Monday, March 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am  |  92 responses

Say Uncle

I hope you didn’t come here for answers…


by Myles Brown / @mdotbrown

I shared some of my thoughts on this hubbub with the good folks over at True Hoop. Here are the rest…

How exactly did we get here? Jalen Rose produced a critically acclaimed documentary rife with talking points: the abuse and exploitation of college athletes, the Fab Five’s actual legacy and even how they served as a precursor of sorts to the Miami Heat. Yet more than a week later we’re still entrenched in the rudimentary conversation of who and what is an Uncle Tom. Now no matter the impetus, we should welcome a discussion on race, particularly when considering it was a central theme of the production. However, in order for such dialogue to be productive, it must be broader and far more honest.

As you’ve probably heard by now, Grant Hill wrote a letter. What is still unclear is whether he watched the documentary in its entirety before firing off this missive. He says that “It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary…” yet the rest of his words are littered with inaccuracies and loaded language indicative of a second-hand accounting. No one-especially Jalen-”disparaged” the Hill’s for their “education, work ethic and commitment to each other.” In fact, he praised them and admitted he was quite jealous of the benefits they provided their son. Furthermore, Jalen only “seems to change the usual meaning of these very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle-class families” if the context of his statements is ignored. That context being Duke’s recruiting practices. The issue isn’t whether blacks value education, it’s whether Duke values only certain kinds of blacks.

Duke has traditionally sought after privately schooled players, which has lent their program an air of affluence and respectability. Such players are committed to the program for the duration of their college careers; ostensibly capable of adhering to both Mike Krzyzewski’s military rule and the rigors of a Duke education. Yet it could also be argued that such commitment keeps roster turnover low and thus, keeps the program strong. To some, it may appear that Duke recruits the class of player they do not just for academic reasons, but to avoid the impoverished players presumably more subject to NCAA violations. Plainly put, kids who are financially secure don’t leave school early and they don’t take money either.

True or not, the perception remains. Such a stigma isn’t necessarily racist, though it certainly has classist undertones. Therefore, those complicit with such a program-particularly black students-will be seen as subservient, which is the traditional definition of an Uncle Tom: subservience or deference to a dominant white power structure. At the risk of putting words in the man’s mouth, this is what Jalen was referencing. Not an outright accusation, just a candid acknowledgment of his feelings at the time. (Again, at the time.) Now the only way to clarify what Duke values and why, is to hear from Coach K himself, who has been curiously quiet during this firestorm. Surely the New York Times would welcome his commentary, no?

Another voice that could have provided some much needed perspective was Chris Webber’s. Unfortunately, Webber declined to participate in the documentary and hasn’t chimed in on the ensuing controversy, so we are left with these words from Bryan Burwell of the St. Louis Dispatch: “I often thought that Chris was uncomfortable in his own skin. He wanted to be a street kid. He wanted everybody to think he was an inner city tough guy and he wasn’t.” Burwell isn’t the first to share such an impression.

Webber attended Detroit Country Day-a private school-and was doggedly recruited by Duke. As it was noted in the Fab Five, Chris enjoyed many of the basic necessities that his public school counterparts saw as luxuries: proper training facilities, a bus, games played without the looming threat of violence. Any reasonable person would understand a young man protecting his future, however it probably wasn’t hard to find a few jaded souls who thought he was soft. Scared, even. Hence the overcompensation. But the question remains: Had Webber attended Duke, would he have been seen as an Uncle Tom too?

Better yet, would he have been accepted by his fellow Blue Devils? Elton Brand knew nothing of silver spoons and felt the sting of his classmates contempt upon leaving the program after only two years, which Webber did himself. Brand’s experience lends credence to the notion that all Duke players aren’t ‘posh yuppies’, yet it also perpetuates the impression that ‘outsiders’ aren’t welcome. Which brings us right back where we started.

So were Jalen Rose’s comments ignorant? Of course. Whether in past or present tense, Rose was/is guilty of, as Hill put it, “stereotyping others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger.” However the fact that Hill’s statement was afforded space in the paper of record may bolster Rose’s initial assertions regarding privilege. Can we assume Jalen would have been given such an opportunity? As a reminder, “I looked at it as they are who the world accepts and we are who the world hates.”

Regardless, it’s time we abandoned the paternalistic instincts to castigate a young man’s ignorance and pay equal attention to the point that he felt ignored. This isn’t a call for a referendum on Duke nor a weighty love letter to the Fab Five. It’s an opportunity for us to challenge ourselves to have these conversations on a deeper level and a more frequent basis;to examine the socioeconomic and cultural influences that breed such issues. No, black people aren’t a monolith. Yes, education is a priority within the black community. This shouldn’t be news to anyone.

The 30 for 30 documentary series has been a fantastic success, an informative and entertaining experience for us all. However for all of the provocative stories it’s produced; including Billy Corben’s captivating look at ‘The U’ and Steve James’ numbing recollection of Allen Iverson’s trial, this is the first attempt at a substantial discussion of race we’ve encountered.

It shouldn’t take one man calling another a ‘bitch’ for us to get there.

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  • http://slamonline Allenp

    My n(igga…
    Lol.
    As you said, these are the types of conversations we should have more often if folks truly want to use sports as a prism through which to examine the world.
    And I remember the heat Elton Brand and Cory Maggette caught when they left school. William Avery too. It was seen as a betrayal of the program.
    I thought that Rose was wrong, as a child, to blithely throw around the Uncle Tom label. But it was difficult for me to judge him because I often did the same at his age. But, I thought he was probably right that Duke had a particular black student in mind when it recruited back in the early 90s, not 30 years from a time when it didn’t really want black folks of any kind on its campus. Given the politics of that time, why would this be hard to believe? And, to a certain degree, Duke is a private institution and is welcome to recruit whoever they deem acceptable.
    But, I can see how that would be galling and insulting to a young Jalen Rose dealing with so much other rejection in his life. I can see how he would question the “blackness” of another young black man who would attend a school like that. I could see all that easily.

  • Caribbean Crossover

    Great article

  • http://slamonline.com rudy

    I felt like Jalen was just trying to play up his image for the story. He was trying to act like he was “hard” throughout the documentary. That wasn’t the Jalen that you see on ESPN everyday. Having a make-up artist is not make you “hood”, my friend.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Rudy
    I imagine Jalen at 17 is far different from Jalen at 36. Cats who are still “hood” at 36 usually aren’t having a good life. Lol.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Great work, Myles.

  • marc

    lmao @allenp that is so true

  • ERob

    This is easily the best, most honest article I’ve seen on this “debate.” I liked Wilbon’s piece, but I felt he was constrained due to his friendship w/ Grant.

    @allenp – LOL!!! U ain’t neva’ lie. When you know betta’ you do betta. LOL!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I can relate to the way Jalen felt “at the time” 100%. My teenage years and even parts of my adulthood were spent hating Duke.
    From them beating UNLV, to when Christian Laettener intentionally stepped on that Kentucky players chest and then they cut to a picture of his mom in a neck brace clapping, to the infamous LaCrosse incident.
    I carried a disdain for Duke for a long time because it was always symbolic of racism to me and if you were black and you went there, I felt like you were a “sell-out.”
    But now that I’m a grown man with kids of my own, hating Duke just doesn’t seem to matter as much anymore. I’ve talked to Coach K before and his nephew is a friend of mine and a really good dude. I still don’t like them, but I also don’t hate them like I used to either.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Exactly B.C.
    I still like for them to lose, but I don’t hate them.
    For a time, Duke was supposed to represent everything that was “right” with college basketball. The Fab Five and UNLV were supposed to represent everything that was wrong.
    But, in my neighborhood, we loved both of those teams. To us, as kids, those players were “keeping it real.” They were like the cats we knew who were hooping. So when the media kept saying they are evil, and the Duke boys are angels, despite the evidence to the contrary, it created an abiding distaste.
    Now, as an adult, I realize they are all kids caught up in a multi-billion dollar system getting pimped like all the other kids. Sure, Im still not a fan, but it’s kind of pathetic for a 30-year old man to hate children. You know?

  • Bob

    I read several comments – including Grant Hill’s – BEFORE watching the film. The facts are: 1.) Jalen was very complimentary of Grant Hill and Grant’s family, 2.)he praised Christain Laetner admitting that he realized Laetner had serious game once he competed against him, and 3.)he acknowledged that Duke beat the Fab Five in the NCAA finals because “Duke played like champions” down the stretch of the final game. The profane comments and slurs in the film were absolutely necessary to establish the state of mind that existed in five teenaged boys who were suffering the effects of racism. There was no evidence that Rose harbors personal antipathy toward Grant Hill, coach K, or Duke University. He was simply being honest about the environment that shaped his youth, and how righteous anger fueled the fire in his belly. The film also directed a bright light on the hypocricy of a system which allows college coaches to be paid four million dollars per year, yet refuses to compensate star players and punishes them severely if they sell their own personal property (see AJ Green at the University of Georgia). As a white male who played D-1 college hoops in the segregated south, I am not a fan of Rose’s taste in music or his sense of style. But I recognize that he is an incredibly honest and transparent person, who is loyal to his family and friends. I can learn much from him and thank him for his work on this important film.

  • el_larsen

    great piece(apart the webber comparison)and allen p is once again right

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Allen, in a way, Duke STILL represents everything that’s right with college basketball.
    They’re on TV probably more than any other program in the country and when tournament time rolls around, who ALWAYS gets the easiest road to the Final Four?
    If the Dallas Cowboys are considered as “America’s Team,” then Duke University is ABSOLUTELY “College Basketball’s Team,” or at least the media’s favorite squad. They’re so protected that it’s ridiculous.
    “If” they were cheating like so many other college programs do — like the Running Rebels or the Fab Five — you would NEVER hear a word about it. That more than anything is what I think makes them such media darlings. The perception that they don’t HAVE to cheat to get players, do well and compete.
    If anything, that’s what I hate now more than the kids.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’ve always hated their basketball program more than any of their individual players….well, except for Christian Laettner. And Coach K just looks like an unlikable, rodent-faced pri*k for the last 20 years, too.

  • Dave

    So are the white kids who also come from nice backrounds and follow Coach K’s strict orders also “uncle tom’s”? you dont see a lot of poor white kids from the sticks going to Duke either. So they are uncle tom’s too?

    and duke has been recruiting the same way LONG before kids started jumping early to the pros, so the idea that they just want rich kids who dont need to jump is false. and every kid from every school that jumps gets some kind of flack.

    get over it people. stop defending this kind of idiocy. giving this kind of thinking just perpetuates the problem.

    oh, and Coach K might not have had time to Pen out a response to this issue because he is in the tournament. Although, if i were him i would not even dignify that utter idiocy with a response.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    You liked Christian Laettener?!
    The most universally HATED Blue Devil of all-time? The one who kept Shaq and Jim Jackson off the Dream Team? Really?!
    This puts a strain on our friendship, E.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    My bad, E… I read that wrong and had a reflex action for a sec, haha.
    I STILL hate Laettener to this day and I always will. He was symbolic of every racist though/feeling that I had about Duke.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No, no, no….I think you misread what I meant….I never really HATED any of their players EXCEPT him. I always wished that he would get a career ending injury, but I was only 21 back then, so I was a product of hate for them then.

  • Miguel

    Spot On – balanced. Much said about “at the time.” Jalen was in High School in the late 1980′s. I taught in the Bronx at the time – played a ton of ball, an coached it there too. In the 80s everyone made money – except the kids in the City. Crack was epidemic and we had a President who endorsed “just say No.” The violence in the Bronx was unbelievable. I’m sure Detroit was the same or worse. The feeling was that society collectively didn’t care about the City kids…because society didn’t. Still doesn’t. Remember when white people thought it was a compliment to describe a black man as “articulate.” That was the world Jalen grew up in. And instead of selling out his anger, culture and soul, Rose embraced it and said to the world, “Here I am…deal with it…’cause there’s millions just like me.” Early Rap artists (Chuck D, Dre, etc.) said the same thing…but they were artists. Jalen lived it and carried it into the arena of sports. And we love him today because we realize that when given the chance he has “represented” in thought and word, for those millions of disenfranchised for nearly two decades now.
    What makes me chuckle is that the Dukies are proud that their team, as defending National Champs, guys 22-23 years old, barely beat a fresh crop of 17-18 year olds who’d barely played together much.

  • izzo

    I see Duke players as more empty vessels for me to direct my disdain towards rather than any individual personality to dislike. Having said that, f*ck Brian Zoubek.

  • el_larsen

    well i must admit that i liked bobby hurley…
    sorry but he was a floor general

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    I just always hated the snobiness of Duke.
    Their “we’re better than you, and even if you beat us in basketball, you still suck at life” additude.
    I respect the hell out of Coach K cause, well, he’s an amazing coach, not to mention a Chicago guy and former military, but I’ve always hated the kids he’s recruited.
    The 2001 national championship squad was the exception for me.
    Battier, Williams, Boozer and Dunleavy never really came off, to me anyways, as snobby.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    I have an uncle named Tom. Holiday gatherings are awkward.

  • el_larsen

    cosign miguel!

  • whitney

    I am a white female who grew up in a very poor state. I can tell you that I was a 4.0 student and Duke never even looked my general direction. I was a star athlete and did go on to play college sports. Not at Duke though. I agree with Jalen a hundred percent. They look for a certain type of student and that’s it. It is what makes them Duke. For example do you think would have recruited Randy moss. He was equally as good in basketball as football. The answer to that is no they wouldn’t have. The truth isn’t known for why he lost his scholarship to Florida because of a fight. They left out what the white kid said to him( which was the n word) and it was said over an over again. Marshall was the only place at the time that would take a risk on him. Same thing with Fab 5. Alot of colleges didn’t want to tarnish their reputation to take these fine athletes in and show them a good path to follow. Not just athletics but educational as well. Someone needs to take more time and truely look at why some kids go through. Its not all peaches and creme. Also is it really that big of a surprise that he felt that way. Seriously he was young and resented. What grant hill had. At the outside looking in its easy to think must be nice. Still goes on today in kids and adults, blacks and whites. When you have to struggle you resent people that have it easier than you.

  • rianito

    Its funny to me that this turned into a Duke Haters Club Convention. Some guy chuckles because they barely beat someone. A W is a W no matter what. You can write a book on why everyone hates Duke, but I am sure the main reason is that they ususally beat your team

  • CONEY ISLANER

    LOL@ RYAN. I have and will always have reservations against Duke. I don’t like anything having to do with or stemming from that place or basketball program. Everything about them rubs me the wrong way.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @whitney – that was an awesome comment.
    Congrats on getting out of the tough situation you were handed through hard work, both athletically and academically.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    What in the hell defines “blackness?”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nima Zarrabi

    Excellent work, Myles.

  • izzo

    This was excellent and Jalen Rose agrees.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Myles Brown

    As long as Jalen liked it, I won. Thanks everybody.

  • Tom White

    I’ve read Myles’ article and skimmed over some of the comments, and remain disgusted by the whole situation. First of all, glorifying a jealousy and resentment of others is silly on all fronts, I didn’t realize that this is or was an accepted form of emotion. Secondly, inner-city bred or born is no excuse, blacks in my family – sharecroppers, slaves,porters, bell-hops – never used their predicament or socio-economic status as an excuse for someone to feel sorry for them. I get sick of the Bryan Crawford’s of the world, he of Jackson State fame(No surprise he went to a HBCU),constantly making excuses for blacks, admitting to being jealous like a resentful b*tch, all the while hating those that lived life the right way, and didn’t spend much of their formidable high-school years smoking weed, drinking forty’s, skipping school to go have unprotected sex with some nubian hood queen.

    I come from a family of hard-working men and women, that used to sweep up feces and semen after their white counterparts, never passing along that jealous, resentful gene that has permeated black culture since the end of slavery.

    My family, single mothers and all, must have been cut from a different cloth, because they never not once taught us to covet thy neighbor’s life.

    In my black family, our parents, mothers, fathers, uncles, aunts, elders and mentors instilled in us the belief and confidence that regardless of color or socio-economic status, how much money you have, where you live, or what you got – you could be successful in this world.

    We were never taught to be jealous of those with money, both parents in the home, or blacks that went to good schools. In fact, in my family, one that understands and values the importance of community, we applauded it and used them as inspiration.

    Jalen Rose is obviously bitter, angry, hurt and resentful that his father(former NBA player Jimmy Walker) never wanted to have anything to do with him. Obviously the values instilled in him by his mom, and his elders on the mean streets of Detroit taught him to hate other blacks that find success. Hate those that better themselves. Hate your black brother because he is more fortunate than you – classic black self-hatred complex.

    I’m sure Mr.Crawford subscribes to this.

    Jalen isn’t the first fatherless black child raised by a single mom, and he certainly won’t be the last. It’s sad yet typical of his type of black person, the one from the mean-streets of Detroit, those that praise and glorify drug-dealers, criminal behavior and “keeping it real”, to hate the blacks in this society that chose to focus on education, hard work, sacrificing and resisting temptations, living the right way – no matter their surroundings.

    Jalen’s dad not acknowledging his existence isn’t his fault, nor is it Grant Hill’s, Thomas Hill’s, Johnny Dawkins or any of the Duke African-Americans that have lettered in basketball over the years.

    Ironic that a Michigan man, an excellent academic institution in it’s own right,with plenty of white students and alumni base, has the nerve and gall to not share his perspective as a so-called 18-year old black youth, but echo the sentiments of many jealous, envious black Americans that existed and still remain in today’s society.

    This type of black person is jealous of light-skinned people, curly hair, probably hates Obama and absolutely loathes interracial children.

    To hate Duke, the type of players it recruits, private school education or successful black people is the old “crabs in barrel” stigma that many lazy, uninspired, prideful and flat-out stupid blacks still subscribe to this very day. You should have seen all the brothas and sistas coming out the woodwork on Twitter, many of whom attending mainly white schools, applauding and lauding Rose’s ignorance and jealousy, as if it’s ok.

    It’s one thing to support a person’s perspective, but to endorse ignorance, racism and self-hatred is the most irresponsible thing a person can do.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign The Philosopher.
    That being said, good stuff Myles.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    “Tom White.” That is a good one.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Damn, how come I have to be the focus of Uncle Tom White’s rant? Dude knows a lot about me, obviously, but not nearly enough…
    First off, the fact that you even mentioned HBCU, smoking weed, drinking 40′s, skipping school, having sex with “hood queens” is stereotypical in itself.
    White kids do similar, if not worse stuff all the time as kids, and also at predominantly white colleges.
    Secondly, just because someone feels envious of smothers circumstances makes them scum? Please.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I, like Jalen never knew my father and that causes a resentment in a lot of kids who grow up under those circumstances. If that wasn’t your circumstance in life, great, but don’t judge. The only way it’s a problem is if you allow it to carry over into your adult life.
    I’m a MARRIED father of 4 kids and I made a promise to myself that they would never grow up to feel the way that I did when I was a kid.
    Like you, I skimmed over the rest of that bullsh*t that you wrote, Uncle Ruckus, but you are far worse making ignorant commented like this as an obviously educated adult, than Jalen Rose made as a kid at 18.

  • izzo

    Is Tom White the guy who wrote that “I love Duke” piece a few months back.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    GREAT CALL, izzo!

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Oh yeah, I remember that piece!
    LOL

  • el_larsen

    tom you ‘ve lost it!
    rose isn’t jealous ,look what he and his fab have achieved!don’t think he ll trade this for anything

  • Tom White

    Look Huey Newton, Stokley Carmichael, Angela Davis, whomever you fancy yourself after, this isn’t about what the “white” kids are doing. That’s the problem, always focusing on what someone else has or does, instead of taking some personal responsibility and dealing with your own issues. You became the focus because you make reckless comments and assumptions constantly, whether it be here in this comment chain, or on Twitter. I mentioned the HBCU, because in my experience, alums of these institutions tend to hold petty, trivial vendettas against blacks that attend so-called “white” colleges like Duke. I never knew my father, aside from the few months they tell me he stuck around as a toddler, so spare me that sad song. I didn’t grow up resenting all black men, instead I used the lack of a father as inspiration, motivation to take care of my family unit. It is a problem to hold these absurd, jealous, estrogen based feelings as a youth, because it holds you back. I grew up and went to school with your type Marcus Garvey Crawford, those young black males mad at the world because they felt life dealt them a bad hand. It wouldn’t shock me if you had some jail time on your record as a result of this uncontrollable, misplaced anger, I laughed at your ignorance then and still do now. The angry black man is no longer fashionable unfortunately, yet your revel in it and wear that badge with a troubling amount of pride and valor. Your attempts to project the current feelings of closure are futile, to the trained eye at least. I’m sure you and your cronies chiming in on this comment thread, are sending each other cyber daps, celebrating what you nitwits think are zingers. They aren’t. They simply show your lack of connection and frankly education on the true issues that consistently plague black society from generation to generation. Skim all you want Booker T.Crawford, that’s your prerogative, it doesn’t bother me one bit. I will take me and my double Duke degrees and continue to live the life I created for myself, while you continue to toil, trying to make a living a black nationalist contributor to SLAM magazine. Good luck to you bro.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    I am so very proud of the comments on this piece. Even several of the ones that disagreed with what I wrote.
    Bravo slam commenters, bravo.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    Wow @ “Tom White”. This isn’t the forum for this type of comment but I’m going to say it anyway. I’m just as disgusted and ashamed of the Tom White’s of the world as I am of the drug dealer, rapist, and career criminal that does his part in helping to destroy our black and Latino communities. Tom, you disgust me. I’d waste time being angry at you but I take solace in the fact that you probably hate yourself more than I ever could. Sucks to be you, Sambo.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Damn, I just got to Tom White’s comment.
    Anyway, I went to an HBCU. Howard University, then the University of Maryland-College Park.
    Outside of my family, my God and my friends, there is nothing I cherish more than my degree from Howard, and the time I had there.
    And Bison don’t make excuses.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You know the funny thing about Tom White’s comment?
    I’ve never pictured Bryan Crawford as the Marcus Garvey types. (As if there is something wrong with being like a black immigrant who created a nationwide organization and attempted to create his own business, even if he was plagued by some inner demons.)
    I’ve always seen Bryan as fairly conservative on racial matters in general, strangely enough. So weird that Tom White has him pegged as some sort of black nationalist.
    Anyway, it takes all kinds of black folks. While I disagree vehmently with Tom, I can’t even express how much, I don’t condemn, nor do I think he should be called names. Expecting all black folks to think alike, or have the same values only plays into the stereotypes already out there in the world.
    Clearly Tom has had some negative experiences with black folks who went to HBCus, or who generally disdained him for one reason or another. Just like Jalen Rose’s life was colored by his prior experiences, it’s obvious Tom’s has been as well.

  • Tom White

    @Allenp and I know plenty of Morehouse men, Central State alums and Tuskegee grads that do. Good for you and your HBCU degree.

    @zoom It’s this thinking that is shameful. To put me in the same category of drug dealers, rapist and career criminals shows just how much you know about the real damage being done in communities across the country. I needn’t dignify you with a clever, witty retort, ignorance such as yours won’t be addressed.

  • Tom White

    @Allenp Interesting you didn’t say that Mr.Crawford wasn’t the Huey Newton type though, just the Jamacian immigrant. Interesting. I have no problem with those that disagree with me, I wouldn’t expect most to understand where I came from, it’s obviously a totally different place than you. This isn’t about HBCU’s (though I stand by my statements about the type of black person that graduates from them), it’s about the disease plaguing so many generations of blacks, and the primary reason why we black people are now at the bottom of the American social, political and economic totem pole.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    First of all, Tom White isn’t black. Let’s get that out of the way. Second, Tom White is a writer with a bone to pick with me and I’m almost 100% positive that I know who it is. His comments were a dead give away and the fact that he only came after me even though another writer, who is black, made similar comments.
    It’s all good “Eminem,” I know it’s you and this is why I don’t respect you and whyI think you’re a spineless coward. Haha… You think you’re so smart. Hardly…

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    This fool just keeps sticking his ignorant, uncultured foot in his mouth. The funny thing is, he’s actually proving Jalen Rose’s point. He epitomizes everything Rose described. Again Tom, I’m ashamed of you. I hate the fact that you’re black more than you do, which says A LOT.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    There are plenty of diseases plaguing black folks. Plenty.
    I picked Garvey because he was the least “militant” given the traditionally definition you were using. If Bryan didn’t measure up to Garvey as far as a race radical then he has no shot at catching, Huey, Angela or Stokely.
    The place you’re coming from isn’t unusual for me at all. I’ve encountered it many times when I turned down mainstream opportunities for other choices.
    Life is too short. You went to school where you thought would best prepare you for the life you wanted to live, I did the same.
    Zoom calling you a Sambo was just as wrong as Jalen calling Grant Hill an Uncle Tom as a teenager. Yet, I can understand why he reacted in anger because you didn’t really make much of an effort hide your disdain and disgust for Crawford.
    Moreover, while you have very valid points about the dangers of resentment and jealousy, you seem to be ignoring the dangers of elitism.
    I find it strange that you castigated Bryan for his comments that expressed an understanding for Jalen’s prior beliefs because Crawford can understand how a person’s environment and life experiences can affect their attitudes.
    It’s strange because you’ve clearly done the same thing.
    Anyway, good day to you sir.

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