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Friday, April 15th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  133 responses

Josh Smith Motivated By Jameer Nelson’s Boast


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

The NBA Playoffs haven’t been this highly anticipated in many, many years — maybe ever, in fact — but there’s one series that almost no one is excited to watch: Orlando Magic vs Atlanta Hawks. Sorry, Lang.

But, hey, Josh Smith is mad at Jameer Nelson! Sort of! Get pumped, everyone!

Smith apparently took exception to Nelson being a little too confident about Orlando’s chances against Atlanta, and cites the Hawks’ regular season success versus the Magic as reason not to overlook his squad.

The AJC reports:

“A lot of their players are already claiming they are already going to make the second round, so that gives us a little added motivation, too,” Smith said. “If that doesn’t get you geared up, I don’t know what does.” After the Bulls defeated Orlando 102-99 on Sunday, Chicago guard Derrick Rose was being interviewed live on ABC when Nelson sought him out. He leaned close to Rose and appeared to say: “Catch you in the second round.”

The winner of the Hawks-Magic series will face the Chicago-Indiana winner. The Magic swept the Hawks by an NBA-record margin of 101 points last season, so it’s not as if they don’t have reason for confidence. The Hawks counter that they won three of four regular-season meetings, including the past three. Smith said he thinks that should temper Nelson’s confidence. “It was surprising, knowing that we are a better team,” Smith said. “They understand that they can’t just run us off [the court]. It’s going to be a tough series, and they know it.”

Hawks center Al Horford said Nelson’s comments have been a subject of conversation in the locker room, but guard Joe Johnson shrugged them off. “That’s how he feels,” Johnson said. “They are confident. You are supposed to be confident. It doesn’t bother me.”

So, yes, there you have it. Orlando vs Atlanta. There’s a beef there, but it’s one-sided, and not all that interesting. Oh, well.

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  • R3tRO

    I dont get it … its not like Jameer lied . lol

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Back it up Jameer. Magic in 5.

  • http://www.slamonline.com c_cantrell

    its not goin to be like last year boys! i see a 6 or 7 game series on the way!

  • Charles

    I think ATL will win in 7.

  • TheNightWatch*8*

    Before i was saying Magic in 4. Now im going Magic in 6.

  • irondan21

    ATL has the talent to win it in 7, but the work ethic and consistency to lose it in 5 or 6.

  • posterboy

    To be honest with as I remember last year, Vince Carter was there torching Joe Johnson and Josh Smith in the playoffs, people say want they want about Vince but he straight gave it o their ass, but..Orlando simply doesnt that have that guard/forward to match those 2 anymore lookin at their roster. Orlando dumb for gettin worser with their trades. Vince was shootin over 46 from 3 and about 46 inside before he got traded…I dont see any guard on their roster capable of doing that….

  • Riggs

    But…the hawks arent a better team. They are consistently average though and will be so throughout JJ’s contract.

  • Anthony

    hawks are gettn swept……knicks are gettn swept…… miami will be taken to 6 games…. chicago loses in 6 in the second round…..SHOCKING

  • fruizm

    jameer acting like hes gonna have his revenge against rose…PLEASE!

  • Najee Fareed

    Damn Right. The hawks are definitely gonna beat the magic in 6. They took the season series 3-1 and held Dwight Howard to shoot only 43.1 FG% agaimst the hawks. That is the worst he shoots against any team in the league. The rest of the team is not a problem. All they can do is shoot threes. That is easy to stop. Do your research.

  • Bruno

    with Joe Johnson’s attitude they aren’t goin anywhere … what Atlanta needs is that fire Josh Smith’s askin

  • http://jojo.com Max

    I say Magic in three!

  • dsleepy

    of course jameer thinks his team is the better one, and rightly so…HOWEVER, it is NEVER a smart move to rile up your opponents right before you face them. the hawks have talent, they just have lacked desire/fire. jameer may have just given them that fire. smh

  • r2j

    Until Atlanta plays with the same passion they had against Boston.They won’t be the team that will be tough to beat. Orlando in 5.

  • robb

    Josh deserves a better team

  • JTaylor21

    Of course it doesn’t bother JJ because it’s not like he could do something about it. Dude has to be the most overrated and over-payed player of all-time.

  • that dude

    It’s the playoffs and he is looking for added motivation, Come on son!! The playoffs are motivation enough.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Lang Whitaker

    That’s OK, Marcel.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Can someone explain to me why they used to compete so well against Boston but couldn’t do anything in the playoffs against Orlando last year? And their record is worse, and they are less efficient, does that really bode well for the playoffs? I’m worried about Atlanta, and would love for them to make it to round 2 so I can see a Joakim v Al Horford matchup for 6-7 straight games.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I want a Joakim vs. Dwight matchup so we can see all those intangibles and ball-handling that make Noah a better fit for the Bulls than Howard.
    Seriously.
    lol.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    haha, right. Chicago doesn’t particularly matchup well with either of those teams. Round 2 is going to be awesome.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Allen, Howard would beast in the second round against the Bulls.
    But it won’t matter cause the Bulls will prevail.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    And how exactly would seeing them go head-to-head show who’s a better fit in Chicago?
    Not exactly like the two will switch teams from game to game to compare the two.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    And Joe Johnson better blow the F up in the playoffs this year after his performance last year.
    Still can’t believe they paid dude that much money after getting 17, 5 and 5 on 38% FG and 22% from 3 in the playoffs.
    I know, I know, they had to pay him or lose their credibility.
    Blah blah blah…

  • D12FSU

    @posterboy: I’m guessing you didnt watch the magic before the trades, but he was AWEFUL. He took and missed so many shots and couldnt guard anyone. Orlando wanted to get rid of him so badly, they were willing to part with Gortat in order for that to happen. Regarding the series, Dwight will raise his level of play, Nelson is better than Hinrich, and in crunch time the Hawks will be playing Horford at center…who sh!ts his pants when he even thinks about guarding Dwight

  • monkeyball

    You would think the Orlando series is a good opportunity for Johnson to shine. The Magic do not have good back court defenders. Vince and Gilbert are always looking to run for transition baskets, so they’re never fully committed on defense.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Matic, Allen was being sarcastic man. – And they should not have paid Johnson that money at all, them getting rid of Josh Smith in the very near future is proof of that. – Also with the lower CBA I was wondering this, why did the Knicks extend Carmelo? They literally had nothing to lose by not resigning him, they would have had bird rights (if those still exist) and the leverage of being the place Melo wants to go while also being the place that can pay him the most money, so why didn’t they wait? even if it made Melo unhappy it likely would have a much lesser effect on the teams future then signing him for this huge extension under the current CBA…. just my thoughts.

  • D12FSU

    also @Najee: The one game we won was before the trades, and one of the losses was the first game after the trades so you cant take those into consideration for this series. Hawks won the other 2 games by an avg of 6.5. Dwight avg’d 18 and 16 even though he was in fact being guarded quit well by Collins. BUT if Jason Collins is your ace in the hole for playoff success, I’d say your team is F*****

  • D12FSU

    ^ Vince is not on the team monkeyball

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    lol @Allenp

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    This is gonna be a really good series, actually.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    After reading Rich Buchers Chat Wrap from this morning I have lost all respect for him and his opinion.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    this dude said Rose is far and away a better leader then LeBron was at that age. (Really, cuz LeBron was that age, with a worse team, and went to the finals, so how?) He even went as far as to say Derrick Rose is better at basketball right now, then EVERYONE. He said he’s the best player in the NBA > your supposed to be a respected basketball analyst, your supposed to understand the game. Not make crazy defensive arguments to further get yourself attention. YOu have lost the respect of anyone who knows the sport and actually pays attention to it. I hope he said that out of really poorly used sarcasm because if not then the entire nation is being cheated by being forced to listen to his obviously ludicrous opinion. Oh and also that the money we put into our cable companies gets filtered in a small way, into his big stupid pocket.

  • http://http//portlandfan1203.blogspot.com Karley

    I dont get why its not going to be exciting?? This game or games are going to be aawesome.. ATL has a big chance against Magic..

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    nbk, umm… I’d argue that Rose is far and away a better leader than LeBron is RIGHT NOW.
    Because he led his team to the finals and back-to-back 60-win records doesn’t make him a great leader.
    A great leader would’ve said “let’s cut this pre-game photo-shoot dancing BS and focus on the task at hand.”
    A great leader wouldn’t have been dancing on the sidelines in a blowout victory.
    A great leader wouldn’t (allegedley) force his teammates to give up their families’ parking garage spaces so his entourage could use them.
    A great leader wouldn’t question publicly question his coach.
    A great leader wouldn’t have abandoned ship to go FOLLOW Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
    He is without a doubt a better player than Derrick Rose, but a better leader?
    Not in my opinion.

  • Eddie

    It matters not what any of you scrubs think or predict will happen. The games are played out on an astronomical board designed at each apex of the solar gravity’s pull on the illuminatrix binding our universe as a whole. The Illuminati will decide who wins and who doesn’t. It is all based on their will. God bess, EDDIE.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Matic, a great leader wouldn’t do the pre-game photoshoot stuff keep his teammates loose? that seems to be what they needed, to stay loose, those guys OBVIOUSLY struggle under pressure. Especially without LeBron. I don’t know anything about a parking spot thing so that’s whatever if he did that then that’s an ego issue not a leadership issue. And he didn’t abandon ship, he was on a liferaft, and as soon as an opportunity came to be on a safer better boat he took it. Anyone who thinks he should have stayed in cleveland values money over winning. Being as rich as LeBron is, I would have lost all respect for him, all of it, if he STAYED in cleveland. You can’t criticize a person for abandoning a sinking ship, it doesn’t make sense.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    BTW, nbk, what’s your twitter? I’ma follow you to have the same access to the wealth of information you do. HA

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    sooper fadeaway

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    no space, my fault.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    a leader/captain goes down with his ship!
    but i wouldn’t have stayed in cleveland, hell no, you kidding me…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Derrick Rose has faced 0 adversity as the leader of the Bulls. Give credit to his brothers for keeping him humble, but he hasn’t been on a rocking boat yet, hell he hasn’t even had the opportunity to fail yet. Losing in the first round to boston and miami was acceptable, nobody criticized Rose for that. Up until he doesn’t meet expectations he’s going to look great, just like LeBron did until the end of 2007. Remember, everyone talked about how great of a young leader he was, and how he was an overachiever, basically all the praise Rose is getting now, LeBron got 4 years ago. Its just like revisionist history or whatever its called, the situations have changed, so the perceptions of the past have changed.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    i guess we’ll know everybody’s complete, fleshed out perception of drose after this postseason. i still believe he’s a great leader and player, as i always have, even when people were at full hate mode earlier this season so thats not changing at all.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I think he is a wonderful leader, great for his age. But I think its way way to early to say he’s better then a guy who got further with less talent at the same age. But that’s not even where I really was frustrated/disappointed with what Rich Bucher said, its when he said Rose is the best player in the league right now. And also that those Cleveland teams were equally talented to this Chicago team, he said Verajao and Noah are a wash (really? how?) he said Boozer can’t be counted because Boozer played with LeBron (yeah in 03-04 wth, he wasn’t the Carlos Boozer he is now, and LeBron was a teenager), and to top it all off, he said that Larry Hughes (the one that played in Cleveland) is a WASH with Luol Deng. (GTFOH with that nonsensical BS. Hughes put up numbers in Washington, playing at a crazy pace but please in Cleveland? compared to this Luol Deng who is an all nba defender and much much better offensive player then Hughes) I am completely flummaxed by Rich Bucher and what he said today, it was so ignorant and just downright wrong I can’t tell if he is just trying to get readers or what. Its pathetic, and I let him know via a very long series of Tweets lol.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    To be clear, I’m more saying that LeBron is a horrible leader than I am saying Rose is a great one.
    And you can find success with your best player not being your best leader.
    Michael Jordan wasn’t always the best leader, neither is Kobe Bryant.
    I disagree with the idea that you can’t be a great leader unless you’ve faced adversity.
    It can certainly test your leadership, but it doesn’t forge it.
    And while the playoffs are a completely different animal, if you want to use the adversity thing, we could argue that Rose did an extremely great job of keeping everyone focused and on course when Boozer and Noah were out.
    He’s led by example and has said all the right things.
    Also, let’s not forget how he has completely bought into Thibs’ system, which LeBron has failed to do with any coach he has ever had.
    And Loul Deng >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Hughes.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    oh dude, it was rick bucher? psh i don’t listen to him most times anyways hahah. only dude on there that isn’t a player who i would listen to is like, broussard or scoop

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, Rose is a great leader?
    What has he done to prove he’s a great leader unless you are including winning 62 gms in the RS and win state titles as your reference point.
    If that’s the case, Dirk must be the greatest leader of this era based on his team winning 50+ gms 11 yrs in a row. Come on son, stop it. Rose has done nothing to show that he’s a great leader.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    JTaylor, like I said…
    It’s not so much that I think Rose is a great leader.
    It’s more that I think LeBron is a really sh*tty leader.
    It ain’t about who’s a better player or who’s led what team to how many wins.
    Sh*t, Shane Battier’s a better leader than LeBron BY FAR.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Rose is a great leader because he buys into his coaches philosophy and expects just as much out of his teammates as he does himself, which is just about as much as humanly possible. He’s one hell of a leader. Still though, how does he lead when he’s considered a disappointment? People change under certain conditions, and IMO the best leaders have experienced just about everything. And Rose, has only experienced success at the professional level. Even the collegiate level, although he lost in the championship game, it was by one shot, and it was short lived, as he got attention for his great perfomance and was drafted #1 overall by his hometown team in a matter of 3 months. The closest thing to adversity on the court that he’s experienced is his SAT thing, but even that wasn’t very important, he was out of school already, and everyone at the professional level knows that its not so out of the ordinary for a school or student to find a way to fudge some scores/grades to become NCAA eligible, it just isn’t.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    See I don’t see any reason to think LeBron is a worse leader then Rose, just because his entire team underperformed against boston? Or because he left? (and by leaving he is not their leader, its not a family that is left without a father, its a business, where a better business opportunity came up. Its called improving your life, not disappointing your followers) From what I’ve seen from LeBron as a leader, Homecourt in atleast the first round of the playoffs for 5(?) straight years despite constant personnel changes, a severly undertalented supporting cast, and this year in Miami (which would have been an absolute disappointment had they won less then 52 games, let alone not having homecourt, so that doesn’t really count). His teammates love him, he stands up for them and defends them. Never says anything negative about them. He doesn’t lead his coach, if he thinks his coach is making a mistake its his job as a leader to voice that, not Mario Chalmers. (doing it publicly is the issue IMO, but he did the “decision” so maybe he just doesn’t get that some things aren’t meant to be public?) – really all the knocks against LeBron as a leader have almost nothing to do with what he and his teams do on the court, but how “diva-ish” he is, off it.

  • http://jojo.com Max

    Since when are Rose and Lebron on the Magic or Hawks?

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    See, you guys are equating being the best player with being the leader of a team, and I don’t agree with that at all.
    I think Derek Fisher is the leader of the Lakers.
    I think Jason Kidd is the leader of the Mavs.
    I think Shane Battier and Tony Allen are the leaders of the Grizzlies.
    And so on.
    LeBron’s an amazing talent, and he’s been the best player on his team everywhere he’s gone, including Miami.
    But he’s not a leader.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    hold up. so if you’re going to judge how great a leader he is when he’s up against adversity/disappointment, what happens if somebody does not disappoint? or has to go thru as much adversity? is it his fault that he didn’t create a media frenzy or is it his fault that his team is rolling right now, because of him? im kind of unsure what your measuring stick is right now, nbk

  • Eddie

    @airs, bulls will lose round 1. They’ll fall behind this week and hit the panic button. I’m telling you now. Whether or not you choose to believe or mock is up to you. God bless, EDDIE

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    well airs, what NBA player has ever gone their whole career exceeding expectations? the answer is none, its rhetorical. So until then, I can’t consider Rose a better leader then LeBron, he just hasn’t been through enough. Rose’s demeanor and ego are better then LeBron’s, but if I wanted someone to lead me through the playoffs into a championship between the two, I would pick LeBron. Plus as much of a student of the game as he seems to be (LeBron) I doubt Rose understands as much about being a leader in those types of pressure packed situations (like any round of the playoffs after the 1st). I value winning maybe to a fault, which is why I feel suddenly in the minority when I say Rose is still only the 3rd best PG in the league. (and I’m not sorry we talk about Rose everyday, his situation is unique, and has many many layers, just for all you that complain that we talk about the same thing on the reg)

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, ummmm didn’t you just say that Rose is far and away a better leader than Bron? Which would make him a great leader because regardless of how you may feel about Bron’s off the court bs, dude is a great on the court leader.
    He’s a great vocal leader as evidence by what his coaches and teammates on Team USA said. He was the one voice that everyone listened to on defense, what he does is similar to what KG brings to Bos defense. I would bet that if his heat teammates and coaches would say that same thing.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kobe Bryant is the leader of the Lakers, Derek Fisher is the calming presence. If your not being led by your best player you aren’t winning. I believe I read this is “the art of war” but its never right for a leader to defer any kind of leadership responsibilities that lead is subordinates to question who the “leader” is (i worded that wrong, but its basically, the leader should be the person who decides what happens on the court, not the guy who watches and waits to see if maybe they get involved.)

  • JTaylor21

    *if asked*

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i’m sorry about the typos fellas, figure it out. haha

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I have to disagree with you there, Enigmatic. LeBron seems to be a really effective leader, actually. There’s no way you can say that he’s a sh!tty leader–the way he rallies his teammates during timeouts or even during a stopped play for a huddle, and the way he gets everyone involved. He’s well-like by his teammates and he’s patient, ie. never throwing his teammates under the bus (at least I don’t think he’s done it). I really don’t see how you can think he’s not a good leader–on the court, at least. That camera/dancing crap is irrelevant to what he actually does on the court, and it probably does help with team chemistry, believe it or not. Like a very elaborate chest bump, lol.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    okay, i got you. but what about a player who, if not exceeded, has met most, if not all expectations.
    up until this season i dont think there’s been an expectation dwyane wade hasn’t either met or exceeded. he came back from injury and played great while people expected less, hell they probably didn’t expect a championship from him when they won it.
    i dont think there will ever be a player who exceeds every expectation, but im sure there are who have met it.
    i think it’s fair to say we’ve expected a championship from bron by now and still hasn’t happened, so im still kinda lost on your point. maybe its just me understanding, im actually sure it is, haha.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    misunderstanding*

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, LeBron has a pretty damn good track record as being the leader and only All-Star on his team for years. Bringing his team to the finals and leading his team to the best record in the NBA–those are some impressive feats right there, even if he hasn’t won a chip yet.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I hate when comments won’t post.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    well I didn’t expect a title from LeBron until he got out of Cleveland. ANd going into this season I would have bet money that it ended with Boston and LA again. But since the Perkins trade, idk, Miami is a playoff monster that will, in every series but MAYBE one, have the 2 best players at all times, which in basketball, the playoffs especially is huge. – Wade has had injury riddled seasons, he has missed the playoffs, he was supposed to challenge LeBron for MVP every season, but he has trouble staying healthy, which is not what was expected. – Its just adversity really, and Rose hasn’t had any real adversity in the NBA. I am prepared to say Rose is on pace to be a better leader then LeBron but that goes back to personality more then what they provide on the court at similar ages, because LeBron was still great then. (and he’s always been a better, more vocal defender, which is IMO the most important role for a leader on a basketball team other then experience/failure/success (all three))

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    nbk -You can’t quote Sun Tzu when we’re talking about basketball.
    In war, yeah, you better know who your commander is and you don’t question your commander or take the orders from someone else above theirs’.
    In sports, you can have more than one leader on the team.
    It’s ok, no one’s gonna get killed out there. Trust me.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    @ teddy, the photo that pops up when i click your name has made my day oh so much better. not that it was bad to begin with, but thank you brother.

  • http://www.t00nish.com Grant

    Just give Dwight Howard the ball people. It’s the smart thing to do.

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, since bron is not the on the court leader of the heat, who is?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    ahh depends on your philosophy matic. Me personally, I think of every basketball game as a war. I am not trying to say its anything close or anything like that, i’m not taking anything away from anyone in the services, i just go about winning like if i lose, i’m dead. And in my personal experience its always best if you best player is your team leader. you don’t want a game to end and your leader looking at everyone in the locker room trying to say something when really what can they say? how can they lead from that point? the game was decided (we won/lost doesn’t matter) and our leader had literally nothing to do with it. He played, but he just stood in the corner. We as the team know he didn’t really contribute to the win, so are we goin to look at his as our “leader”? and if we lost, is he really gonna try and criticize something? your our leader, you just let it happen. It can’t work like that, that’s not a leader, unless its the kind with pom poms. That’s how I see it, and was raised to see it as a competitive basketball player

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    JTaylor – Mario Chalmers.
    No?
    ….Joel Anthony?
    Nah, in seriousness, it’s a toss-up between LeBron and Wade. I’ve seen LeBron get up in his guys’ a**es when they’re playing bad, and I love to see that, but I don’t know.
    At the same time I don’t remember him ever taking the blame for any of his missed potential game-winners, and to me that’s just not right.
    If I’m wrong about that, my bad, but like I said, I don’t remember him ever saying “my fault, guys, this loss is on me”, which Rose has done many times this season, even when it could be argued that it wasn’t his fault.
    nbk – yeah, I never like It when athletes talk about “we’re going to war” or “it’s going to be a battle” or whatever.
    LeBron and Kobe are notorious for it.
    I don’t see it as disrespectful, because I know for a fact they’re not trying to downplay what the military does (shout out to the Heat organization for all they’ve done for the military this season, BTW) but it just makes me laugh and roll my eyes.
    Cause war is war, and there’s nothing on this planet that’s comparable to being in a war, in my opinion.
    Plus most these dudes would be shook as f*ck if they were the boots on the ground.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    ignorance is bliss matic. Me as a person who will never be in war, (by choice which seems to suffice) I will never know what its like, so saying we are going to war is the only language I have to explain what I feel like i’m going into. (you get what I mean?) its like people saying the ancients didn’t have the language to explain a “flying saucer” so they called it a “chariot of fire”(just an analogy, i know you want to start a debate Philo, if your here) – so to me basketball games are like going to war, even though I know, if I ever went to war, a basketball game is the last thing I would compare it to.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Well, the one aspect where I would compare a basketball game to a battle is on the sidelines.
    Military leaders strategize and design “plays” just like basketball coaches.
    Reconnaissance teams and Intel units gather information on the enemy just like scouts.
    Also, to be clear, I don’t think war is always just country vs. country, or some military conflict.
    The drug war’s a war.
    Gang wars are wars.
    Sh*t, an alcoholic trying to quit is at war with himself.
    A five-on-five pickup game with your mans and em at the rec is not a war. Lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I realize. Although I treat it as such, which is probably why my rep is to not bring me around for casual games. My competitive “nature” is my issue with almost all aspects of life. Be it trying to destroy my mother in a game of Yahtzee or playing a championship game at the local gym. don’t matter i’m always the same. and its a problem

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, you need to get your ears checked or maybe you conveniently suffered through a case of amnesia when he stated to the media that he told his teammates “he would not fail them in the clutch again”. It seems like people choose to ignore certain things that pertains to a player they dislike, it’s something that people do all the time without knowing.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    And was that after the fifth or seventh time he “failed them in the clutch again”?
    What about the other times?
    Did he make any such statements then?

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    And I dislike LeBron now?
    Did my screen name change to Kap, The Seed, or Bryan Crawford?
    I just call a spade a spade.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    When does Kobe apologize for what he does in the clutch? when did Michael apologize or say anything about losing being his fault? What you say to the media has nothing to do with the caliber of leader you are in the lockerroom/on the court. Because LeBron didn’t say “this loss was on me” every time he screwed up is that going to change anything with his teammates? are they going to look at him as a lesser player because he didn’t admit to the world that it was his fault his team lost? that doesn’t really make any sense to me, those guys have their or relationships and conversations on a daily basis, what one guy says or actually doesn’t say to the media in a 5 minute interview is completely, 100% irrelevant to how that player leads the team in games and preparing for them.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    have their own*

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I’m sorry, nbk, I’m still struggling with the image of you threatening to put hands on your moms for losing to her in Yahtzee, lol
    Don’t do it! Be nice to the ol’ earth, or like Mr. T said, “Treat Your Mother Right”!

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    In other words, I got nothing. The more I speak on why I think LeBron isn’t an effective leader, the more I come off as a LeBron-basher, which I’m not.

  • JTaylor21

    Ok, whatever. This is the first season Rose has showcased good leadership while Bron has been a great/vocal leader for the past 6 yrs, end of story.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    I am not looking at you as a bron basher, just a clearly different opinion on what makes a good leader in basketball

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Moving on though…how much is Jerry Reinsdorf paying Ric Bucher????

  • JTaylor21

    I heard he promised him a statue of his own in front of United Center.
    Why you asking?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    If you read that chat it would put u under the assumption Bucher has a Derrick Rose wall paper on his computer.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    And I would like to say I enjoy the commenting section over the last month. Not many people taking others opinions personally, it’s kinda nice.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Because before we brought up “HE WHO MUST NOT BE BAD-MOUTHED”’s leadership skills, this whole thing kicked off cause Bucher was talking reckless about Rose being the best player in the NBA.
    Derrick Rose wallpaper on his computer?
    Or Derrick Rose wallpaper on his walls at home? lol

  • JTaylor21

    Yo enigmatic, you could bad-mouth dude all you want, I could care less. It’s not like I personally know dude or I go to sleep crying at night in my “rose” colored snuggie over people talking bad about him.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Either or, and some addidas, a “because I’m fast” t-shirt. And a Memphis sweater. He might even have a rose tattooed on his ankle

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    JT, you care, my dude.
    You care cause you pounce on anyone who writes anything negative about him on here, without fail.
    It’s all good, I often do the same when someone talks sh*t about D Rose, and you know that.
    But I don’t deny it, you do.
    You ain’t gotta lie to kick it!
    nbk, how bout an ESPN Napoleon Dynamite “Every Rose Has It’s….Horns” shirt.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    A “The Great Poohdini” t shirt.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    He got the same gold track suit Slim Chin was rockin in those “Fast Don’t Lie” ads.

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, maybe you’re right. Anyways, what does everyone’s award picks look like?
    MVP- DRose
    DPOY- KG
    ROY- BGriff
    MIP- DRose
    COY- Thibs
    Sixth Man- LO

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    MVP – Derrick Rose
    DPOY – Tony Allen
    ROY – Blake Griffin
    MIP – Derrick Rose
    COY – Tom Thibodeau
    6th Man – Thaddeus Young

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Rose – Howard – Wall (Griffin shouldn’t be eligible) – Rose – Thibs – Odom

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    All-NBA:
    First team: Rose, Wade, Lebron, Amare, Dwight
    Second team: Williams, Bryant, Durant, Griffin, Aldridge
    Third team: Parker, Ginobili, Melo, Nowitzki, I have no damn clue.

  • JTaylor21

    All-NBA:
    First- Rose/Wade/Bron/KD/DHow
    Second- Paul/KB/Melo/Dirk/Amare
    Third- Rondo/Westbrook/BGriff/LA/Gasol
    All-Defense:
    First- Rondo/TAllen/GHill/KG/DHow
    Second- Paul/Wade/Brewer/Bron/Bogut

  • JoeMaMa

    @the end-of-season lists: DHoward should be the DPOY. Good lists…but it’s really tough to argue against Dwight Howard as any less than the best defensive player in the league.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    If Hawks played a different team would have shot. Magic will win in 5.

    Also First Team is Rose/KB/Bron/Dirk/Howard
    Second Team is Rondo/Wade/Melo/KD/Gasol
    Third Team is Williams/Westbrook/LA/Love/Amare

    BOOK IT!!!

    DPOY is Howard, 6th Man is Odom, COY is Doug Collins, ROY is BGriff and MIP is Lawson and MVP is Rose.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    this rose hate is getting hilarious

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    Go Hawks. I fully expect the Magic to win though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    7 games, but Magic got this covered.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    DRose is the the truth, but so is RWestbrook. Indiana gonna expose the Bulls.

  • OneStep

    The fact that Josh is motivated by anything is mildly remarkable based on his distinctly average season so far. He seems to have plateaued this year. A great series from him will rekindle my faith in his abilities. I’m not holding my breath though.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    MVP: Rose
    DPOY: Dwight
    6th: Felton if eligible, otherwise Lamar
    MIP: Deng
    Rook: Griffyndor
    Coach: Popp
    NBA 1st: Rose/Kobe/Bron/Dirk/Dwight

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Man, EFF D. Rose!
    Nah, playing.
    Rose is a great leader.
    In my opinion.
    They follow his every lead. They are made in his image.

  • flipnoyce

    Hawks are a joke, how do you play in your own home and get booed by home crowd and start cheering for the other team.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Derrick Rose shoots four more free throws than the entire Indiana Pacers COMBINED… It’s clear who the NBA wants to win this series. Total BS.
    Bulls shoot 31 free-throws to the Pacers’ 17. EVERY TIME Rose gets touched it’s a f*cking foul. F*cking refs are at it again. The NBA doesn’t need Las Vegas or the mob to do what it’s ALWAYS been doing.

  • el_larsen

    and i fear it’s just the beginning!!
    even if pacers play well ,refs won’t let the bulls loose

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    yeah the hawks aren’t winning this series. s/o to everybody who thinks they can though.

  • knickzvet82

    Not to defend Rose but the dude goes to the hoop hard and often to get to the line. IMO

  • http://jojo.com Max

    Dwight is beastin the Hawks right now.

  • Memo

    well it looks he didnt lie did he? 31 points from howard and they are down by 7. looks like its gonna be a tough series

  • Riggs

    lmaooooooooooooooooooooo @ the magic.

  • Riggs

    @teddy: are you trying to say that they DIDNT foul rose when he went the rim? even though on almost all of his fouls, the replay (that they showed every time) shows that they did? please.

  • knickzvet82

    Jameer Nelson and Karma had a date tonight, unfortunately it went sour and Karma kicked his ass in the parking lot.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Riggs: The guy averages what, 5 free throw attempts per game? All of a sudden he get 21 (!) free throws to Indiana’s 17 today? The man had 39 points on 10 field goal makes, with zero 3′s made. The officiating was blatantly one-sided; there is absolutely no way Chicago should have won that game from the way they played this afternoon.

  • Bruno

    I can see this series going 7 games

  • http://www.theresastatforthat.blogspot.com Deron

    Orlando is a fraud. Tonight’s game exposed their biggest offensive weakness. The Hawks played Dwight Howard straight up and stayed home on the Magic’s perimeter players. Obviously, anyone who watches basketball knows that is the defensive game plan of choice against the Magic.

    http://theresastatforthat.blogspot.com/2011/04/hawks-magic-hawks-had-perfect-game-plan.html

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Deron, the Magic missed A LOT of open 3′s. If those fall, it’s a different ball game.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    AGAIN the refs f*ck the entire game up for the away team by suddenly calling a string of phantom fouls in the fourth quarter. The refs COMPLETELY destroyed the Portland’s momentum by calling three or four ridiculous fouls for Dirk Nowitzki, practically gift-wrapping points for the Mavericks.
    The referees don’t call sh!t in the first three quarters but in the fourth, every time a player so much as breathes on Dirk, it’s a foul?

  • andre t

    what was nelson supposed to say in the last week of the season hey rose i will see you next yr i thought you was the 4 seed and they are the 5 seed so you going to give the hawks 4 wins man that guy is stuiped nelson cant be a teammate of mines you people a

  • andre t

    josh smith need motivation to win now that is funny

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Great games today, though.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Refs gave Dirk those points, he still is a fraud, and chokes. Portland got screwed. BOOK IT!!

  • el_larsen

    the league wants a bulls lakers finals.

  • el_larsen

    sorry i must be depressed.let’s believe !
    go c’s

  • el_larsen

    good defense in first half by hinrich on nelson.
    larry drew is not bad ,but not good too.he should play hilton armstrong instead of josh powell!!!
    marvin williams is a nb 2 draft pick!!!!!!!!!!!!what a bust

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Good thing I didn’t bet the house on the Magic. SMH

  • bashmo

    Its crazy to see dwight drop 46 and for us to still lose by the amount that we did. Still, if Richardson and Turkoglu keep missing bunnies, we cant expect to stay competitive…oh and Kirk Hinrich can BALL!

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