Monday, January 31st, 2011 at 8:43 am  |  149 responses

Post Up: All Together Now

Celtics down Lakers; Heat defeat Thunder.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Miami 108, Oklahoma City 103

A busy, busy day of hoops tipped in OKC, with the visiting Heat taking down the Thunder in a close one. These two battled down to the final minutes, and both groups were trading clutch buckets and in need of clutch stops till the final buzzer. But when LeBron James passed up a three—cue Internet riot—and found a wide open Eddie House, who drained the trey, it gave Miami a lead they wouldn’t let go. Kevin Durant put the Thunder on his back, scoring 33, while Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook combined for 44. The Thunder had their chances, though, and their inability to get key stops down the stretch and get an opportunity to go up by more than a point or two made all the difference. For Miami, Dwyane Wade was great, putting up 32, while Bron scored 23 and dished 13. After the contest, Durant called Chris Bosh one of the “fake tough guys” (#noshots??), so make of that what you’d like. The next time these two face off, things might get even more interesting—though if these 48 minutes of basketball didn’t bring you satisfaction, I don’t really know what to tell you.

Boston 109, L.A. Lakers 96

A lot of people were pretty excited for this. Kevin Garnett even wore some special sneakers. Unfortunately, the non-Kobe Bryant members of the Lakers didn’t seem to care too much, and they kinda just left their leader hanging. Kobe dropped 41, but it wasn’t enough, as the other LA starters and the bench brought zero firepower, and the deeper and more well-rounded Celts took advantage. Paul Pierce scored 32, Kevin Garnett (who was cut up and required five mid-game head stitches) went for 18 and 13, and Ray Allen added 21 in the victory. The C’s just wouldn’t miss, shooting 60.3 percent (!) from the floor in the victory. Afterwards, Phil Jackson acknowledged that his team isn’t where it needs to be yet, but said he thinks it will be by the time the Playoffs get going. And you know what? I believe him.

Orlando 103, Cleveland 87

Twenty. An important number for both teams. For the Magic: Dwight Howard’s 20 points and 20 boards, which, given the amount of interior domination those numbers tend to imply, means a win for Orlando. For the Cavs? Their 20th straight loss, just three away from the NBA’s record consecutive losses. Eek. Ryan Anderson led the Magic (word?) with 23 points, while Manny Harris put in 20 for the Cavs.

Philadelphia 110, Denver 99

One of the biggest problems with the Nuggets—and presumably one of the reasons their leader wants out—is when Carmelo Anthony has an off game, the chances they’re getting a W are close to nil. Proof: last night. Melo scored just 12, as the Sixers had six guys go for double figures en route to the win. The loss is Denver’s first in five contests. Tonight, Melo and Co. hit…yep, Jersey, where, as you can imagine, the media will be waiting and want some answers. The questions? Well, come on. Take a guess.

New York 124, Detroit 106

One difference between this Knicks team and the past bunch of them: They close games. Not the way the League’s very best do, but they are definitely getting better and better at that little and wildly important character trait. This battle was all tied up going into the final quarter, when the Knickerbockers took off behind a bunch of Amar’e Stoudemire (33 points) dunks and Danilo Gallinari (29 points) jumpers. Oh, and check this: Timofey Mozgov! Dude managed 23 points and 14 rebounds, taking advantage of the minutes he was given as Wilson Chandler sat out with a sore calf. Ben Gordon led the Pistons with 35 in the loss.

Phoenix 104, New Orleans 102

The Suns played a solid game, one that looked like it was all but wrapped up. But an eight-point last minute lead was thiiis close to being blown, as a big Chris Paul three and a couple free throws tightened it up, and a CP3 off-balanced buzzer-beater would’ve given the Bees a victory—had it fallen in. But fall in it did not, and the Hornets dropped their second straight after piling up 10 W’s in a row. Marcin Gortat scored 25 for PHX, while Paul put in a game-high 26.

Golden State 96, Utah 81

With Deron Williams out with a hyperextended wrist, the Jazz never really threatened the Warriors, losing a little ground each quarter all the way through. Monta Ellis (2 points) struggled horribly, but Stephen Curry (27 points, 7 dimes) had his back, picking up the backcourt slack for Golden State. For the Jazz, well, their problems had an obvious root: They really need their All-Star point guard. Straight up.

Actual Stats: Dwight Howard: 20 points, 20 boards, 2 assists, 2 blocks

Moment of the Night: LeBron finds an open Eddie House, and then…

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  • http://yahoo.com The Ambassador

    As a Laker fan I don’t know how much of this losing I can take. The Lakers got blown out by the Heat, the Spurs,and now now lost an important game to the Celtics. I agree with Kulchakris both Fisher and Artest combined for 2-16 man if i was Kobe i would not even acknowledge that Fisher and Artest were playing! Gasol and Bynum got owned by the Celtics Big men. I know Kobe didnt get no assist but why is he going to pass the ball to the people that are getting handled and are not playing with intensity. The Laker bench was just horrible too. Steve Blake should be traded he has not played well after the Hot Laker start in the start of the season. Shannon Brown also needs to step up too. All being said Lakers need to step up if they want to go the Finals.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I thought Phil Jackson was never at fault.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    Kobe should pass the ball more for the simple fact that the Lakers are better when he does.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    happy day for a celtics fan yesterday. everyone pretty much had it going. even shaq who fouled out after 12 minutes managed to squeeze in six boards and two blocks. love massive the rebounding advantage for the celtics, since that was their achilles heel last year. as for the lakers, it’s tough to give kobe the bulk of the blame. the guy had 41 points, and he took good, efficient shots. the problem is that he came out firing and looking to establish himself early rather than getting his teammates involved. he’s not wrong for doing that, but it seems like when he does that, the rest of the teams stops thinking about what they need to do and starts watching kobe go to work. give credit to the celtics bigs, though, for keeping pau and bynum from becoming major factors. that garnett-gasol matchup was looking like ’08.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Also, when you lose close games, with shi*ty strategies, it’s on the coach. No one expects you to have basketball knowledge, Diesel. That’s why you never were asked to contribute to some “stupid blog”. Zing!

  • T-Money

    Ugh. Every situation is different and needs to be analyzed separatly, there’s no magic formula that can be applied across the board. (and this has nothing to do with Bron, why is he even being mentioned?) Kobe had an excellent shooting night yesterday but Boston can’t be beat by one guy. Taking 11 shots in a row is just too much, every one that has ever played organized basketball know that you need to let a big get his touches if you want him to defend, rebound and play aggressively for you. Bigs aren’t like guards, they can’t get touches unless they’re fed. It’s Kobe’s responsibility as the leader of the Lakers to feed his bigs.

  • T-Money

    Diesel: those are stupid analogies. Watch the games, then decide who messed up and who deserves praises. The Xmas game wasn’t Kobe’s fault. Bron is about the only one who played well in the Celtics games, Wade played like -ss. Against NYK this weekend, it was Bron that sucked and Wade that played well. This tit for tat ish is ridiculous.

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    so… noone knows the Heats “big three” individual records against Melo? i’ll help u out, there all below 500

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    T, when this kind of statement is made ‘ when your the leader, its always on you’, then I am going to look for similar situations as a reference point.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Thanks for that, LaLa.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    Meloman – the heats big three are on the same team now, why don’t you tell me Melo’s record against Denver, because that’s just as relevant.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    T, 11 shots in a row is only too much if you’re not making them all! Seriously though, you’re correct, run an offensive play, and get a good shot instead of taking high degree of difficulty contested jumpers. All that said, I still maintain that the Lakers lost because the Celtics are a better team.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I did watch the game T-money, and I agree that everyone else on the lakers was playing soft, slow, intimidated, I don’t know. I watched pau and Bynum get beat down the court 3 times in the 4th quarter when the game was on the line. So I blame the players or the coach for not making a change. I don’t blame Kobe for recognizing their lack of effort and asserting himself. Apparently that means I don’t have basketball knoweledge in Eboy’s spin-happy world.

  • T-Money

    Diesel, all I’m saying is that when the playoffs roll around, if the bigs aren’t clicking and Kobe goes into eff it mode and scores 50 a game… LA will still lose. You ain’t winning without your bigs so it would it be in LA’s best interest to get them going by any means. If that means sacrificing a shot here and there, that’s the right play!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    And Eboy – Do you really want to cover that all again after I chose to take the high road with you the first time?

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    I get EBoy’s point that the leader assumes blame for losses. But the Lakers didn’t lose solely because Kobe took 29 shots. Being outrebounded by 13 and out-assisted by 24 were bigger factors in the outcome. Plus, the bigs running uphill on defensive transition plays didn’t help either.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    T-money – My opinion is you go for the win in this game so that you can possibly have some sort of physiological advantage for the next game. Last night’s game wasn’t the game to try and get Pau back on track. You get your bigs rolling in an easier game and build up their confidence for next time.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    I think the Lakers lost because they were out of rhythm and were playin horrendous defense. I mean, Boston shot 60%, outrebounded LA by 13. Kobe shooting so much sure doesn’t help get anyone in rhythm but they just weren’t up to snuff anywhere last night. Doesn’t really matter, they will be fine in the playoffs.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    cosign the hell out of t-money @11:39. it’s stupid to bring up lebron or the heat in this discussion. also, anyone notice what a let down steve blake has been? wasn’t he supposed to be a solid pick up? can’t believe how he let rondo cut to the basket for an absolutely-no-one-within-ten-feet lay up in crunch time.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Diesel, you took the high road? For real? I took the high road. Let’s not revise silly commenting history. You said there’s desperate people that wished they were SLAM writers and you referenced them as morons. You were told you were incorrect in your assumptions. You threw my name out and said you didn’t mean me. Whatever, Diesel. It’s all good. I’m done with it too.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    lightsout, have you picked and chosen what comments to read?
    If someone says that it is ALWAYS the leaders responsibility, then it should be apparent why I brought up Bron.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    i don’t remember who i was talking about this with, but whoever it was, the is why LeBron should be Miami’s closer and not Wade, right there in that last play. Wade is probably just as clutch a scorer as LeBron, but when it gets down to that point that’s what he is going to do, LeBron on the other hand is just as likely to find a wide open teammate. Which is why IMO LeBron should, already is, and will be Miami’s closer. Even if it takes Wade a while to come to grips with it

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    Eboy – you threw your own name out there and I said I din’t have a problem with you..and that I apologize if I offended you. So yes, I consider that taking the high road.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    nbk, there’s the flip side though….if he takes the shot and misses it, he’s not clutch, he’s a piece of sh*t, he should have passed it to a wide open Eddie House. You’ve got to take what’s there. He made a great basketball play. Like he did in the famous instance when he gave up the ball to a wide open Donyell Marshall (who missed) in a lat-game situation. He’s a better facilitator at an end of game moment. He will pass the ball to an open teammate. Dwyane is looking to score. He’s in that Michael/Kobe mode in that moment. Who’s the better option. Depends on how you like your basketball, I guess.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    If he missed that shot, know one would have said ‘he should have passed to Eddie House’. If he passed to Eddie House and Eddie missed the shot, then it would have been ‘Bron is scared of the big shot’, ‘Bron’s a ….’.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    @AllBall: actually, Eboy brought up LeBron.

  • T-Money

    E: D-Wade took a terrible step back jumper. We’re not talking about it because MM got the board. What I want from D-Wade and Bron is to attack the rim in those late game situations and dish out to better, wide open shooters if they’re met with resistance at the rim – not to take the long jumpers themselves.

  • ClydeSays

    Nice win by Boston. Not sure LA should panic, but they do have a tougher schedule in the 2nd half. We’ll see…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    T, Dwyane almost always tries that step-back J…and has had game-winning success with it numerous times. I’m fine with that shot, but when the playoffs come around and they wind up in a similar situation, I agree 100%, they need to force the defense to adjust instead of settling.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    To change it up for a second….prayers to Stuart Scott and his family. Just read he’s having to fight cancer again for a second time. He may be annoying sometimes, but the dude is a broadcast staple and a part of our NBA watching world.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    As for that last play by Lebron – he passed up a wide open 3 to pass to Eddie House, who was actually less open then Lebron was. Depending on who you’re a fan of you’re going to interpret that play how you want.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    LONG… LIVE… THE KING!

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    both were wide open, House is the better shooter, LeBron made the right decision. And Eboy – I will always prefer the player that will get me the highest % shot. And the Kobe, MJ mold of player doesn’t generally do that. FE – Look at all those Kobe is not so clutch articles that were posted on ESPN and SI on Friday.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I saw that article, nbk. Kobe lovers must have either committed on-line suicide or chose to ignore it. But again, stats are misleading…..unless it benefits your favorite player!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    And, co-sign Eboy regarding Stuart Scott.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    My favorite player is Gilbert Arenas lol, I know that stat doesn’t benefit him

  • izzo

    The only conclusive thing the whole Kobe clutch debate has shown is that even experienced sportswriters with a supposed depth of knowledge and enough perspective to claim credibility turn into obsequious fanboys whenever their heroes are apparently dissed.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I read that crap and its silly. But its not suprising finding that it came from ESPN and the guy who wrote it isn’t a big Kobe fan. Further proof that some stats are just ridiculous. Anyone who watch bball know who clutch Kobe is in the end of a game. i.e last season he had like six buzzer beaters. But people will believe what they wanna believe. I trust my eyes more than I do some stupid stat.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    yeah because all of his misses make sportscenter

  • T-Money

    Diesel: House was wide open. It’s Eddie House, one of the quickest trigger in the NBA – the defender didn’t bother that shot one bit. If you want to get on Bron for deferring to a better 3-point shooter than him in that situation, feel free. I thought it was the right play, regardless of the outcome.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    its not just one guys stats/conclusion…. 82games.com /1011 /CSORT11 – and he (henry abbot) didn’t say Kobe is bad in the clutch, he just isn’t as great as everyone tries to make him out to be. Just because he got more game winner opportunities then everyone else, and made some of them last season everyone talks about him like he’s larry bird with the game on the line. he’s not, its fine, doesn’t make him a worse player, doesn’t mean the Lakers aren’t a great team, just means Kobe isn’t the best clutch scorer in the world…..only the bravest

  • T-Money

    Kap: I’ll preface my comment with saying that I actually believe that Kobe IS clutch. Now, he takes 100% of the crunch time shots for LA unless he’s REALLY trapped. Which means that all of LA’s buzzer beater opportunities will go to him and every single one of his makes will be remembered and none of his misses will be. What I mostly give props to Kobe for his always WANTING that shot. His ability to hit it in that situation however is not remarkable, in the sense that he doesn’t hit the fadeaway with more accuracy in the clutch than at any other time in the game.

  • http://dude Chukaz

    My Lakers have turned into garbage. I think we need a major trade. I think the only ppl that should be viewed as untouchable are Kobe, Bynum, Brown, Ebanks and Character. We need a real starting point guard who can defend pg n knock down 3s. I wouldn’t trade gasol but if we need to let him go in order to get rid of ron n get a good sf in return i’m all for it. I think the lakers should try to trade for Mayo. He could be our starting pg. I know he’s not really a pg, but kobe does a bunch of the ball handling anyways. Mayo could d up on pg n could knock down 3s plus the dude got heart unlike steve blake n fisher (fish got heart but he’s way too old). I think Iggy could be a good fit at sf. The lakers should not be allowed to use the midlevel exception cuz we always get garbage players with it

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    When Bron passed to Damon Jones for a game winner in the play-offs way back, I was loving it. That was back when I was in awe of Bron. That was after he had told Arenas he was going to hit the winning shot.
    Now I see Bron as someone who cares about stats and reputation, over winning.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    ^Not this year, AllBall.

  • http://dude Chukaz

    examples of garbage we’ve signed with the mid level exception: Steve Blake, Ron Artest, Sasha Vudkfja;lsdh, Luke Walton, Vlad Rad.
    I have a question, how is Steve Blake an upgrade over jordan farmar? Sure Farmar was shorter and not a great defender but its not like Blake is locking ppl up and Farmar was younger. Its like their thinking was “sure blake is older, but he makes up for it by being slower and less athletic. Makes sense if you don’t think about it” And Blake is a downgrade offensively too. Farmar could create his own shot and he wasn’t afraid to attack. All blake does is pop 3s n he’s not very good at it either

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Chukaz, I would not get rid of Fish. Every post season, he hits a big shot.

  • http://dude Chukaz

    I love fish. He’s like Laker royalty, but he’s getting old. I don’t think anybody would take his contract on a trade. I just need a starting quality pg. Fish can stay on the roster but he can’t start. He gets outplayed just about every night. The only teams with a worse starting pg are probably sacramento and minnesota

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Yeah, he has to be kept around, even if it’s just for the post-season.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Lakers fans always over react. They just won two championships in a row. Its the regular season and they can’t win forever. All good things gotta come to an end one day. But, Gasol has not been a consistent number one option this year. He plays bad on defense and he takes bad shots in the post. It’s time he starts getting blame since everyone was labeling him the best big in the game in the offseason.

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