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Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  144 responses

Post Up: There Will Be Blood

And no one Russ should have all that power.

by Anton Kudriavtsev/@TheDiesel

I know what you’re thinking. “How come Anton’s here off the bench, where’s the starter?!” Adam’s out sick so I was taken off the DNP (Did Not Post) list to take over for a weekday appearance. Get well soon, Adam! I was busy last night but got texts throughout various games on my cellular device (oh you fancy huh?) and was thinking I did not envy the guy that has to re-cap all the action. Several hours later I was that guy. So you’ll have to excuse me if I keep it brief, add some extra apostrophes in Am’ar’e’’’’, and claim that Brook Lopez dropped 52 points and not 25. Speaking of which, who do you think will have the first 50-point game of the season? My money’s on Monta Ellis – the best scorer living or dead hands down, huh? Less talk, more games right now huh?

Wizards 107, Raptors 127

The Raptors did their best Suns impression as they drowned the Wizards, led by DeMar DeRozan’s 20 points. The rest of the squad was hotter than Spoelstra’s bench seat right now, shooting 54% from distance and 58% overall. I haven’t exactly done stringent research on this, but I believe the last time Toronto scored over 120 points the fans were in rabid discussion about who would be Batman and Robin in the Vince/T-Mac chronicles. Human stick bug JaVale McGee contributed 21 for the Wizz in what Flip Saunders called “embarrassing effort” for the team as a whole. Is Flip the worst coach in the league with an overall positive reputation? Against Miami the other night I recall him running the same play (unsuccessfully) close to five consecutive times. John Wall had 19 points off the bench. Would someone enlighten me why Wall came off the bench?

Grizzlies 109, Hawks 112

The Hawks held off a rally by the Grizzlies to win their 4th straight game. Al Horford finished with 20 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists while Mike Conley scored 22 and dished 9 for the Grizz. Very few will listen, but I keep saying that Conley is slowly (very slowly) starting to earn his $40 M contract, after getting his clutch on against the Lakers the other night. Quotes you wouldn’t expect to hear in the 2010 NBA season: “Man, we didn’t get stops in time to stop Mike Bibby” – Zachory Randolph (19 points, 19 boards).

Thunder 123, Nets 120

Russell Westbrook

Texts I would never expect: “You have to watch that Nets game!” While Durant was out with a sprained ankle, who do you think stepped up for the Thunder? My heart said Nenad Krstic but my head said Westbrook. Russ drove his way to 38 points and 15 assists in a triple overtime thriller victory over New Jersey. Jeff Green hit some clutch shots of his own en route to a 37-point night. Wait, did I just see Joe Smith on the Nets’ bench? I expect to see him in the Guiness Book of World Records for most teams played for…ever. Anthony Morrow tied the game up with a bit of a 3-point heave, sending it to OT. Some free throws and seemingly clutch shooting from Jordan Farmar (career-high 28 points, 9 assists) later, double OT wasn’t enough. In triple overtime, Russ hit 5 of his last 7 shots in the last 5 minutes of the game, icing it with a three-point play. Your move, Rose.

Pistons 72, Heat 97

The calm before the storm was in the form of a Pistons beating on behalf of the Heat. Walking foul Greg Monroe managed 15 points and 8 rebounds while Bosh Spice had a well-rounded 16 points, 7 boards, and 4 assists. Of course the story of the night is not this game, but a certain match-up the Heat will be up against tonight. More on that below.

Blazers 95, Celtics 99

Paul Pierce led his Celtics with 28 points but it was Ray Allen’s 3-pointer which saved Boston from a late-game rally by the Blazers. Underrated 4th quarter performer Andre Miller netted 20 points, 6 assists, and 3 rebounds while orchestrating the rally with his excellent decision making skills and even better back-to-the-basket game. Ray Ray missed his first five three-point attempts before succumbing to memory loss and trying for one more, hitting the game-winning basket. I just wanted to say what a joy it is watching Shaqtus in his 2-year farewell tour. I realize Doc has no choice with Perkins out, but Doc is nonetheless doing a terrific job in using Shaq to his strengths and minimizing his weaknesses (or hiding them in team defense). If he keeps this up, Boston may be the one franchise that Diesel doesn’t burn bridges with. Also, get well soon Delonte.

Magic 107, Chicago 78

After being in the league’s top rebounders for this young season, Noah (16 points, 4 assists) was held to none as his Bulls got decimated against the Magic. While Boozer’s under-whelming (5 points) debut was the main story, Jameer Nelson had a solid game for Orlando with 24 points, 4 rebounds, and 9 assists. By the way – “Orlando” is a  spelling error in Word, so ironically the Magic don’t exist in top document programs.

Courtesy of Doc Funk Blog

Bobcats 73, Hornets 89

The Hornets leaned on David West (22 points) and some key contributions from the bench to beat the Bobcats. Gerald Wallace had 18 points and 5 rebounds while Chris Paul opted for a Rondo-like box score of 9 points, 5 rebounds, and 14 assists. Anything for the win, CP3.

Lakers 99, Rockets 109

The Rockets continue to climb out of their early-season hole as they beat the Lakers, making it 4 straight losses for LA. I now see why Kobe has no problem with the Heat – they take the media pressure off his own team, good and bad. On this night it was mostly bad for the defending champs, besides Lamar Odom’s 25 points and 11 rebounds. Bryant (27 points) hit a pair of three throws before Battier broke the camel’s back with a jumper. Shane decided to try what this whole clutch thing was about, scoring 11 of his 17 points in the last 3 minutes of the game. Basically, Battier was today’s Post Up – brief but effective. So are folks in LA worried? I’ll go out on a limp and say that Phil Jackson is about as worried as he is about his ranking in the top coaches debate. Kobe had a more venomous response: “How do you know how good we think we are? We’re fine. Are we going to win a three-peat today? Probably not, but the (expletive) is not played today.”

Wolves 86, Mavs 100

Tyson Chanlder is stunting like his daddy, if his daddy was good at rebounding. Chanlder had 9 points and 18 big rebounds (14 in the 3rd quarter alone) as his Mavericks ran over the Wolves. Full-time glass cleaner Kevin Love had 12 points and 15 rebounds in the loss.

Bucks 94, Nuggets 105

It seems like every time I cover a Bucks game it’s the same story – lack of offensive firepower and cohesion, and that broken record continued as Milwaukee fell to the Nuggets. Nene held his squad down with 24 points and 9 rebounds since Carmelo was ejected in the 3rd quarter. John Salmons scored 21 and Maggette started to get back on his shooting touch with 17 points on 5-of-10 shooting.

Pacers 88, Jazz 110

There is nothing Deron Williams will not do to help the Jazz win. Key shots, with varying degrees of difficulty? Check. Same play, but finding teammates for excellent shots? Check. Turning a traditionally pick-and-roll deficient player into an All Star? Working on it. Williams had 24 points and 16 assists to help Utah over the Pacers. The Jazz got out to an early lead and uncharacteristically sustained it for most of the game. Roy Hibbert finished with 15 points and 5 rebounds for Indiana.

Spurs 85, Clippers 90

It only takes one incredible rookie to show that the best team (record-wise) has some pretty dunk-able deficiencies. Clippers and their terrible record beat the best-record Spurs, spurred (terrible pun sponsored by 3:00 AM posts) by Blake Griffin’s 31 points and 1 rebounds. Richard Jefferson led the Spurs with 17 points. Are we even talking about Rookie of the Year contenders? Blakezilla will see you at the finish line.

Overtime (sponsored by Russell Westbrook)

“Check My $tats” of the night: Russell Westbrook – 38 points, 15 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals, one rising star.

Runner-up: Blake Griffin – 31 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assits, 2 steals, 1 block.

Separated at birth of the day: Mike Bibby and Mini Me.

Of course the biggest story today is the return of Zydrunas Ilgauskas (and LeBron James) to Cleveland. Beat writers are exploding with anticipation, kids are being evacuated to nuclear shelters, and Craig Seger has equated the situation to his own failed marriage in the past. First of all, why is the TNT online streaming of the game sponsored by Bacardi? Why not go ahead and sponsor a quit smoking support group by Marlboro while you’re at it. I’ve talked to a lot of Akronites and Clevelanders and all signs point to a messy evening. I’m not saying it will get out of hand, I’m just saying if you plan to attend the game you should probably wear full body armor. Though Delonte won’t even be in the building, RealCavsFans.com has urged attendees to print their own Delonte face mask. There have been ample stories of fans organizing certain rated-R chants and now it seems as though the front office is having fun by allegedly using Comic Sans on the scoreboard. An ESPN poll has America supporing the Cavs by a 57% – to 24% margin. So what do you think will happen tonight? The loudest display of negativity towards a former hero? Will Daniel Gibson score 50? Will the constant boo-ing and negative signs cause LeBron to spontaneously combust into a cloud of chalk? Will James come begging for his job back, and will Dan Gilbert sign him for the mid-level exception? Will Nenad Krstic deliver a chair shot to Ilgauskas to take over the “villain” role? Will Stone Cold Steve Austin stunner all the players and drink beer on the scorer’s table? Whatever happens, LeBron – prepare to be humbled.

I’m not sure if the embed Gods have allowed the video to be seen, but you should click here regardless to get yourself ready for tonight’s game.


I’m out like sanity tonight.

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  • Jahmai

    The last time Wall came back from an injury, he came of the bench too, so I guess it’s just a precautionary thing. If it isn’t, I don’t know what the hell is wrong with the Wiz. Blake was amazing once again, he had some spectacular dunks, and he tried that Mozgov dunk over Splitter, this man is fearless. I’m also very impressed by his rebounding, soft hands and ball handling skills, he’s already a better passer than durant. Speaking about Fearless, what about Russ, this guy has carried the Thunder to 3 road wins when KD is out. Against Boston, Milwaukee and now the NETS. Who’d thought the 2008 Rookie race could en up being the MVP race. (Rose-Westbrook) mix in a little Dwight and we’ve got the Top 3 in my opinion. (although Rose didn’t play well last night.)

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Jordan Farmar > Devin Harris. Just sayin’.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Amar’e Stoudemire should get consideration for MVP! POW!

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    Such a weird night: 4th straight loss for LA, Noah with 0 board and Clippers beating the Spurs, NBA where amazing happen.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Co-sign Anthony. Where is Eboy to make some sarcastic proclamation about the Lakers’ not making the playoffs or some such?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    This is almost the perfect storm of great basketball stories from last night. The Lakers keep sucking….Russell Westbrook keeps showing that’s he the most important player in OKC….The Carlos Boozer era in Chicago begins..HAHAHAHAHAH, what a fu*king joke. What else? I think that covers it. Cleveland, we’re coming bi*ches, get your twats clean.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    KulchaKris….I only follow the ignorance of the rest of the commenting community.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Oh, and as a Wizards fan, I think giving up 72 points in a half is grounds for firing your coach. I am still perplexed as to how Flip’s reputation remains unblemished, despite multiple mediocre coaching stints.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Anton is my cup of coffee.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    And right on cue!!! Welcome E.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Tough loss by L.A…Props to Shane though.

  • http://www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Is Blakezilla already better than A’m'a’r'e”?

    Can’t wait to watch tonight, I hope Bron just acknowledges the crowd and gives a Rocky 4 speech. Just saying.

  • vtrobot

    thank you again, ray. it was about time. ‘dre miller is still tough. he was getting what he wanted.

  • Jahmai

    Blake WILL be better than Amare, but I don’t think he’s better right now. Imagine LeBron dropping 40, that wouuld be something else.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Somebody said to KD on twitter that Russ Westbrook is the best player on the thunder, and KD responded by saying:’that’s fine, I just want to win.’ Kind of suprising to me, he said a couple of times that he wants to be known as the best player to ever play the game, but when somebody says you’re not even the best player on your own team, you’re fine with that? yeah, not buying that at all.

  • http://www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Blake griffin with fat B-Diddy is legit, imagine if Nash was feeding him.

    I think Westbrook is a star, and Gordon is improving nicely.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Thank you Anton.

  • http://slamonline.com ShadiestBen

    Anton that was brilliant top to bottom.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I’m not gonna make any excuses for my Bulls’ performance. Magic dominated, we straight up sucked. Bulls had the lowest amount of rebounds EVER in Bulls history. Joakim had zero! Rose looked scared of Dwight, partially understandable since he laid his ass out twice last season. Our bench for once like way better than our starters, and that’s only cause they actually played defense. As for Boozer, that was to be expected. How did Dwyane do first game back from injury earlier this season, Eboy? Three points or something like that? I know you know the NBA game better than that, so I’ll just take your shot at Boozer as another attempt to piss off BC. Anyways, wish I had watched the Nets-OKC game last night instead of my horriBulls (of at least DVR’d it).

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    CP3 once said something to the tune of “You’ve done nothing in this league until you’re the scouting report” I feel like teams are keying in more on Durant this year and overlooking Westbrook. Westbrook will continue to have huge games at least up through the ASG. I think I’ll wait a few more months before I throw Bodie up there with the likes of Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose, and Nash.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Oh and Boozer straight SUCKED on D. Wish I could attribute that to the injury too but from having watched him before, I already get the feeling we’re gonna lose a lot defensively with Taj going to the bench. I know Noah and Rose are gonna be fired up tomorrow night, hope everyone else follows their lead.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    I feel like a bold prediction: Barring injury Blake Griffin will go down in history as the best PF to ever play the game (TimD is still a Center in my opinion) when all is said and done. What he is doing is simply amazing, he’s like a mean combination of Karl Malone and Shawn Kemp and to thing he is playing at this level in his rookie season, imagine him in 3-4 years. Yikes… Blood will be shed… Also Russ West just keep showing that I and others were right when we labelled him better than Rose. Westbrook is a much more complete player and a far faaaaaaaaaaar better defender and his performances in Durant-less games just go to show that he easily can lead a team as the No. 1 option.

  • Jumpmanjay23

    As an honest Bulls fan, this is why the Bulls remain a 2nd tier team not yet to be mentioned along Orlando, LA, Boston, San An, and dare I say Dallas. Props to Orlando for just outplaying them at everything. LOL.

  • Jumpmanjay23

    AND Russ….oooo weeeee doin’ it big! This decade is the decade of PGs.

  • http://www.twitter.com/chris_griff_3 Chris_Griff_3

    You lost me with the Monta Ellis comment.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Oh, and for the Homecoming, I predict a close game that the Heat break open in 4th quarter and win comfortably. LeBron will have a typical LeBron (Heat version) game except pretty high on the turnovers. Wade and Bosh save the day for Miami.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Lz…. two things
    1) Duncan is a power forward. Overlooking that fact, I agree that Blake’s ceiling is higher than Malone.
    2) I don’t get how Westbrook is better than Rose. Sure, Westbrook dropped an insane 38-15-9-3 statline, but we do realize that was a triple overtime game, right? I don’t think he broke 25 before it went into overtime. He had 15 extra minutes of stat packing. Derrick Rose put up 35-12-7-1 in only one overtime (he fouled out at the beginning of the second one).
    I get it, Westbrook is a much better defender. But that’s really the only thing he does better. He’s not a better scorer. He’s not a better passer. He’s not the leader of his team. They rebound at the same clip but Rose’s team is stacked with taller, defensive oriented bigs while OKC is undersized and underwhelming at the frontcourt. Really, Westbrook is great, but he’s still a second banana, and when he became the first banana for a day, it took him three overtimes to get over the Nets who were being lead by Jordan Farmar.
    Sorry, not impressed.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Anton needs to write these more…I was laughed out loud several times while reading this…awesome!

    “Separated at birth of the day: Mike Bibby and Mini Me.” Really got me though.

  • Stepfan

    Q:Is Flip the worst coach in the league?
    A:YES!!!!! He a coach that is suppose to be known for his defense but my squad gets blown out by the Raptors. “I recall him running the same play (unsuccessfully) close to five consecutive times. ” And yet that night in Miami it took him seven minutes to call a timeout and the Wizards haven’t even scored a point. smh Man I miss Eddie Jordan.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    should read “I laughed”…fail…

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @Jukai…He was first banana against the Celtics and scorched them. How do you explain that?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Jukai has been pretty smart for the last few months. His comment about Westbrook brought back memories of the 2008 Jukai. That is not a good look.

  • T-Money

    Lz – as crazy as that sounds, you may be right… His rookie season is at least on par with the all-time greats at the 4. // Yeah… KD’s humbleness seems a bit forced sometimes. I know I’ve heard him say that he wants to be the best basketball player in the world (which is totally fine, he should aim for that). There’s no need to pretend like you’re okay with Westbrook being the go-to guy. You’re not. And that’s okay. // I’m still not convinced the Bulls can score enough.

  • http://slamonline.com ShadiestBen

    So basically Jukai has been agreeing with Eboy for the last few months.
    Westbrook and Rose are on par IMO.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Don’t listen to them Jukai – you’re 100% correct on the Westbrook/Rose stuff. As for my Bulls, no denying it they looked horrible. Part of it is I think Orlando is just a bad match up, part of it is it looked like the Bulls were trying to force getting Boozer incorporated, part was the Bulls just flat out sucking. I was suprised they came out flat on such an anticipated night. I’ll pick one of Eboy’s 70 excuses for the Heat and apply it to the Bulls: “Its just one game”, “I’ll worry about them when the playoffs start”, “We need 4 months to gel”, “Well the Lakers & Spurs lost last night too so the Bulls are good!”

  • http://slamonline.com ShadiestBen

    Also Westbrook is a much better defender than Rose, whereas if Rose is a better scorer its not by much. This season Westbrook has been lights out from mid range.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    @Kap – DRose averaged 30 points over the Bulls 7 game road trip – which included 2 back to backs. You’re looking at TWO F*CKING GAMES and saying westbrook is the better player. Yeah that makes sense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Diesel, stop it. You make yourself out to be stupider than your thoughts read. I make no excuses for the Heat….except that I’LL worry about them when the playoffs roll around. That’s not an excuse. Everyone else can criticize them nightly. You and your simpletonistic Bull cronies can all choke on Rose’s nuts for all I care. Your team is more flawed than you claim. Face it. You are relying on Carlos Boozer to be your X-Factor. There’s all you need to know. Actually, that’s all the REST of us need to know.

  • Ali

    Told muggs back in 07-08 he was just scratching the surface at UCLA. The LBC native is killin’ it! Beastly numbers this over the past few weeks.
    12 Nov – 36-7-7
    26 Nov – 43-8-8
    1 Dec 38-15-9
    This is the kind of work ethic, drive and motivation all NBA fans can appreicate. Get em’ Russ!

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Wha? Rose is a better scorer by not so much? I think that’s a vast exaggeration… Rose is also a superior passer, and as I said, he’s actually leading his team, unlike Westbrooke, who never sees a double team in his life playing next to Durant.
    What garbage. I’m sorry, who started for the US Team and who came off the bench?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Rose is better than Westbrook, so far all defenses have focused on DRose for pretty much every game and he still drops 26,8. And when things get tough he steps his game up, dropping 30 on the Circus trip. I think Westbrook is phenomal this season don’t get me wrong. To me, he’s in contention for the MVP Award. He and Rose have been playing some amazing ball this season, but if I had the no 1 pick I’d take Rose in a sec.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Boozer is going to make Bulls fans really, really angry. Particularly with his defense. You all will see. It’s no coicidence that Utah has made a vast improvement in defense now that the Unibrow has takent his talents to the Windy City.
    Rose by a hair. A very thin Jeff Van Gundy hair.

  • JTaylor21

    Westbrook did get more playing time at the end of the tournament than Rose Jukai. Westbrook also outplayed Rose in the tournament.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn, BCrawford is no where to be found. Must have popped in some Nirvana and Kurt Cobained himself after the return of the “eyebrow”.

  • http://slamonline.com ShadiestBen

    Because Rose started over Westbrook thats the end of the argument?
    After Durant who was USA’s most impressive player in Turkey? In my opinion it was Westbrook.

  • Bruno

    cosign Allenp about Boozer

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    JTaylor21: Mostly because Westbrook got the garbage minutes. In close games, guess who got the playing time? I mean, I really didn’t think this was going to be debated.

  • JTaylor21

    See I told y’all yesterday that the return of the Eyebrow would make the bulls a much worse defensive team and last night showing was the first of what is going to be a long and frustrating season for bulls fans whatching him f*ck up on the defensive end. Thibs should’ve brought him off the bench to give the second unit a boost instead he started with the first unit and that threw off Rose’s game. Also his return last night threw Noah off his game because Noah was quoted as saying that he was mesmerized by Booz’s eyebrow all game long which would explain he not grabbing a single rebound. He’s also amazed that a man can have more eyebrow hair than he does on his head.

  • whoooo!

    so the Clips had lost 18 straight to SA, and then BAM, Blake Griffin snaps that streak with authority! dude is an animal out there – young Amare’ like power/explosiveness but who actually CARES about rebounding and goes to do the dirty work on the boards. we need a nickname for this guy, Blakezilla ain’t cutting it.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    Actually, Blakezilla is probably the most creative name for a player that I can remember. I mean, is CP3 or D-How really better?

  • JTaylor21

    @Anton, Bosh Spice, good one. Am I going to have to sue for copyright infringement or you could just give me 15% of whatever slam pays you, which would come out to $1.50 and a jawbreaker.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Eboy – How is the Bulls relying on Boozer any different than the Heat relying on Bosh to be an “intimidating” presence down low? The difference is The Bulls just need Boozer to score…which he can easily do. Noah can handle the defense part…at lease against everyone not named Dwight. The Bulls will struggle for about the next 5 games. After that if they’re still playing like sh*t, I’ll welcome all the criticism because it will be warranted.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Jtaylor – are you the same guy that was defending Wade’s play because he was out for a week? Boozer has been out for 2 months. This was his very first game with the team. All I’m asking for is 7 less weeks than we’ve given the heat till we judge the Bulls.

  • Jackie Moon

    Crap, Jtaylor21 and eboy grow stronger … hellppppp meeeee

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    ^^^^
    hahahahahahahah

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Durant drew all the defensive attn to him on the bench, russ was just makin wide open layups, just like all season, its not like russ gets double teamed on every drive, oh he does. Russ finished wbc games. Rose and billups were the ones messin up, russ and gordon played much better. Russ is ten times the defender rose is, even scoring, and russ is the better outside shooter. Lal has problms, theyre slow, and not deep, andd rely on too many jumpshots. Bulls are overrated, theyre middle o da pack, extra mediocre, nothn special, suck it. Spurs got blaked on second night of back to back. I heard theres a game in ohio tonight.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    JTaylor21 is on fire today. lmfao @ “return of the Eyebrow”

  • webstarr

    Thorough as always Anton. Bravo.

  • webstarr

    Being a Jazz fan is repetitive year to year. Each year people outside of Utah predict that the Jazz will probably not make the playoffs or at least be a #8 seed. People in Utah always think it is “the year”. But all that matters is that our organization had the foresight to select a savage point guard to slay the competition, rendering every game a possible victory. Oh and having Sloan for the last 50 years has helped too.

  • Jackie Moon

    @webstarr – this year is actually different because they don’t have Boozer. Which is a vurry good thing for the Jazzy Utahns.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    FUN FACT OF THE DAY: A Phil Jackson led team has never won a championship in a season when the team had a four game losing streak. Here’s to History!!!!!!

  • webstarr

    And Jukai you’re right. Boozer has his moments of excellence, but all in all, not many people miss him out here. Milsap and Jefferson all day

  • webstarr

    True Jackie. But we have a curse constantly allowing us to flirt with the championship, and then predictably prematurely ej*culating before it can happen

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    @Chris_Griff3 – I was referring to Kanye’s “Monster”.
    Hey Tarzan Coop, I made this a one-pager just for you baby!
    Cleveland is Agent Smith and LeBron is Neo. It ends tonight. http://tinyurl.com/2cbeslr

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    I think Pat Riley should coach the Lakers and Pau needs to step it up for the Heat.
    *goes back to sleep*

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @JTaylor21, The Eyebrow, lmfao, that sh*t is hilarious.

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Russell Westbrook = The Elevator.
    I’m still looking 4 a cool nickname 4 Blake Griffin

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    And Adam, u were wrong on that prediction yesterday (that the Lakers will beat the Rockets)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @Eboy, Fun Fact: The Lakers will three-peat!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Sure they will, little boy.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Wheres all tthe lal fans talkin boutt their closer, almost mj? Huh? O, so they dont say much when bean is chucking his heart out, not playing defense and losing. Would someone as great as he supposedly is allow this to happen? Its fun to turn lakers fans logic back on them. Bean is nothing special. Ive seen players chuck and lose before. Whts so special about his brand of chucking and losing? Theres nothing special about mr bean.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    And how does the post up get bumped from the front page? Cmon slam!

  • webstarr

    I think he’s at least a little special cooper

  • The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Autant pour moi, get well Adam and good job Anton (as usual).
    At least Slam(online) has 2 rookies who are beasting in Anton and Adam 2 compensate the ******* (expletive) of the likes of BC.

  • http://dodgers.com Joey E.

    I dont care how bad the Clippers record is, if Blake Griffin keeps putting up these numbers, going to be really hard to keep him off the All-Star team…

  • http://Egotastic.com Michael

    Lakers have foretten how to close. They’ve lost all 6 games the exact same way. Gotten run off the court the last 5 miutes of the 4th. Wierd.

  • Jumpmanjay23

    Yo…I love me some D. Rose nuts. Ya I said it. But Jukai…let’s be real. You ain’t impressed with Russ? C’mon man…dude is just as good as Rose. Sure, Russ ain’t seen the defenses that Rose has seen but Russ that ain’t to say he ain’t as impressive as Rose. Dude can score and defend well. Rose still need to improve defensively. That’s a fact.

  • Jumpmanjay23

    Example, Rose looked lost defensively against Nelson and the Orlando guards last night.

  • LakeShow

    fun fact, PJax always wins his championship in a row.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    The Bulls got beat badly, but it’s still all good. We didn’t say that anything would be “easy” nor did we predict “4, 5, maybe even 6 championships” either. As I’ve said before, there’s no pressure on us. We’re in the process of building a championship team in Chicago THE RIGHT WAY. No pre-fab stuff going on out here. So a toast…to the stupids.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    LMAO…..always the optimist. Guess what? Michael Jordan ain’t coming through that day. Sh*t….Toni Kukoc ain’t coming through that door. Keep building the right way. You ain’t even the Hawks.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It’s better to be optimistic based on reality and not video game logic. And the Hawks thing, was that a compliment or a diss?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    A compliment. Your team is going to have a 5 year run similar to them. Run that sh*t on your 2k11 Franchise and see if I’m right.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’d be more worried about the kind of 5 year run Miami is going to have.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You’d be sliding down a slope without a sled under your a*s then.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    You’re right E, the Heat are going to go downhill fast. Enjoy the ride.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Ain’t no snow here, kid. We deal in water and franchise deaths.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Adam Figman

    Huge, huge thanks to Anton for stepping up when I went down. I owe you one, homie. I’ll return to pitch the seventh inning tonight, and he’ll be back to Mariano Rivera the week like only he could. And I think I’m done making predictions…looks like the Lakers proved me wrong again. Damnit.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    NBA TV has been showing replays of LBJ’s games in Cleveland and even though playing alongside Bosh and Wade gives him better talent, that Cavs squad was a better team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Yep….without a ring to show for “their” greatness.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What are the right ways to build a championship team again?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Apparently by putting 3 All-Stars together and then filling in the blanks.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    No E, you mean without a ring to show for “his” greatness.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No buddy, without a ring cause his greatness took them to the brink but no help never pushed them over the edge. Unless you saw Scottie Pippen/ Pau Gasol/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar/ Kevin Mchale/Young Kobe Bryant/Paul Pierce like talent on any of those Cavs rosters.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan Crawford said:
    …As I’ve said before, there’s no pressure on us. We’re in the process of building a championship team in Chicago THE RIGHT WAY. No pre-fab stuff going on out here. So a toast…to the stupids…
    So, what’s the right way and why is it the right way?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan Crawford said:
    “…As I’ve said before, there’s no pressure on us. We’re in the process of building a championship team in Chicago THE RIGHT WAY. No pre-fab stuff going on out here. So a toast…to the stupids.”
    So, once again, what’s the right way to build a championship team and why is it the right way?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’ve always blamed Mike Brown for the failure of the Cavs. Yeah, I still took my shots at LBJ when he was in Cleveland, but that situation comes down to coaching. Look, Byron Scott has less talent than Vinny Del Negro has with the Clippers and they’re 7-10. Imaging how good Cleveland would be now with LBJ playing in Scott’s system.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You didn’t answer my question. Where is the great second man to Lebron’s top dog in Cleveland? I have about 4 hours of free time to wait until tipoff.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Championship rosters are built through strategically assembling talent through the draft, trades, and free agency.

  • rob

    FACE IT THE BULLS ARE FREAKING GARBAGE. IF UR A DROSE FAN, ITS CUZ UR ON HIS NUTS AND THATS IT. THEY WONT BEAT ANYONE WORTH BEATING SO THEYRE GONNA LOSE IN THE 1ST ROUND AGAIN AND AGAIN. OKKK??? RUSS WESTBROOK AND THUNDER ARE WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK FORWARD TO. LOOK AT BOTH TEAMS RECORDS. WHO’S THE ISH AND WHO’S NOT? SIMPLE. DAMNN

  • reflex

    Some of you posters can be so immature which is sad as presumably most of you are presumably over 20?
    1st things 1st, good writeup Anton, overdid the Yeezy references but then I’ve always been pedantic.
    secondly, re Rose v Westbrook, people aren’t showing Russ enough love, while I feel Rose is better, the difference between the two is extremely marginal. On defense Westbrook, especially when he’s locked in, is considerably better. Offensively, Rose has the edge, but only just, Russ has the better midrange J but Rose is arguably the best in the league at taking it to the rim at will, plus he is a better passer (though neither dish it as good as Nash, CP3 & DWill). The knock that Russ has KD doesn’t wash because KD has been poor so far this season, in addition, in the 3 games he’s been out Russ got OKC the W, one of which was at the garden.
    As I say, Rose is better but only just. Stop knocking Russ’ hustle.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    That’s an excuse, E. See the ’04 Pistons. It’s so funny that people want to have it both ways with LeBron. On one hand, they say that he’s the greatest player the world has ever seen because he’s MJ, Magic, and Barkley all rolled into one, aka the perfect basketball player. But when he comes up short, because of his stats he becomes blameless and the onus falls on the players around him. When MJ was doing the same thing, it was HE, not his supporting cast who took the blame for the failings of the Bulls. And if you don’t know that then you have a very limited knowledge of NBA history. So if a guy is supposed to be Superman and the greatest basketball player ever (according to the groupies), then how come he needs more help than the collection of the players whose qualities he’s supposed to be embody? I mean come on, you’d think a guy like that could’ve gotten at least ONE championship in Cleveland in 7 years. Given the hype, that shouldn’t have been too much to ask.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And how exactly does the composition of the Heat violate the rules of proper championship building?
    Two players signed through trades, one resigned through free agency. Numerous free agents brought in to fill out the roster.
    Now, you could argue the the similarity between LeBron and Wade’s skillsets is a fatal flaw in the team, but I think it’s a tad early to state that definitively.
    The Heat built a team through trades and free agency. I’m unclear how this is not the “right way.”
    And the Bulls are desperately hoping that Boozer is their missing piece, that Noah takes a large leap offensively, and that Brewer and Korver magically become something they haven’t been their entire careers.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Apparently, the right way is to luck into the no1 pick, let your best scorer(who had flaws) walk, give away your best perimeter defender and great shooter in hopes of signing two superstars. Then, sign no superstars, and give boozer way too much money. Yep, thats the right way.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Bryan Crawford Posted: Dec.2 at 4:26 pm
    Championship rosters are built through strategically assembling talent through the draft, trades, and free agency.

    (As opposed to building a championship team through osmosis?)

  • Jackie Moon

    @eboy “Scottie Pippen/ Pau Gasol/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar/ Kevin Mchale/Young Kobe Bryant/Paul Pierce” &nbsp
    &nbsp
    You take Pau Gasol and Paul Pierce off that list immediately! At least, put them on a lower tier.

  • Jackie Moon

    @eboy “Scottie Pippen/ Pau Gasol/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar/ Kevin Mchale/Young Kobe Bryant/Paul Pierce”  
     
    You take Pau Gasol and Paul Pierce off that list immediately! At least, put them on a lower tier.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Huge props to anton for doing this on short notice and for making it one page, keep it that way! Crawford, your vdn vs byron is flawed because kaman has been out, he wouldve helped them to a couple more wins at least. Kaman blake is scary.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Allen, your 4:46 comment was literally ridiculous, so I’ll make things easier for you: name me an NBA franchise that has won an championship being assembled in the same manner as this Heat squad since the advent of free agency. You’re smarter than this. You sounded like T-Money just now.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    And crawford, you know damn well the pistons were an anomaly. Every other team has had two or more superstars. Pistons and rockets were the exceptions.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Who cares if its ever happened, there has never been a summer like last summer, the Current CBA is 10 years old, not 70, how could you expect anything to be like it used to be. Name a time other then in 1982 that a player signed a 25 year contract and it was beneficial for the organization that offered it. That’s a lame excuse (Name Me an Championship team being assembled in a similar matter), why don’t you name us another time in NBA history a team has run its 6 time championship roster out of town and it paid off for them?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Tarzan, according to you, everything that I say is flawed. But that’s primarily due to you having a basketball IQ in the negative.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Bron Crawford….the Ba Ba Booey of SlamOnline!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And I like how people only addressed one part of my 4:45 comment (Tarzan) while the rest of it goes largely ignored, and instead, everybody wants to attack my theory on how a championship team should be constructed. How come nobody wants to take a stab at the logic behind proclaiming someone to be the “greatest” and then making excuse after excuse for him when he fails? Like I said, if a guy is literally being worshiped by the masses because he’s an MJ/Magic/Barkley/Oscar Robertson hybrid, you shouldn’t have to make excuses for a guy like that and it just goes to show that there’s a lot more to basketball than just having talent. This dude doesn’t even possess a 3rd of the will, the mental toughness, or even the killer instinct that those guys had even at the same age.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Bryan – LeBron is 25, nobody can clearly say he is the greatest of all time, nobody can say he isn’t. What can be said, at this age, with his body of work, he’s better then everyone else in history. By the age of 25 what did those other guys accomplish that allows you to make an of you assumptions. Basically people are ignoring that part of your comment because your nitpicking for things you can’t even prove. your a basketball journalist and your ability to subjectively use reason to form or convey your opinion is completely lost. Your hate of LeBron or Miami whichever it is, is losing you a lost of respect, i doubt you care, but we are the people that read your work.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    sorry my keyboard is dying

  • Jackie Moon

    My real IQ is low, but my basketball IQ is high

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    In my comment, nbk, what can’t I prove? And if I’m losing “respect” because I refuse to give a certain player the same amount of it that you guys do, so be it. Don’t read. It matters not.

  • JTaylor21

    BCrawford, when has any Bron fan/supporter on this site ever ever proclaimed him as the greatest or soon to be GOAT? Riddle me that. There you go again with making ish up in that mind of yours and putting it in print like it’s a fact or something. Bron has some flaws just like any past/present great but you act like he’s the second coming of james white. Out of all those guys you named, only MJ and Magic have put up better individual playoff numbers than Bron and none of them ever carried a team as mediocre as the 07 cavs to the finals. Stop acting like you can just find any uber-atheltic dude from the street and plug him into bron’s role and he’ll would flourish because he can’t. No one in the Nba can carry an average team to elite status the way Bron can, put him on the timberwolves or pistons and I bet they would be 5X times better. That takes some kind of will power and determination, doesn’t it?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I may be misunderstanding your point, but it seems like your saying or have been saying over the past couple days that LeBron is not the same type of player as jordan/robertson/magic/barkley, infact you said just 2 days ago that you didn’t find him to be special or more then just a terrific athlete or something along those lines and are upset that blame for him not winning titles hasn’t fallen on his shoulders. Like you said “you’d think a guy like that could’ve gotten at least ONE championship in Cleveland in 7 years,” except, other then Magic and Bird who walked into championship situations on day one, who has ever had that kind of success with a team build strictly around them? Michael did it in year 7 at the age of what 28? its just too early in the season, in his career, in general to be making claims that he is overrated. Your hate for him is one thing, but all of this extra garbage your spewing stinks, like garbage.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    No.

  • JTaylor21

    That’s cool but why am I even trying to convince a chap who asked the now infamous question; What makes bron special?

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    The bulls suck, thats why crawford has been hating even more than usual. …… I point out that your comparison is inaccurate because all star chris kaman hasnt played, and you say I have low bball iq. I made a logical point tto you that clips havent had their main piece, and you call me dumb. You could have said, o I forgot about kaman, but vinny still sucks. But u didnt, u just made yourself look dumb. And you havent responded to my point that detroit(04) and houston were anomalies, and championships teams have two or more superstars. You just keep complaining that there arent more people hating on bron, like you, for not winning a title yet. Eat shtt, apparently you enjoy that.

  • http://Bcrawfordsahater.com Nbk

    The bulls don’t suck, they just aren’t a real contender.

  • The D Train

    Just for reference, Tarzan posted a couple of days ago that Ben Gordon was the “main reason” the Bulls took the C’s to 7 games a couple years back in the first round. He constantly blows smoke about the Bulls sucking and talks sh1t about Rose like he’s trying to get into the Eboy Fan Club. So feel free to add him to the list of posters whose comments must be taken with a giant shaker of salt.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    nbk, there’s no convincing tarzan that the Bulls don’t suck. But you probably have only watched one Bulls game all year (against the Spurs), haven’t you, tarzan? Your hatred of the Bulls is apparently as blind as BC’s hatred of LeBron and my hatred of Michael Jordan’s youngest son.

  • http://Bcrawfordsahater.com Nbk

    Oh I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything, I just like to add unbiased logic to an otherwise biased set of comments.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Everyone is biased in one way or another.

  • http://Bcrawfordsahater.com Nbk

    Sure Bryan, nobody can separate their emotions from their beliefs.

  • Jumpmanjay23

    It’s funny, hate to douse the flame with some more incendiary comments but the Lake Show or Beantown gonna win the ‘ship anyway. Just sayin’.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Miami…LBJ…Rose vs.Westbrook…return of the eyebrow…return of Chucker Kob’s….Hate…Hate…garbage theories…more hate…
    Ho hum, the usual.
    Personally i’m loving the resurgence of my Mavs. Tyson Chandler bringing in some, scratch that, a LOT of fire and an incredible increase in FT% , Dirk just killing defenders in November, Stevenson, Marion, Haywood and Tyson anchoring that D is making Dallas look very promising. Hope Roddy can add to the mix when he returns.
    Oh and TPU is REALLY good this season. Props to the A-Team (Adam & Anton).

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    “Championship rosters are built through strategically assembling talent through the draft, trades, and free agency.”
    Sort of like recruiting three future Hall-of-Famers who play different positions? Or am I thinking of the Boston Celtics? Oh, wait…

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    I don’t want to call out ANYONE’S BBall IQ, but saying something can’t be done because it hasn’t happened in history is really, really dumb.
    But hey, it could be worse. You could have something really dumb like Lebron isn’t special.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Juk’s with the zinger…
    nice.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    For the record, I dont really think the bulls suck. I say that sometimes just to jab at bulls fans who said they would be title contenders and rose would be mvp. Ive said before th bulls are a middle of the pack team. I dont hate rose, I hate the immense hype hes had. I think back to when dwade was on some espn show ‘homecoming’, and the host asked him about where he ranks among chicago greats, and host names a few, then adds wade and rose. And wade responded, ‘wow, derrick rose already?’. Hes gotten crazy hype for not doing much yet. He is off to a great start to the season. But to use crawfords logic, if hes so great, how come theyre barely above .500? I know bulls will improve as the season goes on. Im not a fan of their unwarranted hype. …………. …. Funny how crawford replies to my logical points with intellectual insults. Thats all hes good at, red herrings.

  • http://sdfklfds.com Jukai

    SUCK A D, CLEVELAND!!!!!

  • http://Bcrawfordsahater.com Nbk

    They are basically crying publicly. Lol

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Damn, Post Up is gonna be cuhrazzy tomorrow morning. Anton should do it again, but Lang/Ryne/Ben should free him of his “neutral fan” shackles.
    The old Anton, Cavs fan extraordinaire writing a TPU after THIS game…. epic.

  • The D Train

    @Tarzan’s 8:24 comment: your last sentence…you know that what you accuse Crawf of is the same thing that JT, Eboy and others on this site practice, right? SLAM is a great mag, but a lot of guys who post on this site don’t know sh1t about having an intelligent conversation without resorting to name-calling and demeaning their peers. AllenP is the best at commenting without slinging arrows, but he’s definitely in the minority. As the great Lisa Simpson says, “you’ll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator.” Unfortunately that’s what this site has become. Guys that have the capability of having an intelligent discussion on bball instead resort to lowering themselves to a level that is not necessary for intelligent and grown-up basketball fans. Cats that are 40 years old, 30 years old, 25 years old, etc, should be able to discuss these things without being total jagoff’s, but that just ain’t the reality in cyberspace, unfortunately.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ What the hell did you just call me? You jerk!

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Ned Flanders: hey homer, how do you stop that little voice that says ‘think’?. Homer: you mean lisa? ……… ……….. …. PT Barnum: you can never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the american people.

  • Mike from Spain

    I am a little worried about my Lakers… Artest is playing bad, Pau is exhausted and shooting horribly, Kobe is in ‘shoot everything’ mode, the bench are back to their 2009 – 2010 output, Fish does not seem to be getting any younger…I never thought I’d be praying for Ratliff or Bynum so early in the season.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    So because signing three all-stars has never happened before, it won’t work?
    Sorry, that’s patently ridiculous.
    The Heat signed free agents, made trades, and retained the superstar they initially drafted.
    We won’t know if this is the “right way” until they succeed or fail at winning a ring.
    This whole convo feels like you’re saying that you have a problem with players taking power from executives and deciding where they want to play and who they want to play with. If that’s what the real issue is, you should just say that’s the issue.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And thanks to whoever pointed out that the Heat’s assembly is just like Boston’s assembly, except that the players had more of a say-so, and that the Heat’s talents are not as complimentary.
    Which has been my contention from the moment this whole Big Three was discussed.

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