Post Up: The Sound of Revenge

Cavs overcome LeBron’s triple-double, take down Heat.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

It didn’t exactly make up for The Decision, but for the time being, Cleveland fans have something to rejoice over. With an absolutely rocking Q Arena carrying them all game, the Cavs held onto an 11-point halftime lead and surprisingly bested the Heat, despite LeBron James‘ 27-10-12 triple-double. During the stretch, Baron Davis (10 points) placed his squad (and the whole building, for that matter) on his back, putting in some huge buckets and finding JJ Hickson (21 points, 12 boards) for an open dunk in the final minutes, capitalizing on a crucial possession. The whole scene—led by Dan Gilbert’s smiling face, front and center—was just absurd, but the Cavs certainly earned it, shooting 55.6 percent from the field and coming through when it mattered most. Mike Bibby (23 points) played well, but Chris Bosh’s 10-point, 4-board disappearing act just isn’t going to work. The Heat are now off to Washington, while the Cavs—well, no reason to look toward the future. Cleveland can just enjoy this one for a few days. Or longer.

Houston 112, New Jersey 87

Houston pulled within two games of Playoff contention last night, routing the Nets in Jersey. Kevin Martin led ‘em with 20, enforcer Chuck Hayes scored 8 and pulled down 14, and Kyle Lowry put up a solid 16-7-10 line. The Rockets will now head to Philly, where they’ll look to continue their mini-run and inch closer to that eighth spot.

Oklahoma City 115, Golden State 114

After the Warriors made a miraculous six-second (or so), six-point comeback in the final ticks of regulation, Kevin Durant (39 points) took over, scoring 8 of his team’s 9 OT points and leading OKC to the win. Monta Ellis (20 points, 11 dimes)—who hit the shot that sent the tilt to extra time in the first place—had a chance at a game-winning J, but it rimmed out. The W was the Thunder’s fourth straight.

Sacramento 116, Phoenix 113

Despite all the off-the-court drama, Marcus Thornton and the Kings focused up long enough to take down the Suns in an arena they probably won’t be playing in for much longer. Thornton scored a game-high 24 and grabbed a personal career-high 11 boards, while DeMarcus Cousins put in 17 and dished out 8 assists (!). The Suns are now four and a half games out of postseason positioning, having watched their chances of playing into May all but fade these past few weeks.

Last Call: This shot was initially waived off, but eventually counted. You see, the clock hadn’t stopped after Christian Eyenga’s three and it appeared the ball left Bron’s hands too late. But it was eventually fixed, and yeah: Nice shot, dude.

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bull22

i second that Mr chill. we are all men… so all of us can use a frozen margarita after this BLOG is SHOT for the day.. haha
JTaylor21

Look, over there! More bulls fans crying because irrelevant people are writing irrelevant articles on DRose’s mvp candidacy.
In the words of the late great Bernie Mac; “who gives a motherf*ck”
Mr. Chill

lol…..The only MVP candiate is going to be Tyson Chandler…Enough said.
jimmer

I gotta put this here, cos the other page is too slow….
Where would people rank Roy Jones on an all time list of boxers – fast forward 10 years and that’s where you’ll be putting Lebron James in basketball. A man with all the physical gifts, but leagues below men who genuinely knew their craft.
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

“who gives a motherf*ck” Says the cat who gives a mother*ck enough to comment on it.
Ahh, screw it.
Who’s the bigger fool, the fool or the fool who argues with him?
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Man, Derrick Rose is more deserving than Steve Nash.
Period.
I can’t understand how Rose is getting docked for his team’s talent, but Nash got that full-on media felatio the two years he won it.
YOu tell me this Bulls team is more talented than both of those Phoenix teams? Really, is that that the argument we’re making here?
Are people arguing that Rose is LESS essential to his team’s success than Nash?
See, that’s the argument pro-Rose people have to make. Where did these yahoos stand on Steve Nash and his unimpressive 15 and 11.
http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

Nice Obi-Wan reference, ‘Matic.
JTaylor21

Ha ha, Enigmatic. Looks like you get a little too sensitive whenever DRose is discussed, so I’ll lay off that for a while.
Don’t want you to go all rambo on alaska’s wildlife.
Pharoah

Steve Nash was the wonder boy of the league and the media ran with it. No arguing Rose is more valuable to this lesser Bulls team than Nash was to the more talented Suns back in the day.
http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

Marcus Thornton is a legit starting 2. That trade with the Hornets was great for BOTH teams. The Hornets desperately need Landry and the Kings desperately need Thornton–who knew?
http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

Allen, the argument is that the Bulls success is predicated on “D” and Rose isn’t a part of that at all. Moreover, since Howard impacts his team both offensively AND defensively, then he’s more deserving. Plus if you take him off the team or even replace him with an average player, Orlando would suck.
Oh, and SVG isn’t a very good coach either.
And Jameer is a shell of himself.
So is Hedo.
And Gilbert Arenas is terrible.
Yeah, all of that.
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

Kinda like you get whenever LeBron is discussed, huh?
Pot, meet kettle.
http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

@ Enigmatic: What if he really did have to use the bathroom? Sh!t happens… Pun sort of intended. Sorry.
http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

Eboy you mad?
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Of course there is no arguing.
The biggest excuse though will be “Well advanced statistics weren’t as prevalent back then, and if we look at Nash’s season it as a model of efficiency.”
Eff that.
This ain’t the MEP, or Most Efficient Player. This is about value. And nobody who watches games and understands ball can ignore Derrick Rose’s value to that team. That’s not saying that Chris Paul or Deron Williams couldn’t have had similar success with that team, I think they could have. But, that’s where the list ends. No other point guard in the league right now, not Rondo, not Nash, not Westbrook, not Wall, not anyone, could have the Bulls doing what Derrick Rose has them doing. That’s his value.
Blatant hypocrisy drives me crazy.
http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

Colin Cowherd is dumb.
http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

He literally said LeBron is more deserving of the MVP because his stats show it. Meh, maybe to that point. Then he said The Heat only struggled at the beginning of the season because LeBron was “Forced” into a new locker room with new players and had to get accustomed to that. “Forced” really? So, I guess “The Decision” was a reality TV show, I didn’t see the part where fans got to text in their vote to decide where LeBron went. LeBron has been spectacular on the court, but forced is not a word I would use.
http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

But in this case Allen, his detractors argue that his value has to be clearly defined numerically, otherwise he’s not deserving.
It can’t be defined by what you see on the court because that just plays into the “narrative” and it’s not “factual.”
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Anybody who thinks Rose doesn’t play defense is an idiot. He’s not elite, but he plays defense now, and he showing lots of skill.
The Bulls team is a lot like the 2001 Sixers team. That team didn’t need Iverson to play lockdown defense. They had six or seven other guys who could do that in their sleep. What the needed him to do was carry the team offensively, whether that meant scoring or creating shots for others, no matter what sort of defense the Sixers faced.
That’s Rose’s job. He does it. That’s his value.
There is no way 25, 8 and 4 is less impressive than 15 and 11, and I don’t care what your advanced stats say.
Rose has been without his two best big man for long stretches of the year. He has a piss poor two guard rotation, and no backup small forward.
He plays in a conference that had three established championship contenders before the season.
It’s crap. People are ignoring all the arguments they made for Nash to take something away from Rose. It pisses me off.
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

Teddy, I’d be more inclined to believe it if Kevin McHale and Chris Webber, who played a combined 1,802 regular season games (thanks, basketball-reference!) hadn’t said they had never seen anything like that before.
Anyways, if it IS true…I hope he was taking a dump in Dan Gilbert’s office, right on his desk.
http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

Just saw an article that said: Rose For MVP Is An Insult to Chris Paul.
Wow…
http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

Man, Colin Cowherd is a rambling idiot
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

Damnit, I was gonna say something else to JTaylor about whether he was gonna call AllenP a groupie or tell him to bathe in rose petals cause he’s upset about Rose’s MVP candidacy being questioned too.
But I can’t stay mad at JTaylor…cause he’s one funny a** dude.
Most on here would agree.
Unless your name is Bryan Crawford.
http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

I hear ya. You’re singing to the choir, trust me. That’s why stat guys should get to vote on a Most Efficient Player award or Best Player award and stay out of the MVP conversation.
But once more stat guys start getting actual votes — like Hollinger has right now — then the MVP is really going to become a joke.
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

Who’s Colin Cowherd?
JTaylor21

Who’s arguing with you?
I think that most smart basketball fans believe that what Rose’s doing this year is way more impressive and valuable to his team than what Nash did in his two MVP seasons.
What I would argue is that Rose’s efficiency is the only blemish in his otherwise stellar MVP season. You can’t just ignore a player that everyone is so enamored with shooting 44% from the field and before you go with the “but AI did it” line, I never was a fan of him winning that MVP over a guy like Shaq who dominated like no other player that year.
Also Jim Rome is a imbecile. It amazes me that the so-called world wide leader in sports employs such morons and label them “experts”
Hell, the bird sh*t that dropped on my windshield is more of an expert than most of those clowns.
http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

ESPN radio guy.
http://slamonline.com Allenp

I’m not upset that his candidacy is being questioned.
I’m upset that somebody had the audacity to call him the worst MVP ever, like they didn’t notice what Steve Nash did during his first MVP year.
That’s what I’m mad about.
I’m mad that his team’s “talent” and coaching is being used against him, but it wasn’t against Nash. I’m upset that people are talking about it being an insult to Chris Paul, like it’s Derrick Rose’s fault the voters decided to give Kobe and Dirk some head instead of rewarding Paul for his RIDICULOUS seasons.
If Derrick Rose is insulting Chris Paul, what the EFF did Steve Nash do? Did you see the massive freaking difference between Paul’s numbers and Nash’s? The impact on the entire game.? The difference in team talent?
Hell, and Nash won despite Kobe averaging 35.3 points per game with a collection of bums that makes LeBron’s Cleveland teams look great, and with LeBron averaging 30, 7 and 7 in his third or fourth year in the league fresh out of HIGH SCHOOL. That’s a freaking travesty, or an insult, not putting up 25 and 8 and leading the Eastern Conference.
Feel free to use all of these arguments if y’all plan to debate these losers.
bull22

anyone who keeps saying rose is not MVP does not know what they are talking about… i picked the BULLS to win 55 games and be the 3rd seed, in which i was wrong, they are better then what i predicted! DWIGHT HOWARD should have been the MVP last year, but this is not last year. an INSULT to chris paul, please!! does he have his TEAM in first place in his conferenc? does his TEAM even have 50 wins?
please get the heck out of being a basketball fan if some of you keep saying rose sucks.
its nothing but JEALOUSLY because he is about to be youngest MVP ever!
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

Allen’s not commenting anymore.
He’s preaching.
bull22

but iam so LOVING the media and you fans stressing and whimpering because ROSE can potentially win the award and thats what you are all afraid of! funny as he continues to impress every ROSE rose hater is planning their conspiracy theories and their excuses if he wins MVP! DERRICK keep these jokers on their heels and keep playing hard! CHICAGO!!
http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

You gotta go with Allenp on Kobe. Unless your just a hater. The fact he didn’t win MVP those years are just ridiculous. I mean the starting 4 and 1 was Kwame Brown and Smush Parker…need I say more? Chris Paul should also have an MVP award in his trophy case.
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Black Phantom
Don’t forget, Luke Walton was starting too.
So Kobe took at team with Luke Walton, Kwame Brown and Smush Parker as three of the five STARTERS and got them into the playoffs, and up 3-1 on Phoenix.
Think about that.
bull22

KOBE would have been my pick if his overrated allstar team would have at least won 70 games this season, but they are barely sniffing 60 games….
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
The fact that Steve Nash has as many MVPs as Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal COMBINED is a mothereffing travesty.
JTaylor21

Aye, don’t get mad at me. I’m on your side.
I’ve argued since day one and will continue to that Nash never deserved those MVPs.
Also I agree with you that Rose is no where near the worst MVP of all-time when guys like AI, Nash, and KMalone have trophies on their mantles.
Contary to popular believe, I would actually be happy when DROse wins the MVP because like so many of you guys, I’ve been following dude since HS.
He was the reason why I became a memphis fan overnight and the reason why I’m a huge Caliapri fan. I actually want to see dude succeed because he reminds me of myself. From how laid back and quiet he is to being the same height/size and last but not list representing for all the light-skinned brothers out there.
I may not be a fan of the bulls but trust that I’m a fan of DRose.
http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

@Allenp thanks for correcting me. Luke Walton was pretty bad too, but he slipped my mind because he wasn’t as bad as Kwame or Smush, and JTaylor you’re forgetting Bob McAdoo in the worst MVP convo
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Quiet and laid back?
Are you high?
And Iverson was not a bad MVP.
Who was more valuable to his team that year than Iverson? Who had less help on offense? No other player on that team averaged 15 points per game.
That’s insane.
http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

It is an absolute joke that Kobe has only one MVP award, but then again, the NBA MVP seems to be the least telling of actual MVPs. Valuable should mean value. How much does this player contribute to the success of the team. When Nash won it the second time, Kobe could have taken me and my intramural team to the playoffs. That’s value. Too much of an emphasis on stats and too much of an emphasis on being top in your conference. I’m a Mavs fan and I was happy to see Dirk get his MVP, but the flameout, albeit, not entirely on Dirk’s shoulders, in the playoffs have to raise questions about his value…
JTaylor21

Ok, so now DRose is known as a talkative and expressive person.
How high are you?
JTaylor21

Ok, so now DRose is known as a talkative and expressive person. How high are you?
http://slamonline.com Allenp

Nah, so now you’re known as a quiet and laid back person?
Get it.
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

LMAO
Feez22

the MVP trophy… Pretty much a popularity contest. Rose deservingly or not is riding that CP3 mvp type train that he rode in 07-08. lucky for rose there is no “lifetime achievement” players vying for an mvp this yr… well check that. i have now heard rumblings that KOBE is a top mvp candidate. ESPN is saying it too… we are in for a ride people.
http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

Kobe should be fourth or fifth in line for the MVP. The media has a job to do, and sometimes it is to play devils advocate or stir up controversy where there is none, but come on this race is hardly two horses and it’s getting ugly. If three or four get in the mix…I digress, I wouldn’t have enough time to read all the articles, let alone comments.
http://google J-Ro

Since when did Bulls “fans” take over Laker fans on these forums?? lol
ThaWindy

They say LBJ got a jacket that says,” Long Live the King”…That man head bigger than his feet. Gilbert said not in our garage. That some real soap opera ship..Dont know if yall talked about that…too many comments!!
JTaylor21

Oh, I didn’t know that you could tell how someone acts in real life by the way they type.
Well in that case Ne*grodamus, why don’t you tell me when the world will end, what stocks to invest in and who’s the anti-Christ.
http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

“Take over”?
Me, Diesel, BC, Jahmai, airs – we been here.
Y’all just didn’t care what we had to say, now all of a sudden cats think we just showed up.
http://slamonline.com zoom

^^^I read about the jacket and the Gilbert garage comment. Too funny. Lebron’s been believing his own hype since high school. Gilbert’s a jerk and always will be.

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