Monday, February 28th, 2011 at 8:50 am  |  313 responses

Post Up: The New Danger

The new-look Knicks make their presence known.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

L.A. Lakers 90, Oklahoma City 87

Nobody on the Lakers put up big numbers, but let’s talk clutch: Kobe Bryant (17 points) hit a fadeaway with just under a minute remaining (clutch); Pau Gasol (clutch) drew a charge on Russell Westbrook (not clutch) on the ensuing possession; then, after two missed free throws from Lamar Odom (not clutch), both Kevin Durant (not clutch) and James Harden (not clutch) missed open looks that would’ve tied things up with little-to-no time remaining. The point: in a close, back-and-forth dogfight, as is often the case, whomever came through in the clutch (OK, done with that word) was going to pull it out. This time, experience won out, but this’ll only add to the Thunder’s tally of big-game reps, and that, I imagine, is a good thing.

(But yeah, the Thunder do need to work on ball movement and halfcourt offense, specifically in the last few minutes of big games, when everything slows down and you need to grind out buckets. Neither Kendrick Perkins (out 2-3 weeks) nor Nazr Mohammed (day-to-day) was active, so the team’s dynamic will mostly change as those guys get worked in over the next month or so.)

Philadelphia 95, Cleveland 91

They’re getting very little attention, but the Sixers are rolling these days, slowly trotting upwards in the East. With the Knicks win (more on that in a sec), the Sixers stayed within one game of NYK, sitting at seventh with a 30-29 record. The Cavs threatened late, pulling to within three with only 48 ticks remaining, but a JJ Hickson (22 points, 16 boards) turnover ended Cleveland’s chances of sneaking away with a W.

Phoenix 110, Indiana 108

After screwing up and committing a foul that allowed the Pacers to tie it up with some free throws, Channing Frye made up for it, hitting a J as the OT buzzer sounded that’ll earn him a spot on the next incarnation of this list. Indiana had previously outscored Phoenix 27-17 in the final quarter to force overtime, but couldn’t come through when it matter to snatch the victory. Meanwhile,it turns out Grant Hill is still thoroughly opposed to aging, as he put up 34 points and grabbed 9 boards. Must be nice.

Minnesota 126, Golden State 123

Kevin Love doesn’t seem to be a big fan of all the losing the Wolves have been doing, so he decided to change that. Extending his double-double streak to 46 with a 37 and 23 performance, Love led Minny past a struggling Golden State squad. The Warriors had a chance to get the win, but Monta Ellis‘ game-winning attempt was swatted by the taller Wesley Johnson, and the TWolves hung on to end their seven-game losing streak.

Orlando 100, Charlotte 86

The Magic just have the Bobcats’ number, it appears. Orlando took down Charlotte easily at home, defeating the Cats for the 12th time in 14 meetings behind Dwight Howard’s 20 points and 10 boards. Stephen Jackson (35 points) did his best to keep his squad competitive, but got little assistance. Well, no assistance, to be honest. The loss pushes the Bobcats out of the top eight in the East; they now sit at ninth, a half-game behind Indiana.

Dallas 114, Toronto 96

The Raptors came out hot, going up by as many as 19 in the first, but once the Mavs got going—you know. Dirk Nowitzki dropped 31 and Shawn Marion put in 20, as Dallas cruised by Toronto and picked up its sixth straight win. Amir Johnson notched a solid 21-point effort in the loss.

Houston 91, New Orleans 89

Chris Paul (6 points, 2-12 from field) had an off night, and the Hornets still almost came away with a victory, but Willie Green’s game-tying attempt with under 10 seconds left rimmed out. Kevin Martin put on an efficiency clinic, scoring 33 on 8-15 from the floor and 13-13 from the line, while Kyle Lowry put in 18. The W is the fourth straight for the Rockets, who still stand a few games out of Playoff contention in the West.

San Antonio 95, Memphis 88

The good news, of course, is that the Spurs overcame the Grizz to up their record to 49-10, and that Manu Ginobili went completely off, scoring 18 in the fourth quarter (35 total) to lead San Antonio to victory. The bad: Both Tim Duncan and Tony Parker went down with injuries at some point, and though Duncan returned, Parker did not. So as great as the Spurs have been, it might be time for that rest-y period where the vets chill and begin preparing for postseason play. This contest was close late, but an 8-0 run, which included a Ginobili go-ahead layup, seal things up.

New York 91, Miami 86

Wow. So, this happened. The Heat had a slight advantage for the game’s majority, but some tough D down the stretch (which wasn’t the case for, um, the entire 48) along with some really, really clutch (yeah, had to bring it back) play from Chauncey Billups propelled the Knicks over Miami late in the fourth. Things were pretty sloppy (the Knicks and Heat shot 38.8 and 43.2 percent from the field, respectively), and I’ll hesitantly say the competition loosely mirrored the late-90s Miami-NY action. Carmelo Anthony dropped 29, while the Miami triumvirate combined for 59, which is way lower than it’ll need to be in the future. And, if you ask me, it seems the Knicks made a great trade last week, maybe because of the Melo addition, but definitely because of the dude that’ll be running point for the next season and a half. In only his third game with the team, Billups demonstrated smarts, fearlessness, and playmaking ability—in other words, Billups was essentially what Ray Felton has been this season, but better. Miami hosts the Magic Thursday, but not before the Knicks take a turn in Orlando tomorrow night.

Atlanta 90, Portland 83

Jamal Crawford and Joe Johnson combined for 55, as the Hawks went up big in the second/third and then held on late to defeat the surging Blazers. With the Knicks looking pretty damn great last night, and the rest of the East beefing up by adding experience and talent every day, the Hawks will need to improve if they plan to keep pace—so this win over a Western contender was definitely a good look. Oh, and props to Zaza Pachulia, who thoroughly embraced his enforcer role by scoring only 2 points while grabbing 12 boards.

Last Call: Channing Frye, for the win.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Jukai…I think we all knew that but weren’t quite as manic about it as you were/have been/still are.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Eboy from that perspective I understand what your saying my b. I would be willing to bet Bibby gets all of Arroyo (did he die) and House’s would be minutes, but the Chalmers thing, and Spoelstra’s insistence on not admitting when his guys suck very well could be what keeps mike outta town. Knowing the guy though, he is tryna get minutes, i’d bet he goes to Miami even without a guarantee.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    With Jeff Green, he can guard multiple positions. I’m not saying he’s Bowen, but he can guard a few types of players. The Kristic addition is arguable, but I see him as a better defender on the pick and roll. He won’t clog the lane as much as Perk did, and he won’t pick up a bunch of fouls in a short period of time. He won’ pick up a bunch of techs. I think he would be able to stay on the floor longer than Perk would.
    All I’m saying is that it seems like that they have more options on defense being that they added 3 types of adequate defenders. Post/perimeter (2types) in Green, and post defender (1type) in Kristic for the price of one player who just had 1 type of defense he brought to the team.
    Celtics lost a little toughness, but they’re tough anyway.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Eboy: Well, now you are manic, so welcome to my club.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Philo: Kristic isn’t a better defender on ANYTHING. Don’t be fooled cause he’s smaller.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Spacehip Jay
    Exactly! Those pretty stats are the result of killing against inferior squads, which as Anton pointed out, is a problem for the entire Heat team.
    Straight up, Bosh hooped like he was supposed to last night. Bron hooped like he was supposed to last night. Wade did not, and Spo forgot about Dampier for the entire second half.
    The Knicks played better, their coach didn’t eff up his rotation and Chauncey had flashbacks to his Detroit days.
    If Miami plays like they are supposed to, and with the correct players on the floor, they should beat the Knicks and Bulls in a series. If they don’t, they can lose to either team in any round.
    I’m still not convinced they can beat Boston even if they play their best, but they have a shot.
    And to be clear, I’m not hating on Wade to save LeBron. I just don’t like that he’s picked up so many bad habits on both sides of the ball. I remember how he was in BEAST mode after the Olympics, and i just want him to get back to that style of play. That dude was crazy back then.
    And, did anybody else notice that Bron was kind of struggling to get up and grab that left handed alley? Weird.
    Wade is just too damn casual.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    @Allen – He started doing those long weird strides like a high jumper, i doubt he was planning on jumping off two feet, Wade through that behind him.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    threw*

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Jukai:
    He’ll be better able to keep up in transition though, no? Perkins was slow, and quick to tire.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Philo: I mean… he could get back faster but it’s a difference between a guy finishing with Kristic infront of him on the break and finishing with Perkins behind him on the break. Maybe I’m short changing Kristic, but he doesn’t bring as much as Perkins brings.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    @ Philo; He maybe able to keep up in transition yes.. But with the C’s consistency in rarely turning the ball over, was transition defense a problem in the first place?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kristic is slower than Perkins. Ever since he blew out his knee in Jersey he can’t run.
    And he’s not soft, but he’s not a good defender either. I don’t think people appreciate what Perk did on defense. Yes, Boston won without him, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t important.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Jordan never played for stats. Stats played for Jordan.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Boston didn’t win a title without Perkins. End of discussion.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Eboy Boston also didn’t win a title without James Posey, or Leon Powe. Discussion cont’d

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Jukai:
    In terms of toughness, no. But skill for skill, and for the type of point guard Rajon Rondo is, Kristic seems to be a better fit when it comes to offense. Kristic is more versatile offensively than quite a few centers, as a matter of fact. Before his injury, he was almost on the cusp. But that was then, this is now…
    @Spaceship Jay:
    Interesting point.
    But with a team that likes to get out and run (D’Antoni) or against a good defensive team like Chicago, San Antonio, etc., or a team that plays the passing lanes, it could be tricky. Turnovers are bound to happen. I could be wrong. It’s the timely turnovers, you know? I just can’t imagine Perk being able to run for 35 minutes like that. Slow the game down for him, he’s in his element.
    The last couple of years, Perkins was gassed by Playoff time. In The Finals, he was battling tendonitis on the knee he eventually blew out.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Even if Kristic is slower than Perkins, (I don’t believe he is) Kristic will still be able to stay on the floor longer than Perk would have.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Philo: The Celtics had a five-deep center rotation. That traded away three of them for a second rounder and Kristic. Stamina should not have made a difference.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    O’neal, O’neal, Krstic – Garnett, Davis, Green. That’s 6 guys to fill 2 positions, if the O’Neals aren’t healthy in the playoffs that’s where the Perk trade really hurts them. But if all players are healthy Boston is much more flexible, and definitely better for the future. Perkins is at his ceiling from a potential standpoint, Green will presumably improve considerably.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Juks:
    Yeah, but they are going to have Shaq, J.O., Davis is on the spot, too. They still have 3 legit bigs, and “Baby” as a “tweener”. They may sign another big, you know?
    And, I’m also talking about the frequent foul trouble Perkins finds himself in. I don’t see that happening as much with Kristic.
    Kristic can shoot. He can pass. He won’t put the ball on the floor when he’s not supposed to. Especially in scoring position. That opens up so many things on offense. It keeps people honest on D.
    And, he’s not as hard as Perk, but he does have heart and he will mix it up as we alluded to.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    If they weren’t going to pay Perkins $8-10 million how can they afford Green?
    And if Perkins wanted more than that, he’s crazy, but I would imagine that Green is going to be looking for at least that amount.
    You gotta figure that Perkins looked at what Varejo got paid and said that was his starting point. And you have to figure that Green is looking at the same thing, and probably comparing himself to Noah and David Lee and feeling like he deserves to get paid.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Boston lost both players.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I just got word Bibby has signed, or agreed to sign with Heat. Also hearing Heat are new frontrunner for Troy Murphy, anybody care to elaborate on what you’ve heard in the last 20 minutes?

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Philo: I don’t know what you’re arguing, I wasn’t saying they lost depth at center, I was saying Perkins stamina and fouls issues didn’t matter cause they had so much backup so why downgrade for a guy who has more stamina but is worse in every way?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    For Eboy –
    @WindhorstESPN
    Brian Windhorst
    With several teams chasing Bibby (esp. Portland) it wouldn’t be a surprise if Heat promised Bibby he’ll eventually be the starter at PG.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, you might as well throw MJ into that list. Look I’m not hating on Kobe’s D but those 9 first team defensive selections and his overall defensive impact on the game are a tad bit overrated. Dude did a great job of defending his man in the past but that game vs Gil where he lit him up for 60 big ones still resonate in my mind. You can’t be an all-time great defender and let a very good not great player light you up like that.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I believe they are willing to pay Jeff Green because he is younger, has no injury history, and was the guy Boston wanted in 07 but had to give him up for Ray Allen. They essentially got everything they wanted in 07, and now Green can be groomed to take over some of Garnett’s role defensively, while being an actual option unlike Perkins on offense.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    NY is buying out Corey Brewer BULLS FANS!

  • http://www.realgm.com Gman

    LOL @Anton.

    I think Wade struggling has something to do with Lebron. Lebron holds the ball way too much. I mean he made A.Jamison stats go down after years of having good stats.

    Why is everything Kobe vs Lebron? lol Calm down.

    Kobe has a complete game, and he can pass. But his role is similar to MJ. Score and fill the in holes that the team needs. Simple. He has bad judgement when it comes to shooting tho..

    Lebron has a complete game too, and can score. His role… well I dont know WTF it is. Do everything? He is great, however, I feel like he plays to get “his”. And usually stops some ball movement.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Jukai:
    I missed you mentioning the fouls.
    And, I’m arguing that Kristic would give the Celtics more all around versatility.
    Offensively, Kristic is more versatile. That is not worse in every way. They nearly even out statistically, also. And of course Kristic is a better scorer for his career.
    He’ll be more reliable at the foul line in Playoff Crunch time, too.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    @nbk – are you following that CBS news line again? Is that your source?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    nbk – Someone who’s shooting 38% from the field and 26% from 3 is not the answer for the Bulls, though solid defense is always welcome.

  • JTaylor21

    Do you people understand that JGreen’s overrated and I could go as far as average I mean what is he really good at? He’s a terrible rebounder for someone his size, he’s an an average defender, he thinks he’s a better shooter than he really is, he doesn’t attack the rim like someone with his athleticism should and he doesn’t have the ball handling skills needed to be a great 3 nor the size to be a great 4. I mean BOS gave a player that’s hard to find; someone that rebounds and defends the paint for a player that can be found anywhere and people are talking about him like it makes Bos a better team.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    JTaylor21:
    Do you think 6 points and 8 rebounds and a block or 2 is hard to replace?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    And, people like to lament about how Perkins “plays Howard so well”.
    Howard consistently gets off against Perkins. That notion, in my opinion, is an exaggeration.

  • JTaylor21

    The Philosopher, see with guys like Perks, it’s not all about the stats. Those kind of guys never get the touches/mins to put up big numbers but best believe that when they are out there, they have twice the impact of a guy on the outcome of a game opposed to someone like JGreen who plays big minutes yet his impact on a game is minor. Also on the DHow tip, it’s more about Perks being the only player in the L that guards Howard straight up without needing a double team and doing a good job than the numbers howard drop on him. It’s was the same situation with Dumars and MJ, Dumars would never shutdown MJ in a million years but he made it that much harder for MJ to score than any other guard in the L.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    People keep on talking about LeBron as a ball stopper.
    Ok, name an elite player in the league who doesn’t hold the ball a lot?
    But, even that tendency isn’t the reason for Wade’s struggles. Watch the games. Wade gets a lot of touches. He’s just not focused. Remember when he had a killer mid range? Where the hell is it? Remember when he used the glass all the time? Not anymore?
    Remember when he was absolutely unstoppable on the fastbreak even if it was 1 on 2? Gone.
    Dude is still nice, but he doesn’t have that same focus he once had that made him so amazing to watch. At least not in my opinion.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: Jordan was a better all-around defender than Kobe because he’d constantly grab steals off his man and could sky to block shots from anywhere. Kobe didn’t have the athleticism Jordan had so he couldn’t do all that and guard his man. But in terms of pure lockdown ability? It’s a toss-up in my mind. Both were incredibly crafty at denying their man the ball, both could prevent their many from getting to the basket without fouling… I give Kobe the edge cause Jordan would concentrate on the passing lanes a tad too much at times.
    I get it that Kobe should probably stop winning all-defensive nods at this point.

  • Omar

    What does everyone think that the Bulls are the team to beat? I thibk they’re the most likely to lose in round 1. ORL, BOS, MIA and NY have NO REASON to worry about CHI. I know y’all love Derrick Rose but damn, they’re not going to win anything.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    Yeah! What does everyone think that?!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    JTaylor21:
    Understood, but why can’t Perkins play 35 minutes? Foul trouble, stamina, durability.
    Why doesn’t Perk get touches? He has bad hands. He’s predictable, methodical, cannot shoot. He tries to put the ball on the floor in error.
    Green, he played with a superstar. He’s not going to do what he’s totally capable of in that system. I think your underrating Green. Just my opinion.
    With Rondo, who looks primarily to set up players, Green should flourish. Especially in the open court.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Enig I was only pointing him out cuz every swingman is supposedly going to Chicago, Diesel I got that one from Stein_Line_HQ

  • Playa

    hey philosopher, dwight is constantly going off on anyone nowadays,he’s just THAT GOOD NOW.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Philo: I mean… have you actually watched Perkins? Bad hands? Huh?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I think Boston should sign Leon Powe.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    When The Celtics do turn the ball over, it’s usually because Perkins missed a pass, or he’s trying to dribble.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    And, yeah. Howard is in a class all his own as far as centers go this year.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, fair points but I give the edge to MJ based on his athletic ability and size/strength. I mean there’s a reason why Kobe doesn’t guard guys like PP and Bron because they would overpower him but you couldn’t do that with MJ. Even before he went all Randy Macho Man Savage and put on weight as he got older, he was still strong enough to guard bigger players. Also his instincts combined with cat-like quickness made him a better on-the-ball defender than Kobe.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: Perhaps even two years ago, Kobe woulda guarded Pierce and Bron. And he woulda done as good of a job as anyone could. Jordan was a better athlete but that helps him more off the ball than it does isolating a guy. I can’t jump for sh*t, pretty slow, but my most valuable asset is my defense, it’s the only reason I made my high school team. I know it’s an awful to compare myself to NBA level talents, but I think it’s a theory that holds true: isolation defenders aren’t the most amazing of athletes. Bell, Battier, Bowen (lotta bs, huh?) weren’t known for their speed or hops.
    If it makes you feel better, I feel it’s close man-to-man but Jordan separates from Kobe getting steals and blocks, and the dude doesn’t gamble as much as most ball thief, he picks people’s pockets (although probably didn’t get calls as much as he should cause he was MF’ingJ).

  • Pharoah

    Remember Wade is still dealing with a few injuries and that might have something to do with him struggling.

  • T-Money

    so playoffs rotation: bibby-wade-lebron-bosh-dampier with miller-murphy-haslem-chalmers or house off the bench. i can live with that!

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