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Wednesday, March 9th, 2011 at 8:40 am  |  230 responses

Post Up: Cold As Ice

The Heat lose their fifth straight; the Lakers keep rolling along.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Yo kids. Had a busy night, and didn’t get to take in the games the way I would’ve like to—hence the short write-ups. Apologies in advance. Let’s get to it.

Philadelphia 110, Indiana 100

The Sixers are red hot. All five starters and two bench players scored in double figures, as Philly shot 51.1 percent from the field and picked up its seventh victory in eight tilts.Can they carry this momentum into the postseason, or will it be all fizzled out by then?

Golden State 95, Cleveland 85

Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry combined for 47, leading the Warriors over the lowly Cavs. Besides that, um, Baron Davis (19 points) returned to Golden State?

Milwaukee 95, Washington 76

If they want a shot at the eighth spot in the East, the Bucks are gonna have to get moving, beginning, like, yesterday. This was a decent start, as they straight-up dominated a weak Wizards squad. Brandon Jennings led Milwaukee with 23, while Jordan Crawford (!) scored a team-high 22 for Washington.

L.A. Lakers 101, Atlanta 87

The Lakers are making a hell of a case that they’re clearly the League’s best team these days, huh? They won their eighth straight last night, defeating the Hawks easily in the ATL. Kobe Bryant dropped 26, and Andrew Bynum contributed 16 points and 16 boards to the cause.

Portland 105, Miami 96

Something strange tells me this is the one you guys are going to wanna to talk about. The Heat dropped their fifth in a row, the first time all season they’ve lost so many consecutively. Dwyane Wade (38 points) and LeBron James (31 points) both played well, but they got zero assistance from anyone, starting at Chris Bosh (7 points) and moving all the way through the quiet bench. LaMarcus Aldridge led Portland with 26.

Phoenix 113, Houston 110

Starting in place of the injured Channing Frye, Hakim Warrick went off, putting in 32 points and helping the Suns take down the Rockets at home. Steve Nash actually missed a free throw in the contest’s final minute, providing Houston with a chance to tie, but Brad Miller bricked what would’ve been the game-tying trey. Kyle Lowry dropped 32 for the Rockets, who are now back to .500 at 33-33.

Last Call: The Homie Nicolas Batum is my man and all, but Bron Bron did him silly on this one.

(H/T: @outsidethenba)

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  • http://slamonline.com nazzzi

    Damn. The Heat have lost all their confidence and identity. Bosh told the press that he doesn’t feel comfortable in his situation with the team. He said he needs to have a talk with some people to clear the air. Sounds like he’s tired of being left out. The way they whine in public it’s no wonder why people don’t really respect them as the “superstars” they’d like people to see them as.

  • http://nba.com gp23

    Im still going with the lakers and heat to be in the Finals.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    This loss actually made me feel good.

  • SpamsLots

    Bosh needs to learn how to be a mean interior guy. It’s not like he doesn’t have the physical gifts. He just doesn’t have the determination to be reliable in there. Lots of people knock Lebron’s mental toughness, but Bosh is a cream puff in comparison.

  • Playa

    Man, I actually feel sorry for the Heat… I think I’m gonna cry…

  • Scott

    Portland is going to be a very tough team to beat four times in a seven game series. Portland 1 thru 8 can match up talent wise with anybody in the league.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Skip Bayless gave me a good chuckle with this tweet, “Bosh Spice’s production tonite might bring LeBron, DWade to tears: 7 pts, 4 rebounds in 40 minutes?! 2 and a quarter men.”

  • James

    the heat are unraveling after the all-star break. its obvious. and they thought adding old ass mike bibby was gonna help. GO LAKERS!!

  • KB8toSG8

    LA just woke up………and the Heat face them next. Can’t wait lol…….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    I’m still sayin that Miami is going to be a totally different team in the playoffs…but this is still hilarious to see.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    I expect King James 2 have a monstrous game against the Lakers tomorrow, a 50-10-10 game.
    LONG… LIVE… THE KING!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    I CAN’T WAIT to watch the Lakers go into Miami with big heads. If there is one team the Heat have confidence against, it’s the Lakers. lol

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Soooo is it still to early to hit the panic button? Has any championship team ever lost five in a row?

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Or they’ll be blown out…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Wow, entertaining game last night. Gerald Wallace is a great addition to this Blazer squad, they’re a pretty scary playoff team when you look at their roster and how well Aldridge is playing. Gerald Wallace actually overpowered LeBron on some drives to the rim. I almost couldn’t believe it. Dwade and Bron were both really good and they still lose. I’ve got a feeling the Lakers will blow the Heat out, no disrespect to Heat supporters.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Even if King James has big game that doesn’t mean sh*t. He hasn’t had a ‘bad’ game in these loses, if you look at his stats, he’s actually been really effective, it’s a team game you know? I know superstars can change the game but still… you need more than 2 1/2 against great teams

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    *a big game, * Losses

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    Andrew is finally coming into his own this season. But it’s already march, so those knees are getting ready to break our hearts.

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    Gerald wallace just showed lebron, bosh and wade what it’s like to be an effective second/third option. He was a beast last night. This blazers team is no cakewalk, they are getting scarier every game after the asg.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck9nyiwaTIg IAMORANGE4EVER

    Phil Jackson takes shot at Heat: “This is the NBA: No Boys Allowed. Big boys don’t cry. But, if you’re going to do it, do it in the toilet where no one can see.” WOW! Phil must have a selective memory, or misremember Fish and Kobe crying in ’03. Click my name and witness both Derek Fisher and Kobe Bryant crying like little girls (not that there’s anything wrong with that, especially in the real season) on the bench for everyone to see after the San Antonio Spurs ended their run in the 2003 WCF.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Why, E? Rock bottom, no place to go but up now?

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    @ Jahmai: I mean a “we are not losing 2nite” big game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    B, I’ll say a couple of things and let everyone continue to enjoy….Dwyane had more possessions in his favor (something everyone was claiming they needed, Spo is about to be sh*tcanned, Chalmers has taken a step forward since Bibby came on board and Joel Anthony threw a ball to no one. I took solace in all of those things. Also, Lebron is shooting 60% from the field over the last 8 games or so. Be on the lookout for a possible press conference this afternoon. Enjoy your day, boys, I’m out for work. Oh…and the Blazers are nice.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    And Bryan, there’s still plenty of place down 2 go (blow out in the hand of Lakers, shots at each other in the media, more and more tears…
    What an entertaining season

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Not saying I believe this will happen, but imagine if Spo is sh*tcanned and the Heat win a championship? Wow.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Man, if they fire Spo TODAY… Wow. That’s all I can say on that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Not too far away, Jukey…..gotta go for real now.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Oh and which was worse: Joel Anthony airballing a dunk earlier in the season, or him passing the ball to a wide open fan sitting courtside, last night?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I’m back.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I was kinda thinking that Jukai. I mean, it’s not like it hasn’t happened before down in Miami.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    I think it’s too late to fire Spo. I was calling for his head since about the third game, after hearing him say “we haven’t run any offensive sets cause we want to get our defense down”
    But I can’t see any good coming from firing him now. What can they do in a month?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Win.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    How about that Mike Miller? Dude is so talented, he should play point.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    The Heat need to drink some WINNING Tiger Blood. Ha ha ha.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Here’s some old school that will brighten EVERYONE’S day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYvVj12EK4w&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-1r-3-HM

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    @Eboy are you suggesting a coaching change with 18 games left in the season? I dont see that happening. Maybe during the off season.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Isnt Nene a FA next season? I hope Riles has plans..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    LA was killing Bosh in the post. Bosh’s legs were so gone last night. 3/11 from the field and still settling on the jumpshot. and now he asking for more touches in the “POST”? Bosh will be trade bait for next season for a legitimate power forward aka an inside presence. Him or Mike Miller.

  • Scott

    Stockton!!! Did anyone see the Gonzaga and St. Mary’s game the other nite? Stockton looks the same now as he did 20 years ago.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Another fan made video about Lebron’s decision. Well the video is saying his mistake rather in not joining Chicago. Chicago fans starting to feel themselves a little bit, but I guess they got a right to. I wish I had something to cheer for.
    Washington Wizards NBA Champions 2087.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI6A5zKIiCo

  • T-Money

    3 things: 1- The cohesion b/n Bron and Wade is the LEAST of Miami’s concerns. For real. 2- Mike Miller needs to sit. I’m not backing down from what I said about him because he did shoot 48% from 3 last year but he’s not been stepping up to the plate. James Jones, your turn. 3- Go on YouTube and watch CWebb’s rant about the Heat. My feelings exactly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Oh so many LOLZ. Shots out to CWebb…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Royal

    I really would not be surprised if the Heat beat the Lakers…But even if they do it would not solve any of their problems

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    “What you gave me was a high school speech.”

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I love it when cats backpedal…

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Can we talk about how amazing Steve Nash is? He’s averaging 11.4 assists a game, at 37. Who comes closest to that? John Stockton, 8.4
    Wow!

  • T-Money

    BC: If you’re talking about my comment on Mike Miller, I hardly see that as backpedaling. He was a good acquisition in July 2010 because of his past achievement and that’s why all the top teams wanted him, Lakers included. BUT he hasn’t done anything this year, that’s the reality of the situation. He’s not a superstar, how can you justify letting him shoot himself out of a slump with gunners like House and Jones on the bench? / E: stop getting my hopes up with your cryptic comments about Spo getting fired. (for the record, I’ve been very consistent with my take on Spo)

  • allenp

    I hope the Heat can start winning so Myles will stop taunting me by text message … lol
    Webbed had always been more intelligent than most people realized. And he is completely right. Just play ball. People laughed a Riley for “15 Strong” but somehow he made it work.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    I think it’s interesting that some Heat fans are using the “Now that expectations are low, they’ll play better in the post-season” defense. Meanwhile, some of those same Heat fans pointed to some of the Lakers’ regular season defeats as evidence the team was in trouble. The Blazers are pretty good, and the addition of Wallace makes them better. Bottom line, the Heat are not that good of a team. When your bench is near the bottom of the league in scoring, you’re going to lose to good teams.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Also, Spo should be fired, if only for outing crying players to the media, and then complaining that the media was making a story out of nothing. What exactly did he expect to happen when he made the crying public knowledge?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I have some insider info too…the heat aren’t going to sign a legitimate PG or C, they are going to run Bron and Wade into the ground, Chris Bosh doesn’t want any part of the post and their bench gets creakier with every passing minute. Look for a second round exit sometime this spring…

  • Fat Lever

    “Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, but 5….5 losses in a row”.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    BC – this isn’t rock bottom. There’s at least 3 more losses coming in the next 6 games.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    The best part of this streak is that you know the game is over if the opposing team is up by at least 3 points in the final 4 minutes. So you have a good 4 minutes to enjoy the win and ROFL ,as Myles says,while the game is still going on.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    T-Money, you sang Miller’s praises to the high heavens a few months back, even when dudes tried to tell you that you were being overly ambitious in regards to the way he would contribute to the team as if he were a “superstar” (remember the PG argument?).
    And this was AFTER he injured the thumb on his SHOOTING HAND. I specifically brought that up and you by saying that there is no way he could be effective after an injury like that and you dismissed it too.
    So yeah, you now saying he needs to sit is backpedaling. Be careful though, I don’t want you to fall and hurt yourself.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Co-sign Fat Lever. This whole Heat situation is a perfect example of why humility is important, especially when dealing with the media. They build you up, and take pleasure in your demise equally. D-Wade’s “woe is me” comment about the world getting what it wants when the Heat lose is one of the lamest things I’ve heard come out of a player’s mouth in recent memory.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    As much as it physically PAINS me to say this just as it did when I agreed with him at the time… 100% cosign on Bryan Crawford.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    The Lakers are looking pretty scary right now. Bynum has been playing like the best Center in the L since the all star break and Kobe has looked like the MVP and probaly best player in the L. LBJ put up some great numbers last night but he made some bad plays in the fourth like the missed 3 pt when Wade had his mojo going, the charge, and the and 1 by Gerald Wallace.

  • Fat Lever

    What did C-Webb say last night? Heat have to go like 18-1 for the rest of the year to match last year’s Cavs record? 7-11 might have been playing with less talent, at least in the starting 5 last year, but guys knew their roles and performed in them. Something to be said about guys given clear, defined roles, accepting them, and performing in them.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Mo Williams complimented Lebron well at least in the regualar season because he was a great shot maker. One player can’t have a team win 60+ games alone contrary to popular belief though. Those guys in Cleveland were pretty effective with Lebron drawing alot of attention.

  • T-Money

    again, he DID play back up point guard for hubie brown in memphis and for a period in minnesota. those are facts, not my opinion. miami decided to not explore that. and for the shooting, it’s not physical but mental. i don’t care about the misses (he’s still around 40%), i care about the shots he refuses to take. be aggressive, dude. i stand by my assessment of his game when he came back from the injury but he hasn’t performed – should i just stupidly ignore his output to prove a point and blindly say that he’s doing just fine?

  • Cool Dude

    There is a very real chance the Heat go on a 10 game losing streak, facing the Lakers, Grizzlies, Spurs, Thunder, and the Hawks all up next. That would be epic.

  • T-Money

    SG: and where did those 60+ take them? quick: what was boston’s records last year?

  • bill breedley

    oh how the heat have been exposed!!! even if they actually manage to muster a win against the lakers tomorrow( though i doubt it will happen) for their mighty ducks moment of the year, they will still be the same soft team that will get whooped out of the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @T-money…They ran into disciplined, unselfish, and better teams. Teams found it easy to gameplan against a Lebron team in playoffs. As much as he passes and gets assists he still holds on to the ball to long and disrupts the offense. I’m not hating on the guy but its the truth. Those Cavs teams were fun to watch though.

  • T-Money

    So E, tell me more about what you’re hearing on Spo.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Some people are just so afraid to stand up and say, “You know what, I was wrong…”
    There is no shame in that, unless you’re the type of person that just wants to be right all the time. But the reality is, nobody is right all the time, they just think they are.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @T-money…You ever notice that Bosh is never sitting with Wade and James in the press conferences? I see chemistry problems developing…

  • T-Money

    SG: sigh. Bron was Cleveland’s playmaker in the halfcourt. How can you disrupt the offense when you’re asked to initiate the offense? The common mistake in the Bron pounding the ball argument is comparing his role to classic 3s like Melo or KD. You have to compare Bron’s pounding to the “pounding” done by D-Rose and other point guards because that’s the role he had in Cleveland: create for others. That’s an old argument anyways.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Heat have issues that are fixable. They have lost 5 straight winnable games, big deal. I’m sorry but there is still just like yesterday, no reason to start freaking out, there is some precedent to change some things, there are guys that are struggling, but ehh, they are still 22 games over .500, and as crazy as it may sound, still getting used to each other. Plus idk about ya’ll but if I was Miami I would want to experience this stuff now rather then in May/June

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @T-money…Well that is the past. However, this Heat meltdown has overshadowed LA smashing its opponents lately and Bynum playing up to his potential, Artest shutting every premier SG/SF down, and Kobe regaining his MVP form.

  • T-Money

    SG: Not really, he gets dressed quicker and goes first because he wants to. He’s waited for Wade and James a couple of times. And it’s been that way since training camp, really. / nbk: agreed. but they do have to be fixed before the playoffs. e.g., joel anthony can not play, under any circumstances.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @t-money, to answer your question, the Boston Celtics won 66 games the year they won the chip. And they only lost three games in a row once. They also had a very good regular season record against the other playoff favorites that year. I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make by bringing up the 08 Celtics.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I’m personally more concerned with what’s goin on inbetween Bosh’s ears, he shoots more jumpshots from game to game, infact he might be giving up dribbling for lent. I sincerely don’t think Anthony will get minutes in meaningful playoff minutes, unless ofcourse Spoelstra is really as bad as some people think he is. (I know he’s “bad” but I don’t think he’s mentally handicapped)

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @nbk…They have a great record but are HORRIBLE against playoff teams which are the teams they will see come April/May. I’m not buying getting use to eachother stuff because NY isn’t having that problem and when LA got Gasol there was no problem like that. Heat fans need to stop making excuses and maybe realize that a fantasy team is not always the best team. They have a horrible bench which I don’t see as fixable and Bosh is getting frustrated as hell which may not be fixable and no post presence which is not fixable. They have also lost that ‘aura’ about them that had teams scared of them and second guessing if they could beat Miami. Everyone who plays Miami now is confident they can win. They’ve completely lost the mental edge they had on opponent. Also, they have lost 4 games they could have won. SA rocked them by 30 so I don’t think that was winnable.

  • T-Money

    diesel: i was talking about last year’s celtics team that came within a quarter of a ‘ship. what was their reg season record?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    No lie, I’ve been saying Fire Spo for awhile now. hahahaha.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    50 wins, but they beat a lot of playoff teams during the regular season. And that was a championship team, knowing they could get back, pacing themselves. This is a Heat team, that’s never been there together. I don’t think they can just turn it on like that. If they can, they would have saved themselves some scrutiny and turned it on a few games ago. I’m done for today though. Props to you t-money for at least dealing with everyone today. Eboy becomes a shy guy when his team’s not winning and he can’t make fun of other people.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    New York is different from game to game, giving up 118 to Cleveland then holding OKC to 87 or whatever, they aren’t used to each other. Miami wasn’t used to each other when they won 24 of 25, basketball is a rhythm sport, and when your team is in rhythm it can make everything else look like its in place even when its far from it. P.S. – Miami needs to take the chance playing Mike Miller more minutes, and not because it’ll help them right now, but because it should help Miller get confident and comfortable with his role on the team so he can contribute in the playoffs. Its not like he’s a different player then he has been his whole career, he’s just in a completely different situation.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @nbk…What do you think of Lamarcus Aldridge game? More physical Chris Bosh to you?

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    How do you NOT start freaking out when you lose five in a row right before the playoffs and your coach says “I have no idea how to fix these problems”
    How?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    In a sense, I wouldn’t use a comparison to explain him, he is one of the top 5ish post players in the league much more complete then Bosh down there, decent spot up game, decent range (both shooting and on defense), defends the pick and roll well. I see him as a top 5 PF in a year or two. He really worked on his body in the offseason got a lot stronger, but still has more to go. Defensively he has issues against bigger 4′s and all 5′s.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    I bet chicago is still pissed they traded him. One of the most mind boggling draft day trades in last five years.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Jukai, simple, the playoffs are 7 straight games against the same team. The regular season is a line of guys waiting to kick you in the stomach. These guys knows that, well atleast some of the players do, Spoelstra & Bosh are new to this position. Either way, these guys know it’ll be different in the playoffs and they also know that they aren’t playing up to their own proven ability which actually can be a source of confidence in a time like this. I’m not saying the Heat don’t need to look in the mirror, or that Spoelstra doesn’t need to change some things about the teams gameplan because they obviously do, just that there is still 15+ games left, and the comfort in knowing that in the playoffs you see the same team repeatedly for 2 weeks and that your better then just about everyone. Its like playing me in a shooting contest, you might stand a chance if its best of 5 or whatever, but if we go best of 100, i’m gonna wipe the floor with you, simply because we have taken as much luck and “surprise” as possible out of the equation.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Tough go around for Spoelstra. I’ve been questioning him since the Rudy Gay game winner in The King’s face. It’s like he’s in awe of this group, and he figures that any old “joe toilet” can coach these guys. I think that he’s particularly in awe of The King. To the point to where he’s not even running consistent plays at the end of games. Especially close games.
    He’ll let The King have the ball 30 feet out, and see what happens.
    Great coaches have a plethora of plays to get a guy a good shot at the end of games. Larry Bird had one play in particular that was very effective at the end of games. He (Spoelstra) can use plenty of decoy plays…
    Pat needs to come downstairs in my opinion.

  • JTaylor21

    CWebb is right and I’m glad that someone on TV finally had the nerve to say something like that instead of giving us the same old tired cliche answers that BSPN always gives.
    Enough with all “the world is against us” and “they are happy to see us lose” comments.
    Enough with all the “trust your teammates”, “we have to find a way to get over the hump”, “grab onto a rope” and “we are brothers” BS that Slostra always goes to after every loss. Just shut-up, go out there and compete because so far this team has been full of talk and no show.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Why is Spo getting so much heat? He got the Heat to the playoffs last year and they were very competitive against the Celtics. He makes mistakes but what coach doesn’t?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    I also believe in a theory in which Pat Riley doesn’t want to fire “his guy”. He wants to be known as a great talent scout in regards to coaches, as well as players.
    Then, if he comes down to coach these guys and doesn’t win with them, people in certain circles will begin to question how great he really is.
    Spoelstra shot himself in the foot with… “Crygate”.
    He’ll be lucky if they continue to go to battle for him. If he rides out the season.
    AND he’s accomplished nothing by NBA standards.
    A deer in headlights.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Its glaring, the team runs certain sets that are wildly successful in the first half or first 3 quarters of games then totally abandons them in the 4th/2nd half. Spoelstra is the coach, even if its the players that refuse to run his plays he still has the ability to bench them. Whether he’s willing or smart enough to deal with the criticism after he makes a power move like benching one of those two the second they improv their own late game offense is a different matter.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Philo with more genius.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Co-sign the Philospher about shooting himself in the foot with crygrate. I mean, WHY would you do that to your team? LOL He clearly didn’t think that through…

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    You guys will be all over him definitely if he benches Lebron. He’s in a lose-lose situation. When the team wins its because of Lebron but when they lose its his fault. I feel bad for the guy because he’s a good defensive minded coach as evidenced last year when Miami was one of the best defensive teams in NBA.

  • JTaylor21

    Philosopher, so you’re telling me that if Riley decides to come on down to coach this team and they fail in the playoffs, people will start to question just how good of a coach he really is, really? Are you telling me that those chips he won with LA and MIA all of a sudden disappear into thin air? PRiley will always be considered a great coach around NBA circles and nothing can change that. People still want him to coach this heat squad even after MIA won only 15 gms the last time he coached.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    SG – What the media and random NBA fanatics think is irrelevant, if he made a move like that, it would send a message about who the leader of the team is, and about who dictates the gameplan. He’s going down with the ship either way, might as well actually play the role your likely going to bite the bullet for, unless ofcourse your OK with being a failure who let his players walk all over him. I’m sure he will get another job if that’s his rep

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Jtaylor21:
    No, not this year. No one will question him this year, I don’t think. I agree with Jukai that this season is too late. But with Riley, you never know. He can pull it off. He’s done bigger things with lesser talent, which was also pointed out.
    But, if he comes in next year and doesn’t win, then trust and believe, someone will start to whisper.

  • T-Money

    SG: watch the games. if Bron had gone 11-30 with 8 TOs yesterday, i’d be the first in line to blame him. but that’s not what happened: bron and wade were BOSS yesterday. they didn’t put joel in for 20 mins, they didn’t close the games with bibbby and chalmers in the backcourd and wade at the 3 (wtf). they are not the ones who haven’t been able to zero in on a rotation 60 games in. his defensive system is also very rigid: it works most of the time to pack the pain and overplay the screens but when san an is tearing you apart you need to switch it up, go to plan b. but there’s never a plan b. he just started working the two man game with wade and bron (with bron as the screener) – analysts and fans have been asking for that since pre-season. no, spo is not off the hook. especially when he’s serving us cheap tim robbins lines after every loss.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @nbk…that’s a great point. I’m excited to see Thursdays game and what the outcome will be if LA hammers them. I’m also reading that if the Lakers continue to surge a lot of voters will probably give their vote to KB24 for MVP.

  • http://www.boogliewillaims.com Boing Dynasty

    Anyone who follows Skip Bayless on twitter needs to reevaluate their life.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    SG: I mean, c’mon… I’m down on Lebron, but do what T-Money said and watch the game…
    I’m beginning to come around to the people who think that Wade should be head alpha dog and Lebron second fiddle, but it’s not because Lebron’s failing. It’s cause Wade’s failing. Lebron is still putting up extraordinary stats, and Wade is the one chucking bricks in big time games. If Wade can’t handle this easier second fiddle role, then give him the ball and have Lebron be on the sidelines. Maybe that’s what is best, if Wade simply can’t play in the role he is given.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @T-money…I only watched the fourth quarter because I was watching my Lakers destroy the Hawks but Wade was killing down the stretch and LBJ didn’t do much in the fourth besides make a few mistakes and get two dunks but Portland was just the better team yesterday. Portland deserves all the credit for last nite not Miami or Spo.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Jukai…You can’t say its just Wade putting up bricks. The big three just simply disappear and start putting up bricks in the end of the game. Wade is the top fourth quarter scorer in L for a reason. I know LBJ is their best player but he has failed just as many times as Wade. I simply don’t get why LBJ has struggled in the fourth so many times this year after dominating the first three. Don’t let the stats fool you.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Derrick Rose, Dirk Nowitzki, or Dwight Howard better win the MVP award, its been between those three for a while now. Miami has two of the top five players in the league (even this year), they can’t have a “most valuable player” they have most valuable “players” who still don’t mesh very well together. And Kobe shouldn’t get the award simply because of his stretch of individually bad outings and consistent hucking that lead to his coach outing him in the media as worse for the offensive system then Ron Artest.

  • T-Money

    jukai: i think you’re looking in the wrong direction. wade and lebron are two unselfish and smart basketball players and actually like each other. the dynamics between them will take care of itself. there is nothing to fix there. if i were miami’s coach that would be the least of my concerns – those guys are gonna bring it in the playoffs. the defensive system, the rotation, the playcalling, the bench, the point guard play, the slumping shooters – those issues are real. bron and wade? they understand each other and you could see yesterday that wade brought the ball up more to initiate the offense.

  • T-Money

    and for bosh… dude, could you start by grabbing more than 4 rebounds in 40 minutes and rolling to the basket from time to time before running your mouth? yanno, nobody’s forcing you to pop on every screen..

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @nbk…Rose has struggled as well and D12 cost his team a game by getting suspended. Kobe has had just as many bad games as others and has his team surging right now while averaging 25, 5, and 5 on 47% shooting on a bad hand. I think you are bias on saying he shouldn’t get it. The games where you said he got criticized were against Memphis and Celtics and he shot a good % and his teammates were struggling shooting and turning the ball over. Check the stats. He did what he had to do to give his team a boost.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    f#ck yeah TrailBlazers!! LaMarcus dominated Christina Bosh..@Adam Figman: dude, the story is not MIA losing is POR winning, fu#kin sold outs! WELCOME to the nation CRASH WALLACE!

  • T-Money

    completely unrelated: atlanta, the city, should be ashamed of itself. the knicks and the lakers basically got extra home games this week. and the team store was selling lakers merch before the game. i don’t care how much money they made that’s freaking weak.

  • JTaylor21

    In the long run it’s going to come down to either Bron or Wade having to play off the ball a lot more than they are doing now. All this taking turns initiating the offense isn’t a recipe for success.
    Either Bron or Wade has to give up the “primary playmaker” role and decide to become more of a backdoor cuts, moving without the ball, playing the baseline type player leaving the ball handling role to the other guy. All this taking turns running isos and PnR while the other guy stands in the corner is not going to cut it. Also keep this on the low, Bron has quietly become a good post-up player the last few weeks but somehow they stop going to him down there after a few successful attempts. They should be trying to get Bron more touches in the post instead of Bosh.

  • Brian

    Kevin McHale on NBATV last night with about a minute to go in the game, “It’s all over but the crying!”

  • Brian

    There isn’t an offense in the world that will help the Heat as long as Bron and Wade gun for their own stats.
    I bet AI likes this Heat team.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    McHale and Webber had me LOLing last night on NBA TV

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    SG it’s hard to explain, but LA is underachieving if anything, can’t give Kobe the MVP if he isn’t leading the team in a way that was expected in the preseason. Even if they are surging at the right time.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    I asked LeBron for change for a dollar but he only gave me 75 cents since he never gives you the 4th quarter.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Anton with the dagger!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    for LeBron to catch himself/cavs from last year the Heat have to go like 18-0. And I still would take them over that Cleveland team in a playoff series, no hesitation.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Chris Webber, what a state of the (Heat) union summary: “The proof is in the pudding”.
    Way to say your mind, you eloquent sumbiatch.
    That was mesmerizing.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Whoa, Anton!

  • JTaylor21

    Did someone hear what Jerry Riensdorf said? He said that the Bulls can win 4 chips. I mean I have no problem with that statement because confidence is important in their line of work but just imagine the kind of backlash and criticism a player would get if they made a statement like that. The media and fans would be all over them, calling them selfish, arrogant egomaniacs but a GM or Owner says that and there’s no backlash. I know why but I won’t go there because it might start a riot. Let me end by saying that color tv wasn’t yet invented.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    wow, anton ftw

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    jtaylor – Jerry Reinsdorf said that baring injuries, there’s a CHANCE the Bulls could win 4 championships in the next few years. He didn’t come out and count off the rings he’s going to win. This was a direct answer to a question during an interview… he certainly didn’t rent out an arena and a smoke machine. That being said, I don’t like the comment. There’s no need for him to go out there and put any unnecessary pressure on the team. I do like it if it means the owner thinks we’re close so he’s willing to spend some money next season.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Co-sign Diesel.
    Reinsdorf always said he’d be willing to spend more money and go over the luxury tax if the Bulls are close to winning a title in his mind.
    Looks like he’s finally gonna open his wallet.
    But yeah, no need to put pressure on the players like that.

  • JTaylor21

    Bulls aint winning Jack sh*t. Maybe a 1st round. Nothing after that…oh yea Enigmatic’s mom was at my crib getting pounded out last night.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Taylor if that’s you, you can be a real douche sometimes.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Just when the comments section was climbing back to respectability again…

  • JTaylor21

    Just kidding…about the Bulls not going anywhere. They can definitely make the ECF.

  • T-Money

    diesel: saying there’s a chance you could win A championship is putting yourself in the running. saying there’s a chance you could win FOUR championships is bragging. no different than what bron said (which was obviously stupid, how about starting with one, champ?).

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    Taylor is, at times, ridiculous, but I refuse to believe 2:40 comment was him.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I agree with Nicholas.
    And I think that no matter how improbable it may be, I still would like to see the Heat make the Finals this year to see how folks would handle that change of fortune.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Did anyone else here about the Hawks team store inside of their arena selling Kobe jersies? What the hell is that?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Not sure what Reinsdorf was thinking with that one.
    And would the Bulls’ four titles be before or after the Heat’s eight?
    If after, then they’d both have to wait for the Cavs to win one, cause as we all know, the Cavs are gonna win a title before LeBron.

  • JTaylor21

    Wowzer, come on Enigmatic, you’re better than that. You complained about me not knowing that the fake enigmatic wasn’t you yet here you’re falling for the same trick.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Why are Hawks fans so enamored with the Lakers/Kobe?
    Is there a backstory to that?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    Enig wins today with the future-telling techniques of Miss Cleo.

  • JTaylor21

    I’ve no problem with Jerry and Bron both predicting chips before they happen but I do have a problem with no one criticizing him for making that statement but everyone including bulls fans on here stated that they despise Bron and the heat for doing the exact same thing.
    Doesn’t make any sense to me, you can’t be up in arms over something a player says yet GMs, Coaches and Owners are giving the leeway to say what ever they want.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    JTaylor, I never said I thought that was you. I said “Just when the comments section was climbing back to respectability again… “
    In other words, here we go again with the lame people using other’s accounts ish.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    JT there is a huge difference between being confident that your team can win and making an exaggerated prediction as to how well you think your team will do, and throwing a championship style celebration because your team signed 3 guys and had 5 total on the roster. Then proceed to talk about how you plan to win a championship every single year, like championships come from osmosis as a result of superior talent. Reinsdorf atleast let his team prove they are regular season elite before he made his exaggerated aspirations public

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    And Reinsdorf didn’t put on a rap concert while saying so.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NObody rapped. They just danced and screamed.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Allen where is that article you were waiting to have posted?

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @enigmatic…I grew up in ATL and we have a lot of lakers fans in the A. The hawks have always sucked so they have no true fanbase plus alot of people here are from different areas of country and alot of people from AL, MS, TN who are fans of Lakers drive to the A to see them. That game sells out quick as hell always.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    They didn’t “rent out” the arena either….they own it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    Eboy is back. Today is wonderful.

  • JTaylor21

    NBK, come on now. It doesn’t matter whether it was on a forklift or during an interview it’s the same ish. They both predicted that their team would win chips before they happened, none of that other ish matters.
    Also since when does RS success mean that a team is going to win multiple chips? Looks like Cleveland’s overwhelming RS success followed by consecutive playoff failures hasn’t taught us anything yet. Can we at least wait until the playoffs to see how a team performs before we start running off at the mouth?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I has work out of the office. I’m back for a minute. In case any one was wondering (stage 5 stalker Diesel) my thoughts on the game were posted early this morning….and yes, Mr. Spoelstra is on the gang plank…all that is needed now is the replacement…and no, he doesn’t own stock in Brill Cream.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    has-had

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @nbk – Allen’s piece is up already. I think.
    @SG – Gotcha, thanks for the info.
    Also, I gotta say I thought LeBron and Wade handled themselves a lot better in the postgame press conference last night than they did following the Bulls loss.
    They sounded more mature, less pouty. And LeBron, who on top of his 26, 7 and 7 also averages about 2.5 narcissistic comments per press conference, really only had a minor one when asked if he can maintain this pace playing so many minutes and he said something along the lines of him having a “world-class physique” so he’d be ok. LOL

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Like I wrote in my long-winded comment on allen’s post yesterday, I think the Heat’s watershed moment for change come’s tomorrow night against Lobe and his band of merrymen. I had the feeling that the malaise of the losing streak would still keep them down against Portland, but that Wade needed to be re-established. That happened. Bosh sucked a long one again. What can you do? LA was the most solid player on the court last night. Can’t hate that.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I’m just looking out for you Eboy.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    It’s up. Called “Tears are for Babies.” Look under blogs.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I didn’t say what Reisndorf said is right, or that I even think they will win ONE title, let alone four. Just that what Miami did was different, they basically celebrated having a roster that couldn’t by league rules complete a single NBA game like they won a championship, Reinsdorf responded to a question, and quite frankly I would have rather him say that then, well I think we are pretty good but man those guys in Miami are only gonna get better. So I ain’t trippin about it, he did it when Basketball was relevant and taking place, the Heat did it a month after the Lakers had their parade in the middle of Baseball season

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Eboy…You don’t think LA is gonna come in with a little extra motivation? Bynum is gonna feast on your boys inside and shut down the paint. I’m predicting another late game collapse or a blow out nothing in between.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Well SG, if there’s one team that SHOULD be motivated to play their as*es off, I think you’re looking at the wrong side of the ball. BTW, I heard the same sh*t the week before Christmas about how the Heat were going to be manhandled by Bynum/Gasol and we all saw how that worked out. I’m pretty confident the team will be ready to compete at a high level with the Lakers. I’m pretty sure that Mr. Bryant is going to try and do too much to try and “make a statement” about his teams loss back in December…it a process.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Allen that’s a good article man, good ish

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Kobe’s actually come out and said he can’t use that Christmas loss as motivation because things are so different now.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Eboy…Bynum has been looking like Bill Russell lately. Does the emergence of him lately concern you? They’ve also changed their defensive scheme which has paid off because they are holding opponents to 88 ppg during the win streak. I hope Ron Ron does a great job tomorrow on LBJ though but he always destroys the Lakers.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Bynum playing like Bill Russell?
    Red Auerbach is rolling in his grave.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Like Bill Russell, lmao, Andrew Bynum has not had a single 20pt or 20 rebound game this season. Bill Russell averaged 20 and 22 lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The only win in the streak I was impressed with was their win over SA. Then I thought about it and realized that two nights before the Spurs hammered the Heat and were flat from that game. I realize they’re a different team, but I could give a f*ck about Bynum’s “dominance”. Sporadically, he has a dominant month once a season. He’s due another injury soon…so there’s that too.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    All this spinning is making me dizzy…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Myles must not like riding the Teacups at the carnival.

  • http://slamonline.com Eboy

    Nbk: Basically, the Heat are still going to win the chip. They’ll smack the Bulls on the way to the finals, then take it from the Lakers in 7…oh yea, JTaylor’s mom looks like Carrot Top in a dress.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    LOl…you guys know what I mean. Teams are struggling to score inside when he is on the floor lately.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Eboy…excuses…excuses.

  • JTaylor21

    NBK, I think you’re missing the point. I’m not hating on what Reinsdorf said because I actually like when people are confident in their team’s ability to win but I do have a problem with you acting like there’s a difference between what both LeBron and him said based on bron saying it on a stage filled with smoke and before Mia had assembled a complete lineup. What’s the difference between saying it before the season started and saying it during the RS before the team has even played a single playoff game?

  • Michael

    wow Miami, dudes is hurtin right now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    What excuses? I’ve made none for the Heat except that the players they have are being mishandled for a coach that didn’t have the pedigree to handle a set of players like he was dealt. Part of the blame falls on Riley too. Trust me…NO ONE can tell me sh*t about the Heat’s struggles more than I can myself. I’m their worst critic at all times.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    JTaylor lets make it very very simple, just answer these questions, what’s the difference between a concert and an interview? A tv show and a press conference? “The decision” & the way Carlos Boozer went about announcing Chicago. Its not what was said, its how it was done.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Eboy…ok calm down. I will admit as a Lakers fan, Miami is the one team I hope LA does not face in the finals.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    That Heat celebration after the signing of the Big Three reminded me of “Nickelodeon’s Kids Choice Awards”. Don’t ask me why.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And if Riley can’t bring himself to cut the reigns on the dude….then his job may need to be questioned too. That’s real talk. I know he pulled the power play of getting the guys here (unprecedented)….but if it’s failing (like it is now)you have to correct it from the top…then work your way down. Should he wait and see them falter in the playoffs and THEN decide that “this first year was just the Beta test”. I mean, smart people knew that from the jump, but you also aren’t maximizing the teams potential leaving a less than potent head coach in charge of the experiment….he could have pulled the plug on Spo a month ago and had his (or someone else’s fingerprints and style on the team now…with another months worth of time put into it too heading into the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    NY would go crazy if the Heat/Knicks face off in the first round and the Knicks steal that series. I bet David Stern is salivating think about that possible matchup.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Seeing that your team is playing well and has shown the ability to compete, and having transformed themselves into one of the elite teams in the NBA this season and then making a comment on the ability of said team to win multiple championships based on that information is in NO WAY similar to throwing a premature party and announcing how many championships you’re going to win before even having a fully assembled roster. Duh…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    One of those things makes sense… The other is just pretty damn stupid.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    Lakers need no motivation. Would not surprise me at all to see them take the game as it is, another regular season game. Heat probably come out fired up and take the game form LA. That being said, it doesn’t much matter and statement games happen after the NCAA tourney, not before.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @SG – they shoulda slimed the big three…

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Me being a Lakers fan have the Lakers beating the Heat tommorow night, anybody think different?(other than Eboy and JTaylor and Philo)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It wouldn’t be a statement game for the Heat if they win tomorrow, it would be a turn back toward respectability.

  • Felix

    @Slam, maybe a password for posters could prevent people from taking other people’s ID and doing all that? Password could also let users delete their own comments, so typos, poor reactions people regret making, things like that go away…

  • Felix

    or is that why email required? still, if you know someones email you can pose as them… password might be harder to obtain

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Enigmatic…Yea, so they could cry again.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Tomorrow the Heat should just focus on running a consistent gameplan for 48 minutes, Spoelstra needs to focus on consistency. There is no rhythm without any consistency. Rhythm on the court also breeds confidence, which Bosh lacks so much of he wasn’t able to poor his own cereal this morning, being that close to his target was a foreign feeling. He stepped back 16 feet and threw the gallon at the bowl but that just got a mess everywhere…..poor guy

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    LMAO @ nbk

  • http://slamonline.com Eboy

    Make no mistake of it. We will beat LA

  • JTaylor21

    Enough with all the “they did it before the season and had a concert” crap. They both said the same ish, all that other BS is irrelevant.

  • Felix

    back to hoops… Lebron yanked the carpet out from under Batum, that was just mean… Anyone know the Greece national team coach that beat USA with all those crazy pick and roll scenarios? That guy should coach the HEAT, IMO. Different combos of BRON DWADE BOSH being the two pick and roll with shooters spacing the floor, cutters off pick and roll… also, don’t know why no-one in basketball runs a rugby scissors, but that would absolutely kill ( just a theory I have)… Scissors sort of like guy with ball cuts in front of a trailing player who crashes in- Lebron (or Wade) drives in at an angle from the wing, other wing cuts through paint behind him making an X, Ballhandler either scores himself or drops ball back to cutter, depending on defense. Have 3pt shooters in corner, Bosh at elbow for kickouts…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Simpleton…

  • Felix

    @NBK LMAO… I heard Bosh took a piss this morning by opening the toilet lid, looking confused for a second and then backing out to the hallway before firing away

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No it isn’t, lets make it simple again, say I ask you right now if you had a shooting contest with everyone in the world how would you do? And you answered I would beat everyone or atleast finish in the top 4 for the next 5 years. Means little just you responding to a question. Now lets say you throw yourself a huge party announcing that your joining the same tournament and will win it, every year for the next 8 years, even though you have no idea if you’ll need teammates, who they will be, or what your gameplan for the contest even is, doesn’t it seem like your second reaction is quite a bit more ridiculous?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Of course it’s more ridiculous.
    But, people’s anger at LeBron for doing that is also a tad ridiculous.
    People want humble and they want swagger. They want good quotes, and all the right answers.
    That ain’t real life.

  • Felix

    also LaMarcus Aldridge= Badass
    scratch that- LaMarcus Aldridge >>> BADASS

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Neither was right, but Reinsdorf’s quote is understandable, what Miami did this summer, it passed by ridiculous like a speeding bullet

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    People also want accountability, but are OK with making excuses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Yeah the whole celebration on stage like they’ve already won something was pretty stupid in my eyes

  • Scott

    This is off topic but the refs just gave St. John’s the win over Rutgers. Wow!

  • JTaylor21

    Looks like Superiorhead is getting salty. Don’t you have some autographers to slurp?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What is accountability in this situation?
    Miami is getting creamed on the court for failing to correct its issues.
    It’s getting creamed by the public for failing to live up to its bragging.
    How are they not being held accountable? I mean, what else can happen to them besides a career changing injury to one of the big three?
    To me, everybody is either rushing to lambast the Heat as a failed experiment or finding way to avoid discussing the totality of their problems.
    There is no what anyone with sense can honestly look at the Heat’s roster and say it’s fundamentally flawed and irredeemable without massive changes. I question the basketball IQ of anyone who believes that, and that’s my word.
    On the other hand, anybody who believes this is “no big deal” is also lying to themselves. The problem isn’t personnel and it’s only partially coaching. The problem involves the mindset of everyone involved with that team, and their mental fortitude. Are they willing to truly sacrifice, are they willing to truly work? Are they willing trust?
    Either way, it’s way, WAY to early to make sweeping statements on either side of the debate. You can’t call the experiment a complete failure and you can’t label it a budding success. Right now it’s just a mess. A salvageable mess, but a mess still the same.
    In my opinion, that’s the reality. Everything else is just posturing.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I called them a failed experiment from Day 1. As a result, I was branded a hater from Day 1.
    But I love watching people backpedal and flip-flop.

  • Felix

    They should hire Panagiotis Giannakis. Get It done Pat Riley!

  • Felix

    They should trade Lebron for Shaq!

  • T-Money

    Calling them a failed experiment before the experiment even had an opportunity to fail is as stupid as claiming that they’ll win 5, 6, 7 ‘ships.

  • izzo

    This Heat team isn’t a one year experiment, this isn’t the 2004 Lakers. I’m sure they’ll want to be contending for a title in years 2-5, too. Maybe breaking up the team after not meeting ridiculous expectations in the experiment’s infancy isn’t very logical. This doesn’t mean that they aren’t underperforming or they need to change things up, but the Heat haven’t ‘failed’ yet. By all means, enjoy the team of assh*les losing, but let’s not lose all perspective because of fandom.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Superior-head??

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That’s right Bryan, you did call them a failed experiement from Day One.
    And I told you that stance was premature then, and it’s premature now.
    What you’re effectively saying is that there is no way a core of Bosh, Wade and Bron wins multiple championships regardless of coach or role players.
    That’s asinine.
    One, you’re predicting the future. Two, you’re underselling the talents of those three players. Three, you are being just as implacable as the folks who guarantee multiple championships.
    Quite simple: NOBODY KNOWS WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE NOBODY HERE IS GOD.
    So, statements of future fact based present guesses, are not reliable. You may be proven to be right, but in fact taking that hard of stance, along with your other comments about LeBron in general, was clearly hating. The idea that the way the team was constructed was a precusor to the “inmates running the asylum” (which you in fact said) was blatant hating. There was a LOT of blatant hating in your stance.
    Like I said earlier, just as it will be telling to see how the Heat deal with failure, it will be interesting to see how other folks react if the team proves to be successful.
    Two sides to the same coin.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    The Rockets had several chances to beat the Suns last night… The refs definitely screwed them over. Patrick Patterson was called for offensive interference on a MADE SHOT that HE DIDN’T EVEN TOUCH! And then Vince Carter swung his arms and face against Martin’s head, and Martin got called for the foul.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I trust my intuition above all else.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    lol what is it about Lakers fans who h@te LeBron James and the Heat? Is there some sort of stipulation that, in order to be a Laker fan, you have to h@te LeBron?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Teddy, NOT AT ALL, I’m a die-hard Laker fan, I don’t hate LeBron

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And I NEVER buy into hype or jump on a bandwagon because that’s what everyone else is doing.
    My mom used to tell me if everyone else is jumping off a bridge, are you gonna do it too? Make up your own mind and make your own decisions.
    Words I’ve lived by and ones that have served me well.

  • JTaylor21

    Why is everyone so quick to predict how teams will do in the playoffs? I’m betting that no one on here predicted that the celtics would make it all the way to a GM7 in the finals after seeing how the underperformed down the stretch in the RS.
    I’m also betting that no one predicted that the celtics would lose that GM7 after being up by double digits heading into the fourth qtr. Also if I could go back in time, I’m also betting that no one predicted that the 04DET would win one game let alone the entire series vs the 04LAL.
    So all this BS about how MIA or any other team will perform in the playoffs is nothing but useless blabbering.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    “Basketball IQ”! Funny the wordings we invent just to make a physical activity looks like something intellectual.
    Also, all those war expressions and stuff, fans burning jerseys, I can understand people who are paid millions to play the game taking it seriously, but us fans? Come on now!
    I’ll bet you that most NBA players who use the expression “Basketball IQ” don’t have a clue what I.Q. stand 4…
    All that bullsh!t that the media say and make u say 2 look smart…
    What a fu(king world we are in now…

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I think this very much IS a short term experiment. Everyone’s forgetting that changes are coming to the CBA. The possibility of a hard cap, or at the very least, doing away with mid level exceptions, most likely means that this team isn’t going to be able to keep plugging in role players wherever they’re needed. And as players like UD and Miller, who’ve they’ve signed to long term contracts, get older – they’ll get progressively worse. Big Z and Dampier are most likely retiring after this year. Who’s playing your center position for the next 4 years if they take away the mid level exception? What tradable assets do the Heat have outside of the Big 3? You think the supporting cast is junk now, just wait a couple years till everyone’s older and the Heat don’t have the means to add other players.

  • Felix

    @Fresh Prince- if you think of basketball as a strictly physical activity you probably get burned all day playing, and can’t even understand why. Even the one on one game out of triple threat has a million subtle foot placement stategies

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    BC and Diesel – let me ask you a Bulls-related question, since contracts and stuff are definitely not my area of expertise –
    With Derrick Rose due to make some big bucks in 2013, and Loul Deng being owed $14 million that year, Carlos Boozer $15 million and Joakim Noah $12 million, do you think the Bulls will look to trade one of those guys to clear cap space to resign Rose, or do they go over the luxury tax since it’s Deng’s last year of his contract?
    Assuming the CBA is like it is now. Which is won’t be…

  • JTaylor21

    Oh, what do you know? The bulls will also have some financial problems in the future but the way bulls fans talk about the new CBA affecting Mia you would think that their team adheres to different sets of financial rules.
    The new CBA is going to affect every team so don’t sit there and act like the big bad bulls are immune from such problems.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    The liklihood of Chicago trading Joakim is nil, I would say.
    Booz will still have 2yrs left on his deal and he’ll also be 31yrs old. That’ll make him really hard to move.
    Deng will still have another year left on his deal after 2013, but if it comes down to having to trade someone in order to resign Rose, it’ll be Luol, I think.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    @Felix, no I certainly don’t (think of basketball as just a physical activity), but “Basketball IQ” is one of the most stupid things I’ve ever heard

  • Diesel

    Actually it doesnt effect the bulls the same way if they take away the mid level exception…..we dont need to sign anymore players. The heat do

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    No financial problems around here. We don’t have 3 guys making over $16M/season for the next 5yrs.
    That makes a difference,

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    Word, Diesel…
    Dude stays losing.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The Fresh Prince of Nsam proving he’s never spoken to a coach. Basketball IQ is so important it’s a hugely important focus among scouts. Traditionally it’s separated depending on the scout into things like ability to make adjustments in game, situational awareness, offensive awareness (how well the player commits to the offensive gameplan), etc. Always is lumped together though and described as “Basketball IQ” – by every scout, analyst, coach, video game, play by play announcer, ex convict, Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, Larry David. Everyone but you, who thinks it doesn’t exist.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Chicago/Charlotte games are fun.
    They have no fear of the Bulls whatsoever.

  • JTaylor21

    Sure, I stay losing out on catching the disease that has spread like wild fire better known as “male groupie syndrome” which so many of y’all seem to be infected with.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    LOL @ nbk. Though I won’t forgive you anytime soon for inadvertently getting “Good Vibrations” stuck in my head….
    Also, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 1 assist in 19 minutes.
    Loul Deng is getting his Chris Bosh on tonight.
    Well, no, nevermind, he’s only 0-2 from the field.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Larry David has great basketball IQ.

  • T-Money

    BC: Now you,’re hating. Miami’s total salary figures are actually very low for a contender. Lakers, for one, are paying guys 20+ millions. Their cap figure is through the roof.

  • Felix

    @Fresh Prince- fair enough. what should people call it though? sneakiness? craftiness? basketball acumen? hoop smartness?

  • Felix

    creativity maybe?

  • Felix

    Larry David= hilarious

  • truthteller

    GO LAKERS!!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    I miss May 10th when the world was happy. Sigh, Miami.

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