Thursday, March 24th, 2011 at 10:00 am  |  88 responses

SVG: MVP Race Already Decided by Media

According to Stan Van Gundy, Derrick Rose has been prematurely anointed as the L’s most valuable player by the voting press. The Orlando Sentinel has the always amusing quotes from the Magic head coach: “I don’t think it’s wide-open,’ Van Gundy said before his Orlando Magic faced the New York Knicks on Wednesday night at Madison Square Garden. ‘The media seems to have made their decision and they’re the ones who vote. So I think it’s over. I just listen and read: I think it’s over. Derrick Rose has it. I haven’t really read or heard a media guy who is going another way at this point. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t win it.’ Van Gundy said nobody in the league impacts as many possessions as Howard does. Van Gundy added, however, that he ‘would have no problem at all’ if Rose wins.”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Anybody know the last time a regular season MVP was part of a championship squad?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    The media does have the final say in this annual popularity contest that is the NBA MVP. So yeah, word to SVG… It’s pretty much a wrap at this point.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Tim Duncan, 2003.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Oh, stop your got damn whining already.
    If your team had won more games, your boy would have a better chance.
    Everyone knows Dwight is balling out of his mind.
    Everyone also knows Rose is leading the Bulls to a record NO ONE outside their locker room thought would be possible.

  • http://www.basketball-reference.com JTaylor21

    Guess what I heard through the grapevine? That DRose is the most dominant PG since Magic. Looks like the Rose train keeps chugging along at an alarming rate. It’s getting ludacris if you ask me, everyone’s acting like it’s DRose and a bunch of bums on that bulls team.
    He has a very good supporting cast with the league’s best D, best new coach and one of the best second unit.
    People claiming that dude is the best PG since Magic are BS themselves and dismissing what JKidd, KJ, GP, SNash, CP, and DWill accomplished.
    That’s what media hype does for you.

  • MLK4Life

    Dwight can’t get the award playing on a team that will be the fourth seed at best. He’s in second place and will stay there. Derrick shows that the race is over when he steps on the court every night.

  • rich

    i think if the magic had miamis recodd he would win it because he completely changes the game on both sides of the ball, and no guard can do that save for maybe chris paul

  • cramzy

    The Derrick Rose backlash is on the rise. Dudes already writing articles about how he’ll be the worst mvp ever, he shoots too much, “why does kobe only have one?”.. I think he deserves it. The Bulls are playing for the number 1 seed in the east with Boozer & Noah out half the year and he’s putting up 25 & 8. He’s obviously a leader and he’s worked to improve his game. I respect it.

  • JTaylor21

    Guess what I heard through the grapevine?
    That DRose is the most dominant PG since Magic. Looks like the Rose train keeps chugging along at an alarming rate. It’s getting Ludacris if you ask me, everyone’s acting like it’s DRose and a bunch of bums on that bulls team.
    He has a very good supporting cast with the league’s best D, best new coach and one of the best second unit.
    People claiming that dude is the best PG since Magic are BS themselves and dismissing what JKidd, KJ, GP, SNash, CP, and DWill accomplished.
    That’s what media hype does for you.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    I do think DROSE deserves the award and deserves a Prognosticator award for what he said before the season. But honestly, I think there has been so much hype around Rose being the Youngest MVP ever and first to win one without ever having recieved a single vote before; that some voters will shy away from voting for Rose and make the final tally closer than speculated.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    NICKNAME FOR ROSE: Derrick “The Horns” Rose. Because when you mess with the Bulls, he is what you get.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn you Slam!!!! Why isn’t my comment showing up??

  • http://hoopistani.blogspot.com hoopistani

    Whoever gets the MVP this season will be a debatable choice, or as some wrote above, a “worst MVP ever” pick. Think about it – Rose? Dwight? a Wade-assisted LeBron? A LeBron-assisted Wade? SOMEONE has to get it, right? And no 1 deserves it more than D-Rose.

  • JTaylor21

    Guess what I heard through the grapevine?
    That DRose is the most dominant PG since Magic. Looks like the Rose train keeps chugging along at an alarming rate. It’s getting Ludacris if you ask me, everyone’s acting like it’s DRose and a bunch of bums on that bulls team.
    He has a very good supporting cast with the league’s best D, best new coach and one of the best second unit.
    People claiming that dude is the best PG since Magic are BS themselves and dismissing what JKidd, KJ, GP, SNash, CP, and DWill accomplished.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I’m having the same problem, JT.
    But cosign cramzy.

  • Ses

    There is no one more deserving of the award then DRose. Chicago was fighting for a playoff spot last year, now they are sitting atop the east. It wasn’t Boozer , it wasn’t Noah, (Both injured alot during the season) it was the maturation of DRose and team chemistry. Without him the Bulls are not in the top spot, period!

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Stan is right, but it happens this way every year. The year KG won it, it was a done deal in January. Slam referenced as much in an old Peja Stojakovic article.
    Stan is also right that Dwight impacts more possessions than any other player. Orlando’s roster without him is very unbalanced.

  • Johnson

    This happens every year, the media will almost unanimously vote on an MVP candidate prematurely. Nothing new. Quit crying, SVG.There’s a reason why Rose is finally getting most of the shine for MVP. Dwight does come in 2nd, in my opinion for MVP.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I read an article saying that Derrick Rose was no more worthy of being an MVP candidate than Russell Westbrook (and others) and the writer closed with, “Let science into your heart! Just say no to Mitch Albom Logic.”

  • bull22

    derrick rose has worked very hard to even be mentioned as MVP, and has not been given anything. the numbers and bigtime games against teams with winning records speaks for himself. alot of credit has to be given to this dude considering the miami big three nut jobs rejected playing with the bulls. i picked the bulls as a 55 win team and a 3rd seed, with rose winning MVP. but this has gone beyond my wildest expectations! GO BULLS!

  • MLK4Life

    Who saw this coming besides him? In his third year? And he’s only going to get better. Chicago is in for a treat. When the King of Chicago puts his stamp on you, you’re in good shape.

  • Do Work

    does stan van gundy do anything except for complain?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    If you’re going to be an MVP you need to be on a first or second place team. Being the MVP of a fourth place team just doesn’t happen: “Congratulations! Your outstanding play has brought your team to…the middle of the pack!”

  • Overtime

    I just cant get the shooting percentage out of the discussion, Rose needs that to rise, quick

  • http://www.slamonline.com peter

    If shaq only won one MVP, Dwight shouldn’t expect one any time soon.

  • Bulls2011champs

    Word to MLK4 life and @ jumpman that comment made my day

  • http://www.slamonline.com Todd Spehr

    The vague criteria of the MVP is annoying. Rose has had a terrific 10-11 and is awesome to watch, but people justify his season at the expense of his team’s great defense and extremely underrated depth. He is not “the” reason Chicago is having a great year, but rather, “a” reason. Also, he’s not doing anything KD didn’t do last season or Paul didn’t do in 2008. Once again, I love Rose and love how he approaches the game. But the yearly high-level consistency of guys like Howard will succumb to the sudden snap of attention we have for Rose. It’s an individual award and should go to the player who’s had the best individual season – I’m not sure that’s what voters think about.

  • MLK4Life

    @Overtime: So his shooting percentage is more important than the fact that his team may finish with the 1st seed in the East? Nevermind the fact that without him they’d be a 20-30 win team?

  • NeonNightRider

    They should just not have an M.V.P. this year, if no one truly deserves it. lol.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Todd Spehr
    All good points, how ever KD did finish second in voting last year, Paul finished second in 08.
    The reasons they did not win the award were Brons phenomenal season, and Kobe’s lifetime achievement award, respectively.
    There is no one having that kind of year.
    MLK
    How do you know they would be a 20-30 win team without Rose?

  • MLK4Life

    @Todd
    He is the biggest reason. His leadership as well as his play. His defense has also gotten better. The Bulls have had a great season because they have a great coach who’s brought a defensive mindset to the team. Deng has been consistently good all season. When healthy, Noah and Boozer have played well. Their bench has chipped in when necessary. But you can’t deny that Rose has improved significantly since last season. Kevin Durant’s Thunder were the 8th seed in the West last season so I’m not seeing the comparison there. The best individual season has been had by Rose. The MVP is not about the guy with the best statistical season or the guy who’s been the best individual player in the season. It’s for the player who’s had the most impact on a top contending team.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @Overtime – one guy is shooting the ball from all over the floor. The other is dunking every single one of his shots. I wouldn’t expect the percentages to be close. I find it funny that people saying Kobe should get it have no problem with his .45%, but are appauled at Rose’s .44%.

  • MLK4Life

    @AllBall
    You think they’d be better than a 30 win team? Rose is not only the best finisher but the best creator on the team. Boozer and Deng’s numbers would be significantly down.

  • JTaylor21

    Since when does 46-26 equate a team “middle of the pack”? Gotta love the logic rose fans use to validate him and put down the next guy.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Kevin Durants Thunder were a 50 win team.
    DIESEL
    Great point, I think most people have gotten past Rose’ perceived inefficiencies.
    MLK
    Honestly, I have no clue.

  • Josh

    I think SVG saying Dwight impacts more posessions than anyone else isn’t necessarily true. I think Rose probably does since he starts every posession for a team that is going to finish first or second in a tougher Eastern conference. I do believe Van Gundy thinks Dwight isn’t given enough credit for the work he does, which is hard to argue with.

  • ThaWindy

    DRose = no hype needed. Ask the fans in Altanta,Indiana, Milwaukee, Miami, New Jersey, (the list go’s on) who the MVP is, cuz they all chant it whn Rose is in their city.. DRose Youngest MVP in NBA History. DRose Youngest Finals MVP!..LOL GO BULLS!

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Josh
    Rose has the ball more, that does not mean he makes more of an impact. Dwight effects the game a lot more on the defensive end, and is almost as effective offensively. That doesn’t mean Rose is not the MVP.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    jtaylor – When there’s 16 playoff teams and you have the 8th best record out of them, that’s middle of the pack. Doesn’t get more middle then that.

  • ThaWindy

    NO ONE expected the Bulls and Rose to be this good…a contender…What has Howard done this season that he didnt do last season? He’s just a cry baby who wants attention for his good play. He even agrees that Rose is the MVP (on the dan patrick show)..Dont be suckered into thinking Rose is not the MVP cuz people are saying..its media hype…or cpmpared to other guards..Westbrook(whom I got love for) is not the MVP of his team.. Rose is the MVP cuz he embodies what the award means..you think it..he’s it!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Van Gundy is a whiner.
    The Magic are fourth in the East despite having better overall talent.
    That makes the impact issue moot.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Dwight’s team was picked as a contender before the season. Now nobody believes they have a shot, and that’s after they had to make a blockbuster trade because they appeared even more lackluster early in the year.
    Nobody said Chicago was a contender. Improved, yes. Best team in the East, no. But they have proven themselves to be the most consistent and best team in the East.
    Nobody on the team outside of Rose and Boozer can create their own shot consistently. Their two best frontcourt players have been hurt all season. Rose is putting up 25 and 8 and has made impressive strides as a defender.
    Dwight has improved as a scorer, but he still lacks the willpower or respect to make his teammates get him the ball every time he deserves it.
    Rose is clearly the MVP.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diesel
    Playoff teams’s only make up half the league. If you’re a top four playoff team, that means you’re one of the eight best teams in a 32 team league.
    That’s not middle of the pack. That’s what JTaylor means.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Word to LeBron. He’s still the MVP to real fans. I would even respect D12, who by the way is having a monster year, despite numerous roster changes just like the Bulls.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Todd Spehr

    So in essence Howard is a victim of our own incorrect preseason expectations and Rose is a benefactor of them? That’s an outside factor. It’s an individual award based on what’s done on the floor. Rose is terrific, great to watch, always plays hard, and has a fan-friendly style. But what evidence to we have that he, personally, is having a better individual season that Howard, LeBron, Kobe, etc? Once again, high-level consistency year after year is superseded by what grabs our attention today. But also, the vagueness of the criteria is what leads to these chase-your-tail discussions.

  • T-Money

    Todd Spehr
    People accurately judged the Bulls roster. No one is having a career year outside of Derrick Rose, correct?
    There defense has improved by leaps and bounds and the overall team management is better without Vinny Del Negro, but the biggest difference between the Bulls of the past two years and the Bulls of this year has been Derrick Rose having amazing scoring binges, consistently dominating the better points in the League, and somehow finding the ability to will his team to victories over more talented squads.
    Agreed?
    Expectations were based on the information available, and all the information available suggested that the Bulls were at best a four seed or five seed, and were in danger of a first round ouster by the Hawks. Nobody believes that now simply because of the incredibly high level Rose is playing at, and because of the consistency of effort Thibodeau has imparted.
    If Thibodeau can be a frontrunner for Coach of the Year, why can’t Rose be the frontrunner for MVP? The only reason Thibs is the frontrunner is because of the team’s talent, surprising win total and the fact that this is first year as a head coach despite a long-time on the sidelines. Two of those three things also apply to Rose, and the fact that he’s only a third year player doing what he’s doing is also amazing.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That T-Money comment at 1:19 is me.
    Dwight is putting up great individual numbers… for him.
    He’s taken a massive leap forward as a scorer on the block, but his individual improvement has not translated into improvement by his team. More importantly, he appears to lack the cachet or willpower to demand changes by his teammates that would allow him to truly dominate the League. He’s not the MVP.

  • slamfan4life

    DRose>D12
    Award goes to best player on best team; Spurs really have no BEST player
    Rose is EASILY the best on the #1 seeded east team

  • bull22

    to say NO EXPECTED is an overreach. bulls fans who have followed him since his rookie season remember him saying he wanted to be MVP in his rookie year. those of you who are saying derrick rose is a surprise must be just be tuning in to him this season. but those of us that watched him in his rookie season, and that 7 game battle against the celtics knew he was capable of this….

  • ThaWindy

    I’ve been watching Rose and the Bulls since his rookie year(and before) also.. and I didnt expect them to be this GOOD this SOON. To be a true contender… a playoff team, yes… but a finals team this year??? no. To see them play and jell they way they have..Im totally surprised. I expected them to be good but not this good

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