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Monday, January 31st, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  236 responses

Kevin Durant on Chris Bosh: ‘Fake Tough Guy’


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

It’s kind of amazing when you consider it: Despite the public breakup with his old team, the winking ads, and occasionally controversial Twitter declarations, LeBron James is arguably not the most disliked member of the Miami Heat.

Chris Bosh has managed to continuously draw the ire of the public this season, and yesterday afternoon in Oklahoma City, he got under Kevin Durant‘s skin.

The two exchanged words early in the game, and following the Miami Heat‘s tough road win, Durant explained what his issue with Bosh was.

The Oklahoman has the quotes:

“He was telling Harden to dunk on me,” Bosh said. “He said dunk the next one. I expressed that, no, he’s not going to dunk that. And he expressed, yes he is. We just kind of went back and forth. I don’t think it was anything to get a tech over. It was just talking.”

“I was talking to my teammate and he decided he wanted to put his two cents into it,” Durant said. “I’m a quiet guy, a laid back guy. But I’m not going to let nobody talk trash to me. He’s on a good team now so he thinks he can talk a little bit. But it’s a lot of fake tough guys in this league and he’s one of them.”

“I’m no punk,” Durant said. “I wasn’t even talking to him, first-off. He decided to butt in. I’m not just going to let that slide, especially in our house. He’s not one of those guys that I look at and say he has a rep for talking back to guys or always getting into it. He’s a nice guy. He’s not one of those guys. So I’m not going to let that type of person say something to me like that”

Nothing too controversial there; it’s likely just frustration from a highly-competitive guy spilling over after a difficult loss on national television.

It bears noting, however, that Kevin Durant normally never says anything like that about any opponent, at least not to the media.

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  • RunNGun

    You put Bosh back on the Raptors and he won’t be talking s#!t, he’d cry. Durant owns Bosh.

  • 2KInsider

    He just mad cuz Eddie House was bussin’ they ass.

  • riggs

    just a player spitting truth, nothing more.

  • MUBWAR

    Ya but this is not the Raptors anymore. Good to see Bosh back. The offense is sooo smooth with him on the floor. Pick N roll for Lebron, pick N pop for Bosh and Mr. everything for Wade.

  • spit hot fiyah

    ….like a bosh!

  • T-Money

    i thought people were supposed to talk ish when they won games.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    If either one of those dudes were walking down a dark alley, I’d laugh my a*s off and punch MYSELF in the face. Two pretzel sticks that couldn’t fight a cold. Give it up, tough man KD. Until you find a way to beat a Lebron James team, you need to shut the f*ck up, Mr. Understated. 0-6 in your career. You ain’t there yet.

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    ^^nice! Pretzel sticks!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And to be serious for a second, when has Chris Bosh EVER claimed to be or acted like a “tough guy”. He’s a finesse power forward. He said “no you won’t” when KD said to Harden “next time, dunk it on him”. That tough-guy talk would make Charles Oakley roll over in his grave.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Amusing all around.

  • AMPduppp

    the sad thing is, both guys are so laid back that i can seriously imagine the exchange reading exactly how bosh described it: ‘no sir, you shall not dunk over me!’

  • Zabba

    co-sign Eboy.

  • Fat Lever

    Eric Gordon says, “that trash talk is too rough. They’re letting them say anything out there.”

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Like a Bosh!
    0-6 against Bron? Didn’t know that. Bron could legitimately be the L’s best on ball defender if he focused on that.
    It’s interesting that these guys are refuted as tough guys. Sure they are both pretty tough, especially in comparison to a 40 year old guy calling himself a boy.You don’t become an NBA All Star without some toughness.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Oh, E, that reference to you was just in jest.

  • Toronto

    omg Eboy sucking Lbrons greg again. KD will dominate lebit$h for years to come. Eboy you are the biggest tool on this website

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  • Flight

    I like this.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    KD needs to win ONE regular season game to begin his “domination”. Get back to class, b*tch.

  • Jared

    Toronto don’t be an idiot…KD doesn’t even know how to dominate lebron. Maybe he should start by going to the gym and becoming an all around player instead of an allen iverson shooting machine.

  • Bruno

    so now Bosh will have to discuss with everbody on the league cause any player can say to any of his teammates dunk on him

  • riggs

    “He’s on a good team now so he thinks he can talk a little bit.”

    truth.

  • greg

    @ toronto are you delusional? lebron personally shut down durant took his cookies on multiple occasions and picked apart his defense for 24 and 13 assists. Bosh reacted in a way any human being would. westbrook struggled with a bigger wade as well. durant drawing fouls was the only thiing to save them from getting dominated

  • MUBWAR

    Eboy is he really 0-6 against Lebron all time. Eww. But he was manhandled last night.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Yes.

  • http://www.rudeboy.com J-Money

    LOLLL seems like everybody clowning bosh these days. ain’t nobody got respect for this man. kinda sad!!!

  • rob

    LMAO! the heetles are 0-3 against the spurs and the Celtics. only teams they should worry bout. paul peirce would make lbj shut up realll quick. too bad they wont ever beat them. not enough team experience plus MIA’s bench sucks ass.

  • JL

    While KD isn’t quite at LeBron level yet, don’t talk ish about him acting like he still isn’t one of the best players in the league. He is one of, if not the best, scorers we have in the game today. Not to mention the dude is 22. Some of y’all are making him sound like he’s garbage. While he might’ve been out of place with this kinda talk, the man gets his. Give him proper respect at least.

  • Fat Lever

    Daquan Cook had a brain freeze at the worst time. How you run out at Lebron when House is standing 7 feet to his right to contest a Lebron 3 is beyond me. I would have let Lebron shoot that shot. Gotta play smarter than that.

  • robb

    RuPaul’s been trying to act tough since the big three introduction back in july.

  • Shem

    I’ve been watching the Raptors religiously for over 10 years. I’ve seen Bosh start his career in Toronto and watched almost every game until he ended it while bleeding due to a Jamison elbow. Never have I ever seen Bosh get into a players face like he did to Durant yesterday. Now that he’s on a good team he got a lot tougher then he was before and that is fake tough. He isn’t tough he acts tough. The same case could also be made for Garnett because he wasn’t this tough with the Timberwolves but he’s one tough dude. Maybe Bosh in a couple years will be feared like KG?

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I can’t remember Garnett being any different in Minnesota, he just had know one else with him, aside from the couple of years with Spree and Sam I Am.

  • http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2011/01/21/video-rudy-fernandez-guests-on-the-benny-hill-show/ SMK73

    Man, Bosh is just trying to make a living and provide for his family. If Harden dunks on him he could get scratched up real bad by his beard. You gotta think before making a play like that.

  • WangChung

    Its time for Paul Pierce to knee this fool in the balls again.

  • http://Mrjones21901@aol.com Run’n'Gun219

    so kd is tough. he is a 6’10 shooting gaurd who never plays in the paint. i think him and chris bosh have a few thing in common

  • http://nicekicks.com Meloman2.0

    OK Eboy… but riddle me this, what is Bron, Wade, and Bosh combined record against MELO!?

  • http://yahoo.com The Ambassador

    Whose next to on Kevin Durants wannabe tough guys list, Gasol?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Exactly, Melo. I don’t think I’ve heard Bron, Wade and Bosh saying dudes on the Nuggets are wannabe thugs. Take a loss and shut the f*ck up.

  • Red Star

    I don’t know who Bosh thinks he’s fooling! Tough, please!!! He’s one of the weekest PF in the league and always will be. I would have told him to shut his RuPaul mouth up!
    Propa!

  • http://slamonline.com Gabriel

    How obviuos is it that KD Doesn’t like the HEAT.Thats y Lebron Owns him.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    pop pop pop *shots fired*

  • Fat Lever

    By the way Eboy, you should totally try out for the starting PG for the Heat. You might be better than Chalmers and Arroyo. I think I saw them eating some courtside dude’s popcorn while the Heat were “executing” a play.

  • Jamaal2112

    Eboy is correct, but he’s still a tool.

  • http://www.acb.com A l a n

    kOBE 5 bRON 0.
    bron ain’t there yet neither…

  • Tom

    I think it’s funny that the media thinks Durant is a quiet humble guy, a girl from my school has season tickets courtside to Nuggets games and she said Durant is one of the biggest trash talkers in the league.

  • KHALID SALAAM

    ZZZZZZZZZ…..

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Red Star, Bosh would have promptly slapped you.

  • http://yo OvaChicken

    ”I aint no punk ! ” Well take the L & StFU kid. It aint your first nor the last pretzel boy.

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com/forusm Kevin

    It’s not like KD lied about Bosh Spice

  • riggs

    @Tom: ah yes the inevitable “my friend said this person is blah blah” post.

  • Yesse

    Fake Tough Guy? He has never even tried to be a tough guy.

  • riggs

    lol @ the people defending bosh are the same people calling him rupaul last season.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    @Yesse exactly

  • MUBWAR

    Can you imagine KD playing the 4, let alone guarding the opposing PF. They might weight about the same but Bosh is much tougher than this 6’10 SG slash SF

  • Feez22

    I didn’t need Durant to tell me that bosh was soft… I would have liked it if Durant would have just been quiet on this one. Starting off your media trash talking career with a shot at rupaul is like let’s say kicking a dog when it’s down lol.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Finally.
    Durant starting to show his ass.
    I was starting to really think he was David Robinson, manners wise.

  • http://dude Chukaz

    On other basketball related news, Kobe Bryant is good at basketball…

  • karma

    lol @ Eboy defending the Heat even when Bosh was clearly trying to act tough. If a PF like say….Gasol (rather than Bosh) had done something similar, this dude would be all on KD’s balls. Grow up.

  • karma

    And not one person on the Heat is actually “tough”. The only ones I respect are Wade and House because he busted on Alston’s ass.

    There very few “tough” players in this league at this point, and the ones who are actually tough don’t need to act it out (see: KG).

  • karma

    I don’t understand why being nice, like KD is, is a bad thing. I find it funny when media members (who have likely never been in a fight since they’ve spent most of their lives typing away) and silly commenters (who try to assert their level of intellect over a message board when in reality are probably afraid to speak) question a player’s toughness.

    If you make it to the NBA, you’re tough as nails.

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    “Kevin expressed that should Harden make another attempt at scoring a goal, while I’m defending the basket, that Harden should take the opportunity to dunk the basketball. I decided to interject and express that it will be highly unlikely for me to allow that to happen.”

  • Fat Lever

    Are we now arguing about who in the NBA is perceived as “tough”? This is the dumbest argument I’ve seen in a while. These guys are paid to play basketball. Not be tough guys. If you want to see tough guys go watch MMA or anything with Rosie O’Donnell in it.

  • Stillballin

    I’ll say something too if a guy telling his teammates to dunk on me.. It’s basketball everybody talk trash..

  • http://dude Chukaz

    My problem with all of this is that when bosh said that harden wouldn’t dunk on him, KD shoulda said that he’d dunk on bosh rather than saying that harden would. If i were KD i woulda said “boy looka here, if you don’t stfu umma bust one on your face like i did to your momma last night”

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Lol @Lever…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Karma, co-sign 100%. Not one person who has commented on this board could go toe to toe with Bosh and win.

  • bashmo

    bottom line, Bosh is a beast and is a very underrated ball player. He does not get enough respect as it is. And look at durant, claiming he is a fake, tough guy. LOL when has bosh tried to portray himself as a “tough” guy?? lol.

  • Fat Lever

    Chukaz got that line from the rejected list of AND 1 Trash Talk Tees.

  • JTaylor21

    Don’t you just love laker fans, their only response to anything kobe/Bron is 5 rings because they know that dude is better than their idol in everything else. FYI, rings are a team accomplishment.

  • http://slamonline.com Hossy

    hey eboy why don’t you go gooble Rupaul Bosh’s nutsack

  • http://slamonline.com Hossy

    gobble

  • MUBWAR

    we should actually say Kobe Bryant 2 rings cause we know the rest belong to Shaq.

  • karma

    Yes, because if Lebron were to win 5 rings, you would say its a team accomplishment. Get the hell outta here you double-standard losers.

  • http://zenguu Max

    Bosh, Lebron, Durant = 0 rings
    Mbenga = 2 rings

  • karma

    If Kob scores, he’s a ball hog. If he passes, its Gasol’s team. If he wins, its cause of Gasol, or Phil. If the Lakers lose, it’s cause of him. If he wins MVP, Chris Paul should have won. If he wins the championship, its cause his one bad game (check his series stats) were enough to warrant him as not being an MVP. He shouldn’t be considered for his 3 rings with Shaq even though he was the number 2 scoring option, played excellent defense, and was the Closer on those teams. Its similar to how Pippen’s rings are all MJ’s, and shouldn’t count? Right?

  • karma

    People will never give that guy a break – they never have his entire career, and they never will.

  • karma

    Nevermind the fact that most of these cats commenting on Kobe’s rings belonging to Shaq didn’t even WATCH the Lakers three peats teams – reading stats is all you need nowadays.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I guess we could always watch Kobe the tough guy get his a*s busted by Chris Childs a couple of hundred times and call it a day.

  • karma

    Yes, because a Childs sucker punch epitomizes how weak Kobe is.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Yes, it does.

  • karma

    And I wasn’t even talking about Kobe’s toughness, I was calling you out on your need to defend Bosh in this, and make fun of KD in the process when its clearly out of character for him to call someone out.
    My problem is with your constant non-nonsensical levels of defense against every bone headed thing a Heat player does, and your demeaning attitude towards anyone who disagrees.

  • MUBWAR

    looooooool at E

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @AllBall – you don’t know that. Just cause a dude’s 6’10″ doesn’t mean an averaged-sized person couldn’t whoop his ass. It’s not like he’s Shaq, he can get got.

  • karma

    Or we could watch Lebron fail to stand up to Deshawn f*cking Stevenson and call it a day.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Who’s Deshawn Stevenson?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    And leave it to Lakers and Heat fans to turn this into yet another Kobe vs. LeBron debate. Cause those NEVER get old!

  • MUBWAR

    Deshawn who?

  • karma

    Who’s Chris Childs?

    (I doubt half the readers on here know who he or guys like Charlie Ward are btw)

  • karma

    ITs not a Kobe/Lebron thing. I’m defending my franchise player for taking heat for reasons that aren’t really his. When Kobe was out of the game in the first quarter cause of foul trouble, the Lakers struggled offensively. If you watched the game, Gasol and Bynum were lethargic, especially on D. The problem was not the offense, it as the defense. When there was about 2 minutes left in the game, the Lakers gave back to back WIDE OPEN layups with no one within 10 feet of Garnett, right out of a timeout. They really did not care. Kobe gets the blame DEFENSIVELY, not offensively.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ‘Cause most of the readers nowadays are 14.

  • karma

    Lots of typos in that one, sorry folks.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Matic, had you commented on this story before I said that?
    I was referring to the people saying that neither Durant or Bosh are tough, or saying that they would of said something to ‘Rupaul’.
    And whilst I don’t know that for a fact, Chris Bosh is big strong and fast, so he could probably hold his own with most.

  • Bruno

    and the same old stubborn grandpa keeps fightin all the youngsters

  • karma

    I wish I had the readership and the platform to knock out Henry Abott with my writing. I have so many refutes to his points; it sucks that the prevalent narratives for players are dictated by writers with clear agendas against them.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Bruno, you must be in 7th period recess right now?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Nah, I hadn’t commented before that.
    I get what you’re saying, I’m just saying someone who’s big and tall and all that isn’t always gonna whoop on others smaller than him.
    You ever see the old UFCs where Royce Gracie was choking out dudes three times his size?
    At the same time though, yeah, most cats aren’t Royce Gracie and I suppose nine out of ten peeps would just end up like that fat dude that tried to take on Jermaine O’Neal at the Malice at the Palace. LOL.

  • Jose

    Your doing somethin right or something wrong when Kevin Durant is hatin/dissin

  • doyouwantmore

    Lebron is to Dominique Wilkins as Durant is to Jordan.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Yeah, I was talking about the guys before, saying how so and so wasn’t tough.
    Na I haven’t seen that, i’ll youtube it right now. You think we got many Royce Gracie’s behind the computers around here? lol. Yeah I imagine that would happen with the majority, myself included. Although Jermaine’s relative (I think cousin), fought Lennox Lewis before.

  • Bruno

    yeah and all my students are making fun of you

  • dma

    The only guy on that Heat team I’d be scared of is Haslem. And sometimes Arroyo. Sometimes.

  • the nerve

    i’ll fuk all yall up. eboy my n!gga tho

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    As long as you’re not teaching basketball, bruno….otherwise their education would be bottom of the barrel.

  • MUBWAR

    Bruno and E should keep up cause my job is soooo boring, i have nothing else to do.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Nerve is HERE!!!!!! My man.

  • KennyD

    Kevin Durant just basically admitted if it was KG he would have never talked back. But still Bosh needs to play the part and let LeBron be the man of the team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I bet the nerve ain’t afraid of KD or Bosh.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Matic, Gracie is quick as lighting! Nerve’s gonna make B Crawford come out of retirement.

  • JTaylor21

    Or we could point out how Kobe got punked by his wife into buying her a 4 million dollar ring and call it a day.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    AllBall – check out Royce’s brother Rickson too. That cat was even better.

  • Bruno

    and now the toughest guy in the comments … the nervEboy

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Why would anyone be afraid of another human being at all? F*ck that. They bleed just like me.

  • karma

    We could also talk about irrelevant off-court issues like Lebron getting dunked on and hiding the tape, or perhaps worse, acting like a uneducated brat (much like yourself) on national TV but we won’t do that, and call it a day.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aODnXqy7YwU Nicolas Fleming

    If you think Kobe can’t hold his own watch the ninja nerves at work against Matt Barnes. Click the name.

  • karma

    “Why would anyone be afraid of another human being at all? F*ck that. They bleed just like me.”

    Yes, only they weight about 100+ pounds more than you do, have greater strength (olympic lifts will do that to you), are more fit than you are, and are anywhere from 4 inches to a good foot taller than you.

    I’m not trying to pick on you, I’m just saying – its cool to have a warrior attitude, but its hard to do that when you’re in a fight and the other guy has a physical advantage over you to that degree and you’re not a trained fighter.

  • JTaylor21

    Or we could put out how Kobe’s ratting resume would make Sammy the Bull blush and call it a day.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Or we could figure out that it doesn’t matter what the topic is on any given day, because it will ultimately turn to a Lebron v. Kobe debate, not call it a day and continue as we were.

  • karma

    Or we would talk about being a first class douche by talking in the third person, tattooing “Chosen.1″ across one’s back, and calling yourself the King despite having zero rings while biting your fingernails in the clutch and call it a day.

  • CONEY ISLANDER

    Miss Bosh needs to simmer down.

  • karma

    Its not Lebron vs. Kobe, its me against this kid who doesn’t understand that unlike everyone else on this site, I won’t let the idiotic and often irrelevant stuff he says slide.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    karma, there’s a difference between going out and picking fights with dudes way bigger than you because you have some Napoleanic complex, and just having the heart to not back down or be afraid of people.
    I’m 5’3″, man. Short as hell, and I’m not one to start something, but I’ve never backed down from anyone who came at me first. I never understood why one human being would be scared of another. That’s all I’m saying.
    In high school I fought this football player dude who was like 6’4″, 220 pounds. I got some good licks in but he whooped me pretty good. But he was talking sh*t bout my sister, so I said I’ma get at dude. Damn his size.
    Also being a former Marine totally throws out the idea of being aftaid of anyone. That’s just unacceptable.
    Now, there’s a difference between courage and stupidity. If I’m in a bar and there’s five dudes wanting to whoop my a**, I’m gone. I got a family, man. I’m not about to risk getting beaten to death over some nonsense.
    But me being scared of a dude? Not happening. And it shouldn’t happen to anyone.

  • karma

    Or we could talk about the fact that despite 7 years in the league, James’ arsenal consists of bull-drives to the hoop, sporadic three point shooting, limited post moves, and a suspect jump shot.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Matic, that makes sense, and that comment about courage/stupidity cleared it up for me.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Ah…..but one has never ra*ed a woman. Let’s end it with that. Also, Enig should change his screen name to Wolverine. In the comics, Wolverine was a short little dude….not the 6′ 0″ one that showed up in the X-Men movies.

  • karma

    OK, you win Jason Williams. A case that did not go to trial and was settled out of court MUST mean that Kobe’s the worst human being ever and is absolutely guilty, despite evidence that the girl had sex with 3 other dudes after him. Yes.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Wolverine was the man on the cartoon. Fck Hugh Jackman.

  • MUBWAR

    FLEMING got everything on point. Even if we know Lebron is the better player..lool

  • youngmuggsy

    I’d love to a video of KD making these comments. I’ve never even seen him frown, let alone launch a verbal attack on somebody.

  • http://jayemmbee23.tumblr.com Clutch Performer

    as a Toronto fan , KD is totally wrong but everytime bosh tried to be tough his euro trash team mates wussed out and left him hanging, like when pierce dunked on him and kicked him in the nuts, your leader is on the floor and your sitting there watching while the only person willing to do anything is injured (Reggie Evans)
    so Bosh isnt usually tough but hes never had back up , so now its weird to him

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Word, Eboy? I didn’t know Wolverine was a small cat.
    And OK, if I really had to be honest, I’d probably be scared of Tiny Lister.
    Deebo is scary as sh*t.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    karma….are you kin to dude, ’cause it’s pretty odd that you would be standing up for the guy as if you shared the same blood? Talking ball is cool and all and ‘repping your team/downtalking other’s, pointing out player deficiencies is cool and all (we all do that), but acting like his outside life and his trangressions is some kind of crusade you should be taking up for is a bit awkward, no? Just saying.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I wouldn’t fu*k with Brock Lesner, even with my sturdiest baseball bat in hand.

  • MUBWAR

    Hey Performer that was a cheap shot by Pierce and I was so frustrated that no 1 except 4 Evans who was on the bench went to Paul’s face. Now you see where the raps at without Bosh. Sad, just sad

  • JTaylor21

    It fits laker fans well that they are fans of the biggest rat this side of the mississippi. Once a rat is always a rat. You can put lipstick on a rat, but it’s still a rat.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Yeah, Lesnar’s no joke, although my fellow Chicano Velasquez whooped that ass.
    Ronnie Coleman. Yeah, I wouldn’t f*ck with Ronnie Coleman unless I had an assault rifle on me.

  • the nerve

    I’ll fuk lesnar up 2. dat n!99a aint tuff man

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    Alistair Overeem – if you don’t know him, look him up and you’ll be adding him to your do not mess with list too. As for the story itself, I can see where KD’s coming from. I’m sure Bosh never talked, and didn’t appreciate being trash talked to, when his Raptors were getting blown out game after game. Now that he’s moved up in the world and has two big brothers to back up his talk, he has a short memory. It would bug me too.

  • r2j

    Look, Durant is 0-6 against Lebron. That’s no different from Lebron losing to Carmelo Anthony when Cleveland and Denver met. Durant did score a lot and if Eddie House wasn’t being a doushe about it and didn’t do SQUAT!!! until those final 3 minutes then It could’ve gone OKC’s way.
    Bosh on the other hand, I’ll admit he needed to speak up on that comment. If someone said “Dunk on him” to me or anyone else then I’m sure you would turn your head around like the excercist and say “I know you ain’t talking about dunking on me?”
    In the end it’s all love and war. 2 players reppin’ their 2 teams. However, if I’m OKC
    I’m really looking forward to the rematch.

  • backboard

    love how karma completely owned Eboy and he never came back, just totally ignoring the topic. I did it so many times over the years and he never said anything. dude is 40 yrs old, fighting kids on the internet. haha, get a grip clifford!

  • the nerve

    n where dat bichassn!gga jukai? I aint c dat muthafukka up here cryin yet. snich.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Who are you, exactly? Funny how you know a lot about me and I know nothing about you….stalker.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Diesel – alls I remember about Overeem is that he caught a lot of L’s in Pride FC. Did he get a lot better now?
    And as fas as MMA fighters, Fedor Emilianenko and Anderson Silva are the two on my “unf*ckwithable” list.

  • karma

    lol @ Jtaylor talking like he’s a mobster. You’re 14 years old dude, relax. The first chance you got to save your own hide, you’d rat on everything around you. Also, why are you losing sleep over Kobe ratting out Shaq and why did you even bring it up? To respond to Eboy: No, I’m not kin to Kobe, I’m simply refuting your point. Its funny cause everyone assumes Laker fans to be about 10 years old and unintelligent, but when someone actually engages in debates with those who like to pick on Laker fans intelligently, somehow its “too far” or I act like I “know him”.

  • karma

    People like to talk about that case, without actually reading up on it. There’s a reason the girl was quick to settle out of court; believe it.

  • the nerve

    silva my n!gga

  • the nerve

    reason that ho settled cuz she broke man. gtfoh. kobe gat all in dat azz too. blood on tha n!gga drawz n all dat. dat muthafukka name is mike tyson!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    yeah Enigmatic, in Pride he fought at 205. Since then he must have been juicing for like 2 years straight because the dude needs to cut down to get to 265 now. He’s been knocking out heavyweights left and right. He has the Strikeforce, K1, and Dream heavyweight belts at the moment. I don’t know how close you’re following the UFC but they had some up and commer heavyweight named Todd Duffee. Overeem fought him in Japan and knocked him out in 30 seconds. Youtube some of his recent fights.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    There’s also a reason the defendant paid out several million to MAKE it go away.

  • karma

    You really believe that a professional athlete, and a cat who was as popular as Kobe, and who could literally get any groupie he wants, would need sex that badly that he would risk putting his career on the burner to get the p*ssy THAT bad – to literally force himself on a woman? Think about it.

  • karma

    Its not like he was pulling a Rothelisberger and was drunk. He was sober.

    Its akin to Tupac “raping” a girl in 94 – that’s not possible, the dude stood up for too much concerning women to do that.

  • http://Mrjones21901@aol.com Run’n'Gun219

    jtaylor. how did kobe rat? and who did he rat on? please tell me you are not talking about that shaq sh1t…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I also have to think about a guy that held a press conference, in tears, that told of his cheating, being less than credible. I’m not sure what part of that you might have missed when it was aired, but it happened.

  • karma

    Given how image conscious he was at the time, and the fact that his superstardom was quite heavy, plus the se.xual actions of the girl after the alleged assault – there is no way dude is guilty.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And if he was just trying to save face, it backfired (at least at THAT time).

  • the nerve

    yeah. sh!t got hot in that room w/the hnic’s. shtt got hot n the lil n!gga be like BUT SHAQ GIT 2 PAY OFF HIS HOS! y I CANT PAY THIS BICH??!! nicka aint hood. sound like yall lil pissboy juks. yea im in his azz 2 day. n!gga aint even new money. grandpappy dun left the money to his lazy livin w/his daddy ass. aint even self made. wonder if dat nucka related 2 ryan leaf. nicka sound like hin when he cry. LEAVE ME ALOOOONE! Im RICH!!! yea i said ur name up here. i dare u 2 put my sh!t up here. u wannabee sam rothsteen muthafukka.

  • karma

    I’m not supporting him being in that scenario. He was obviously wrong to agree with the girl to consensual sex when he had a wife and a kid waiting. But people act as if he is the only professional athlete who cheats. No, he’s one of the few that got caught publicly. The girl exploited the situation, and he was trapped. She played it smart – he did not.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I also look at like this: if dude was able to part with a few mill to make homegirl go away…he could have easily put out a mill or two for legal fees and a top flight defense team in a civil matter to clear his name….in the court of public opinion.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    Celebrities and companies settle out of court all the time to make bad publicity go away. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re guilty. They’re just weighing the price of paying to make it go away vs fighting it in court and having your name out there in a negative light for a long time. It hurts business/endorsements. And if we’re talking about credibility in the Kobe case, we have to mention the accuser having THREE different men’s DNA on her underwear.

  • karma

    I’m not speaking in absolutes btw – sorry for the tone of my last post. I’m saying, given the circumstances, his position, and the evidence regarding the woman, I don’t buy it.

  • karma

    @ Diesal – That’s my main point. The girl backed off when knowing that her sexual history was going to be called in question on trial.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Diesel, c’mon kid. YOU know that’s generic bullsh*t. Stop it. As soon as ESPN ran the name Eagle County & possible r*pe in their headlines, dude’s name was discolored. There WAS not turning back at that point. The damage was done. You usually try to settle out of court BEFORE sh*t hits the press if you are a company/brand. He had all the right people and the financial backing to make that happen. It was a misstep on his P.R. people’s part….however they were at the time.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    however=whoever.

  • karma

    Though the transcripts from the Smoking Gun were hilarious, and brutally honest. I actually believe the guy – call me niave, but a dude in his position would not need to r*pe for sex.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Kevin Durant is kind of in the wrong here. He was all p!ssed off and moping because Bosh gave Harden a hard foul–which wasn’t even that bad of a foul. Pshh.

  • the nerve

    now that i think bout it i think i ran thru her too at some point. i gotta look her up she might b 1 of my hos

  • http://twincityslim@yahoo.com Jahi

    Durant at the least has good sounbytes. He owned Bosh with that excerpt, “There are a lot of fake tough guys in this league, He is one of them.” Hilarious. Too many ball players want to be “thugs”. Play ball, and shut the f*** up unless you have something worthwhile to speak about.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I have no loyalties in the Bron vs Kobe debates, but I could definitely see Kobe’s people advising him to just pay the girl and make this go away as fast as possible. Then go out there and win the public back by winning games. The faster you get it over with the faster you can get back to winning over the public. Say Kobe did fight it. I’m guessing it would have taken about a year. That’s an entire year his name would be associated with the whole ordeal. Then he’d have to spend another year winning the public over again. The way it ended up playing out, Kobe had almost completely restored his image after that first year’s time. And from what I’ve seen in the media, the clearing of someone’s name never gets as much publicity as the initial accusation, so I’m sure that weighed in on the decision as well. I don’t know if Kobe’s guilty or not, but I don’t think him settling definitely proves anything. That being said, I also don’t support the thought process of “Kobe wouldn’t need to r*pe anyone”. People do stupid things for stupid reasons. I don’t put anything past anyone.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    This is incredibly stupid.

  • JTaylor21

    Oh no, I’m far from being a mobster but I do know that I’m not a rapist, a rat, a copycat and a faker which is all something that your idol excels in.

  • karma

    Nice on Jtaylor. I’m shook – there’s no comeback for something as definitive as that!

  • karma

    ** one

  • Michael

    I would seriously consider parting with a few mil to make it all go away if i were on NBA money even if i was innocent. Dude was trying to reconcile with his family and all that, a drawn out court case would have been the worst thing for it.

  • the nerve

    nicka was bout 2 b in the same clink i b in. im out bichez! peace eboy

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I have read countless times on here how people judge Bron solely on his skills on the court…….

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Damn that chick had THREE dude’s stuff in her underwear?
    “Yous a ho, you know yous a ho. How do you know? Cause the panties said so”. Word to Ice Cube, pre-family friendly version.

  • Michael

    @Jtaylor, you said somewhere on here yesterday that you dont hate Kobe, Do you still maintain that? cause its bullsh*t dude, your obsessed with the guy, your always on here spitting out random sh*t about him. What did he do to you?

  • the nerve

    ^he tried to holla at his shawty. nah taylor u my ni99a

  • karma

    “I have read countless times on here how people judge Bron solely on his skills on the court……” It is….until JTaylor decided to randomly mention Kobe’s 2003 charges, then it was open season.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Ironic, isn’t it, karma.
    Seems there is a double standard for Kobe.

  • the nerve

    man fuk kobe

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Thought you were gone for the day?

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    dumb

  • Michael

    not gonna respond to that one Jtaylor? dont worry homie its cool, we expect that from you now.

  • the nerve

    i know man. yall nickas keep bringin me back. but now im out. u aiight allball

  • tRay

    NBA players are b*tches I’m sorry not matter who got in my face I’m not backing down from anybody. Chumps jump up to get beat down lol I’m just saying don’t talk sh*t if you’re gonna throw down.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    And FYI: Men don’t r*pe because they are sexually deprived. How about you guys do some reading outside of sports articles. You might learn a thing or two about the subject. The ignorance is really astounding.

  • tRay

    **if you’re not gonna throw down my bad

  • Keith Bogans

    KD needs to relax….did you see how close he got to Bosh during that altercation, next time KD don’t get so close to Bosh, he has a family!

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    I’m starting to peep how slam moderators will take their sweet time posting comments when they actually have some value. Funny how my whole post disappeared but if I posted some random bs it would have gone right through without a problem. Smfh

  • karma

    @zoom: I get that – and I’m assuming you mean outside reasons such as for the sake of dominance or control (traits applicable to Kobe). I’m just analyzing the situation based on what he had to lose at the time, and his level of intelligence. Not to say that only stupid people commit crimes, obviously not, but to put his entire career at jeopardy (especially given how career-conscious the guy is), along with the girl’s se.xual actions following her act with Kobe doesn’t add up.

  • JTaylor21

    That wasn’t a comeback because I was stating facts. I don’t hate dude but I do hate his fans and the media. Those morons swear that dude is as good as MJ and some of them even think he’s better. Wouldn’t you hate them also?

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    Kobe did not r*pe that girl. She showed up with DNA from 5 different dudes to the medical examiner. That’s like believing a drug addict who just broke into the local pharmacy is clean

  • karma

    Nobody believes he’s better than MJ. You’re an idiot. People discuss for the sake of discussing – nothing is definitive.

  • karma

    You were stating facts? Really? Calling him a r.apist is not a fact – he was not charged as guilty. Calling him a rat is also not accurate – “ratting” would result in the “ratted” party to have criminal implications. A “copycat” is not a fact – all players use moves they learned from other players; its how you get better. Have you ever played sports before? Granted, Kobe was a bit strange earlier in his career, but why is it a negative that he liked MJ’s moves? They’re the same build, same type of skill set – why not? And calling him a “faker” is not a fact – its subjective and doesn’t even make sense in the context of what we were talking about. Boom, roasted. Now shut it.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    actually people on here have said he is definitely better then Jordan. I’ve seen it on multiple occasions

  • karma

    Then they’re stupid and shouldn’t be taken seriously. The younger kids likely think he’s better – anyone who’s capable of reasonable thought and a little research will tell you other wise. Kobe’s individual stats, nor his overall stats match up to Jordan’s. My issue is people painting Kobe as this super villain that needs to be knocked down at every peg, regardless of the accomplishment.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    The Gracies weren’t THAT great. They brought a martial art that was tailor made for Karatekas and Judo guys and went to the bank with it. Generally when they fought other grappler guys they lost. When EVERYONE started learning grappling (and the sport became true MMA), they simply couldn’t compete.
    True stuff.
    Fedor used to be a badass but he’s become a wimp cause he’s too worried about his pristine record.
    Silva is the best mixed martial artist in history. He has it all: Boxing timing, kickboxing attack power, a masterful skillset of BJJ and Judo means he’s impossible to grapple, the flexibility of a Tae Kwon Do guy, not to mention he’s specifically trained with Lyoto Machida with that whole stance/footwork stuff? He’s unbeatable. Like, a lot of guys have trained in some martial arts, even have belts, but they don’t really know the stuff once they get into the ring. Anderson Silva literally takes the stuff and adds it to his repertoire. I can’t see Belfort lasting more than one round.
    So uh, what was this thread about?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Without the Gracies MMA wouldn’t be what it is today. True story.
    And Anderson Silva has improved TREMENDOUSLY over the years. First time I watched him he was submitted by a traingle choke in a Pride FC fight by some Japanese dude and I didn’t think twice about him until he started whoppin’ on cats in the UFC.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    @ karma and everyone else: You’re entitled to your opinions but NONE of you know what you are talking about when it comes to why a r*pist r*pes, or what type of woman is and should be considered a victim. The comments on why he may or may not be guilty are flat out dumb. Comments about whether or not she’s a victim based how promiscuous she is are beyond stupid. How does it even make sense? I could see if she was a known liar, but a perp doesn’t care if a woman is a wh*re or not. You dudes should just stick to basketball.

  • karma

    Then enlighten us, genius. My point wasn’t that she’s lying because she was promiscuous – you need to read more. I said she’s more prone to lying based on the timing of her encounter with Kobe, and other men who were found on her loins in the given time vicinity. You don’t find it odd that someone who is screaming “r.ape” was found with the stains of multiple men in a 3 day period? R.ape kits are given what, 24-72 hours following the proposed assault, no? In that case, it means that within the 3 days (or however long she took a break between the encounter and the r.ape kit), there were 3 different men in contact with her se.xually. Someone screaming “r.ape” would not be doing that. There’s a difference between promiscuity and questionable circumstances.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign zoom.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I agree the Gracie’s helped make MMA what it is today, but I have to side with Jukai and say that once true mixed martial artists started taking shape and learning to defend submissions and stuff takedowns, the Gracies lost their luster. Everyone else has evolved into complete fighters and they’re still just jujitsu guys. Roger Gracie is like thier prized jewel at the moment and he couldn’t strike to save his life. Anderson Silva is at his best as a counter striker. He needs someone to bring the fight to him in order to be effective. He has no game plan if the guy he’s fighting doesn’t bum rush him. GSP is the most complete fighter with the most complete strategies to accompany the skill.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Ken shamrock

  • Byebye

    Kobe did fux that girl raw tho
    Kd needs proativ before he starts acting tough

  • Byebye

    Labron 3 str8t mvps lol
    Gotta love labron

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Yeah, it’s true the Gracies aren’t what they used to be, ever since Kazushi Zakuraba started taking them down one by one. I still contend Rikson Gracie in his prime though woulda beaten damn near any of these new-school MMA fighters. Dude could grapple, strike, you name it.

  • JTaylor21

    MMA sucks, there I said it. I much rather watch friday night fights than any sorry a** MMA bull on ppv.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    To each their own, JTaylor. But most MMA fighters would whoop most boxers.
    To me, when I see boxing, all I see is two dudes hugging each other nonstop.

  • Justin

    It’s amazing how many idiots there are on this site. Everyone always thinks, maybe based on the headlines, that these guys just come out and start saying things about other players. He was asked a question about the verbal exchange by a reporter and he answered. Anyone in the NBA would have reacted the same way Bosh did. Simply saying “no, he ain’t gonna dunk on me” or whatever is minor. Oakley would have said “He tries to dunk on me and that b!tch won’t wake up til next week and he’ll have a tube in his mouth”. Another shiny example of how the people on this site just react to headlines and how SLAM keeps writing them like this because they know what kind of idiotic things are going to be said afterwards

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, I feel ya but I think that boxing is more skill while MMA is more about brute force. I mean if you were allowed to kick, hold and choke, you probably could knock out someone easily but when forced to use your hands only it becomes that much harder. Most boxers would probably get whooped inside the octagon but put them up against an MMA fighter in a ring and I’m betting the MMA guy leaves in a stretcher.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    I mean, there’s a lot of skill involved in MMA. You just have to know what to look for. It’s kind of like football, if you don’t know what’s going on, you swear it’s just dudes beating up each other.
    I’m not sure about a stretcher, but yeah I concede most MMA guys would not hang with pro boxers in a boxing ring.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    Since slam won’t let me post my comments that possed no profanity or vulgarities, I can’t rebutle but I’ll keep trying to post my responses.

  • HAMMER

    Both boxing and mma to me r just non-sensical. Boxing is dead. Even a pac vs mayweather couldn’t resusitate it. And mma? It basically is a legal streetfight. That’s all it is

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    Btw excuse the typos

  • robb

    ^^^^^ you don’t know anything about boxing and MMA chump, shut up. “And mma? It basically is a legal streetfight. That’s all it is” the stupidest thing I’ve read in a while.

  • ClydeSays

    Are we really gonna get a player transcription of every bit of trash talk on the court now? Who cares? Shut up and play.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Engimatic: No doubt, the Gracies MADE UFC, and in turn that brought out Pride. We can thank the Gracies for MMA. But they are so set in their ways, they don’t want to learn boxing or muay thai or kyokushin. And Yeah, Rickson was probably the best Gracie, but you’re MASSIVELY overrating his striking (weren’t his stirkes mostly dumb Sambo hammer strikes?) and the dude lies about his record on a near Urquidez-like level. 200-0 my ass. You know he’s not really undefeated, right? Some Sambo guy beat him, but Rickson claims it doesn’t count because he didn’t really know about the rules (AKA too much striking).
    I mean, look at what Rickson has trained in: BJJ, Judo, Akido, Sambo, submission (or maybe catch?) wrestling…. he’d probably wreck shop on the level of Damian Maia (all BJJ), but I can’t see him dominating like Silva/GSP.
    Diesel: I think you’re underrating Silva a bit there. Silva doesn’t just go out and straight ATTACK, but it’s not like he’s only a counter-attacker ala Lyoto… dude picks up the lead then sits on it. He’s on the top because he plays MMA like a sport, and not a life-or-death match. I think GSP is closer to Silva than people think, but let’s take in what is actually said: GSP said if he fought Silva and won, he’d retire right away because he’d have beaten the best of all time. Quote. Silva is more talented.
    Tarzan: I hate the Shamrocks, blef.
    JTaylor21: I love MMA, the grapplers can be boring but there’s just more elements to it. And it’s true: Randy Couture OBLITERATED James Toney in the Octogon, and Anderson Silva really hasn’t look all that great in the ring, losing to some nobody from Brazil.

  • JTaylor21

    I know see what MMiller brings to a team because I haven’t seen him play that much before. Dude is a very good rebounder, a good passer, and is always hustling. He’s one of those guys coaches love to rave about bringing intangibales to a team. If Haslem returns before the playoffs, Mia could have a decent bench with him, MM, JJ, EHouse, and Arroyo. Also I love what EHouse brings to this team.

  • Michael

    Jtaylor @ 5.34pm – fair enough dude, although i would say if those fans and media believe he is as good as or better then MJ im pretty sure nothing you say will convince them otherwise so why not just leave it be.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, James Freaking Tony, really? I mean let’s at least wait until a boxer of the same caliber of a Anderson Silva goes to fight in th MMA before we start making assumptions. Also would you rather pay to watch a great boxing bout or a great MMA fight?

  • JTaylor21

    Micheal, I feel ya but it’s so hard to resist. I’m not the biggest MJ fan but when I hear the same BS every single day, it grind my gears.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: James Tony was a bit washed up but still held MULTIPLE championships in many weight divisions. He fought Randy Couture, who is five years older and had to gain weight for the bout. He didn’t fight Brock Lesnar or Cain Velasquez, he fought a second-level heavyweight who really should only fight in lightheavy (and if you’re not familiar with MMA weight divisions, there’s a big difference in weight).
    And he got beat without throwing a punch. I mean, it was a f*cking clinic on how to take apart a boxer: Couture jumped for the leg, slammed Tony, then pummeled him until Tony was having trouble defending himself and armbarred the dude. It was so damn gratifying.
    And I’m a massive MMA fan, and I sort of find boxing boring so uh, you’d best find a more casual fan to ask that question to.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    And on that note, Randy Couture and Lyoto Machida should be a fantastical bout.

  • Michael

    im feeling you on that Jukai, Machida is my dude, im also a massive MMA fan so i wont get into the argument with boxing at all because I have never been a massive fan of it, Boxings best years were over before ny time. I will say though there is a lot more skill and technique in MMA then most people realise, I mean, can anyone here roundhouse kick a trained fighter in the head? The speed and precision required to do that is ridiculous, and thats just one technique.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Michael: I’m warming to Machida. Dude beat the HELL out of Rampage, but lost fair and square, haha, odd how that can happen. I don’t think his style is cut out for UFC, he’s a pride fighter because he’s defensive and saves his best for one round.

  • Michael

    that was a strange fight, i was pretty undecided since they are both my two favourite fighters. Ever since i saw Jackson powerbomb Arona he has been probably my favourite. That was just ridiculous show of strength.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, I guess you enjoy watching two grown men rolling around and grabbing each other (I kidd) Anyways, my boy used to watch MMA a lot and every now and then I would take a sit and try to watch also but I get no excitement watching it. Boxing will be back though I’m sure but the problem is that the two biggest boxers are scared of each other and won’t fight. Just imagine if Ali refused to fight foreman and frazier. Legendary bouts like the thrilla in manila or rumble in the jungle would have never happended.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor21: Boxing fights are too long for me, they drone on and after a while, as you mentioned, it’s just two grown men grabbing each other. There’s also too many weight divisions so there are too many nobodies, and being a champion means nothing.
    I like the rounds in MMA, it’s five minute rounds, 3 of them (five for a championship round).
    I’d pay to see Mayweather vs Pacquiao though

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    jukai, the problem with boxing is that the idiots running the sport are too greedy. they don’t expose it the way mma does. with that said, the casual fan like you doesn’t get to see (or know about) the really great fights. just to name a few great fights that went under the radar in the past decade:
    all 3 ward & gotti fights
    all of vasquez & marquez
    pac & marquez I & II
    barrera & morales
    martinez & williams
    just go on youtube and search for highlights from any of those. currently, the 140 division is prime to explode cause 1-10 all of those guys can probably beat each other. but since none of them are household names, you probably don’t know

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    the other problem is the promotions often won’t let their fighters fight other fighters from rival promotions because they’re scared of their fighter losing and being less of a cash cow. see mayweather for example. as soon as he left bob arum’s promotion, suddenly he can’t get a fight since nearly all of his top rivals were under bob arum.
    i really hate how corrupt the sport has become, and admire how dana white is handling ufc

  • Justin

    How corrupt it’s become? It’s been corrupt for a long, long time. Not sure how this turned into an MMA discussion btw.

  • http://twitter.com/aif03 aif03

    Kevin Durant & Chris Bosh beefin is a fight between 2 of the most malnourished players in the NBA.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    davidR: Dana White may have his hand a LITTLE too much in the sport. Take Machida for example— Machida beat Rua, yet White thought Machida should have lost and scheduled a rematch right away. Rampage beat Machida and white agreed with the outcome. Yet the controversy and outcry for a rematch from the general MMA fans were nearly equal.
    As a promoter though, Dana White is GENIUS. And when he wants talent, he GETS it— Fedor being the only exception (but Fedor’s a b*tch, so, you know).

  • http://nba.com EJ

    Fake tough guy? Well I can see that, cause he’s also a fake guy.

  • K.a.

    Should call bosh dangerfield cuz he gets no respect

  • kulas

    I don’t know about you guys there in the states but here in asia, MMA and boxing are both liked and there’s a crossover of fans from one sport to the other. We know that a boxing guy will beat an MMA guy in a boxing match but a boxing guy even on the level of manny, mayweather, or klitschko would get beaten in an mma fight. The stances in an mma fight and a boxing match are different, because you are defending against the takedown. You have a wider base, so you can defend when your opponent shoots. Wider base affects your reach etc etc. MMA is interesting because it’s like a chess match, there are so many ways to win that having a 9 or 10 fight win streak is already an accomplishment. What I like in MMA is that “ducking” an opponent happens less frequently and is much more difficult to do, unlike in boxing.

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