

Apologies to DRose and the rest of the L’s young stars, but they’ll have to rip it from Kobe’s cold, dead hands. From the Chicago Tribune: “When the Lakers beat the Bulls in Los Angeles last month, Kobe Bryant had a private conversation with Derrick Rose afterward. Asked if that conversation might have any symbolic passing of the torch undertones to it, Bryant flashed his legendary competitiveness. ‘Oh, sure, but I ain’t passing (expletive),’ Bryant said. Asked if Rose has to come take the torch from Bryant, the Lakers’ superstar smiled. ‘He can certainly try,’ Bryant said. Otherwise, Bryant lauded Rose’s development and noted his developing killer instinct: “I just told him to stay healthy and continue the job he’s doing,’ Bryant said of their November postgame talk. ‘I don’t think you can develop (a killer instinct). You either have it or you don’t. He’s had it since he was in high school. That quality separates players I think. With players of equal ability, it’s about the engine you have inside. It certainly gives him an edge.’”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The young cats just about got it from you, Bean…stop hating on the future! LOL!

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Weird. I just read that on chicagobreakingsports.com and click back to Slam and here it is again…anyways, what would you expect Bryant to say? “Damn, I love that kid Rose. You know what? I’ma just retire right now and let that young man take over. Matter of fact, here Pooh, you can have my rings and MVP trophy too.” Come on now, KB is a competitor. Of course he’s gonna say he’s not ready to pass the torch to anyone.

  • 85Live

    Gotta love the Mamba…but he’s saying what he’s supposed to say! He still the Man and if any player feels some type of way about it, they gotta dethrone the man.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Yea, he might as well drop a bomb and say he’ll pass the torch to Kwame Brown and see how the media blow up headlines.

  • WangChung

    Translation: “Game recognize game. DRose is the future.”

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ha the torch has already been ripped outta his hands by lebron!

  • http://www.twitter.com/clearheatvision Raj

    LOL @ NiQ hahahaahahaha

  • http://Slamonline.com Hossy

    @ c cantrell.. The only torch lebron has is the one used to burn all his cavs jerseys

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    You know… Wade, Lebron, Durant, Griffin, Howard, Paul, Deron… yeah, seven guys that Kobe would be better off passing the torch too. I’ve been sticking up for DRose, but this is sort of over the top.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    When Rose asked LeBron for some words of wisdom, James’s response confused and disappointed him: “Don’t even try, have you seen my biceps? +24 efficiency rating, 27-7-7, 3.7 turnovers just cause I feel like it. See this headband? If I take it off, I run 96 miles an hour, look it up. LeBron. Talents. Wear shades during the game. My facial hair is tremendous.”

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^too funny lol

  • Jer dawg

    Yeah KB ain’t passing ish lol nor should he

  • http://google c_cantrell

    too funny man lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    LMAO @ Anton

  • PlanetAsia14

    Kobe’s the man, that is all.


    Thank you Anton, Lebron new nick name is Mister Efficiency, no more KingJames. We’ll let the losers he left behing keep that name.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    Anton for the win.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Is “torch” a euphemism for naked white girl?

  • Jer dawg

    It’s all about the fire within. LA has supremacy over the Chi. You get one life, one legacy. Vets hated on young guns from competitive standpoint. Nothing personal. Jordan wouldn’t give Bryant s***, either. Kobe trying to take “Goat” title. Go get it!

  • ClydeSays

    As much as I hate the Lakers, you’ve got to give Kobe credit. He is the best closer in the League. Who else can take a double-teamed, off-balance fall away and have a prayer of it going in? Only Kobe.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Human Torch was Denied a Bank Loan

  • http://bulls.com airs

    as much as i love D.rose’s game, he ain’t nowhere near kobe or lebron

  • Fat Lever

    “‘I ain’t passing (expletive),’ Bryant said.” Well what else is new?

  • Feez22

    Drose will never have the torch anyways… I’d rather pass the torch to Chris Paul or deron… rose scores a lot but on horrible efficiency and isnt showing me much defensively to say he should be passed the torch… IMO rose is a bit overrated. He’s a good player but… For a guy that has that kind of usage rate I’d expect them to be more efficient shooting wise. W/E I can feel the rose lovers unloading the chamber on their keyboard trying to tell me otherwise.

  • Shem

    Torch is still Kobe’s to give. KD is coming close and until LeBron wins a title it’s Kobe’s.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    that’s insinuating that the best players in the league must always have a ring. Meaning Tony Parker > every point guard in the league except Derek Fisher. That logic is broken

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Cannot believe people still wanna put “Rose” and “overrated” in the same sentence.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    ^It’s all relative. Dude has exploded this year, far more than I gave him credit for. I underrated him.
    But if people put him in the discussion among the league’s elite (read: ELITE), then yeah, he’s overrated.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    My take on it is this – he is playing at an elite level right now, and if he continues at this pace throughout the rest of the season, and ups his game in the postseason, then he truly is one of the NBA’s elite. But if not then at worst he is right below those guys (Kobe, Wade, James, Dwight, D. Will, Durant, CP3 etc.), not in terms of career accomplishments of course but in terms of how they’re playing.

  • Jackie Moon

    Anton is much more likeable this year, I can’t quite put my finger on why …

  • jay rose

    Wow can’t believe all this hate on my boy drose. Well for all you haters keep on hating its gonna be more funny when drose takes over the league as soon as Kobe is done

  • Shem

    @NBK: True but you gotta be the leader on a team. If your the best player in the league you have to have the best team in the league. If your teammates aren’t good enough then that’s your problem but I think Cleveland’s team was good enough last year.

  • The Philosopher

    I do not have any issues with Kobe Bryant. I take issue to people trying to argue that he is as good or better than Michael Jordan, which he is not, of course.
    Now, as far as him passing “the torch”, he definitely has “the torch”, which was passed down to him from Michael. That, I think, is not debatable.
    I am particularly enamored with this season’s play from Bryant. Prepared. Under more control than at any point in his career. Intense. He is truly playing against the careers of the greats in his mind. That is admirable in my opinion, and I take my hat off to him for that. Now, future careers are going to be measured against Kobe’s career.
    So, I hope he will not pass any “torch”. Hold onto it until you die.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Shoutout to The Philosopher.

  • The Philosopher

    ^^Shout out to the Mighty Enigmatic.
    How are you doing tonight my brother?

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com just bcuz

    its a reason kobe sought d.rose out. i mean everybody is bias and have emotional pulls, but as a basketball fan for a long time, d.rose is the truth. ppl may want to fight against it but eventually he will win a MVP and win a title

  • http://bulls.com Harry Twatter

    Feez22 you sound like John Hollinger…… very dumb!!!!

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Yawn. Same thing as john wall the other day. Kobe tells him good stuff, keep working. Booooorrriiiiinngg

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Philo – I’m feeling damn good. It’s Friday! If we beat the Lakers tonight I’ll feel REALLY good.

  • http://google c_cantrell


  • http://google c_cantrell

    anyone watching the lakers game tonight?

  • The Philosopher

    I know that’s right!
    I’m about to go party out of control in a couple hours myself.
    Much action tonight.

  • The Philosopher


  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I’ma watch it when I get home, which’ll be around 10 PM eastern time (6 PM local time). Thank goodness for DVR! Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah have never beaten the Lakers. Only one player remains from on the Bulls from the last time they beat the Lakers (Loul Deng). That’s crazy.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    hahhahaha…lmfao to what Fat Lever said

  • http://Slamonline.com Hossy

    We all know who Kobe really wants to pass the torch to… Smush parker

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  • http://dsajfklf.com Jukai

    Anton and Fat Lever for the friggin win!

  • Miamijoker

    D Wade deserves the torch more than rose does

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    so your saying cleveland last season, largely the same team without LeBron this season, that will likely not even make the playoffs, was good enough to win a title? sure because so many teams in history have won the championship with only one great player.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Fat Lever’s comment just floored me. Hilarious.

  • dfortruth

    Well said Kobe. DRose is the only other player that I see having the same killer instinct.

  • Blackphantom

    dang, Philo that was some well put stuff you put about Kobe

  • rob

    damnnnn. well tht “torch” was jus stole from u ninjaaa. derrick rose beastin. bulls win. flakers lose

  • JTaylor21

    Damn, another 36/10 gm from Amare, that his 7th straight 30/10 gm. Dude is a Top-3 MVP candidate this season and anyone who disagrees better give some legitimate reasons as to why not.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    ^ STAT!

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    In my opinion, it’s Stat, Dirk, and Deron neck in neck for MVP, and I honestly can’t decide who deserves it more

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    I can’t wait for a time when young players are asking Kevin Love and Michael Beasley for advice!!!
    Young player: What advice can you give me?
    B-EZ: Be excellent to each other!
    Kevin Love: And party on, dude!!!

  • Justin

    Philosopher, the only thing I’ll disagree with is Michael passing the torch to Kobe. Michael retired with torch in hand. (Washington years don’t count as far as this topic goes)

  • CRUS-T jalepino included

    @Tarzan boy : i dropped an exciting crap today, it was some freaky ish man. Wanna peep ? Give me ur e-mail. The Mambster will just end up getting the torch ripped out with his twisted wee fingers attatched but D Rose will have to battle Bron & Wade for it over the next 5-6 years anyways. Justin posted truth btw.

  • CRUS-T jalepino included

    @Tarzan boy : I was gonna call it Turtle Head but ended up calling it the Black Mamba , then i flushed it down the toilet with pride

  • KB8toSG8


    He doesn’t know defense……maybe that’s a bad reason though :P

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kobe is not passing any torch until he retires seven seasons from now. So if Lebron or Durant want it go get it. Thats what Kobe did.
    Stop acting like MJ did everything right, Homerilospher. MJ had plenty of bad defensive nights and bad shooting nights, but the only thing that matters in RINGS and NUMBERS-no matter how you get them. Also if real NBA greats and NBA anaylst agree Kobe is just as good as MJ. I take there word for it. I can’t wait until Kobe gets SEVEN rings. BOOK IT!!

  • Justin

    Once again, The Seed comes in with more ridiculous statements. Name one NBA analyst or NBA great that says Kobe is just as good as Michael. Name one! And to say MJ had “plenty” of bad defensive nights is ridiculous. Sure the occasional game someone would get his points but WAY more often than not he would shut his man down. If you’re talking numbers being one of the only things that matter, then your boy loses there too. Plenty of bad shooting nights huh? When you have a career 50% shooting percentage as a guard, you’re doing pretty well. As for the rings, Kobe was graced with better teams to play on much earlier in his career than MJ was, and he also had the benefit of being able to dump the ball into an in his prime Shaquille O’Neal. I’m not saying Kobe wasn’t an integral part of those teams because he was obviously but it sure helped having that option. Now he gets Pau Gasol. Kobe does not get those teams to the Finals, let alone win them, if he has to rely on a Luc Longley in the post instead of a player like Pau

  • slamfan4life

    Drose shittin on em mayne!

  • The Philosopher

    The Seed:
    “Homerlosopher” is classic! lol.
    Now, a man who is as astute as yourself would AND should know that a player’s career has a lot to do with circumstance, luck, and other important factors that can be hard for some to imagine.
    Anyways, of course Jordan did not do everything right. If he did, this exchange would hardly exist between us, you know?
    And, as far as professional analysts saying that Kobe is just as good as Michael Jordan…
    Mark Jackson has said that Dirk Nowitzki is better than Larry Bird. Do you believe that hyperbolic statement?

  • slamfan4life


    Amar’e also had 11 T.O….way too many for a PF

    Rose is ahead of him in the MVP race, shittin on them lakers

  • http://google c_cantrell

    man stat is killin it this year! turning the knicks into a very good team like no one honestly thought he would do

  • http://google c_cantrell

    anybody else enjoy that *ss beatin the bulls give the lakers lastnite? haha great sh*t

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    @The Seed: Not that I entirely disagree with your assessment, but I’d also like to hear the NBA analysts who ‘agree’ that Kobe and Jordan are on par.
    @Philo: Mark Jackson said Dirk Nowitzki might be as good as Larry Bird once it is all said and done. It was a dumb statement, but don’t misquote the dude.

  • Fat Lever

    That Fat Lever comment earlier wasn’t me, the REAL Fat Lever. Sorry, as funny as it was, it was someone else. But that’s cool that Slam still hasn’t fixed the issue with other people’s email information randomly showing up.

  • Hops6

    he’s passing it to Pau without even realising it

  • KrazyK

    @ The Philosopher

    BigBlackRod is that you? BAW alum?

  • The Philosopher

    Yeah, my bad.
    Same sh1t, in my opinion.
    Call me whatever…

  • bubblecat

    Derrick Rose and a bunch of other young players have already passed Kobe as more valuable players.

  • Justin

    ^^^ I want some of what you’re smoking

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/32JSE Yesse

    I’m pretty sure there would be other people before Derrick on the line waiting to have that torch.

  • manu

    kobe doesnt even have the torch lmfao he never did

  • manu

    kobe has the torch of whiniest most overrated piece of garbage who cant finish in the playoffs

  • bertboy

    Kobe isn’t used to passing things, like a basketball…

  • mike smith

    you idiots…

  • OvaChicken

    That’s why he’l get it ripped out of his hurting little fingers.

  • tori

    why do peole think jordan is so great. like come on did you see his competition he had. no one could gaurd him, the best players on opposing teams didnt even gaurd him. thats why he was so good. he even said it he wish he could have played against more competitive players. if he played in this era of basketball he would be another good basketball player. get over it he is not on top anymore kobe is. and in 2 or 3 seasons someone else will be on top.

  • tori

    Every player has terrible nights. Jordan was great he was unstoppable, the best until Kobe came along. You can hate this dude all you want but he is the greatest. MJ said it himself. You can go look it up if you dont beleive me. He was the #16 pick for charlotte hornets, didnt have a big name and now he is THE BLACK MAMBA. You can call him whatever you want but his work ethic and his killer instinct you cant deny. He continues to add to his game, and when its all said and done he will be #1 or #2 on the all time greatest, and wont be knocked down. This is coming from a HUGE Celtic fan.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    number 13 pick idiot