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Monday, April 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  44 responses

Heat Glad Kendrick Perkins Isn’t in Boston Anymore


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

It’s a familiar refrain from opponents whenever they’re asked about the new-look Boston Celtics. Everyone seems to say the same thing: “They’re different.”

Essentially, what they mean, but are too respectful and weary of Boston to say it just yet, is that the Celtics minus Kendrick Perkins are a weaker team. It’s a point Chris Bosh, of all people, made after Miami got over the hump yesterday and finally beat Boston this season.

The win pushed the Heat a game ahead of the C’s for the 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference — giving them confidence should they meet in the Playoffs, and more importantly, home court advantage.

From the Herald:

After whacking the Celtics , 100-77, yesterday afternoon, the Heat hit them again. Speaking of the difference in the Celts since their big trade, Chris Bosh said things were essentially the same in what they try to do. Then he added, “It’s just a difference in players. Kendrick (Perkins) brought a certain element to that team, and it’s not there anymore.” Bosh then said people should remember last season and not overlook the Celts, but he’d already made his point. So did the Heat yesterday.

Three days before the end of the regular season, the 1 in Miami’s 1-3 mark against the Celts was looking big to the locals. “This is our first time beating them as a team,” said Dwyane Wade after another rocky shooting day against the C’s (4-for-12 while his team was hitting 50.7 percent). “We got over that hump today. You need to see that you can perform against a team.”

In the grand scheme of things, it’s just one game, but a meaningful one with the postseason looming.

In the Playoffs, should Boston’s foes continue to feel the same way Bosh does now, GM Danny Ainge might want to think about going into hiding for a while.

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  • arthur

    Shaq isn’t back yet though, so of course Boston’s front line is weaker. Whether he can come back is a different matter.

  • marc

    i got a question. Did perkins play in the games the Celtics had beaten the heat? i can’t remember

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Umm yeah, Shaquille missing 2 months, then injuring his calf 5 mins into his return shouldn’t install confidence in C’s fans. That and Doc hardly playing Murphy and Jermaine all but done this season: weaker, not all intimidating frontcourt.

  • Sean

    Marc he missed the first two but played in the third game.

  • jimmythesaint67

    Bosh should just remain mute for the rest of his career, after donating his salary to charity ..
    C’s didn’t have Perk this season Vs Heat. Murphy and J O’Neal are the least productive stiffs in the League, and to NOT sign Leon Powe for pocket money was idiotic .. Ainge bettah stahrt looking for that hidey hole

  • Yesse

    If Shaq won’t be back in the playoffs and not 100% it doesn’t look good for Boston.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    I don’t think the lack of Perkins is (or was yesterday) the problem. Sure, he was a tough cover and brought an intensity that when combined with KG, made Boston intimidating. But, to me, Rondo is looking uninterested and that’s the issue. Is he angry that Perk was traded? Probably. But he should be professional and just continue to play the way he’s capable.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Ainge traded Hulk, and waived goodbye to multiple championships.

  • karma

    I said it before and I’ll say it again – if you’re resting your front line hopes on SHAQ of all people, who should have retired about 3 years ago – you are going to be sorely disappointed.

    I don’t care how goofy the guy is, his physical shape and condition is not meant to last in the NBA for 18 years on a productive scale. He’ll give the Celtics a game or two and injure himself again…that was a really bad trade by ainge. I hated it then, and I hate it now.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Bet Doc is looking forward to the end of this Nba season. His team can now be exploited at the 5 by Orlando and LA (yeah, if they even make it that far) at the 1 by Chicago and will have real problems against the seemingly focused Miami triade. Bill Simmons probably will really light himself on fire this postseason.
    Must-see TV.

  • T-Money

    Shaq hurt himself jogging with no contact and you guys expect him to be at 100% in a week?

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    just me or when the C’s first changed their rotation in the 1st quarter (when they were down by like 2) every single starter on the bench just looked defeated….boy that C’s bench looks weak right about now. I remember you used to fear the C’s bench just as much as you did their starters….them boys just look weak right now

  • K.a.

    Everybodys trynna get in celts head

  • dsleepy

    celtics are done. i’m a fan of the team, but it’s clear that they are faltering. so much of what they were able to do was based on the philosophy of the team. doc always preached “play for each other! don’t try to play hero-ball!” team chemistry is a flat out mess, post-trade. on paper, the trade was good. but sometimes, chemistry > talent on paper. damn you ainge.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @K.a.: agreed. lol

  • Fat Lever

    WTF happened to Jermaine? Wow man, I’m shocked at the drop off in productivity. Have they tested him for PED’s?

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    No body is more scared of Boston with Green than Perk.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com Buck Foston

    The Celtics have been washed up before the trade. They lost their mojo to the hands of the Lakers in game 7 of last years finals and now lost their goon.

  • Buck Foston

    The Lakers would should have got all in one with this! Kendrick Perkins is an albatross in pigeon’s clothing, and I miss Jordan Farmar’s ears out here in LA. Kobe Bryant.

  • Jer dawg

    Perkins brings toughness, whether real or not, to the Celtics. Heck, after yesterday one could say he brought toughness to the Thunder. Everyone is talking numbers and how he doesn’t produce enough. Well, he’s an “intangible” player that brings more confidence to a team. Others play fearless knowing Perkins’ enforcer attitude is going to be the first one there when it goes down. Opposing people scoff at his production, but look at Celtics now and Thunder now. Definite difference. Other teammates go hard knowing he’s there. I never liked Perkins, but even I know he makes a difference psychologically for others around him. Garnett’s not so tough anymore. Perk is the big domerman and KG is the chihuahua woofing the loudest knowing the doberman’s got its back.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Actually beside the toughness, perkins is the best rotating bigin the league. He gives help, sprints.to recover and doesn’t cheat his team. Garnett is now being askedbto be the teams main low post scorer and sole low post defender while guarding the other teams best big man. He ain’t afraid h is 35 and tired. Boston had the best defensive tandembin the league with Perkins and that was the foundation for everything they did. Without perkins locking people up there is more pressure on the offnse to perform and that means more pressure on rondo.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    is rondo playing injured?

  • JoeMaMa

    Of course Perkins was good for the Cs, but you have to look at this in terms of business. Perkins and the Celtics had discussed an extension, and the two sides were far enough apart that he wouldn’t have been extended in the offseason. So Ainge was looking at this situation, thinking about getting a return on Perkins’ value. Green has an extra year, and is also a young, athletic wing/post. Ainge liked Green from the beginning, as he had originally drafted him, before getting Allen in a blockbuster. Ainge also likes to deal, a trait exemplified in the late 80s, when he said that he thought the Celtics should’ve traded McHale and Parish (maybe even Bird? Can’t remember) for young talent. Ainge is constantly looking to improve his club, and made this trade. It hasn’t turned out well for the Cs right now, because Shaq is injured. But if he can come back healthy, he’ll provide a mean streak, rebounding, and interior D. That was Ainge’s plan: return on investment, good young player acquisition, big men willing to step into Perkins’ place this season.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Joe
    I thought this was Green’s contract year. Everything I’ve seen said he was coming off his rookie contract this year. Just like Durant would have been if he hadn’t been extended.

  • JoeMaMa

    @Allen: I think Green can be extended by one year, and I’ve also heard that the Celtics are going to be able to sign Green. Also, I’m pretty sure that Perkins’ injury history (major surgery on shoulder, knee) played a part. Again, I think Ainge hurt his team’s chances of getting the ‘chip this year. I’m merely saying that there was a method to his madness that hasn’t really been explored on this site.

  • OvaChiken in G Major

    Shaq is outy man. I’m not even considering him. The only top 4 team in the east that probably can’t beat Boston in a 7 game series is maybe Orlando right now. Boston are lookin broke & weak as hell unless they can prove otherwise. If Miami get N.Y. in the first round it’l be a good series for a game or 2. But if N.Y. get Boston first round …. UPSET TIME !!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk

    Its not that the Celtics couldn’t sign Perkins, bird rights would have allowed him to be signed. But the thinking was, is he worth the 10 million he’ll demand in the open market, plus the 10 million you would be paying in luxury tax. Green as i’ve heard as well, is expiring, but he’s restricted, and the Celtics would be more willing to go into the Luxury tax for him then Perkins. ANd the reason stems as far as, they drafted him, they liked him then, and they still like him now. And that’s all I’ve heard on that situation.

  • Champs

    Ainge should have kept perk and used him in a sign and trade after. gave up on this year

  • Bojangles

    @allen p and joe The C’s can offer green a qualifying offer of around 5.8 mill. This will get him on contract for one season and then he will be a free agent next year.

  • http://www.stateoftheceltics.com Ryan

    Since the Big Three got together, the Celtics have talked about how important chemistry is and you could see how much everyone enjoyed playing together every time they took the court. When you change half of your team midway through the season, including your starting center that was the defensive rock in the post and personified toughness, that chemistry disappears and all you’re left with is a bunch of guys trying to win games themselves. Perk’s numbers aren’t what’s killing the C’s right now. It’s that they’ve lost the “team” aspect that they preached for three years.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bojangles
    He doesn’t have to take the qualifying offer, if I understand it correctly. Basically, Green wants a big payday now.
    I don’t understand sacrificing a chance at the next two championships to get Jeff Green when he’s going to want to get paid just like Perkins.
    As for the luxury tax, well that can’t be avoided. They have four players already making serious money. You don’t see the Lakers sweating the luxury tax during the last few years of Kobe’s effectiveness, do you?

  • Metrobus

    Hell yeah!!! Things change pretty fast don’t they?!?!?! Early in the season this bunch of ballpark old timers were yapping their mouths, showing-off and mocking Lebron and the Heat. Today, there is a different story, the Chihuahua and Doberman comparison was on point. With Perkins gone, they are nothing but a bunch of OLD f@rts with no one watching their backs while picking on young dudes who were respecting the elder for what they are, but not anymore. Maybe they have one more run in them, but if pushed to a game 7, its bye-bye time for them and maybe retirement, anymore of this would be sad to say the least!!

  • All Day

    @ Jer dawg: Co-sign!!! I noticed KG has been woofing a lot less since the Perkins trade…LOL! Rondo is struggling, which is another reason for Boston’s slump. Don’t count of Shaq for the playoffs. Father Time has finally caught up with Shaq and J-O’Neal. Boston’s window has officially closed!

  • bull22

    boston is still eastern conference defending champ.. so any opponent wants to declare themselves the victor better have 4 wins in a playoff series. this is definitely not a team the KNICKS want to see…..

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    a couple things… first of all even though they didn’t have perkins the first 2 times they beat the heat…they did have a big long front line. they didnt rebound especially well..but they took up space and it was hard to get into the lane. plus perkins as we’ve said before is an intangibles guy…even though he wasn’t on the court he was still on their team. they got confidence from that. and remember it’s not just perkins they traded…they got rid of erdin,nate robinson, and some other people too.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    @ JoeMaMa, yes it’s a business which objective is to win a championship each year and with Hulk we had the opportunity 2 win the O’Brien THIS year! Now we have 2 rely on Shaq!? Really?
    Like T.B.R.K. said, I watched the game yesterday and you could tell by the look in Boston players eyes that they were defeated, doubtful.
    Loosing Hulk, we’ve lost our mojo, our swagger and there’s no more “this 5 has never lost a player series” bullsh*t…
    Reminds me of when the Pistons traded Billups 4 Ivy, counting on Stuckey development, a “good” basketball trade on paper and “business” wise, but we all know how that ended…
    But I’ve not given up on the C’s yet, not until we are beaten in a 7 game series starting next friday.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Lot of people are putting too much value into Perk’s “toughness” and not enough into his ability to play great defense. He might not get the blocks that Bynum and Dwight provide but ability to rotate and guard pick-and-rolls is there with the league’s best.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    @The Fresh Prince of Nsam completely agree fam, very similar situations appear to be beginning to unfold…If the C’s aren’t able to get it done Doc is going to step down in all likelihood, and I won’t be surprised if Ainge doesn’t bulldoze the entire squad a la Dumars.

  • floe

    thunder vs heat finals. bookit.

  • ai come back

    i heard a conspiracy theory from my friend that the celtics traded perkins cuz they knew perkins could help the thunder handle the lakers and if the thunder or spurs went to the finals the cletics thought they could take them easily instead of the lakers idk it was a theory he heard and 120 104 thunder beat lakers doesnt make the theory real but it sure proves that the thunder can take the lakers now

  • Lloyd

    When the trade happened, I thought Ainge was playing the Thunder because Perk was still out and then news came that he had to sit out a couple of more weeks than was expected at first. I thought his injuries were more severe than was being advertised, but Ainge downplayed it so that he could ship Perk to a team for some value before it got out that he was mad hurt. Turns out that that wasn’t the case and the C’s just made a trade that will cost them a championship and, with the big 3 set to leave soon, championships for years to come.

  • ab40

    C’s will do fine come playoff time. The threat they have with shaq on the court is scary. I’ll tell you right now they’re gonna destroy the knicks maybe even sweep em. Then they’ll face MIA in the second round and beat orlando again to go to the nba finals where they’ll face tha lakers if they make it past the second round or the spurs.

  • http://Boom Aaron Laucke

    C’s got no hope

  • Naiym1

    ab40, I like Beantown alot. And earlier this season; I definitely had them taking it all the way. But you my friend, have the faith of an Avocado seed…. They will beat the Knicks, but if they play this uninspired ball ( as they’ve been playing)….not a chance. Hope Ainge has a bullet proof vest to walk around BOS in.

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