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Tuesday, April 12th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  225 responses

Danny Granger: Bulls Easier to Beat Than Celtics


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

The Playoff picture in the Eastern Conference was firmed up last night, and now teams can start slinging verbal arrows at one another before the real battles begin.

Danny Granger’s Pacers will face Chicago in the first round, the conference’s best team, led by the League MVP. According to Granger, though, the Bulls aren’t the toughest opponent for the upstart Pacers to face.

ESPN has the bulletin-board material:

For those of you who may have missed it, asked if he’d rather face the Celtics or the Bulls in the first round, Granger chose the Bulls. “Boston’s a different monster,” he said. “They don’t have the best record in the East, but they won championships; they know how to do it. They have four, five guys you have to worry about.

“Chicago, they go as Derrick Rose goes. If you make a concerted effort to stop Derrick Rose, you have a better chance of beating them.”

To be fair to Danny Granger, a lot of people feel the same way he does. Boston has been there plenty of times, and they are former champs. All Chicago’s done so far is have an extraordinary regular season.

Of course, the Bulls probably don’t need the added fuel to beat Indiana, but you can be sure that Granger’s quotes will be on their minds once the series begins.

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  • RobbieJay

    and now boozer will be twice as obnoxiously loud. GIMMIE DAT

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Pacers play f*cking hard. They have a physical team that won’t be scared to play the Bulls. Young dudes sometimes don’t fear the moment ’cause they’ve never been there and can’t rationalize playing at a higher level than expected. Still….I can’t see them pulling out more than 1 win in this series and playing the Bulls to a tight finish in a couple of other games. Bulls in 5 with a lot of bumps in bruises.

  • Riggs

    if roy hibbert can play like a true C than a tall PF then maybe

  • Red Star

    Rose doesn’t need motivation to light your A up!!! Prepare to be swept by Da Bulls!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Bulls in 4

  • http://twitter.com/4point0show Wes

    Anybody wanna put their money on the Pacers? I’m down to collect…

  • thawindy

    I can see his ponit. One dude to stop instead of four. Just mean bulls players have to step up.

  • Fat Lever

    Irrational Bulls fans response in 3,2,1….

  • slamfan4life

    8 taking out a 1? not gonna happen………this aint Golden State son!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    The Bulls Nation isn’t up yet. This page will quickly turn in a Granger-hatefest very soon.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Pacers for the upset. Who’s gonna stop Hibbert and Psycho T???…hahaha. Collison is gonna lock DRose down.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Collison is a good defensive player, but Hibbert is one of the worst pick and roll defenders in the L. He literally re-screens his own guards on occasion
    “If you make a concerted effort to stop Derrick Rose, you have a better chance of beating them”, have teams not been doing this all year? It has not worked out too well.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    It’s not like he declared that they were going to upset the Bulls, he just said that if given th choice he’d rather play the Bulls…really it makes perfect sense. If D-Rose has an off night, he really doesn’t have a ton of help. If One of the Celts main guys has an off night, there are plenty of other guys capable of picking up the slack. All you Bulls fans don’t need to get your panties in a bunch.

  • Zabba

    “They don’t have the best record in the East, but they won championships.” Uh, Earth to Danny Granger, this Celtics squad only won one championship, not championships, and that’s with an “s.”

  • rich

    they won 2 eastern confrence chamiionships and a lot of playoff series

  • Riggs

    its one more than what the bulls and pacers have combined in the past few years.

  • Zabba

    I knew you guys were going to say “Eastern Conference Championships,” a euphemism for “second place” in basketball talk, in my opinion.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Pacers will win a game, maybe two.

  • KobesBestFriend

    the last time a #8 took out a #1 there was a bogus MVP on the #1 seed that year too…so don’t think Indy can’t do it…Rose and his squad of misfits are fools gold

  • Vince5

    He needs to back up his words, so good luck winning against Chicago & if IND can upset the Bulls, I guess we will have to agree with Granger.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Bulls in 4. With Boozer and Noah, Hibbert will also foul out in maybe 2 of those games. lol

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com Buck Foston

    Da Bulls are still calfs in the play offs

  • Ses

    Easier said than done Granger, just look at the season series, 3 – 1 Bulls. The only person that can stop D-Rose is D-Rose. And I’m not sure if he’s been watching, Rose is the MVP but the rest of the team has been carrying their weight though out the season, hence the best record in he east and contending for best overall record. Boston is not the same team, why wont people admit it!

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    test, 1, 2.

  • Ses

    By the way the wins over the Pacer weren’t even close, 21, 19, 13. Hey Granger why don’t you guys get within 10 points, then start talking about beating them

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    comment isnt showing up, so i apologize in advance if it does 50 times.
    oh well.

  • http://www.slamoline.com Max

    He didn’t say they would beat the Bulls…

  • T-Money

    Bulls in 5.

  • Bulls2011champs

    This series could have some of the same feel as the celts bulls series 2 years ago. Only the pacers will win 1 game instead of 3, should be a good one but they don’t have a chance of winning it

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ Danny Granger

    I’m just trying to get the Bulls hyped up more and give them motivation to shut me and my team down…looks like I’ve succeeded in making it harder on myself and my team! I’m just lucky that we still got into the playoffs with such bad basketball….

  • http://slamoonline.com EZPass

    Let’s go Pacers. Bulls fans make me want them to lose.

  • Fab-5 Elite

    Pacers barely beat them in that one win they had against the Bulls in the regular season. They went to overtime that game & Derrick Rose was fouled out. Good luck in the playoffs Pacers cause ya gonna need it. Bulls in 4!

  • Inkubot

    Just play the series and then talk about which one is easier…

    Indy is a good team, but i think they can’t beat bulls, they are the best team right now in the NBA.

    word!

  • robb

    I don’t think Indiana can win one single game against the Bulls. They have a 37-44 record, they will be the only team with a losing record getting a playoff spot. Undeserved. They’re out in 4.

  • Marc

    Bulls in 5. They haven’t been able to stop DRose in the regular season, and they won’t be in the series either.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn, all these new bulls fans are annoying.
    Where the hell is Enigmatic when you need him?
    Hell, I’ll even settle for the rose peddler.

  • bull22

    @jtaylor, let these bulls fans or any fans express themselves and get off enigmatics jockstrap and be your own MAN……

  • JTaylor21

    ^Exhibit A

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    damn, how’d bulls fans get such a bad rep.
    oh…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    The Pacers have weapons dude. McRoberts, Jones, and Dunleavy are matchup problems for the Bulls. If they click, Pacers swept the Bulls. HAHAHA. So funny, Bulls fans crying, but what happened, DRose is MVP, but he ain’t Jordan. Nope buddy. He’s aint Kobe, LeBron, Durant, or Dwade. He’s aint even that good. But he…I mean the Bulls are having a great season.

  • HAMMER

    Tru Rose isn’t MJ, LBJ, Wade or Durant. But 2 say he “ain’t even that good”? C’mon man. Really? Give props where props is due. Otherwise it just comes across as hateration

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Celtics better not sleep on N.Y. either. I know Evveerryboody in the East can take it this year cause they’re all new squads except for Indiana…(hmmm)

  • HAMMER

    Bulls/Pacers series wont b a sweep either way. Wouldn’t b surprised if this went the full length. Gotta respect the Pacers and what they r capable of doin. Can they beat the Bulls? No question. Will they? Don’t c it happenin. Bulls win in 6 hard and contested games

  • http://www.mvp247.com Greg Tanner

    I can’t disagree with what he’s said.

    Although Chicago will handle Indiana pretty easily, I think.

  • Eddie

    Pacers in 6. Can’t wait till D-Rose starts bustin tears. Y’all remember. EDDIE predicted it. Pacers in 6!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    @HAMMER….DRose is having the same great season his boy Westbrook is having over in Oklahoma City, and their record is real nice too, and he is not getting the same hype for MVP. Im just saying. Players have good seasons. That doesn’t always equal MVP. Bulls are relevant again. Thats the only reason why. HATE, HATE, HATE.

  • bull22

    @hammer, yeah drose,tibbs and the team dont get enough credit. but i will agree that it can be a tough series because of the bad blood between the two teams. last time they met in playoffs kukocs third quarter classic performance saved their season in game 7 . awesome memories..

  • HAMMER

    ^ R u the same Eddie that said that MJ played for the Sonics his 1st 6 yrs n the L? Honest question

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    at least mars acknowledges he’s hating

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If you think that Westbrook and Rose are having the same season, then you are high.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Big up to DRose though for making ADIDAS and the Bulls relevant again. Seriously thank you. Now back to the facts/STATS. 7th in scoring, 10th in assists, 8th in minutes, 3rd in TOs, 3rd FG ATT, 4TH IN pts (he’s has almost 2000 pts already). Im not hating on these, you’re boy is putting it all together.

  • HAMMER

    Mars. Who or who doesn’t get MVP hype is one thing. Saying a player who took his team 2 the title game as freshman @ Memphis, was the #1 overall draft pick, won the ROY, is an All-Star and is now more than likely the MVP while leading his team to the best record in the East that features teams like the Heat and the Celtics not “that good”, is another

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    Allen, even if that’s the case you should be able to tell the difference. – And Danny Granger would be right if he said this 2 months ago.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    i ain’t about to do all this rose for MVP stuff again. mars is clearly on that ganja

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Westbrook: 13th in scoring (w/ Durant, high-volume shooter on the same team), 5th in assts, 4th in stls, 2nd in triple-doubles, 18TH IN MINUTES, 10th in FG atts, 11TH total points(he has about 1800)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    @Allenp & @airs…sometimes I’am actually..lol. @HAMMER. Look up Darius Washington, awesome freshman..also where is he now???

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLkX97Wc6VU Desert Storm

    The Eastern Conference, where sub .500 teams give opinions… Anyways, I really need to know where this All-Rose thing is coming out of. Every successful NBA team has a go-to guy with collective talent glued around the team’s x-factor. In the Bulls case it’s Rose, with Deng, Booz and Noah wrapped around him with solid numbers and defensive contribution. In the Celtics, it’s Rondo, with the aging big 3 around him. Lakers, Kobe and the 3 buildings. Miami? Could be more of Dwyane than Bron, but that squad might be an exception. Point of the matter is that this cover this best guy strategy applies to all team. The man question is, can you? But hey he’s entitled to doubt an up and coming team more than a previous champion. Rule # 1 in the NBA: Always put your effort on a new challenger, everybody hates something about them anyway. Honest opinion from a Bulls fan

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLkX97Wc6VU Desert Storm

    main question *

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Granger musta forgot that the Celts won it all one year, and made it to the finals another, with Thibs coaching the defense.
    The same Thibs whose same defense Granger is gonna absolutely despise by game 3.
    He also musta forgot the Bulls have decisively beaten the Celtics the last two times they played, and right now the Bulls are red-hot while the Celts are stumbling.
    The Pacers are playing much better under coach whats-his-name and I do believe most of them really don’t fear the Bulls, but they still cannot beat the Bulls in a seven-game series.
    Props to them for being the only division team to beat the Bulls, though. Even though it took overtime.
    Also, Derrick Rose will be motivated regardless, but if I’m Loul Deng, I’m definitely using this as motivation as well.
    When Deng is on point and motivated, maaaan, honestly the only 3’s I’d take over him are LeBron, Carmelo, Durant, Pierce, and Rudy Gay.
    Also let’s not forget, as intense as the Bulls have been defensively in the regular season…they’re about to kick it up a notch in the postseason.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    Westbrook doesn’t control the pace of a game. (he has one speed) he shoots a terrible %, he doesn’t get Durant the ball enough (he should not shoot 2 less shots then Durant, he should shoot 5-9 shots less, minimum) He is not that good of a passer he just has great scoring teammates, infact he doesn’t even really play “PG” he just handles the ball a lot, but he doesn’t actually run that position like he should, he’s a shooting guard. Which is why there is barely any drop off for OKC’s offense when he’s on the bench and Manor is in the game. Westbrook is superior to Rose in two places and two places only, on defense and rebounding. You can say whatever you want about stats, but to those that watch both players play often, and actually understand the position and game they are playing / or are supposed to be playing, the answers are plainly obvious.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    dude, matic. dont you know? everyone is 0-0 in the playoffs man. there are no favorites to win.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Oh and that Memphis team was loaded with freak athletes, Im sure the rest will agree with me on that. Douglas-Roberts, Scooter, Dorsey, Dozier Taggart, lil McGrady. You probably knew Rose was MVP then too huh.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    WOW.
    Did someone just compare Derrick Rose to Darius Washington?
    Word?
    LMAO!
    While we’re at it, let’s also compare LeBron James to Lenny Cooke. Both were the top player in their high school class!
    How about Dwight Howard to James Lang? Both were big men who came straight outta high school!

  • HAMMER

    Haha @ mars. U must have selective reading. Cuz all u saw that I typed was that he lead his team 2 the title game as a freshman. Haha…

  • Feez22

    LMAO @ Bulls fans. Seriously… All he said is that he would rather face y’all than the battle tested celtics. There is NOTHING wrong with that. I woul also rather play a team with boozer as their most experienced playoff player. Think about it… The celts have championship pedigree… They may not have a championship roster but their pedigree is there. The bulls haven’t been out of the first round since 07. Why would granger be more afraid to face an UNPROVEN PLAYOFF team vs. A proven playoff team no matter what the record? Some of you bulls fans need to fall back it’s his opinion and IMO it is a LEGIT one. Pull your goddamn skirts down seriously y’all are as sensitive as the 07-08 laker fans Jeez… Anything anyone says about the celts gets y’all into PMS mode.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    HANDLES THE BALL A LOT? SMH….You must be referring to DRose. To have another go-to-player does not make it easier to score, unless you’re a scorer. Regardless of what position you play, if you are 2nd in the league in triple-doubles, and you’re not one dimensional.

  • JTaylor21

    NBK, all those things you used to describe Westbrook could be said about Rose.
    Yes, I agree. Rose is the better player but you’re acting like he’s miles ahead of Russ.

  • Feez22

    BTW if it’s any consolation, the Heat,Knicks,Lakers & Magic would rather play the bulls vs. the celts as well. I wonder goddamn why…

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I wonder goddamn why too, Feez.
    Could it be cause they’re stumbling like a bunch of drunks?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Don’t hate on me for being a hater> lol Bulls fans are like the New York Yankees fans. FOS 24/7. And actually I compare DRose to Sebastian Telfair. LeBron is more of a Korleone Young.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    who called him one dimensional? And he does handle the ball a lot, he plays PG for that team, he just isn’t really sure how the position is supposed to be played, or that he shouldn’t shoot before pass. Its a common concern from EVERYONE who watched the Thunder, how will Westbrook and Durant coexist like this. Infact Westbrook has a higher usage rate then Durant. Now how in the world is that even defensible, you have the leading scorer in the league (2 years in a F*ck*ng row) and your PG has a higher usage rate? He makes more decisions than the preseason pick for MVP and people act like that’s ok? Westbrook has been playing PG for 3 years, in his life. He turns the ball over 15% of the time, i mean Westbrook is good but holy h*ll is he overrated if your putting him in this conversation. The Thunder are actually 2 points BETTER with Westbrook on the BENCH on offense. The Bulls conversly are 9 points BETTER with Rose ON the Court on offense. That should tell you all you need to know, considering they are “both” “point-guards”

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I am surprised that people are surprised that he said this. Boston are proven, Chicago are not. I think that is all it comes down to. They have known they will be playing the Bulls for a little while now, so it’s not as if he would say “We want to play Boston, we are worried about the Bulls”.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    OK, to keep it one hundred, if I take my Bulls goggles off, I can definitely see where Granger is coming from.
    The Celtics have shown and proven, the Bulls have not.
    But putting my goggles back on, who in their right minds would rather face a team that has gone 26-4 over their last 30 games than a team that has gone 17-13 in that same span?

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    “He just isn’t really sure how the position is supposed to be played”. That’s interesting, considering he has played that position in that league 3 years longer than you have. I agree with the premise of your argument, but its coming across as if you know better than Westbrook.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    I sure have been playing PG for longer then Westbrook. A lot longer. Not in the NBA but PG is PG, the responsibilities are the same, just much less complex. Which is why John Wall already runs the position better then Rose and Westbrook. (Not saying he’s a better player, but he is a PG in every sense of the word, and he learned it before he got to the league). So, yes I do feel like I know the position better then Westbrook, even if i’m not as good of a basketball player. (

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    The Celtics were only a .500 last season after the new year, so that MAY be irrelevant, I don’t know. If the Pacers were about to play Boston, maybe he would have said “Boston are aging, Rose is the MVP, I would rather play the Celtics”.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I hear you.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    fine, slam. i see how it is. my comments ain’t good enough for you to post. im taking my talents to Dime

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    NBK, the PG position is not defined by how it’s played

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    *yawns*

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    I’m not trying to discount Westbrook at all, but that’s the third time I’ve heard in as many days that Westbrook is not much worse then Rose. I even read an article that Mars pretty much echoed, so I had to get my piece out on the subject. Westbrook is still a top 10 talent in the league, and the day he does figure out the PG position, or that team gets another Guard who can split the responsibilities (I’m looking at you James Harden) then I think the Thunder will be the Mavericks of the West (meaning they will make the playoffs every year until 2020 with homecourt in the 1st round and title aspirations) just a bunch more talented and well rounded.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Damn, airs went there…lol.
    You gonna join up with say, Jahmai and Diesel over there and try and take over the boards with all pro-Bulls comments?
    Maybe win a few online beefs?
    Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven……….

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    The Point Guard position is actually defined by your responsibilities on the court. Or else there wouldn’t be positions at all. Name a great PG in NBA history who couldn’t pass? Name a PG who can’t dribble? I can name a bunch that can’t shoot, rebound, block shots. I can’t name a single one who can’t dribble and pass. Seems its pretty easily defined by how its played, or what skills it takes to play the position. Maybe at your local YMCA the position you play doesn’t matter, but we are talking about the NBA.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    One some real ish though, y’all arguing about the comments from a guy who is playing the worst basketball of any player off of Team USA last summer?
    A guy who’s team isn’t going to break .500 this season?
    A guy that has REGRESSED and whose numbers are down across the board. That dude? For real?!
    OK then. Don’t let me stop you. Carry on…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    OR, you could say, we are arguing about comments made by the best player on a play-off team?

  • Heals

    Match-up wise he is right (although Roy Hibbert seems to enjoy killing Beantown), just like how it could’ve been with NY-Mia, Phi-Bos or Por/Den-Dal…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Winning 37 games and making the Playoffs just means you’re the best of the bottom feeders, not an actual ‘Playoff’ team.
    There’s a difference.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    why don’t you bring up something else? lol, I don’t much care about what Granger said at all, they are gonna get stomped by Chicago, just like they would have been stomped by Boston, Miami, Orlando. don’t matter

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    hahha, hell yeah.
    and you all are invited to the launch party at TGI Fridays.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    BC, Indiana are a play-off team. That’s a fact. I do not have any rooting interest in them or Granger, but sub .500, bottom feeders, whatever, they ARE a play-off team.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Westbrook can dribble. And he can pass.
    He just can’t do it as well as Rose.
    Or run a team.
    That’s why Rose is much better.
    But, all of those things are correctable. Westbrook’s midrange is already lethal. All he needs to do is work on changing his pace up during games. Using different speeds to attack, understanding situation and realizing what his team needs at different times. Right now he’s constantly in full-speed attack mode. AGainst poor teams, that’s lethal for them. Against good teams, that can be lethal for you.
    And i don’t think Wall is a better point guard than Rose. I think he just passes more, but he’s not better, nor does he understand the position better. Wall has scorers who need the ball, Rose has players who need him to open up shots for them. Big difference.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    this is for my boy Enigmatic, Taylor (St. Pete)

    Of what value is PER, if it does not account for stats like “tipped passes”, “contested shots”, “successful defensive rotation”, or account for “forced shots at the end of shot clocks” or “passes the lead to free throws”? Basically, the PER crowd seem to say that normal statistics are inadequate, but their sabermetrics are based on those statistics, albeit adjusted for certain variables. If they are truly interested in capturing movement on the court with statistics in a systemic way, it seems that they are going to have to improve their metrics. Otherwise, they are simply creating cursory measurements under the guise of comprehensive statistical analysis.
    David Thorpe (12:04 PM)

    It’s a very good tool, but just a tool. A shovel is great for digging holes, not so much for gathering leaves. PER gives us a lot, but not everything.
    David Thorpe (12:04 PM)

    I think Hollinger would say the same. He’s the most modest smart guy you’ll meet.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    airs – LOL.
    Just don’t expect any appearances from me.
    I’m like Kevin Durant in this b*tch,
    I ride or die with SLAM like Durant rides or dies with the Thunder.
    I’ll make my formal announcement via Twitter later.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    OK, AllBall… Whatever. Fundamentally, you are correct, sir.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Basically, the PER crowd seem to say that normal statistics are inadequate, but their sabermetrics are based on those statistics, albeit adjusted for certain variables. If they are truly interested in capturing movement on the court with statistics in a systemic way, it seems that they are going to have to improve their metrics.
    What the f*ck?
    When did Revenge of the Nerds take over as the NBA’s fanbase?
    But I disagree with David Thorpe.
    Hollinger ain’t modest. I know he says PER shouldn’t be the end all, be all, but fact of the matter is he still thinks he’s smarter than all of us.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan
    You know that Chicago only won 4 more games than the Pacers Rose’s rookie year, right? And that was without a major coaching change.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    Allen, Rose was the exact same player when he had scorers around him, and its not even me that said Wall understands the position better, its John Calipari and …. ahhh I can’t remember, some people around draft time, I think David Thorpe, Jay Bilas, is where I first saw that opinion. Then after watching as many Wiz games as I could came to the same conclusion. however just about everyone said Rose in far better at creating his own shot (good shots) (and very true) and is a little better handling the ball (also true, especially in tight spaces)

  • Mr. Chill

    Oklahoma going to do some damage in the playoffs. You see how the Lakers berely escaped them last year. Time for a shift in the tides. Mr. Chill predicts a chilly slurpy for the Lakers and a nice cold breeze for the Thunder down under.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I don’t know where else to post this so this is as good a spot as any. Has Dr Jack been taking his medicine lately? On ESPN’s year-end awards he had the MVP going to Manu and the Defensive Player of the Year award going to Keith Bogans.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    Granderson think COY should go to Phil Jackson, even though that team regressed. lol wtf

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Only won 4 more games?
    Coming from a guy who’s made a big deal about the difference between 6 RPG’s and 8 RPG’s before, I’m sort of surprised you’d make that statement, Allen.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    In fairness to the Pacers though, this is the most wins they’ve had since ’06-’07. They still haven’t cracked 40 W’s in the past 5 years, but that’s just me nitpicking, I guess.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    If, by some basketball armageddon, the Pacers miraculously win this series, I have already put in for the trademark to make shirts with the name “Derrick Nowitski” on it. Don’t hate the hustle!

  • Mr. Chill

    @bull 22 – Mr. Chill recommends that no one on this site plays jock strap touchy with anyone. If that is anyone attentions, then Mr. Chill must issue a freeze warning.

  • k Dub

    Everybody on here tweaking lol the Bulls will win in 4 games!! the pacers suck who cares what danny granger says why is there even a debate about this weak series??

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    there’s actually nothing wrong with what he said…the celtics do have more experience. I wouldn’t agree though because quite frankly the celtics looked softer than charmin recently. but they looked that way last year to so.. also if you stop rose then you do stop the bulls. however that’s very hard to do. a good coach could probably figure out how to slow him down though

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    westbrook and rose are pretty similar though..hmm

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    isn’t that because the current bias is that to be a very good point guard you have to be “pass first”?
    That’s the bias. I’m not saying it wrong or right, I’m just saying that if you consider that as “true” then you naturally think players who pass more are better suited to the position. If you remove that bias, then what do you think?

  • JTaylor21

    Here we go again with Rose fans b*tching and moaning about other people’s opinion.
    Different toilet, same sh*t!

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Eboy – speaking of trademarks, shouldn’t your boy Pat Riley be at least partially rooting for the Lakers to win it all again?
    I’d imagine he’d love the royalty checks he’d receive for all those “THREE-PEAT” t-shirts the Lakers would sell.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan
    I could easily turn that around on you. You made it seem like those two rebounds were unimportant, but you’re acting like four games makes the Pacers bottom feeders, while the Bulls were scrappy winners.
    Lol.
    Anyway, I think neither team is that different. Pacers had to deal with a coach early in the year who alienated Hibbert and Psycho T, and couldn’t figure out how to use Collison or McRoberts. It seems like Jim O’Brien killed that team’s spirit, and once that was corrected, the team played much better.
    Now, you could argue that vinny del negro made things much worse in chicago, so it’s probably a wash. My point is that “bottom feeders” is a tad hyperbolic. They are sub .500. That’s not so strange in the East.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    I think PG is actually about getting your team in the flow of their offense, and setting the pace for the game. Rose is great at it now, but the “pace” for him hasn’t changed much since his rookie year, the personal around him did. I think there is an inherent flaw in this conversation, Rose is on a team specifically built around him, so his natural pace will make it seem like he is great at setting the tone. Wall IMO knows when to attack/slow the game down (change the pace) on an instinctual level better then Rose. The pass first thing is meh, it really doesn’t matter to me, I think Rose should shoot the most on his team, but he has always shot at 15 per game, so its not like much has changed since his rookie year.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    personnel*

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    JTaylor – LeBron’s overrated

  • JTaylor21

    I find it hysterical that a guy who has never played PG in the pros claims to know more about the position than a guy that has been playing PG for 3yrs on one of the top teams in the west and starred on a top-tier college program.
    Slamonline; where knowing more than the professionals happens.

  • Eddie

    HAMMER. Yes I am that EDDIE. Jordan was drafted by portland who traded him to the sonics. Seattle pissed off the illuminati who proceeded to destroy any legacy that Jordan left behind in Seattle.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    I think its funny that you have to complain to get attention.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    oh and here is a little list for you JTaylor, tell me something about it, Gregg Poppovich, Jim O’Brien, Flip Saunders, Lawrence Frank, Stan & Jeff Van Gundy, Hubie Brown, Bernie Bickerstaff, and I’m sure there are a ton more. a ton

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    you know what that list is?

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Practice doesn’t make perfect.
    Perfect practice makes perfect.
    Just because somebody has been doing something at the highest level doesn’t make them good at it, or as knowledgable as an outsider.
    For example, I’m pretty sure I know more about making quality decisions for the benefit of America than George Bush, but he’s the one who was president for eight years.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    imma give eddie the benefit of the doubt and say its the meth talking

  • JTaylor21

    sensitive much?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Easy.
    Unathletic coaches who’ve never played in the NBA.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    psh, WRONG allenp.
    i believe the answer is men with suits.

  • JTaylor21

    Tell us what it is, wise sensei.
    So, Westbrook is not good at it?

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    allen, bingo – JT – naw, like I said, I think its funny you have to complain to get attention.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Oh, I’m sorry Allen. How silly of me to ever think that 37 W’s isn’t a big deal compared to 41 W’s. I mean seriously, what’s 4 W’s? Now 8 rebounds compared to 6 rebounds, thats FAR more crucial when talking basketball.
    And yes, how dare I call Indiana “bottom feeders” when every other team since the ’08 Hawks and God knows how many teams before that in the East have all made the Playoffs with AT LEAST 40 W’s.
    How foolish of me.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Damnit, JTaylor didn’t take the bait…

  • JTaylor21

    NBK, explain to me how I’m complaining?
    All I said was “it’s highly doubtful you know more about the PG position than a guy who’s been playing it for the past 3 yrs at the highest level”. You then turned around and rattled off a bunch of coaches names like you know just as much about the game as guys that have studied and been around basketball for decades.
    You criticized Westbrook for not understanding the PG position but fail to realize that it’s the hardest position to master and it’s twice as hard for a player that wasn’t a true point coming out of college.

  • royallblue11

    danny granger is an ignorant dick, he has no idea what he says. end of story

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I agree with nbk. Fundamentally speaking, the PG position doesn’t change, regardless of level.
    I also *gasp* agree with JTaylor in that it is the most difficult position to grasp, especially if it isnt a position youve played FT before.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    “Slamonline; where knowing more than the professionals happens” – Complaint about the site.

    “Here we go again with Rose fans b*tching and moaning about other people’s opinion.
    Different toilet, same sh*t!” – Rose fans complaint

    “Damn, all these new bulls fans are annoying.
    Where the hell is Enigmatic when you need him?
    Hell, I’ll even settle for the rose peddler” – Rose fans complaint

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    want me to look further then just today? cuz its annoying and frequent.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well, it is sort of foolish. This is 2011. That was 2008. That’s not exactly a huge number of years in between teams with sub 40 wins making the playoffs.
    In 2003-2004, two teams with fewer than 40 wins, the Celtics and Knicks, made the playoffs. The 5 and 6 seed that year had 41 wins. That Celtics team would be the three seed the next year. In 2009, the Pistons made the playoffs with 39 wins.
    Seems like 40 is just an arbitrary number.
    Anyway, the Pacers should lose to the Bulls, but they are a scrappy team that needs a few more pieces to develop to be more respectable. For them to make the playoffs in the year where they had a midstream coaching changing is impressive.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Rose is NOT light years better than Westbrook. None-the-less he is better. I would be willing to say that in 3 years that Westbrook and Rose will be equals on the basketball court. All Westbrook has to do is improve his PG abilities, which includes tempo/pace, and finding players at the right time while initiating the offense, and then he is on par with Rose or better.

  • JTaylor21

    All right, I’m sorry I offended your oversensitive a**. Can we now move on to basketball?
    How bout a reply to my last post?

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    you right really sensitive, let me dry my eyes and look at what you said….what are you asking in your last post? Allen answered my question, the list is NBA head coaches who never played in the league. (you know to show you that playing in the NBA is great and all but it isn’t imperative to know the sport) – And I never said Westbrook wasn’t good, I said he’s not as good as Rose, and doesn’t completely understand how to run the PG position. Did I miss anything?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I personally anticipated two sub-40 W teams making the Playoffs this year because of what went down last summer. But 40 W’s is a little more than just an arbitrary number.
    Sub-40 W teams making the Playoffs is the exception, not the rule. I don’t care what year it is.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    LakeShow, Rose is only going to get better. Your talking like he’s stuck in neutral… has anyone ever seen a player improve as much in one year as rose did this past year? I don’t see anyway at this rate, how Westbrook ever catches him as a player. Barring injury

  • bull22

    @mr chill, trust me brother, there is plenty of that going on here, i think it was other day that one of them was called an idiot and one these daily bums got offended and like a little girl told @manu not to post anymore. its funny how a couple of these fools don’t realize how stupid they, but i wont say why…… lol

  • Eddie

    ANYBODY CAN BE BEAT> CANT STOP A NOSE BLEED. Eff ROSE. Illujmanati everywhere. anybody can be beat. remember that?

    EDDDIE

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Well agree to disagree NBK i really do think Westbrook will achieve amazing heights. Do You remember when they first drafted Westbrook at i think pick #5 and since then he has improved tremendously. He really had an awful shot and was not a good offensive player in general. Now he is still flawed but wow has he improved. Don’t you think Westbrook is more versitile, there-for has a huge upside to do multiple things on the floor and maybe be an overall better player than Rose down the road(maybe lol)?

  • JTaylor21

    Okay, so let me get this straight. You think your basketball knowledge is comparable to NBA head coaches that have studied and been around the game for decades.
    Is that what I’m hearing?

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    bull22 you’ve been here everyday for the last 2 weeks, or just bout everyday, so you would be a daily bum now, And the manu thing, was that manu guy went OFF about how matic was an idiot, but didn’t actually read anything that was written. so he said if you aint gonna read the comments then don’t respond to them, just in a more rude typa way.

  • bull22

    @manu, if you are reading this.. keeping writing man, you can’t let these punks run you out of here, any opinion is welcome brother!
    people don’t need to respond but they sure as heck can read……..

  • bull22

    here you go NBK SHADUP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • bull22

    hahahahhahhahhahahhahahahhahhahahhhahahaha you can cry now my little man…… waaaaaaaa

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    @bull22, oh you Oh you mean the time I quoted a John Hollinger article, and some dude posting as “Manu” called me an idiot cause he disagreed with what I had clearly quoted as Hollinger and not me?
    And then I quoted his calling me an idiot, thus not actually calling him an idiot?
    And then I told him never to post again cause only a dumba** wouldn’t be able to put two and two together, considering ALL of my previous posts regarding Hollinger are of the “f*ck Hollinger” variety?
    Guess that makes me the little girl, then.
    Least this little girl doesn’t take subliminal shots at people.
    F*ck bull22.
    See? No subliminals.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    No, I’m saying you don’t have to play in the NBA to know the sport, or the positions in it. I never said I knew anywhere close to the amount of basketball as those guys….but Russel Westbrook, at the PG position, yeah I think I understand it better then he does. But i’ve been playing the position for 20 years, he has been playing it for 3 and a half. (When COllison got hurt at UCLA Westbrook had to run the point). So I am very confident in my knowledge of how that position should be run and what traits to improve upon or that matter for the position. And as a PG for my entire life I had to learn what every position on the court is supposed to be doing, positioning wise, defensive responsibility wise (depends on the system actually). I am not as “intouch” with those positions, like the little things, how to position myself to best use an off-the-ball screen that sort of thing.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    Danny Granger needs to shut up and start planning his vacation

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    bull22 i know this is useless because your 92% Troll (no offense, just facts) but you know everytime when you say back to basketball well how bout that instead of just laughing on your keyboard all the time while telling people to “Shatdup”?<

  • bull22

    @enigmatic no subliminals, you knew it was meant for you because i was specific as to who it was… i knew you had good memory retention.. i guess cursing makes you feel good, don’t it… lol, you guys are a work of art… hahahahaha anyways go back to your little groups afternoon jockstrap holding session.. hahahahahahahha peace out..

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    bull’s gotten his ADHD attention for the day lets leave him alone now..

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow, I think Westbrook would be a better SG then Rose. As I think that’s his more natural position, and if he could shoot consistently, would be more effective at. Because of his speed and length, he can guard the 2, while being a huge unguardable mismatch on the other end because of his speed and quickness. I just can’t see him developing the kind of game that makes a truly great PG….which is what I think Rose is going to be. but I respect where your comin from.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Jtaylor, off topic, what was that YouTube channel that shows classic games? I am looking through Wiltatkansas now, but I want to watch others too.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    LOL I ain’t never been called a “work of art” before.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think to play the point guard position really well you have to develop a feel for teh game and your team that goes beyond skill development.
    It’s why it’s so hard to become an offensively dominant big man late in life. Sure, you can get a jump shot, or even a jump hook, but it’s all the little nuances of how to move and react that make players really great.
    If Westbrook and Rose continue to develop at the same pace, Westbrook would never catch Rose because would always have a built in headstart from playing the position longer.
    However, if Westbrook jumps ahead by developing his mental game faster, with his already great defense, he could surpass Rose.
    Basically, Rose and Westbrook have equal raw talent. Rose has a head start on developing it, and he’s still working super hard to get even better. Westbrook is working hard too, but he has a head start to overcome.

  • bull22

    @lakeshow, not offended in the slightest.. just making sure other users know not to be intimidated by any of you clowns… especially one like you who apparently likes telling others when to put their drawers on….. hahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahha

  • JTaylor21

    AllBall, try tjhunt76.
    NBK maybe you’re right but for someone that claims to have played the position for 20 yrs to criticize a player that never played PG in college and just started playing point in the pros makes no sense at all. Of course Rose is the better PG because he had the benefit of playing the position longer, so can we at least wait until Westbrook’s 6th or 7th season before label his attempt to master the position a failure?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Why would somebody be intimidated about sharing their opinion?
    It’s a random internet board. Nobody can stop you from posting. Anybody who would be intimidated about posting has some confidence issues.
    But, I do wish people would post more things of substance instead of random rants and taunts. I don’t care if people take crazy positions as long as they do a good job of backing them up. But, again, I don’t have any control over who posts, and I’m pretty sure people can write what they please for the most part.

  • http://slamoonline.com zoom

    I agree with NBK regarding Wall. I honestly feel that in two seasons, barring injury and after adding strength, John Wall will the the best pg in the league. If he works on every aspect of his game the way Rose has done, he will be hands down the best pg. His athleticism is dramatically underrated due to his injuries. It’s pretty obvious he hasn’t fully recovered all season. There’s no guard in the league faster than him. Only Rose can match him in this department. Anyone who has been watching this kid since at least his senior year in hs will agree. Wall is going to be scary in the years to come.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yeah Rose has a head start, it will be a blast to watch them both improve from here on out. I feel that from a physical stand point Westbrook could someday out do what Rose can overall. Like how Lebron is a more complete player than Kobe, but i still think Kobe is better. Same thing here. Both amazing, love em both, and i’ll stick to saying Westbrook will someday be as good or better and we’ll check back in a couple years lol(i could very well be wrong) Either way fun times in the league for us PG aficionados!! I like John Wall in the debate in a few years also.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    JTaylor the only reason I brought up the position and how Rose is superior is because Mars I believe it was, kept putting up raw stats to show that Rose is not much better or better then Westbrook. That’s the only reason I even started talking about Westbrook not knowing the position. When its all said and done, no matter what position Westbrook plays I’m positive he will know more about the game then me, but right now, as a person older than him, whose been playing/studying the sport and position a lot longer I’m very comfortable saying I know more about it then he does. And I am not at all labeling anything he does as a failure come on, I said he’s got top 10 talent, and is already a very good player. Rose is on pace to be one of the greatest PG’s ever, Westbrook is still trying to figure out the position, which is fine.

  • http://dude Chukaz

    Danny Granger doesn’t watch basketball. Maybe the bulls only go as far as Rose can take em, but the Celtics went from having 4 of those guys to none. Its like all of the Celtic’s big 3 were aging well and Rondo was getting better everyday, then all of a sudden the Celtics’ big 3 couldn’t stop or score on anybody and Rondo regressed to being the weakest link on his team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    how many of ya’ll are on twitter?

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    TrueHoop has Dwight winning MVP. — click the name

  • JTaylor21

    What’s a twitter? Sounds like a bird.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Should I take a page out of Eboy’s book and apologize to everyone I’ve ever cyber bullied?
    Whatever.
    Anyways, Wall’s gonne be nice as hell. I think him and Rose will be battling it out for the top PG spot for years to come.
    Nbk, I’m on there but not as often as I’d like cause it’s blocked here at work.
    I basically just get to go on there on the weekends, and when I get home from work…which is like 10 PM and eastern time.
    I mostly enjoy reading BC take on crazed Heat fans on there though, LOL

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Also do we know who is truly the FASTEST? I mean i have no idea who is between Wall,Rose,Westbrook. Who else is in the discussion, anyone?

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    I was just asking because its the quickest way to find info other then a search engine, so if people are wondering where to find the best NBA articles and stuff, you should just get a twitter and follow a bunch of journalists.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Whoa whoa whoa…. NBK just read that page. Kobe 2nd team NBA… List is bunk IMO. I mean I love Wade but common.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    Darren Collison is the fastest player in the league IMO

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    Am now following BC on twitter, and i’m already laughin, “I wonder if Dr. Jack Ramsay has been spending too much time with Mr. Jack Daniels? Manu for MVP?!” – via twitter

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    Well honestly one or the other (Kobe or Wade) has to be second team. And Wade has been better in every conceivable way statistically, advanced statistically, and the Heat have more wins.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    One time BC said something about how someone besides Haslem’s mom should be proud of him, and this crazy Heat fan was like “you f*ckin’ asshole! You’re making fun of Haslem’s dead mom!”
    Then chaos ensued
    LMAO
    No disrespect to the dead, but come on now, only Heat fans know Haslem’s mom passed.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    lmao, right.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Devin Harris is still mighty fast. LeBron is stupid fast. Foot race and I’m still going with Speedy Claxton. It’s a rule.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Really wow i wouldn’t have thought Darren was but i have see him play twice ever lol. few highlights here and there. Is Barbosa up there at all do you think? dude is fast!

  • HAMMER

    Telfair was pretty fast n his portland days. Don’t know if he still is. Mayb t-wolve fans can answer that. Is he still w/t-wolves? I have no idea

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    I think Barbosa was up there a couple years ago with TJ Ford. But time is like that d*ckhead boss who lets you remember what you made before the economy took a dump, but won’t actually pay you your money. Barbosa wants to be the fastest, still thinks he’s faster then everyone, even remembers it, but its been a couple years since the “beep beep” barbosa that made phoenix fans stupid happy. Collison’s parents were both sprinters or something like that, his mom even in the olympics if i’m not mistaken. he got that speed gene

  • ClydeSays

    Granger is right in theory. But Rose isn’t exactly easy to stop.

    As far as the speediest, Rondo is right up there…

  • http://slamoonline.com zoom

    I’m gonna say a healthy Wall, but Monta Ellis is no slouch either. In no order I’d say Rose, Lebron, Westbrook. I’m most impressed by Bron out of all of them tho.

  • MLK4Life

    I’d argue that it’s easier to stop the Celtics. Stop Rondo and the Celtics go nowhere. It’s a lot easier to stop Rondo because he can’t shoot. With the way they’ve been playing, Rondo has been stopping himself. It seems like their toughness is gone with Perkins being in Oklahoma City.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I loved Barbosa back in the 6th man of the year award days. Did he ever get that award he should have, he was sick off the bench. What about Nate Robb? Don’t you think he’s gotta be up there in the speedy mofo’s category?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Whoa.
    The people who comment on Yahoo Sports have gotta be the dumbest commenters ever.
    One cat was on there trying to convince everyone Brandon Jennings is far and away better than Chris Paul.
    LMAO

  • http://slamonline.com SpaceJam

    im sure its all u lakers, celtics, knicks, and heat fans that are complaining about bulls fans. u p*ssys are hypocrites. but some of the NEW bulls fans kinda annoy me too……anyone who followed the bulls when Eddy Curry was “the guy” is a true Bulls fan.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Collison really has to shine this series and at least sort of keep up with Rose. The Pacers need that rookie-season 20 and 10 Darren Collison back, and they need the cold-blooded Danny Granger who doesn’t shoot 40% from the field, and they definitely need the Roy Hibbert who rebounds and can create his own shot.
    I think the Pacers will surprise some folks… Or they’ll get blown out. Either way they’ve got a pretty bright future.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    I tried to get into a few different websites commenting games, Dimes, Yahoo, ESPN, realgm, but none was as much of a logical community as Slam. Well I mean there are obviously still the illogical haters, overbiased sooper fans, trolls, and the like but there are more “regulars” here, who respect and consider opinions and are open to being wrong. That last thing, open to being wrong, was my big issue with the people here when I first started. But I was a hypocrit trying to start a bunch of drama just to pass the time rather then being completely logical and rational. So as i’ve noticed people willing to re-examine their own opinion i’ve come to only comment here.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Oh, and Granger is right.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Man, I’ll say this again but the Hornets had a great f*cking draft in ’09–getting both Marcus Thornton AND Collison. How did they manage to get rid of both with pretty much nothing in return besides Carl Landry?

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    I’m gonna say …wall, westbrook,monta/devin harris,rose,devin harris maybe. idk though. i could be wrong

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    and of course bron and d.wade there’s a reason they used to call wade flash back in 06.
    teddy brings up a good point..do the hornets hate chris paul? it’s not like the NO is a terrible place to be like cleaveland or detroit. why dont they get him some more help?

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    also last year darren collison was lightning quick…LIGHTNING

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/27304/the-truehoop-networks-award-picks nbk

    The first problem in NO is that David West is their second best player, and they like it that way. When your trying to build around 2 guys, and 1 of them is completely one dimensional (a scorer from the 4, not really good at anything else) then your handicapping your team. Plus its New Orleans, no free agent wants to play in New Orleans.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I just read Chris Paul might be open to playing in Charlotte for MJ.
    Intriguing…

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Regardless of who wins tonight in MSG, it’s a shame we won’t get to watch the Bulls vs. Knicks with both squads at full strength this season.
    Unless the Knicks make it to the Eastern Confrence fi..BWAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!
    Nevermind…

  • rich

    chris wont go to charlotte if you bound and gagged him, he is driven by winning he gets up at 430 every morning to train. guys like that dont sign with bad teams just because its close to home and the guy who he signed a shoe deal with is there. he will go to a contender even if it meant a five dollar salary

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Damn that is a damning statement by Teddy. That is sad.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Why do no free agents want to play in new orleans? Who says that?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Rich knows chris paul? What’s he like for breakfast?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Chris Paul likes money and winning. In that order.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I’m inclined to agree with rich though.
    Just thought it was an interesting rumor.
    But when do good players want to go to bad teams?
    Except for Amare in New York, but the money was too damn good to turn down.
    It’s kind of like when Bulls fans were bummed because Tim Duncan, Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady didn’t sign with Chicago in 2000.
    Really? They didn’t want to sign with a team that went 17-65 the year before?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    I say that, they don’t sell tickets, they are an unstable franchise (what city in 5 years?) the market blows, and basketball is second fiddle to football, in a poverty heavy state. Nobody, big name wise, wants to play in New Orleans, no offense. But it’s true, they’re only selling point is Chris Paul and he has a 2 year timestamp, and a pirate leg

  • paul

    Rondo is the same for the Cs. Stop him and you beat the Celtics.

  • Byebye

    The difference is the bulls play at a slow pace and the thunder don’t give me russ all day and night

  • rich

    this offseason thats what he did to rehab his knee they followed him around with a camera crew. money is a valid point allenp but there is a lot of money to be made for a man of average height to win big. there are so many more enticing choices than new orleans who doesnt even appreciate the team when the building is always empty despite having one of the best players in it every night

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well I feel.compelled.to defend my city. The hornets sold tickets when they won games. Now they will always be second to the saints and the city is poor. Can’t argue those facts. But the burners moved from charlotte to neworleans for.some reason, right? Katrina changed.things but as the saints have.shown if you win games the people here will find a way to biy your tickets. Seriously is New Orleans worse than detroit?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    No Detroit is bottom of the heap. But man it would be hard for someone to feel comfortable owning a team in New Orleans, any city where a team has failed in the past, coupled with the economic situation tells me they won’t be there long. If I could change things I would, plus Detroit has Chrysler and all their optimistic commercials

  • rich

    being better than detroit at anything doesnt say much that city just got kicked in the groin no offense to anyone who lives there

  • JTaylor21

    I much rather own a basketball team in the D than NO but that’s just me.

  • Byebye

    A franchise in new Orleans will never will
    Just like Charlotte Indiana toronto Cleveland the small markets won’t win
    Unless u get a Tim Duncan in the draft like the spurs

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Toronto is the fifth most populated city on North America after Mexico City, New York City, LA and Chicago.
    What small market?

  • jufu

    deng, boozer, korver, noah…equals no…help???

  • C-Mac

    Does Rose remind anyone else of a much better Steve Francis? With the hops and the ball handling? Rose obviously has a much better outside shot and more drive to win though.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Chris Paul values money over winning?!?! Do you ever watch CP interviews?! Have you not asked him yourself? The guy will get paid, best believe winning is his top priority.
    Paul did not say he wanted to play Charlotte, he had to use three Tweets just to say that the media were trying to make something out of nothing.

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    215 comments on an article about something a Pacers player said. Russ would be rolling in his grave!

  • http://slamonline.com big_ticket

    yes,i still hate slam on not putting the celts in the last ish,,.probably thats the last ish i’ll recieve,hopefully its the heat

  • BIBBLUE

    all you bulls fans need to take a seat and just chill the f down. did Danny say that they would upset the bulls? no. the fact is that this bulls team is extremely green when it comes to the playoffs, and the green celts have a ton of experience. that’s why Chicago will lose when they match up against them.

  • Your_Balls

    If I were Granger I would pick Bulls to face rather the celtics… Im not hatin Im a D’rose fan.

  • $moove

    Danny Granger mvp,lol

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    All players care about getting paid first then winning. If you believe differently you are only fooling yourself.

  • UND EINE !

    ha ha . First your team has to average more points than the opposition if you want to talk kack like dat Grange. :-)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    true story @Allenp. Small team markets suck. Except OKC AND Portland. Babylon luring in all dem money hungry feed dem bloodsuckas. NETS, KNICKS, HEAT, CELTICS, ALL A DEM’ TEAMS FUSS UP THE LEAGUE. Toronto and Indiana, Milwaukee & Clevland especially feel them suffering, spending millions pon bench players, and we a feed dem ego. Burn, burn all a dem 6th man jerseys. Which one of ya’ll own a J.J Hickson, or a John Salmon swingman, shame on you poopagayza.

  • chi city

    I’m sorry. I didn’t know boston needed a starting lineup with the majority of them allstars to win a championship. And to even get to the finals.

  • beno

    yea easy to say. i know everybod says rose but they also forget other players like deng,boozer etc so ma man wait till playoffs come cos its a hole nu game

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