Quantcast
Monday, January 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am  |  86 responses

When Donald Sterling Yelled at David Stern

The awesome thing about being an NBA team owner is that you can get away with, well, basically anything. The LA Times reports: “If you can’t tell from the results, Sterling is a demanding boss who can target bigger game than  Baron Davis. … Like Commissioner David Stern, the boss of bosses. Three sources describe an exchange in an owners meeting in Las Vegas a year or so ago: Sterling: ‘You don’t want to hear what I have to say.’ Stern. ‘Yes, we do.’ Sterling. ‘No you don’t.’ Stern: ‘Yes, we do.’ Sterling: ‘OK, I would fire you. You’re great at marketing, but you’re not tough enough with the union.’”

  • Add a Comment
  • Share
  • RSS

Tags: , ,

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    F*CK Donald Sterling. That was probably the PG exchange too.
    What he really said was probably something along the lines of “How dare you let those [racial epitaph] push us around?”

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Sterling is my guy.
    People can learn from his “realness”.
    He has Stern’s lunch money.

  • http://dosfdjkal.com Jukai

    @Philo: Sterling is the epitome of a racist and a scumbag. Nice to know he is your boy.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    I do not judge people like you do. If anything, I would try to educate and enlighten.
    See, I love everyone. That is my style. I am a man of the people. Everybody is “my people”.
    It seems like you have a plethora of hate in your soul. It sucks, doesn’t it?
    Better you than me…

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    Yeah, good luck with that whole “educate and enlighten” nonsense. I’m sure all those black families who were denied homes because of their skin color sure feel the same way! Besides, aren’t you like 14? Good luck with your quest, Gandhi.

  • izzo

    I think Sterling called Stern a nicka lover.

  • http://slamonline.com Ghost

    Jukai with the mean swagger! ROAR!!!!!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Juks:
    I would make that attempt at enlightening for them, too.
    I do not have hate in my blood. Unlike other people. (you)
    So, you know for sure how those families feel, no? Damn. You are pretty good, then. You can actually know how a person(s) is feeling without ever having a connection to/with them.
    I’ll be Mahatma.
    You are Edgar Cayce…
    And, how old are you??

  • robb

    @Philosopher I don’t see nobody judging Sterling dude. Facts are facts he IS a racist and a scumbag, for him owning a team is just a modern variant of slavery. F*** the guy.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    @robb:
    One can only do what they are allowed to do.
    I realize that Sterling is an alleged racist. My point is to try to do something that is bigger than me. It does not matter if success is achieved. The attempt is the important factor.
    To me, anyway.

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    No, you’re right, I do NOT know how those families felt. Maybe they were GRATEFUL for Sterling to deny them housing in the area they wanted to live in. They probably THANKED him.
    Or maybe you’re a dolt. Good luck enlightening me.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    And, you, along with Jukai, are passing judgment. It is a common folly amongst us gentiles.

  • http://www.sportivore.com/2010/05/best-point-guard-on-the-planet-is-still-chris-paul-sorry-deron-williams/ AllBall

    Big Phil do you talk like this in life?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Jukai:
    I have enlightened you on an occasion, or two. So, it is not that hard.
    And, you need some ass.
    How’s that for enlightenment?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    And, from what has been reported about the conditions of those homes, they probably DID thank him for letting them out of those leases.

  • http://slamonline.com Yknot

    I know it’s MLK day and all but phil seriously? We do ourselves an injustice trying to make sense of his ignorance. If you’re Ghandi I’ll be Dr. King “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”
    Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    ^Again, one is only going to do what they are allowed to do.
    Education is a key to solving many of these problems. Love is also a key.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    I love how Philo is backing a racist on MLK day. C’mon man, I know there’s no need for hate, but it sounds like you genuinely support Sterling’s behavior.

  • http://slamonline.com riggs

    what a self-aggrandizing *sshole this dude is. oh and sterling too.

  • Zoom

    Sterling is a racist pig. Being criticized by him doesn’t hold much weight. Stern is no picnic either, but Sterling is a scum bag…People kill me when they say silly things like “I don’t judge”. EVERYONE “judges”. We all have different standards by which we “judge”, but it is done by EVERY human being on the face of this earth. If you have ever criticized anyone for anything whatsoever, I have news for you: that too is “judging”. It’s actually a pretty immature stance of self-righteousness when individuals make that claim. People say they don’t judge because they are not God. Well, by that very same token it is impossible for you not to judge. You are a human being, not God. You are incapable of imperfection, therefore there will always be a time during which you have negative feelings for a person due to whatever actions that rubbed you the wrong way. Those same people that can look at a guy like Sterling and say they won’t judge him will look at Loughner and call him evil. They will condemn a child rapist, and rightfully so I feel. We all just have different standards by which we judge…Just please don’t say you don’t do it. It’s just not true.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    @Caboose:
    Well, I do not support Sterling’s alleged behavior. It is just that when stepping away from that for just a moment, I respect his hustle. He is annually among the few owners that make a profit every year. That is to be respected, in my opinion. He has a real “realness” to him. He is not “undercover”, such as some racists are. I would rather have the racist be truly racist than to have him befriend me, then pull a racist stunt out of nowhere. A true racist is not going to pull any punches. The “undercover” racist? Well…
    Now also, I honestly and truly have a yearning to try and make this world a better place whichever way I can. The mission that I embark on, it is bigger than me.

  • Zoom

    Writing on the go; forgive the typos.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Zoom:
    I never said that I do not judge. I just do not judge in the likes that brother Jukai seems to judge. Of course I will judge an action. I will not judge a person, though. A world of difference.
    Now, you are stereotyping, but anyways…
    I respectfully disagree with you on your connection with judging and criticism.
    Also, we are incapable of “imperfection”?
    Maybe you meant incapable of “perfection”. No harm.
    And, most times, my negative feelings toward a person is not actually towards the said person. It is toward the actual action.
    One more thing. You do not know every person on the face of the Earth, so, that point is a tad off.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    @riggs:
    Long time, my brother.

  • http://www.boogiewillaims.com Boing Dynasty

    David Stern is not “The Boss of the Bosses”, hes the employee of the Bosses.

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    Dang. I thought this was a basketball website.

  • MUBWAR

    Stern … a Boss?

  • Zoom

    @ Philo: I posted a comment about the typos already but since you spent so much of your post focusing on it I’ll just reveal that I’m using my cell while walking, hence the errors. Soooo…Anyway, I don’t need to know every person on Earth to be able to determine that we’re all imperfect human beings. That kinda goes without saying. It’s always interesting to me when people take the stance of “Judging the actions, not the individual”. If a person’s actions don’t determine the kind of person they are then I don’t know what does. I’m not talking about one time mistakes. I’m talking about contantly engaging in very specific behavior. Take Sterling for example. You accuse all who call him a racist of judging. You accuse Jukai of being a hater, in the same breath as bodly stating that you don’t judge. Whether we know Sterling personally or not is irrelevant because our opinions were formed based on his statements and actions that were made public on numerous occasions. Exactly how is that different from you judging Jukai as being full of hate? (Forgive me if I’m wrongly assuming the two of you don’t spend much time together in person.) I’d hate to think that someone on as noble a quest as yourself is a hypocrite.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Zoom:
    No one said that we were perfect. It is cool.
    And, that was not your original point. Your original point was that we all judge people, no? Nothing to do with being perfect.
    Also, I did not accuse brethren who call him racist of judging. I accused you and Jukai of Judging. I accused you of stereotyping.
    So, anyway, there are numerous occasions on these boards where brother Jukai states that he hates something. I mean, he says it himself. I do not have to judge that one.
    Finally, I aim not to sound like a hypocrite. If I do sound like one, then, I give apologies.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Zoom:
    And, it sounds like you have a “God” complex. I could be wrong. But, you are not the only one.
    Hell, I may have one too.
    I am thinking brother riggs alluded to that in his diplomatic way of… alluding.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    I think Donald Sterling may be a lower human being than Dr Robotnik. Also, regarding Philo, don’t feed the trolls, guys.

  • http://slamonline.com Hossy

    hey philosopher. before you defend racist scumbags or try to “educate and enlighten me” read this http://deadspin.com/5398936/donald-sterling-continues-to-get-away-with-being-the-most-evil-man-in-sports

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Little known fact but Gandhi was racist as hell check for yourselves.

  • JTaylor21

    F*ck David Stern, F*ck Donald Sterling and F*ck every owner. Stern is being worked like a government mule by the owners, who don’t give a damn about the game and only care about making their pockets fatter. If there were at least some owners in there that cared about the game, the product the league puts out there would be a whole lot better. Instead we are stuck with fat bastards who’ve never played a game of basketball in their lives.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I like zoom. The more I read the more I like. Dude thinks things through.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Allenp is right about Ghandi.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    This was a good.anecdote. it outlines the true relationship between stern and.the owners and explains why sterling does what he does.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    @Allen: I have read that, also.
    @Hossy: Understood. But again, would you align yourself with him if you already know this about him? People still align themselves with him. This being the case, he is not completely at fault. The people who are at fault are the alleged victims. Sterling has a long history. People should have known by now, no?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Cosign that last statement by philo. Stern and the other owners are enablers, period.

  • izzo

    Stop judging Stern, Philo!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Is that the infamous Izzo? I thought jukai said you abandoned us as useless?

  • 1982

    That’s the worst trash talking I’ve ever seen in my life…

  • izzo

    Well that’s Jukai being judgmental again, I don’t think I said that. I still read SLAM and the comments most days. The reason I don’t comment is that I don’t really have the opportunity to watch that much NBA, so don’t feel enough in the loop to make any substantive comments. I will provide pissy asides from time to time, though.

  • robb

    @Philosopher probably you admire Hitler too, you know that man was also a very driven individual who tried to do something bigger than himself right? The end justifies the means, and we shouldn’t judge him but admire him. You’re crazy.

  • Zoom

    @ Philo: I understand where you are coming from but I still disagree with the majority of what you’re saying. 1) Yes, even you judge. If you calling Jukai a hater wasn’t enough to prove it, your assertion that I have a God complex furthers my point. 2)I don’t recall anywhere in my posts where I stereotyped anyone. You could reach and say that by me calling everyone who claims to not judge “self-righteous” I was stereotyping them, but that’s simply my opinion. I didn’t reinforce any widly held views of one particular group of people, so that comment kinda baffled me. 3)In my eyes, I equate a human being LITERALLY practicing non-judgment toward other people with being perfect, and/or being God since I believe he is the only being capable of such a feat. I mean, God forbid someone did something horrendous to you or a loved one, I can’t imagine your judgment being focused only on their actions. I don’t have a God complex bro, I just try my best to call it like I see it.

  • Zoom

    @Allenp: Much respect to you.

  • Ben

    Phil… Shut up. Seriously, dude, you’re embarassing yourself. And yeah, I wonder if you’d respect Hitler if he made a profit…

  • Zoom

    Stern is a hypocrite as well as an enabler. I love how he can bring his hammer down on what the players do outside of the league, but punks like Sterling can do and say what they want without so much as a peep from him.

  • Jer Boi

    Screw it guys it’s useless arguing with Philo. He’ll never admit hes wrong. Those kinda people are just idiotic.

  • Jer-Dawg

    The bottom line we love basketball and support the guys who play it. We hate owners for not caring about our time and money spent supporting these guys and owners pimp ALL of us. Sterling may/is all the stuff everyone says he is but track record shows he’s not a supporter of the Clipper basketball but rather the almighty dollar. I can’t support a team that the owner doesn’t try and build to a contender. Lakers organization tries and cares as much as it’s local fans in LA do. In turn they show love by wearing colors, attending games, basically being loyal fans. Sterling exhibited ZERO qualities of a team supporter and is all the above negative.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    ‘it would be rather interesting and worthwhile if we could share togeher a mind thatt is not tortured, that is fundamentally free, that has no barriers, that sees things as they are, that sees that an interval of time separates man from nature and from other human beings, that sees the meaning of dreadful, frightening time and space, that knows what is really the quality of love. If we could share this-not intellectually, not in a most cunning, elaborate, philosophical, metaphysical way, but actually partake of it, if we could do that I think all our problems would end. But this shariing is not with another, one must have it first. Then when you have it you have it in abundance. And when there is this abundance the one and the many are the same, like a tree that is full of leaves of which one leaf is perfect and is part of the whole tree.’

  • z

    wow! a “philosopher” who argues in favor of an uber-capitalist and a racist? Does that seem like an oxymoron to anyone else? This guy is a disgrace to all philosophers. I’m sorry if that sounds harsh, since i don’t know him personally, but JUDGING from the things he consistently posts, it’s true.

  • http://nbacheapseats.blogspot.com Chendaddy

    @BoingDynasty Co-sign.

    @Engimatic Hahahahahahaha, co-sign as well!

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    HAHAHAHA at the Philosopher saying he doesn’t judge then telling someone he has a God complex. This guy is the fakest dude here, and that’s knowing full well that The Nerve posts here.
    Sorry for misrepresenting Izzo, but dude did say something like that a while ago!

  • Shem

    Co-sign AllenP with his Gandhi racist comment, search it

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    And yeah, I’ve heard of Gandhi’s racism during his South Africa days, I was just throwing out the name. Sheesh.

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    Whoa, wait, I gotta go back up to one of Philo’s original comments.
    “Letting them out of the leases?”
    F it, Philo, just google it if you don’t know ANYTHING about the case.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Calm down, brethren. Calm down.
    @Zoom:
    I concede.
    @rob, Ben: I would try to help Hitler change his mind.
    @Jukai: Fake? o.k.
    @Jer Boi: I do not have a problem with being wrong. Sometimes, people learn things when they are wrong about something. I like learning.

  • coggie13

    just gonna put it out there that hitler was perhaps the greatest leader ever.. not in a good way. but the way in which he did lead was pretty amazing.

  • Heals

    Figures, Sterling just wants to leech as much as he can from players for as little as possible. He has no respect for people that aren’t like him – White and Greedy. Furthermore; if memory serves correct hasn’t Stern been regarded as being somewhat tough on the Union…

  • JTaylor21

    Hitler didn’t lead sh*t but his country and people to the depths of hell. He was never a leader, only a coward who was afraid of his own insecurities that he had to wipe out an entire population. Double f*ck hitler and anyone that stood by and watched him massacre millions of people.

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    Jer Boi: No, yer right, I tried correcting Philo a while ago on the subject of Rubio and Jennings, but Philo wasn’t having any of it. Even Crawford has admitted he’s been wrong once or twice.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Yeah. And, Kobe is a better shooter than Bird.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Phil, you turdburglar, you will never let jukai live that down. ……. Not that you should…..

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    ^The g.o.a.t.

  • MikeC.

    Sterling does have a solid business model for his team. Be bad, draft exciting, young talent. Hope that talent can develop itself because the Clips hire the cheapest coaches in the L. Let the talent gel and make a run at the playoffs. When it’s time to pay the talent for real, let them walk and start the process over again. If he paid to keep the talent, he wouldn’t make money and then it would be a bad business model.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    ^^

  • Zoom

    @ coggie13: When a group of people are going through tough times it’s pretty easy for a charasmatic leader with a blood lust to take over the way he did. That was nothing new at the time. When a nation is suffering and you’re able to find a scapegoat(Jews and other minorities), unfortunately it can serve as motivation to a nation. This is in addition to the intimidation and persecution that awaited anyone who didn’t agree with his filth. Also nothing that hadn’t been done already. Hitler’s fall was fast and hard. It lead to complete humiliation and more suffering in his country. The only thing remarkable about his rise was that so many nations stood by and allowed him to do what he did before they acted. There were many leaders who were far better than that pyscho.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Illuminati.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    This thread is a mess.
    ___
    The Philosopher – Your talking about Gentiles and the Illuminati like your from 350 A.D.
    —————————————————
    By what standard do you judge another mans actions?
    —————————————————
    Maybe if Donald Sterling was the commissioner and David Stern was the GM/owner of the Clippers the entire NBA as we know it would operate completely differently….. better? I don’t know. But the Clippers might be winning.

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    Philo is trying to kill me for the Bird/Kobe statement when Philo openly acknowledges that Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are better than Michael Jordan. What a joke. At least people see how crazy Philo is in this sh*t show of a comment section.
    Once again, he drops his original argument when he can’t argue it anymore
    @Dacre: you have NO IDEA how crazy he is about the illuminati stuff

  • http://Philosopher.vision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Jukai:
    Kobe being a better shooter than Bird is crazy. Do not get mad at me for that. I did not come up here with that. Take it like a man.
    At least my argument on the contrary is valid. And, my argument regarding Bird and Magic being better than Michael has more validity than “Kobe being a better shooter than Bird”. I mean, seriously.
    You are trying to back track now, and that is the right move, but, that was just bull malarky, and you now know it… because some friend of yours clowned you about it.
    Even your own friends clowned you about that one…

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    Well, I’m clowning you about the whole Magic/Bird is better than Jordan thing…
    my argument with Bird/Kobe is that Bird had his spots and used off-ball screens to get wide open (something I considered NOT part of shooting) while Kobe shoots straight up without getting an open shot, and I feel Kobe doesn’t have spots, he just shoots where he is open.
    I’ve since rescinded the statement because someone mentioned the Olympics and Kobe’s inability to hit a shot when he’s spotting.
    It’s about as valid as your Bird/Magic statement, which is just dumb.

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    But hey, that’s a good argument. Mention that you like a known racist and scumbag who has had a total of three racial bias lawsuits (and counting) and then move away from the subject when you get called out.
    It’s a pro technique.

  • http://Philosopher.vision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    First of all, you are not “clowning” anyone.
    And, I am not the only one that is dumb, then. Many people think Magic AND Bird are better than Jordan.
    But as I have stated *on/in* (since you have nothing else, apparently) the other thread, I will hopefully continue this with you in a few hours.

  • http://Philosopher.vision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    You would know, woul not you?
    And, do not try to act like you are not a racist on my watch. I already know, my brother.
    Even Bryan Crawford has exposed you as that.
    You are not the one, Jukai.
    And, go ahead and judge me, if you would like. Person(s) who have not been up here in AGES already know what time it is with your judgemental ways. Real recognizes real.
    Period. (concerning Donald Sterling)

  • http://skldflf.com Jukai

    Are you inferring that *I* am dumb? Isn’t that *judging* me, Philo?
    Are you inferring that *I* am racist? Isn’t that *judging* me, Philo?

  • Matt

    I’m not incapable of imperfection

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    jukai and phils sissy fight is as enthralling as watching paint dry.

  • ciroqobama

    wow Philosopher is a tool

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    I don’t know much about Sterling. I heard he said some racist stuff but I don’t know if its true or not. I do know that unions are a good short-term idea for the individual and a terrible long-term idea for nations.

  • z

    whoa….started reading the comments but….maaan… I’m glad I don’t have to carry around the boulder’s that some of you think you need to…

    Plus, as an outsider that hasn’t had to deal with any kind of race issues at all (apart from being called a nazi as a kid because I have a german surname), it seems that you all seem to be chasing your tails a lot on this race thing… plus, there are more races out there than just blacks and whites… I recall a prominent commenter calling Eric Spoelstra a “Phillipino [sic] simpleton” and that didn’t cause half the fuss that this did…

  • c2

    wow, i just read all the comments. The comments section itself is already better than the article. This is why i love slam, i can already imagine you guys in a room arguing. LOL. And i thought this was a basketball website.

  • ZisAsimpleton

    Z: I’ve been reading the comments here on Slam for a while now and you’re either a liar or looking for attention because I specifically recall 80% of the comments addressing the Filipino simpleton comment. 2nd, not one post here brought up black or white ppl so I’m not sure what your simpleton a** is referring to. They were talking about Sterling’s racist self. And since you claim to have never dealt with race related issues, what the h*ll r u even doing in the convo? Kick rocks.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If you thin eboy’ s comment didn’t generate fuss then you suck at reading.
    if you think donald sterling “might” be a racist then you are willfully ignorant.
    Eboy got reamed, hell I participated in the reaming. And if Sterling’ s track record, including the federal discrimination lawsut that resulted in a multi-million dollar.settlement doesn’t convince you he is a racist then nothing reasonable will. You”re like dave chappelle in his skit about black.celebrities and court cases.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    @Jukai:
    I have never called you “dumb”.
    And, I am judging the actions of your literature.

Advertisement