Tuesday, January 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am  |  93 responses

Post Up: Two Dope Boys

Both LeBron and DWade score 30-plus in win.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Boston 96, Minnesota 93

First, the battle: Kevin Love (12 points, 24 rebounds) won that, absolutely obliterating Glen Davis (17 points, but only 1 rebound)—or all of the Celtics for that matter—on the boards. As per the usual, dude was a beast, grabbing every lose ball in sight. Boston finished with 30 rebounds, just a few more than Love himself, and to top it off, the TWolves forward didn’t pick up a single foul. Big Baby, on the contrary, had five by the first few minutes of the final quarter.

But the war went to the Celts, who played a strong fourth and held off the TWolves in the last minute. Michael Beasley put his team on his back and scored Minny’s last four buckets, but a Luke Ridnour traveling violation in the final seconds ended any chances of an upset. It seems safe to say that Rajon Rondo (6 points, 16 assists) is now officially back, while Paul Pierce led the team in scoring with 23. But if the KLove rebounding fiasco is of any indication, the C’s are gonna need a Kevin Garnett return ASAP.

Miami 96, Charlotte 82

I’ve used this space before to write about a key stat in defeating the Heat: the total number of points managed by Miami’s Three. The goal is to keep it closer to 60, and further away from 80, if you’re to stand any chance. Well last night LeBron James (38 points), Dwyane Wade (31) and Chris Bosh (11) combined for 80 on the dot—and that just about did it. The already-offensively-shaky Bobcats played without Gerald Wallace (bruised ankle), and were led by Captain Jack (22 points), who was one of only two double-digit scorers on the Cats. The Heat have now won 18 of 19, and will host Milwaukee tonight as they attempt to keep rolling along.

Orlando 110, Golden State 90

These are two of my favorite teams to watch, but I guess I would’ve been dreaming had I actuallyy thought they’d fight down to the wire. The Magic ran away with it in the second half, as Dwight Howard (22 points, 17 boards) played well down-low and Hedo Turkoglu (10 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists) played well everywhere to earn the victory. Can you imagine how happy Hedo is right now? It took a year and some change, but he got paid and still ended up right back where he wanted to be. The new-look Magic have now won six in a row, and they’ve got two more home games this week before they hit the road.

New Orleans 84, Philadelphia 77

Still without Andre Iguodala (who’s out for a few more games with tendinitis in his Achilles), the Sixers got a big night from, OK, nobody, as they went on to fall to the Hornets on the road. Philly shot just 34.1 percent (Evan Turner shot for 2-14 himself), and they had little-to-no offensive firepower whatsoever. It was still no runaway, and was close to the end, but a late Chris Paul basket caused the necessary separation and the Bees took it from there. New Orleans has now won three straight, and it looks like they’re trying to hold onto that playoff spot before it’s too late.

Denver 113, Houston 106

As two Western Conference squads who have certainly had their ups and down this season, this pair battled to the end, but the slightly-hotter Nuggets ended up taking it. Carmelo Anthony (33 points, 11 boards) has been getting going as of late, while Nene scored 16 and snatched 11 rebounds. The Nugs are in LA tomorrow night to face the Clips, while Houston will try to get its first win in a few games when the Rockets host the Trail Blazers Wednesday.

Utah 102, Detroit 97

Another close one. The Jazz fought off the Pistons late to get the W, needing crucial buckets from Deron Williams (22 points, 10 dimes) and a missed three from Tracy McGrady (11 points, 9 rebounds, 11 dimes) to squeeze out the win and take down Detroit at home. The Pistons haven’t defeated Utah in six years, and, well, that didn’t change yesterday.

Actual Stats: Hedo Turkoglu: 10 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists, 5 steals, 1 three.

Moment of the Night: TMac came just one rebound from a triple-double, and was even closer—just a few inches—to hitting a game-tying three-pointer in the game’s final seconds. The below video is a full highlight, but if you click this it should take you to the exact point.

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  • block

    Rodman also played against true big men that played closer to the basket, which also helped his rebound positioning. The bigs of today have to defend the pick and roll and the three point line far more often than players from the past.

  • T-Money

    Rodman during his Bulls days almost made a point to NOT score. It even felt gimmicky at times. Obviously, it never hurt the Bulls that much since they went for a three-peat. Just saying. JKidd did the same thing in Beijing. He just refused to shoot.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I used to like when Dennis would take a stray three here or there as a Bull. He made more than he missed it seemed.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And just to be fair to Dennis, since I’m not sure what constitutes “good offense”, is that Dennis was a great passer, especially in the Triangle. He had a knack for it. He never bogged down the offense and made good passes from both the high and mid post when needed.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Everyone on that second three-peat Bulls squad was a great passer. Rodman, Longley, Kukoc, everyone. It was a perfect team for the triangle offense.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Not good for the Rockets to lose another close one, but it’s defintiely nice to see Carmelo playing so well, especially after the tragedy in his family… My condolences to his family.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I wonder if Toni could have thrived as a second option on another team and averaged 20, 5 and 7…something like that. His skill set was silly good offensively.

  • the wise

    This headline only makes me happy because SLAM stays down with those ATLiens…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I loved me some Randy Brown back then. He always gave them a spark. Enigmatic, you probably remember the night he banged on the Lakers in that overtime game on a TNT broadcast that changed the momentum of that game. The Lakers were kicking their as*ses and then the Bulls kind of said “fu*k it” and turned it on. It was the same game Scottie and Michael tackled Dennis after a confrontation with one of the Lakers. I can’t think of who it was though.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I can’t remember that specific game, Eboy, but I do remember Randy Brown did do a good job coming off the bench and providing some energy.
    Remember Jud Buechler? Whatever happened to that cat? Dude was like a professional volleyball player slash basketball player, and he’d just chill in the corner and drop 3′s whenever he was in the game.
    Steve Kerr was my sentimental favorite from those teams though. And Bill Wennington. Two of the best senses of humor ever.
    Kukoc put up 19, 7 and 5 on that first post-MJ-Scottie-Phil-Dennis horriBulls team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    If you can find that particular game on Youtube or someplace on the internets, find it. You’ll love it. Nick Van Exel was killing that night. Just ran out of bullets at the end.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    True story – one of the worst days of my life was February 4th, 1996. The Bulls lost to the Nuggets that night. It was only the fourth loss of that season.
    Later that night my house burned down. No f*cking lie.
    Next day, I’m at school wearing some neighbor’s borrowed clothes, looking depressed as hell when my teacher pulled me aside and asked me what was wrong.
    I said, “The Bulls lost last night……oh, and my house burned down.”

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Eboy – Toni was the second option on that MJ-less Bulls team that made it to the eatern conference finals. he averaged 15, 5, and 5 that year. He was a solid player.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    LOL @ Enigmatic’s answer to his teacher.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    They would start Toni at the 4 and slide Dennis to the 5 in the Playoffs against some teams too. That was a pretty effective lineup.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Everything was secondary to the Bulls for me at that age.
    They won their 70th game that season on April 16th, 1996. My birthday is April 17th.
    I wouldn’t let my parents buy me a gift that year for my B-Day cause I told them they couldn’t top what MJ and them gave me. LOL

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Hedo is laughing all the way to the bank, then the club, then the pizza place.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Enigmatic, Michael retired the first time on October 6th, 1993. It was my 23rd birthday. How about that symbolism. At that point in my life, Michael was my biggest role model outside of my father. I had tears during his press conference. I’ve learned alot in the following 17 years but you see how these things happen to everyone.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Is it just me or did we lose like 5 comments? Maybe after I post this they’ll reappear?
    This is only a test…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Andre & Big Boi are the only “Two Dope Boys” that I know of.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    It worked!
    Eboy, when I went to the Illinois High School state title game in 2009, when Marcus Jordan’s Whitney Young HS beat Jereme Richmond’s Waukegan HS (my high school, Dundee-Crown, came in fourth – what up Chargers?! DC what!) I knew MJ was in the building.
    I went to get a closer look and got close enough to see the back of his bald head from like 200 feet away before security made me bacdafucup.
    But it was like seeing Santa or some sh*t. Like, I had worshipped this dude as a kid all these years, and then at age 25 here I was, beaming at the fact I saw the back of his dome in person.
    I’ve met Derrick Rose, R. Lee Ermey, Jesse Jackson, and some other celebs but the only time I ever got nervous around someone else was when I saw the back of MJ’s head. Damn.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I feel you, Enigmatic.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Emiddleagedman cried when he was 23 cuz jordan retired? Grow some balls you baby. Ill never understand people who get extremely starstruck. Theyre just people too. You can admire them and their works without worshipping them.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Knicks are in trouble. I just wanna point that out. Gallinari is hugely important for their spacing, they are a horrendous shooting team without him on the floor

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    But nbk, I thought all they needed was POW! and Fa-Fa-Felton???
    Shoutout to IAMORANGE4EVER

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    To stay above .500 prolly. But to actually keep what they’ve been doing going, they’re going to need gallo

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    Uh, Kevin Love does the exact same thing that Dennis Rodman does: Box out to get into position for a rebound and ignore cutting players and get in the way of slashers. If you hate the way KLove gets rebounds, you hate the way Rodman got rebounds.
    And I know Rodman was a lockdown defender so that semi-makes up for it, but I remember so many times that the dude would let cutters run past him without even sticking a hand out just in case that rebound came down.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    Oh wow, I didn’t even see that you guys got INTO a conversation about Rodman.
    Dude would routinely do the same things Kevin Love does. That’s what great rebounders do. Rodman was probably a little bit better on rotations on the offensive end but god, I remember rewatching some Bulls footage and watching Rodman just let guys run at the basket without getting a hand up, just incase that rebound fell his way.
    He was NOT a decent help defender in any stretch of the imagination. The only time he’d help is if Phil designed defenses where Rodman was supposed to help. The proof is in the help stats- the guy had springboard legs, both upwards and side to side… yet never averaged a steal or a block? It’s cause he never tried, just kept getting those rebounds and locking down the man he was supposed to lock down.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    And I’m not hating on Rodman OR Love either— this is what you give and take. The Bulls and Pistons had GREAT iso defenders who rarely needed help so Rodman never had to come out and show much. Likewise with Love, Minny is mostly with slashing midrange shooters so I don’t know why he has to clear away from the basket all the time for slashers. If anything, getting second possessions is great for this team.
    But Rodman and Love do have similar habits, outside of the fact that Rodman could lock generally anyone down and Love couldn’t stop my grandmother from going to the cup.

  • Mr. Robinson

    McGrady starting to get it going? Wow. About time. Now if he can just put some games together he’ll be alright.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Allen…… Staaaarrshiippsss and rockets, in a world that dont give a damn. …. ….. . Thats one of their best ever, imo. What yall think? ….. If u even know what I mean.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Tarzan- thats Eightball and MJG. Wasn’t Allen reffering to Bun B of UGK?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    And UGK’s “One Day” is one of the best songs ever! RIP Pimp C.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Enigmatic, yes I know that was 8ball n mjg, and yes allen was talking bout bun on that post. … Cosign times a trillion on ‘one day’. …. ‘Like yesterday’ is the ish too…… ….. .. Rip young pimp aka tony snow aka sweet james jones. ……. ……….. …. These biiches love to talk shtt, im fin to pop the trunk. ………. ……… ….. …. ‘Its sad how quick it went from free to rest in peace pimp c ‘. …….. That last album they put out was a monster, a legend is gone.. ………….. …. …. ….. . ‘i shoot threes like steve jackson, say my name watch a biich reaction’.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    Wow this play at Milwaukee/Miami is… odd.
    Scott Skiles literally was on the floor, on the three point line and bumped into Arroyo. I mean, Kidd bumped into Woodson when Woodson was leaning in balance, but like, I’ve never seen a guy literally ON THE THREE POINT LINE during a HALF-COURT SET.
    I don’t like that ruling. They gave Miami a technical jump shot and then made it a jump ball. Shouldn’t Miami just get it back? That means if the Bucks got the jump ball, Miami would come away UNFAIRLY with only one point.
    Sort of like the six-player flagrant that Portland had against the Celts.

  • Justin

    The thing that Rodman had way more of than any of these guys today is will. He also had a great basketball IQ. I mean, he’s drawing charges from guys like David Wingate in the Seattle Finals but he’s able to hold his ground and take a beating from Shaq without flailing around? They listed him at 6’8″ and a lot of people will say he wasn’t even that tall. You have to have a great mindset and a will to take the punishment, deal out some of your own, and do whatever it takes to get the rebounds the way Rodman did. He had great hands too, often tipping the ball and keeping it alive until he was able to grasp it. He was actually a decent enough scorer in college but as many have mentioned, there was no need for him to score on those Detroit and Chicago teams. They had enough to go around and it allowed him to focus on defending and rebounding. All that mattered to him were wins, not stats.

  • Justin

    cosign everything Enigmatic and Eboy said about everything being secondary to those Bulls teams by the way. I also had tears during that press conference and I wasn’t ashamed of it at all.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Co-sign Enigmatic on “One Day.” I was trying to think of the name of that song when we started this discussion. That’s my favorite track they’ve ever done, with International Players Anthem being second because of the presence of the world’s greatest rapper.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oh, and the ski slopes line is Andre 3000
    “Niggas elope with ski slopes and fall like avalanches, tooting like it’s cool being fooled but I can’t just sit around and watch those nose membranes flame my ends is loose and you can’t stop that rain when it starts fall…”
    Who else could talk about cats wasting their time dirtying their noses in such a poetic manner? Recognize greatness when you see it.

  • http://yahoo.com Big O.

    It’s been a while since I’ve drop some knowledge…I’ve been busy watching the good old boys from South Beach raging havoc on the entire league. I think we all know that the road to the NBA title will have to go through the Heatles and C’s. From now on I want everyone to refer to the heat as the “heatles” you haters. The C’s will wear down as the season continues but I do expect the eastern conf. finals between C’s and Heatles to go to 7 games with the heatles winning it…Orlando is a non-factor and the east coast version of the Suns when they had Amare….The Heatles have the championship in the bag…once we get past the C’s in the east then we’ll go and sweep the Spurs in the west for the championship..Now can you dig iiiit!

  • Justin

    ^^^^^ Still waiting for actual KNOWLEDGE to be dropped, not opinion. The fact that you actually like the “Heatles” name and that you end your post like you’re Booker T speaks volumes

  • http://yahoo.com Big O.

    @ Justin, why don’t u go crawl back under a rock and disappear…u loser…this is a laid back type of forum..not for grumpy old men..yeah the fact that you’re up at 2:27am in the morning responding to me creative skills..emphasize the fact that u have no life..go get a job, u loser..

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