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Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 at 8:50 am  |  195 responses

The Post Up: Heat Wave

TPU gets some assistance live from Miami.

by Ryan Jones & Adam Figman

A quick Public Service Announcement: I (Adam) was told a day or so ago that the great Ryan Jones was going to be in Miami for the Heat-Spurs game, and with an early flight this morning, he wouldn’t have enough time to churn out a full Game Notes—but would have the time to hook me up with a little recap for The Post Up. Since I’m not completely insane, I said it was cool, and that the always-welcoming readers and commenters at TPU would feel the same. So here’s Ryan’s Miami-San Antonio recap, followed by my shorter write-ups of the other contests, which, something tells me, you guys won’t want to talk about very much. (Whatup, Eboy!) And a huge thanks goes out to Ryan for his contribution. Very appreciated.

Miami 110, San Antonio 80

A little more than 48 hours after they hammered the short-handed Grizzlies by 33 points, and a couple days more since they edged the Lakers in Kobebryantweirdpostgameshootaroundgate™, the Heat hosted the Spurs looking to avenge their worst loss of the season.

Boy, did they.

Miami steadily built and extended an early lead Monday night, and while the cynics waited for a late-game collapse that seemed (to some) inevitable, the Heat just kept building. If they’d played eight quarters at the AAA, Miami would’ve won by 80. It was that kind of night.

Chris Bosh led the way from the start and finished with a game-high 30 on 10 of 16 shooting and 10 of 10 from the line. Dwyane Wade went for 29 and 9. LeBron added a relatively quiet 21, 8 and 6. The Heat shot 54 percent as a team and 23 of 24 from the line. The Spurs: 38 percent and 12 of 19, respectively.

I missed Pop’s postgame presser (I write this assuming no media egos were irreparably harmed), but the talk from the Heat was all about perspective. Eric Spoelstra opened his postgame comments like this: “Just keep on plugging away—that’s what tonight’s game was about.”

Added LeBron: “We can’t linger on this too much. It’s definitely a good win, but we can’t celebrate now. We gotta stay the course and continue to improve like we’ve been doing.”

If the Heat really, truly are buying into Spo’s mantra—relentlessness on defense, trust on offense, and possession-by-possession consistency on both ends—they will be damn near impossible to beat. But of course, it rarely works out that way. Especially not in April, May and June. It’s gonna be really interesting to see what this team can do over the next month or two (or three).

“I’m sure some people now will jump slowly on the bandwagon,” Spoelstra said. “But it’s not about that for us.”

Maybe not, but the weight of the Miami Heat bandwagon is as good an indicator as any of what this team is up to. This week, at least, it should be at capacity.

New Jersey 88, Boston 79

One night after holding the Bucks to 56 points, the Celts held the Nets to a respectable 88, but only scored 79. Guessing all that defense 24 hours earlier wore them out a little. This marks Boston’s third loss in four games, which qualifies as a mini-funk in my book. New Jersey, meanwhile, has won five (!) in a row, and somehow sits just five and a half games out of postseason positioning. Sure, five and a half is kind of a lot, but when you consider all the Nets have gone through, it’s wild that another big streak (or just this current streak repeated one more time) could lead to them potentially competing for the eighth spot. But yeah, probably not. The Bulls are now tied with Boston atop the East, and chances are they’ll commandeer that top position, if only because A: They have an easier remaining schedule than the Celts do, and B: They’re younger and don’t need the same pre-Playoff rest. Not the best loss for Doc Rivers’ guys.

Oklahoma City 116, Washington 89

Fade in…

Kendrick Perkins! (20 minutes, 6 points, 9 boards.) The Oklahoma City Thunder. You never heard of them, huh? You gonna be playing for them for the next five years. You’re gonna play with some of the best young players in the world, like Russell Westbrook (18 points, 12 dimes), Serge Ibaka (10 points, 8 blocks). I know, those names mean nothing to you now. But they will.

They’re gonna love you in OKC.

…Fade out

Memphis 105, L.A. Clippers 82

The Grizz ended a two-game skid with a home win against the Clips, led by Zach Randolph (30 points, 12 boards) and a team-wide 53.6 percent shooting night from the field. Also, Greivis Vasquez dropped a subtle 11 (on 5-8 shooting), with 4 dimes and a +11 plus/minus. With OJ Mayo seemingly m.i.a., he’d be a nice addition to a Memphis postseason push.

Denver 114, New Orleans 103

That Melo trade awoke some kind of beast, huh? Tar Heel bros Ty Lawson and Raymond Felton combined for 45, while the Nugs won their third in a row and sixth outta their last seven.

Houston 95, Phoenix 93

Jared Dudley’s buzzer-beating, for-the-win attempt didn’t fall, and the Suns couldn’t close a late rally to get ahead of the Rockets. Kevin Martin scored a game-high 23.

Utah 112, Philadelphia 107

All five Jazz starters scored in double-figures, and after a late Sixers tear forced OT, Utah closed Philly out and held on for the victory. Andre Iguodala (23 points) & Co. missed a good opportunity to jump up next to the Knicks, but the L means they’re now a full game back at the seven spot, one position behind NYK.

Sacramento 129, Golden State 119

Kings guard Marcus Thornton went off, dropping 42 and leading Sacto to a home win against the visiting Warriors. That 42 is a career-high, as you could imagine. Also, Samuel Dalembert: 27 points, 16 rebounds.

L.A. Lakers 97, Orlando 84

The Lakers are in prepare-for-the-Playoffs mode, which means they’re focused on mowing down just about anything in their path. Sorry, Magic. Pau Gasol scored a game-high 23, as L.A. played a great final quarter and jumped ahead to earn the W, the team’s second in a row. The Lake Show’s still perfect since the All-Star break, with the exception of that one notable lapse versus Miami.

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  • RobbieJay

    shoutout to phil jackson

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I see what you did there, Adam.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    1) Does Bron get tired? Seriously?
    2) Bron’s jab step J, where he doesn’t dribble, is $$$
    3) Bron certainly play’s for stat’s. At the end of quarters, if he isn’t going to get up a high % shot, he just hold’s onto the ball. That’s something I noticed he has been doing all year.

  • RobbieJay

    Eboy do you think if the Heat can maintain this defensive intensity, they will win the east.?

  • MUBWAR

    Great win by the Lakers. Didn’t know ‘Drew had it in him. Well maybe since that little tussle he had with Shaq a few years back. The Miami Heat D is back. Ball movement is amazing N I swear Bosh had more then 1 dime last night. Let Bosh wear down good teams early and finish off with Bron N wade. Good to see Bosh keep his word.

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    @ronnie: why are u asking Eboy like hes some kind of analist

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Robbie, the ONLY way they can win the East is to play with that intensity…but I would argue they have to do it on both ends. When Bron and Wade are playing all out on the defensive side of the ball, I’m not sure that anyone can beat them in a 7 game series. To be real, I don’t think there’s more than one team in the West that could beat them in the Finals (Dallas, because the Heat seem to struggle with them every season)…but that the hardest tests for them will be in the later two rounds (if they can get there)in the East(potentially Chicago and Boston). All I know is for the first time all season, they are starting to implement pick and rolls. You may as well pack up the shop if they run them consistently and with great efficiency.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Maybe you should learn how to SPELL analyst before you ask about someone else’s analytical credentials, moron.

  • JTaylor21

    AllBall, who doesn’t?
    Good win by LA and their bigs are the reason why they are 10-1 since the All-Star game.
    Orlando on the other hand is full of hot air, you have they best center in the world yet he takes 13 freaking shots per game. What kind of BS is that?
    Everyone likes to compare what Orl does to what the Rockets with Hakeem did but there’s a huge difference, Hakeem touched the rock on damn near every possession while Howard is lucky enough if he gets 10 touches each half.
    Orl plays outside-in instead of inside-out and they would be a much better team with Howard taking more shots instead of them chucking absurd numbers of 3s each game.

  • RobbieJay

    I didnt know my name was Ronnie…is this a jersey shore blog meloman.?

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Jtaylor, honestly?
    When I compare player’s, I usually use CP as he is my favourite player. He always shoot’s low % shot’s at the end of quarters. I haven’t really paid much attention to other guys, but it has become obvious from watching Bron this year that he play’s the percentages.
    Co-sign on Orlando’s style. They often run p/r with the other big and the guards, and it’s not like Memphis where they run p/r as a diversion for Zach Randolph to duck into the lane. The ball need’s to go through Dwight more.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Dwight @ Halftime: ‘(Bynum) is very long….pause.’ That was hilarious!!!

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    Spurs on Miami: aight now we’re even, see ya in the Finals Three Amigos.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    The Heat’s recent resurgence can almost be directly tied to Dwade’s performance in the second half of games especially in the end of close games. Seems like they finally figured out that this is a more successful option than having Lebron miss jumpshots or shots at the rim.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Feed Bosh.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    And SLAM: Where yesterday, Eboy can casually make a disparaging remark about Bean’s wife yet gets all offended when someone insults his family.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    The Bulls are probably going to hold on to that no.1 seed. They’re schedule is easy and they’ve been blowing teams out the last 3 games, Drose is putting the finishing touches on his MVP year. + If these standings remains, MIA needs to defeat NYK in the 1st round (not so easy) then Boston Miami, so it would be absolutely fantastic if the Bulls stay atop. Couldn’t be more happy right now.

  • Mvp23100

    Revenge is like the sweetest joy next to getting p*ssy

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Chill out, Pac^^

  • JTaylor21

    Sure it’s all been DWade that has carried the heat avg. 40/10/10, oh wait…..Their defensive, CB1, and their bench finally stepping up are the reason for MIA’s improved play not DWade’s performance. Both Wade and Bron are doing what they have done all season long, there’s nothing different expect for their teammates and D stepping up.
    People please watch the games before you start running off at the mouth and watching SC doesn’t count.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Kobe is like the damsel in distress with all his little Knights of the Ghey Round Table that need to come to his defense whenever speaks out against him (or in this case, his tasteless wife). GANGSTA!

  • JTaylor21

    Everyone be respectful, Vanessa Bryant has decided to bless us with her presence.

  • flash

    love the photo! LBJ and DWADE flyin!

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    The Denver combo guard combination of Felton and Lawson resembles some kind of the same guard combination of those Detroit back-to-back champion team. hmmmm….hope they stay together for a long time.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Hypocrisy lives here.

  • T-Money

    Nick: they’ve had one close and two blowouts… People are trying really hard to make this into a Bron/Wade thing and it’s not. Miami doesn’t need a designated closer, they need to run plays in the clutch the ball should find its way to the guy with the better match up or the guy who’s hot. It could even be Bosh isolated at the pinch post. The team is playing defense again and Bosh is rolling to the rim, that’s the key difference.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Wait ,why aren’t there 90+ comment arrows being shot in this TPU yet? Could it be, maybe, because the Heat….won? (in very convincing fashion against the league’s 1st place team, even?)
    Naah, can’t be that.
    Farmer Jones tweets had me cracking up during the game. Way to go, RJ.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Nice to see Magloire still has some game left. I always wondered why he fell off so hard shortly after his top seasons in Charlotte. Maybe some persistent injury, always liked his game.

  • T-Money

    If Miami truly cares about its 1st round match up, then what are we really talking about?

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    ..then call JR Smith “Micro 2.0″. Then just add some more enforcers in the frontcourt and Denver will be Mad Scary to face.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    To me, the Heat are better than the Knicks, but Melo does get the better of LeBron most of the time and Billups and Amare aren’t slouches either. If I was a Heat supporter I wouldn’t want to see the Heat draw such a tough out in the 1st round. But I’m a Bulls supporter so I love this.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Knicks are 6-5 since the Melo trade. The Nuggets are 10-1. I don’t think anyone is shaking in their boots about the Knicks and their “scary” team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    Greetings from lovely Detroit, my connecting city, where it’s about 40 degrees cooler than where I was three hours ago. *sigh*
    Also, you guys should know that Adam is contractually obligated to refer to me as “the great Ryan Jones.” Good job, Adam.
    Last night was fun. The Heat are no joke when they’re clicking. For the sake of playoff watchability, I hope they stay clicking for the next couple months.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    That Durant-Ibaka-Perkins is truly scary on paper. Of course Wizard were not much of a measuring stick, but no coincidence that Serge hat 8 (damn) blocks. Perkins solid low post presence gives athletic 4′s more space to operate on both ends.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    “The Great Ryan Jones”…..this may be a good jumping on point for anyone not familiar with this character’s work.

  • T-Money

    DS: I see you! Big Cat was swinging ‘bows down there. Miami should really go 15-15-15 between Z, Big Cat and Damp. They’re old, gotta keep them fresh and play them in short bursts. Am I crazy for wishing that Joel suffers an non-career threatening injury that would keep him out until July? Did I say this out loud?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You are wrong and evil.
    @Ryan the high is 72 today in New Orleans.
    I was stuck at work all might and missed the game but I did manage to catch some of the Orlando game and watched them again squander they’re only real advantage. At some point it is about coaching.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @Eboy, The Knicks are 1-0 against Miami since the Melo trade.
    @Darksaber, the Thunder frontline is indeed impressive, Serge had 7 swats the last game and now 8, he even showed off some nice footwork in the post last year, he can knock down a midrange J and he is so young. The Thunder are very nice.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I don’t think anyone is shaking in their boots about the Heat and their ’70 wins, 8 championships’ team. ‘Once the game starts it’s going to be easy’ – LeBron James.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I hope you were being sarcastic, Jahmai.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Apparently, you were just being ignorant….got it. Carry on.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    In all fairness – Billups has been out for most of those losses.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    First off, I said I think the Heat are better than the Knicks, I said it was a tough out, do you consider the Knicks a cakewalk or something? But you had to start acting like the Knicks ain’t sh*t, well you’re Miami Heat ain’t all that either.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @Eboy, I’ve noticed everytime someone doesn’t agree with your superior opinion, they’re idiots, morons, ignorant, are you the only one entitled to an opinion?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    Lurking, just waiting to see where this post will go…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Denver is balling. Was the problem Melo or all the drama he brought?

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    The same place it goes every day, Kobe v. LeBron!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Heat are 11 games better than the Knicks in the standings. To me, that constitutes them being a nothing team, at least between those two franchises.

  • http://slamonline.com Rocksinmypants

    Jahmai thats exactly right. I don’t really ever comment on here because if you say something about the heat or you’re a lakers fan then you will be labeled an idiot, moron, ignorant, or simpleton. Everyone needs to just figure this out already.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I haven’t watched Denver much since the trade besides last night, they are obviously deeper, have more shooting, and can play two PG’s very effectively with Lawson and Felton.
    With that being said, I don’t think their going to make 15 3′s at a 70+% clip every night.
    They may miss Melo in close game’s in the play-off’s, but in the short and long run they are a better team now.

  • http://legendofmrpalmer.tumblr.com DP

    Chris Bosh has actually been playing good? Sh*t is not going right in the world right now.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Why do y’all care so much what Eboy thinks? He is a random anonymous dude on the internet who once voluntarily selected the online tag of “white hot eboy.”
    White hot eboy!
    Come on now. LOL.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think players are happy to get some distance from the melo hype. But Karl claims they play defense now that Melo is gone. Is this true?

  • JTaylor21

    I think the problem was Melo. The media, fans and Melo all think that he’s better than he really is. When in reality dude is a high volume shot-jacker that plays no defense and in Den when your supposed best player doesn’t care about playing defense and only cares about getting “his”, the whole team follows suit.
    Few people talk about this but Melo had the best supporting cast by far out of his fellow draft mates yet he never got out of the first round until Billups came along.
    Doesn’t that tell you something about Melo’s ability to carry a team?

  • T-Money

    Jahmai: The Knicks will be a cakewalk. They will not matter this year, at least.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Allenp, and yet everyone makes it a point to want to know about me….and even has their mind trained to what my old screenames where and sh*t. You’re right though, cat’s take this sh*t way too seriously.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    No doubt, they play better defence now Allen.
    Ty Lawson and Felton were both very effective last night, Wilson Chandler plays good D, although he was guarding Ariza last night. K-Mart has always played good D, Aflalo too. The only rotation guy’s who are not above average defensively will be Gallo and JR Smith. I’m not sure about Nene.

  • JTaylor21

    Marcus Thorton is a monster, dude’s on my squad in 2k11 and let’s just say that he scores at will. Glad to see that he got out of that dump in New Orleans and is getting a chance to show out.
    Also, the battle between Bynum and DHow was a sight to see. It’s good to see big men that are willing to bang down low *pause* and protect the rim. That’s what the NBA is missing nowadays; traditional centers instead we are stuck with soft, jump-shooting bigs who rather flop and take charges than challenge shots.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    New York’s record being no better now (6-5) than before also tells us something Jt. Denver are 9-2 since the trade, although they won’t be THAT good over 82 games, there will be a marked improvement.
    Honestly, if one of NY’s wins wasn’t against the Heat, they would have a very limited buzz right now.

  • T-Money

    denver’s back up perimeter rotation insane: felton, jr mith, chandler. actually, it could be argued that they’re better than the starters (lawson, afflalo, gallo).

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Jtaylor, what you mean “dump in New Orleans”. Sac are 2-8 since he got traded. Carl Landry is just a better fit for NO, as Monty insisted on playing Marco and Willie before opting for Marcus.
    No doubt Marcus should have had more opportunity in New Orleans, but it’s not like his situation in Sac will be much better when Tyreke is back.

  • JTaylor21

    By dump I mean the hornets, that team is going nowhere in the playoffs and I will be dancing in the street when CP decides to leave town.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    lol, I’m not from the NO, but I do think they will win at least a series in the play-off’s, especially if they don’t play the Laker’s in the 1st round.

  • Riggs

    Who has denver faced that are noteworthy after the trade? because that weekend after the melo trade the knicks faced two great squads. Also the nuggets became a deep team, doesnt necessarily makes them better.

  • http://jojo.com Max

    Zbo is balling as of lately.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Is everyone else thinking their bracket is garbage?

  • T-Money

    Eboy
    C’mon son. You’re name was white hot eboy. That’s memorable. Lol. I remember when you first started commenting and I was trying to figure out if you left off the B and N on purpose or accident.
    Anyway, my point is that people act like insults on the Internet are a big deal. Yes, they are tiresome and unnecessary, but it’s not THAT big of a deal.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The comment from T-Money at 11:13 was actually from me.
    Also, Denver getting deeper is a nice plus. Chandler is starting material, so are Lawson and J.R. Smith. When you can bring that kind of firepower off the bench to go against the other team’s backups, well that’s a great luxury. Plus, since none of the players are “stars” Karl can really jerk their minutes around with no fallout if they don’t do what he says to do. Now we will see if Karl is a great coach because he no longer has any excuses.

  • JTaylor21

    Nicolas, I don’t know about you but I feel good with my picks. I got Duke/Kansas/Pitt/UNC in the final 4 with the blue devils coming out on top.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    I like my picks, too. I just think because it’s so wide open this year that any team can knock off any other team. That’s why I wouldn’t put the house on my bracket.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Gallo is going to be a star in the L. Affalo is the league’s most improved player and KMart has been revived since the trade.

  • http://www.redcross.org/ Felix

    My brother gets banned from the meadowlands, and I’m banned from Slam online! what happened?

  • http://www.redcross.org/ Felix

    Doh, first post of maybe 7 or eight today that got through… that looks weird

  • JTaylor21

    I feel the same way because I could easily see OState demolishing UNC to make to the final four, I could see Pitt losing in the 2nd round, SD State making to the final four and UConn winning the whole thing. It’s half gut feeling and half guessing when making the picks.

  • http://www.redcross.org/ Felix

    1 for ten! sign me up for a contract, I’m ready for crunch time with the Miami Heat, circa last week!

  • milleniumjobs2010

    Why didn’t Bosh address his team in locker room about receiving more touches instead chose to express himself through the media. Not good for team chemistry or brotherhood

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    The Bulls are ahead in the Heat in the standings but I don’t consider the Heat to be a bad team just because. Besides these Knicks have only been togethher for 10 games or so. I know they’re record in that span isn’t too good, but the Heat started off 9-8 themselves, so these Knicks can’t be judged on their standings right now, as a matter of fact, no playoff team can, because we all know once the playoffs starts everybody’s 0-0, upsets are always possible.

  • http://www.redcross.org/ Felix

    @Adam Figman- noticed in your favorite college players post you are from Great Neck. Do you know a good Rec Center in Nassau County to hoop? I’m In Port Washington and all the local parks are closed

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    And if anybody thinks the Knicks are going to be an easy pray for the Heat in the 1st round, you need to check yourselves, like I said before the Heat to me are the better team but the Knicks have Melo, Amare, Billups and Melo is as tough a cover you can find at the SF position.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Jahmai: Anything is possible.

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    you guys are fools… the only time Melo had a full, healthy and experienced lineup was in 2009 and where did they go? oh yeah the conference finals. Denvers record since the trade is deceiving, as they’ve played alot of sub 500 teams. The knicks have played atleast half of their games against serious contenders

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @meloman, agree. Melo is clutch as hell and he played super sick against the Lakers in that WCF series, but we all know they lost, but I think Melo is underrated.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    LOL, I said ‘pray’, I meant prey.Hhahaa, looks ridiculous.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Melo played good the first two games of that WCF, and then floundered.
    What about all those years with K-Mart and Andre Miller before they got Iverson? Those were good teams as well.
    Melo had as much or more talent than both LeBron and Wade, and they’ve had more playoff success. Granted, the West was tougher, but still.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I’m not saying Melo is better than LeBron, he’s def not, If I’m starting a franchise I’d take Lebron without thinking about it, but Melo has had the best of LeBron on several occasions. Let’s see how both teams do this year. I’m SO excited for the playoffs, this year’s going to be EPIC. (Drose will be a beast in the playoffs.)

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Co-sign, although the West being tougher cannot be under stated. Didn’t they lost to San An in one of their title years, the Laker’s in their Final’s year, and Minnesota when Garnett/Sprewell/Cassel were there? That’s a tough post season stretch.

  • http://www.double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    So someone please tell me what happens when Miami doesn’t win anything this year, (which they won’t) and they realize they have no draft picks next year, and when the CBA works against them…..Do they trade bosh? No one is mentioning that, but it’s some food for though.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The nuggets are beating teams because they play hard and are (for the moment) impossible to scout. A team with 12 role players will always mesh quickly, but once teams know what they want to do then Denver will be in trouble because they wont have a guy to give it to in an isolation situation or to create buckets for everyone else. This should be exposed in the playoffs, they should get picked apart

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    How come no one is really talking about how the Celtics have lost 3 of their last 4 to the Clippers, Sixers and Nets?
    If it had been the Heat or Lakers, this TPU woulda blown the f*ck up by now.

  • http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

    @nbk…do you ever get tired of speaking? Your “know-it-all”ness really gets on my nerves. Did you guys see Kobe stink it up yesterday? What you Lakers sheep gotta say about that?

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    The Lakers may end up with homecourt in every series except for the WCF. The three-peat looks very much real right now.

  • http://www.double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    @JTaylor- We still got the W son. That’s all that matters. And against a quality team. Some of us are just Laker fans. Not “sheep”

  • Feez22

    Knicks … Sigh. What has a DANTONI lead team done yr in and yr out vs a good defensive team in the playoffs? Oh yeah… FOLD. End of discussion. Not to mention Melo only getting out of the first round once in his career… I learned to not believe in DANTONI coached teams a Long time ago. He couldn’t even win with Joe Johnson Steve Nash amare and Marion… Sooner or later he’s going to have to be fired so the Knicks could play real championship ball.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Adam Figman

    What Ryan said isn’t true guys, I’m not contractually obligated to say he’s great. (Actually, I’m contractually obligated to say he’s great, then go in the comment section and say I’m not contractually obligated to say it.)

    Nah, but thanks to Ryan for the write-up.

    And Felix: Nope, I haven’t balled at a good public spot in Nassau County in years. But it’s getting warm, so I imagine the parks being closed won’t be a problem for much longer?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Z-BOOOOOOO!!!!!!. Good rebound for Memphis after laying two eggs a couple of games ago. If they are matched up against the Spurs in playoffs which it looks like it shaping up to be, I’m calling a first round upset. The Grizz match up well against them, and they play them tough, and hopefully Rudy Gay will have a breakout playoff series.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Yeah, the Laker three-peat with Bynum healthy is looking very likely, Bulls keeping the no 1 seed looks likely to. As Bulls fan I was always really worried about the C’s, and they’re still the team to beat in the East but without Perk, it looks like Drose will have an easier path to the rim, because Rondo can’t stay in front of him at all. Noah against Kristic, no contest, Booz against older KG, still giving the edge to KG, Deng-Pierce, great matchup, Ray Allen will be killing us, but luckily we got a good bench.

  • JTaylor21

    Fake JT21, living vicariously through another human being isn’t the way to go.
    Looks like bit*ha**ness is back in style.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I actually enjoy speaking even more now JT

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I don’t think that was the real JTaylor.
    Melo caught a bad break with the teams he matched up with, but then again, that’s a by product of not winning enough games in the regular season. For example, they consistently failed to win their division over Utah, and it wasn’t like Utah was so much more talented than the Nuggets.
    Also, Miami will not have anymore problems under a new cap than Orlando, or L.A. or Chicago or Boston, or even San Antonio.
    All of those teams have big money committed to the same core. Why would Miami need to make a trade when it’s players are younger, and haven’t spent a full season together like some of those other teams.
    Hell if Miami is in trouble, than New York is dead in the water because they can’t even afford a player a true third option thanks to the full max contracts they handed out to Amare and Melo. Remember, the big three took a slight pay cut to make their pairing happen.

  • T-Money

    Zee: if they don’t win it all this year, they’ll still have Bron, Wade and Bosh and they will still be one of the best teams in the league. Great teams do not care about draft picks and they have their young cores for the next 4-5 years, they don’t need rookies. Lastly, why would a new CBA affect only Miami? This is mentioned a lot and I really don’t get it. Their payroll is actually really low for a top team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Is NYK really resigning Chauncey? I mean it’s not a “bad” decision, but I feel like they should atleast wait, kind of like what OKC should have done with K-Perk

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Allenp…Miami is the oldest team in the L.

  • SpursFan

    Spurs beat them by 30, Heat beats Spurs by 30. It doesn’t matter.

  • T-Money

    SG: really? like we care how old juwan howard, Z and dampier are? they have the youngest CORE of all the contenders with chicago. / SpursFan: it sure mattered when miami was getting the beatdown. only meaningful games that miami plays are the ones they lose.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @nbk…you can’t be serious. They won’t be able to afford Paul or Williams contrary to popular belief. @T-money…bc Miami is the only team in the L with three guys having a 100 million dollar contracts. Its believed their won’t be anymore midlevel exceptions and that the salary cap will be much different to make the L more competitive. Therefore, that would affect Miami more than anyone because their only way of adding guys would be through veterans minimum and the other teams are relatively deep compared to Miami who is last in L in bench production.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Wade is approaching 30, James is soon to be 27 and Bosh will be 29. Thats not too young of a core especially if there’s a inevitable decline in Wade and his athleticism combined with the knee issues.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    SG its called market value – if your paying something before you know what that is you could be making a mistake. I really don’t care about the Paul/Williams thing I think one of those two is going to be paired with Dwight somewhere, I don’t give a damn about NYK. That team never winning a title with those two as their best players and in Mike D’Antoni’s system, atleast I don’t see it happening.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    SG
    The annual salary for Bosh, Wade and Bron, right now, is 14.7 million, I think.
    That is a bargain for three top tier players. Kobe makes $20 million. So does Pierce, or at least $16 million. Manu and Tony Parker are right around $15 million and Duncan is at $20 million.
    All of the top contenders have roughly the same amount of money committed to their cores, and Chicago hasn’t even paid Derrick Rose his first real contract yet!
    OKC still has to re-up Westbrook and Ibaka. Boston has huge chunks of mney committed to their big Four and they have to figure out what to do about Jeff Green.
    Quite simply, Miami’s core is on par with the rest of the League and every team in the league will be challenged to sign role players to fit around their cores.
    I don’t think people have actually considered this logically. Go to a site that lists salaries and check it out.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I just wanted to know if it was true and they are jumping at resigning Billups right away, or if that’s just a rumor.

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    @Allenp: the west was wayyyy tougher than the east at those times. Melo lost to the Spurs 4-2… those same spurs went to the finals and swept the Lebrons Cavs

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    OKC still gotta pay James “6th man of the future” Harden too

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Was that because Melo was better, or because he had better talent.
    LeBron willed a collection of misfits, excluding Larry Hughes, to the Finals beating a Detroit team that took the Spurs to seven games the year before.
    Come on son.

  • T-Money

    SG: but how would it affect them more? so none of the contenders will be able to add new pieces then. and miami would still be one of the best teams. and they could still package UD and Mike Miller for an 8-mil a year PG or C. / miami pays 14 mil a year to bron, bosh, wade. LA pays 24 for Kobe, 17 for Pau, 13 for Drew and 8 for Odom. Boston pay 18 for KG, 14 for Pierce, 10 for Ray and 9 for Rondo. Miami’s salary structure is not out of whack, that’s a myth.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    I was only saying the other championship contenders basically have their benches set while Miami doesn’t which is gonna be tough if the next CBA is like everyone suggest. They also have a huge hole at PG & C. I understand the point about the bargain but I was referring to the constant building of the team after this year.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Kobe will be making $30 million dollars for the next two seasons BTW. That is crazy. @nbk…How long before you think Harden is in the starting lineup? He’s looking more like the #3 pick everyone thought he would be.

  • T-Money

    SG: wow, okay i can’t take you seriously. bron just turned 26. Bosh will be 27 in a month. Wade is 29. that’s a core for 4-5 years easy. bron will be at his absolute apex by then and wade will gradually move to a supporting role. they’ll be what the celtics were when they won their first ‘chip with more raw talent.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @allenp…Miami won the title the year before didn’t they? That Piston team was not the same championship team and which led to Billups being traded. Ben Wallace had also left by that time I recall.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    check out basketball reference for current salary figures.
    Besides the big three, Miami’s other big salary committments are to Mike Miller and Haslem. Bron and Bosh get 14.5 million, wade gets 14.2. Miller gets $5 million, Haslem gets 3.5 million.
    In comparison, Boston is giving KG $18.8, Pierce 13..8, Ray 10 million, and Rondo 9 million. they still have to resign Big Baby and Green. And I think Kristic has a few more years on his deal at 5 million, but I’m not sure.
    Lakers are giving Kobe 24 million, Pau 17 million, Bynum 13.8 million, Odom 8 million and Artest 6.3 million.
    Chicago has 14 for Boozer and 11 for Deng, and Noah’s new deal kicks in next year at like 12 million I think. Then they have to resign Rose, and they still owe Brewer and Korver $5 million each for the next few years. Oh, and they have to resign Gibson in a couple years, or trade him.
    I could go on, but I’ll stop there. Basically, everybody is betting on their core, and only ONE core can win every year.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @t-money…you know i was referring to next season. They will not be Boston bc Bosh is not KG and Wade or James isn’t Ray Allen.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Sigh.
    Your point was that they are screwed if they don’t win this year.
    But that isn’t logical. 31 teams fail to win a championship every year. The only way Miami’s failure would be crucial if they had all their money invested in a core that was incapable of winning.
    And if the CBA removes salary flexibility for any team with roughly $53 million in guaranteed salaries, then every contender in the league is pretty much screwed. Every team has at least that much money invested in their core unless the players are still on the rookie scale. And if they are on the rookie scale, then that means teams will have to make hard decisions shortly.
    I don’t see how people don’t understand this. Just do the math. The Big Three plus Miller and Haslem cos the Heat 53 million.
    The Big Four alone in Boston costs $43 million.
    Odom, Kobe, Pau, Artest and Bynum cost 69 million!
    Amare and Melo alone are going to be roughly $40 million next year.
    Everybody has the same problems.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If you remove Haslem and Miller, Miami has 43.2 million committed to its “core.” Just like Boston. And that’s for three players compared to what the Knicks are paying for two players.

  • izzo

    @Eboy. Libya: what’s your take?

  • http://www.redcross.org/ Felix

    @Adam Figman. Thanks for reply. Drove around all morning looking for somewhere to get some shots up. Probably never should have left Ohio.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    my comments aren’t showing up, Ryne or Regulators, mount up.

  • http://www.redcross.org/ Felix

    I had the embarrassing misfortune of climbing the fence at the local park and getting kicked out by a worker who informed me I was trespassing the other day. Sad

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    SG – I’ve tried to reply 3 times now, basically I think Harden will be 6th man for OKC for the forseeable future. Seflosha is to important to the balance of their starting group, and their bench is too shallow offensively without Harden.

  • http://Slamonline.com LakeShow

    JTay fake jtay just said what u always so though lol. So he’s not a bad fill in… Man Bynum is lonnnnnng!…. wait what

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @Eboy – I’m bout to buy a lottery ticket, what numbers should I choose?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    From Nene on the current mood in Denver:
    “It’s totally different right now. Everybody is excited, everybody is happy and everybody is enjoying playing [together]. And after games [now] you feel good. You feel like your mission is done. ” HoopsWorld
    Well then

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    4, 8, 15, 16, 23, & 42

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @Allen – next year LBJ, Bosh, Wade, Miller, Haslem, and Joel Anthony will cost Miami $60MM….in 3 years it will be $70MM…in 4 years $77MM…Money locked up on 6 players, 1 of which is horrible, 3 of which are already in their 30′s. The Bulls have their entire team signed next year for $60MM. So at least next year, I would say the Bulls are in a much better position. I agree the Bulls will have some tough decisions once Rose’s contract is up for renewal, but then Deng’s salary comes off the books the very next year. Plus, all of their supporting cast is signed to 2 year contracts so there’s much more flexibility. If the league decides to leave the salary cap alone, and only eliminate the mid-level exception, which I’ve heard is very likely, then the Bulls are in a MUCH better position. How will the Heat sign anyone when they’re over the cap, most of their bench retires in the next year or two, they can’t rely on the mid level to sign guys, and they have no draft picks or tradable assets outside of the big 3?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Man, I just read Dan LeBatard’s column about Van Gundy and Stern.
    The column was “blah” but Stern’s comments were CRAZY. Man, he went IN on Van Gundy.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Good lookin’ out, E.
    And Diesel, yeah I think the Bulls will be straight too, but I think the Carlos Boozer signing might come back to haunt us in the long term.
    Yes, we absolutely needed a low-post presence, but dude is on his first year of a five year contract, is already 29, and is really injury prone.
    Dude will be making $16.8 million at the age of 34 in 2015, probably still getting his Mr. Glass on and being much less effective.
    Although I must say, it’s nice that he came $25 million cheaper than Amare would have.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Thanks Diesel…that’s the point I was trying to convey to allenp

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah I read that too, Leatard is right, Stern just proved Van Gundy’s point

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    How badass would LA be on the inside if the do get Howard next year and pair him with Bynum on the inside. Man them guys would be long and difficult for anyone to penetrate…pause.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diesel
    What if the league tweaks the Bird rules? Are the Bulls still in a great position?
    What if they institute a hard cap, with no exceptions for existing players on your team?
    How do the Bulls fare then?
    I get your point, my point was that every team in the league has a core.
    Chicago’s is Deng, Rose, Boozer and Noah. That’s where their money is going to be locked up for years.
    Miami’s is Haslem, Miller, Bron, Bosh and Wade.
    I don’t see how that’s a bad deal in comparison.
    Are you saying the Heat’s core is clearly inferior to the Bulls’ core and will be for years?
    I don’t see that at all.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Yeah Enigmatic – I give it another year or two before Boozer starts taking a nose dive. That contract will be hard to deal with in 3 years..let alone 4.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Heat are better prepared to keep their core group together then any elite team in the leauge outside of OKC.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    If the league institutes a hard cap, everyone is screwed I agree. As for each team’s core, I’m not saying its a huge advantage, but I’d still take the Bulls in that scenario. Haslem’s and Miller’s arrows are pointing down. Wade is 30 and has a lot of wear on his body. The Bulls core is fairly young with the exception of Boozer. They’re slightly injury prone, but all of their arrows are pointing up…again except for Boozer. So I still like Bull’s core for the next few years more.

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    @its actually very arguable that Melo had more talent… Lebron has played with Boozer, Ilgauscus (or however you spell his name… when he USED to be an allstar) Mo williams who has been the star player on a team before… the super talented larry hughes (although he was injured, he still had all star talent), antoine jamison, SHAQ, to name a few. plus the cavs organization did everything Lebron wanted. They revamped their roster nearly every trade deadline and summer

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Diesel…Wade and Brons entire game is predicated on athleticism and not skill so I think the Heats window is shorter than some people realize in my opinion.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    They can’t possibly resign Deng and keep Rose. Boozer is older and just as injury prone as Wade. Your (Bulls) paying Korver 5 million a year until 2014, that not much worse then 5.5 Million a year until 2016 for a better player. So basically your saying a core of Rose, Noah, Boozer is better then James, Wade, Bosh….because after the will be lower cap that’s what it shakes out too in a couple years.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    MeloMan you clearly don’t understand the concept of time/age/experience. Clearly

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Chicago bias aside, I do have to say LeBron/Wade/Bosh > Rose, Noah, Deng, Boozer as far as main guys are concerned.
    I think the fact that Chicago has guys like Brewer, Korver, Asik and Gibson locked up for a few years is what’s gonna give the Bulls the advantage over Miami.

    SG, so you really think LeBron and Wade don’t have any skills? The athleticism allows them to do what many other players can’t, like Wade getting 5 blocks as an undersized two-guard, but come on. They’ve got mad skills, for real.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    No nbk – I’m saying that if they do implement a hard cap, Miami can’t even field a team. Miami’s big 3 will be making over $60MM in 4 years. And since most of the Heat’s bench is comprised of guys a year or two away from retiring, you’ll need money to sign a whole new bench as well. If teams were comprised of only core players, your argument would make sense, but you have to actually field an entire team and guys don’t play 48 minutes a game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    here comes that oh so famous bandwagon…

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Cosign Enigmatic’s last comment.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Enigmatic
    Exactly! The Bulls have to keep their younger talent around to be better than Miami. If it’s just their core and a collection of random bums, they are toast!
    Right now, if the salary cap changes, the Bulls are in decent shape because they have a lot of younger talent like Asik, Gibson and Rose. But, they are going to have to start re-signing cats in a couple of years, and they could be handcuffed about adding to their squad through free agency, which is what they would prefer to do, right?
    So basically, the Bulls have to bank on annual improvements from their core to keep them as contenders.
    Miami has to bank on selling still viable veterans on the idea of playing for close to the minimum in exchange for a great shot at a ring, or look at trading on of the big three for really good picks.
    No matter what, like I said, every contender in the league is going to be hampered by the new cap as much or more than Miami. It’s obvious.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    @Enigmatic…Wade is alreay small for a SG but coupled that with loss of athletic ability and an erratic jumper and Wade is gonna decline quickly as a superstar when his athleticism fades. Its just an educated guess by me that’s all. I know lots of people won’t agree. However, I don’t think Wade and Lebron are very skilled players because they don’t have good footwork, have erratic jumpers, and realistically depend on their speed and jumping ability that makes them who they are. I think people get skill and talent confused.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Diesel how far in the future are you looking? Just 2 years or something? Because that’s when the same exact thing your talking about happening in Miami will happen in Chicago. Korver is the longest inked role player on Chicago, and as I stated his contract only runs to 2012-13. Or did I overlook something?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    “Miami has to bank on selling still viable veterans on the idea of playing for close to the minimum in exchange for a great shot at a ring, or look at trading on of the big three for really good picks.”
    How many times have I REPEATEDLY said this? I was accused of “hating” and “blowing up the team” when i did. But watch it get co-signed on now…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    SG – People said the exact same thing about Michael Jordan, Clyde Drexler, Dominique Wilkins.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Don’t y’all see?
    Chicago’s salary core right now is Deng, Boozer, Noah and Korver.
    They have to resign Rose, and he is getting the max without a doubt. So that’s another $10 million or so for him.
    So, their core becomes Boozer, Noah, Rose, Korver and Deng.
    They keep Asik and Gibson on rookie deals, but those do count towards the cap. No matter what, once they resign Rose they are looking at either exceeding the cap, or taking a step backwards by getting rid of players, unless I’m mistaken.
    Miami has Bron, Wade, Bosh, Miller and Haslem and Joel Anthony on long term deals.
    There only real young talent is Pittman and he’s non guaranteed.
    I’m saying that when you examine those two cores, and add in random scrubs, Miami is still a clear contender for another three years at the minimum.
    I don’t understand how people see them becoming irrelevant but all these other teams remaining powerhouses.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    nbk – the Bulls have 4 first round draft picks in the next two years. Those can all be used to acquire new players or throw in a trade. They also have all those expiring contracts, including Deng’s that can be used in trades. Miami has 6 guys signed for the next 5 years. They have no draft picks for the next few years, no worthwhile expiring contracts, and no tradable assets. So because of that, I think they’re in a worse position going forward.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @BC…don’t even sweat it. You know how these pseudo miami fans are. The same people also claimed how talented the Cavs were last year, how Bynum is overrated, how Wade is one of the worst defenders in the L and backtrack days later.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @SG – I get what you’re saying, but it’s unfair to say that their “entire game is predicated on athleticism and not skill”.
    You see Kobe still doing his thing even though his athleticism has faded. You saw MJ do the same thing.
    I think Wade will be alright, and LeBron is still only 26, he has a ways to go.
    @AllenP – yeah, I agree with your last post.
    @Diesel – this Thomas/Noah/Deng/Bogans/Rose lineup that Thibs instituted since Boozer’s been out has been KILLING teams on the defensive end, you miss Boozer at all? I kinda do…but not really.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Diesel do you understand the concept of a hardcap? Its not like Chicago can add anything with those picks, they basically have to give them away, especially if your trying to trade the picks before the draft, then you really can’t do anything, it’s not like with a hard cap and their already committed money that they can take ANY money whatsoever back in a trade. And Deng’s expiring contract will net them what of equal value?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Best case scenario for Chicago is a reduced soft-cap with shorter guaranteed contracts. The owners want revenue sharing (team to team), a hard cap, a franchise tag and a drastic overall salary cut for the players.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    nbk – a great rookie on a rookie pay scale is what can be added with first round draft picks – which the Heat have none of. And Deng’s expiring contract could be used to in a trade with a team that needs cap relief. We could get back a good player at a cheaper rate. I understand how a hard cap works and i understand that the Bulls have multiple ways to work with it. Miami has none.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    that’s best case scenario for every contender actually lol

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Enigmatic – I’m not missing him at all. The team is better defensively, which is leading to more fast breaks and easier scoring, so the scoring really hasn’t taken a huge dip with Boozer out. but like you said, the defense is much better. We can get away with this line up for a while, but in the playoffs, we’ll need boozer back. When games slow down we’ll need his inside scoring.

  • Ether

    WTF is an Eboy? Sounds like an old-school N64 character

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    You guys need to read up on Larry Coon. This guy is a phenomenal capologist.
    When asked (on Twitter) which teams had the best mix of talent and financial flexibility going forward, he listed OKC, CHI and if I’m not mistaken, the Clippers in his top 3.
    No mention of Miami… At all.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Hard Cap means you can’t go over it, even for draft picks. SO assuming they institute a hard cap they will likely have a year or two exception where you can be over but only for the players on your roster at the time of the implementation of the rule. Its very doubtful that they can be over the cap, trade Deng get someone equal back, and go even further over the cap for draft picks. Just doesn’t make any sense, the Hard Cap would be pointless

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    BC that is with the current cap rules and restrictions though isn’t it? Cuz I agree with that, but under a hard cap nobody is best prepared, every team has to re-evaluate. Market Value is basically unknown if that happens

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’d really take credence in a guy with the last name of Coon.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    He’s white too, E. Who woulda thunk it?
    Seriously though, the guy knows his stuff.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    nbk – the bulls are under the cap for the next 2 years with their whole team as currently constructed. In two years, a lot of our role player’s contracts are up…their pay ranges anywhere from $2MM to $5MM. Those role players could be replaced by rookies earning $1MM to $3MM. Bulls also have trade exceptions from the Tyrus Thomas, Warrik, and Hinrich trades, so they wouldn’t need to take back equal dollars in a Deng trade. They could get equal talent at less salary. Trust me, I’ve looked into it, the Bulls are very flexible financially going forward. Most of their moves have been in direct response to an unknown cap next year. that’s why their currently $2MM under the cap and have open roster spots. They’re well set going forward.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Just so we’re clear, I’m not saying that the Bulls will be unaffected by a hard cap. Just that we won’t be as affected as other teams because we have flexability.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    nbk, I think it’s extremely doubtful that the NBA would institute a hard cap in any new CBA.
    If they did, you’d have a model much like the NFL’s where teams typically lose the players not because they don’t want to keep them, but because they can’t afford them.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Is anyone else having a hard time getting their comments posted on the “favorite MJ story” post?
    I been trying like the last 30 minutes and my ish still won’t post…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Diesel Trade Exceptions only last 1 year And your saying getting rid of Asik, Watson, Korver, Brewer for 4 draft picks is going to help the team towards a championship? In the event of a hard cap Chicago is in trouble just like everyone else. But like you said and I agree with, I doubt the hard-cap thing goes through, I expect revenue sharing, shorter guarantees on contracts, and a possible franchise tag. All the new owners (led by the ringleader of the idiots here in phoenix Robert Sarver) want to totally change everything. Its like buying a McDonalds and trying to change their menu pricing because your not getting what you thought for every Big Mac

  • http://http//portlandfan1203.blogspot.com Karley

    LIke is aid losing five wasnt any trouble just a bad time. Beating the spurs! heck ya

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Ryan Jones!

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    The stories posted on the MJ post is another example why people will never accept that someone is better than MJ. He is a hero to so many guys and sparks so many childhood memories. Its basically come down to blasphemy to slew the guy in any way possible.

  • T-Money

    BC: Larry Coon also didn’t mention Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, Magic… does that mean these teams won’t contend in the near future? With its 6 core players (Bron, Wade, CB, UD and Haslem and Rio), the Heat will always find a vet min back up PG and a vet min C. That ALONE makes them a contender for the next 4 years (which they already are). Now, if there’s some kind of MLE and they can get their hands on a guy like Sam Dalembert, they may as well be the favorites. So, really, what are we talking about?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Again, the question is not whether Miami is locked in to this current squad.
    It’s whether that is a bad thing, or whether they are in a worse position than the rest of the contenders. Diesel has done a good job of showing the Bulls are in decent shape, although if the rules change drastically they will be screwed like everybody else long term.
    But, if the rules change somewhat, but without a hard cap and without eliminating guaranteed contracts, then I know teams like Los Angeles, San Antonio and Boston are not changing much, just like Miami.
    And if I was the GM in Miami, I’d feel okay with that. Their top five can roll with any top five in the league and compete.
    And there will always be vets chasing rings and unwilling to lose. This is obvious.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Also, I’ve made it clear I’m not a “fan” in the traditional sense. I would like to see Miami be a contender because otherwise you have three of the best players in the league playing for nothing, which is stupid. Besides, it would be a great story if they manage to shock all the doubters and win something.
    But, I just want to see good ball. I’m in favor of the consolidation of talent and teams. More talent on individual teams means better basketball to me. I’m against things that hamper that move.

  • T-Money

    *UD and Mike Miller. / I know this is not the popular take among some romantic basketball pundits who feels like Miami “cheated the system” but if you get Miami’s Big 3, you’re going to contend regardless of who’s on the team. Winning a ‘chip can never be guaranteed no matter who’s on the roster but they’ll be elite for the next 5 years if those guys stick together.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Did I mention being a “contender” in my initial comment? I know you can read, right T-Money?

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Wait…
    who the f*ck is Ryan Jones?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Merely being a “contender” is failing when it comes to Miami. That’s wack…
    All or nothing. You can’t have it both ways.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And no doubt the Bull shave great flexibility.
    Mainly because they drafted two of the their best players instead of signing them as free agents, and those players are still on their first big deals.
    Miami re-signed its best player to his second max deal, which means more money total, and they signed two other max-level free agents to their second big deal.
    What I can’t understand is why people think Miami is so screwed, but don’t think the Lakers have a problem?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    LONG… LIVE… THE KING.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    fa real Jukai?

  • http://slamonline.com Jukai

    Did anyone catch the finale of basketball wives? I think Royce is fierce for standing up to evil Evelyn. Suzie is sooooo stupid for continually apologizing smh. Oh well, can’t wait til next season.

  • the nerve

    I been told yall suckas i predicted da heat to win. They gon start winnin like charlie sheen. I’m is a dummy fa real.I be da smartest dude on slam. Even tho I been inbred. My momma is my gradma

  • rand33p

    what happens when the lakers win their third in a row? … Do you guys just shut up or keep talking?… specifically Eboy?.. what goes on? #justWondering

  • http://slamonline.com Jukai

    Fa real boo! Also, e-mail me pleeeeeez.

  • http://slamonline.com Michael

    The Knicks are the worst defensive team in the NBA. Miami will smoke them. IF you don’t agree, see Philosophers post.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    What happens when rand33p and others realize this isn’t Twitter and there’s no need for the stupid hash-sign BS on here?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Allenp: I keep shaving but with no flexibility.. How do the bulls do it?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    #Enigmatichatestwitter @Enigmatic

  • http://www.google.com Tristan Warneke

    I love slam comments and Eboy
    Make my day :)

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