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Friday, April 1st, 2011 at 8:25 am  |  137 responses

Post Up: Hold On, Be Strong

Lakers power through Mavs; Celts defeat Spurs.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Boston 107, San Antonio 97

I wrote the other day how both of these teams were at a bit of a freefall from their respective positions, but that the Spurs’ drop-off seemed definitively worse than the Celts’. And now, I’ve got proof! With both teams fully stocked with their best guys (though arguably not the full health of said guys), the C’s jumped ahead in the third and maintained that lead from there, defeating San Antonio on the road and showing what they’re still capable of, even with all the losing and injuries. Rajon Rondo was his usual masterful self, scoring 22 points (11-20 from field) and dishing 14 dimes, while Tony Parker put in the game-high of 23. Most notable was the fact that Boston shot 54.8 percent from the floor, 10.5 percent more than the Spurs, a figure that likely represents the difference in both efficiency and final score. Coach Pop’s crew will look to end this now-five-game losing streak in Houston tonight; the Celtics are off to Atlanta.

L.A. Lakers 110, Dallas 82

The Mavs had a chance to make a statement with a big win over the Lakers last night, a chance to legitimize their five-game winning streak, incredible road record and plans to contend during the upcoming postseason. They might’ve made a statement, but it was nothing positive, providing evidence that none of the previous three things may be true. The Lakers simply had their way with them last night, shutting down Dallas offensively (the Mavs shot 36.1 from the field), and limiting their attack from all angles. They also got in the Mavs’ heads, as a too-hard Jason Terry foul on Steve Blake led to a scuffle, the result being the ejections of Blake and Matt Barnes for L.A., and Terry and Brendan Haywood for Dallas. As far as the team leaders go, Kobe (28 points) is still rolling, while Dirk scored a nice 27 but received little help. If the current standings maintain—which, given the Spurs’ continued downfall and the Lakers’ insistence on not losing, might not be the case—the Mavs and Lake Show will face each other in the second round. It’s obvious who’ll have the upper hand in that one, but at least that matchup will be heated as hell. Who knew Steve Blake could be at the center of any kind of drama, with the possible exception of a guest spot in a serious episode of a usually-lighthearted TV sitcom? (That I could see.) Anyway, the Mavs will look to get back on track in Golden State tomorrow night; the Lakers are in Utah tonight.

Last Call: Never stop being you, Ron Ron.

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  • http://shinefluid@aol.com just bcuz

    Mavs are softer than baby food!! Lets be real the Lakers only comp in the west is OKC. everyone else is a fraud.

  • bull22

    @speedy, i dont even know who you are. but i will be polite and just tell you what i have told two bloggers who love to run their mouths, if you cant come up with a good point to argue, then dont… other then that for me, just pure basketball talk brother..

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    HUGE win for the Lakers last night. In regards to the 4th Quarter scuffle, that was a cheap “I’m not shooting well and I’m frustrated” foul from Terry and I like Barnes coming to his defense. Like he and Kobe said afterwards, they’re a family. Granted, he deserved to be tossed. But, I hope he doesn’t get any extra for knocking the Mavs asst. coach down. That guy should not have been wrapping up his waist. Barnes was exiting (albeit unhappily) and he didnt need to get humped by someone that wasn’t involved.

  • Ali

    Look out S.A. here comes LA LA LAND for that #1 spot!

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I mentioned a week ago that L.A could catch the Spurs….
    Right now, today, the Lakers are the best team in basketball. The Mavericks may not be a top 4 team in the West.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Jtaylor, about your comment last night, regarding Mid-range shooting bigs, would you include D West in that list?
    If we are talking specifically mid-range, I would have him at number 1.

  • Hursty

    Nice to see Timmy Duncan back in action.
    Didn’t think he’d be ready to go until at least next week.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    Last night was a great example of a game in which Kobe shot poorly from the field, but still had a realitively efficient game (an above average 1.33 points per FG) that allowed the Lakers to maintain and extend their lead.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    I have this uneasy feeling in my gut that LA will three-peat. I hoope I’m wrong. I pray I’m wrong, but I can’t see anybody beating them this year. :-(

  • bull22

    12 more days until the season ends.. then the playoffs begin,, as always iam sure many of you will become bandwagon fans once your team is eliminated… the good thing is all this trash talking nonsense will be settled for the year..
    go BULLS!

  • James

    “Who knew Steve Blake could be at the center of any kind of drama” ummmmm how often does the person who wrote this watch the NBA. cuz ive seen steve blake get in numerous altercations on the court. he dont take sh*t from no one

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    *hope

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    The Mavs are the Orlando Magic of the West… You can’t believe in them. You shouldn’t believe in them. They’re frauds.

  • dsleepy

    so relieved that rondo is back to his usual self…was worried for a while there

  • rik

    Reagrding midrange-PF Id also include Aldrige! His turnaround-J is deadly…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    BC, I pray NOH get Dallas in the first round.

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    “B!tch”

  • ClydeSays

    Great road win for the C’s. Nice to see JO playing, even a little. Rondo & Pierce had great all around games.

    As for the Mavs/Lakers, keep bringing the crazy, Ron.

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com just bcuz

    can we officially say the east is the better conference now?

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    just bcuz, top to bottom, no.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    AllBall, I’m not saying that Dallas is going to be an easy out by any stretch. In fact, I think they’ll probably beat the Hornets if that matchup manifested because New Orleans isn’t physical like that.
    They’re soft, top to bottom. Get physical with them and they disappear. Dirk Nowitzki is a great player and he’s going to pretty much always get his numbers, but he’s soft. That says a lot about that team to me.
    At the end of the day, it’s the teams who are the toughest (mentally and physically) that will have a chance to compete for the NBA title. You can take the Mavs right off that list.
    They have no chance.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @just bcuz: No way! As of right now the 7 & 8 seeds in the East are below .500. The best team under .500 out west is the 10th best team in the conference. Look at the bottom five in each. East – CLE .203, WAS .243, Toronto .270, NJ .311, DET .351. West – MINN .227, SAC .284, LAC .387, GSW .421, UTAH .480. Sure the top of the east is great (CHI, BOS, MIA) but it does help their records that they get 20-ish games against those awful basement dwellers.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I do not think they are an easy out, I do think they are the best possible match-up for the Hornets, giving them their best chance of advancing.
    The Hornets have always been physical with Dallas, Nowitzki in particular. Unfortunately, that was often David West affect, and he is not going to be part of any play-off series.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I forgot that David West was done for the year. Him not playing gives the Hornets no chance to beat Dallas. Sorry, AllBall.

  • Bruno

    LA owns Dallas, I think LA could be more afraid of matching agains Portland, OKC or SA but LA always has owned Dallas

  • Tom

    i don’t believe in the Mavs and never did since that 67 victory seasoned fallowed a 1st round exit

  • MUBWAR

    those were the days. Bdiddy at the 1 and captain Jack as the off guard was a nice combo.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    No need to apologise, I don’t put THAT much stock into what you predict, anyway.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    You gotta love Ron Artest. The Cubes – Phil beef keeps getting better – it should be interesting if/when they meet in the playoffs. Terry’s shove was a stupid I just got beat off the dribble I don’t wanna play any more defense foul. Bet he wouldn’t try that with Ron. AND ** another day of TPU subjected the idiocy of Greek dude’s spawn Bull22. I give!

  • http://www.laumol.nl/weblog Laumol

    NBA Finals: Lakers vs Bulls Please, please, please!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Haha, that’s cool, AllBall… But just remember this conversation.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I wonder if bull22 is really Jay Williams?

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    We need to stop talking about the Golden State series. I’m getting depressed and it’s Friday! Friday! Gotta get down on Friday!

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Rondo’s midrange Jumper was money last night, granted most of them were wide open, but if he can do that on a consistent basis he will be that much more dangerous

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Right now, I think the Heat are the only team that could win 4/7 over the Lakers. That would be the best match-up in the Finals, IMO.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    BC, If the Hornets lose I will deny any recollection of this conversation!

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    BC, or Stacey King!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Ron Artest is a star.

  • bull22

    this article was right on target! any TRUE bulls fan knows a number one seed, a star player and a DEFENSE gives you a shot at NBA finals championship. nuff said

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/Finals-or-Bust-119052594.html

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    hey BC, i was just wondering. there’s this old dude thats ALWAYS behind the bulls bench at home games. balding, black guy. ive seen him there since like the 80′s and never figured out his name, know who im talking about?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @airs: That’s Joe Lee. He’s the Bulls equipment manager since 1966. He also worked for the team when they were the Zephyrs. Dude’s been around FOREVER.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I like how gritty the lakers are now. They mean. Its good. Lamar should have summed up the 6th man debate last night.

  • fourthree

    DAMN, thanks bro! thats been on my mind for a while.
    always wondered why they never did a feature on him on CSN, or maybe i just missed it. i always look for him at the beginning of every season haha

  • bull22

    i love it when you quiet bums have nothing to say…. it must really empower your little minds… not to be able to come up with legitimate arguments… hahahahahahahahahhahahahaha keep staying quiet, because the bulls continue to win games!

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    whoa, that comment from fourthree was from me

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    “empower your little minds”… bull22 can’t be jay williams, dude is smart. maybe he’s eddie robinson.

  • JTaylor21

    I’m sorry but anyone that still thinks Dirk is soft doesn’t know anything about NBA basketball.
    Out of all the ruckus that went down last night, how many was Dirk involved in?
    Now you can say that his teammates are soft but ever since he got punked by GS, dude has been anything but soft and I despise jumpshooting bigs, so don’t try to act like I’m defending him.
    AllBall, I forgot about DWest. He probably comes in 5th behind those guys.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Sergio

    @bull22,
    Just don’t be like other people here and once the bulls lose you’re nowhere to be found…

  • J-MAC

    Quick question…who was better in their prime Shawn Kemp or Cwebb?

  • bull22

    @airs, little minds simply refers to those busters that like any group love to gang up on others whether in person or in the internet universe, iam just amused by it, thats all..

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    empower isn’t the right…nvm haha.

  • bull22

    @sergio, i can take losing like a man, so believe me i will be here until the playoffs is completely over, whether my teams advances or not. but the real fun begins in two weeks, but you are right, many will disappear or make excuses once their team loses, lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Basketball teams take on the identities of their leaders. Whether the leader is a coach, a player, or both, it doesn’t matter. That’s what it is. I’ll leave it at that with regard to the Dallas Mavericks.

  • JTaylor21

    You could say that Dirk lacks physicality but to say that dude’s soft is a little extreme.
    The Mavs are strictly a jumpshooting team, so maybe that’s why people label them as soft.
    I think having a guy the CButler (hoping that he comes back) and TChandler gives them a little edge going into the playoffs.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Sergio

    @bull22,
    sounds good
    @J-MAC,
    good question, IMO CWebb was better.

  • MUBWAR

    Dirk is softer than cotton candy. I can’t believe he didn’t step for Jason. Matter of fact no one stepped up for except for Haywood. that entire team is just sofft

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com Tina Turner

    Spurs are something the Lakers will place on the bottom of their boots in about a wek or so.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @J-MAC: Webber was the better player, but Kemp was more dynamic and exciting

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    kemp was def. more exciting. but he couldn’t touch cwebb’s passing. i take webber.

  • J-MAC

    @jump I think that sums it up. Kemp had the dunks and highlights but CWebb had better fundementals and all around game. What about Mitch Richmond or Chris Mullin?

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    MITCH

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    If the lakers win out. Kobe gets MVP. If and only if. I love Derrick, but it’d be a travesty for Kobe to leave the game with 1 MVP when he has derserved at least 2 or 3… Dericks going to get it a couple times in the next decade.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Caron Butler, Tyson Chandler, Shawn Marion and JJ Barea (jk) would have jumped in that, the Mavs just had the wrong lineup in for a scuffle lol. but for real, the Lakers are looking exactly how I thought they would going into the playoffs. yesterday’s game might actually turn out significant if it is what decides homecourt between the two in the second round….assuming LA doesn’t catch the Spurs.

  • Mr. Chill

    Da Mavs need to get wit it or they will exit early. Everyone needs to chill out cause da chill is back to talk da smack

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    @Lakeshow: Even as a Laker fan, I’ve supported Rose all season. But, for me if the Lakers can make up all this ground and finish with the league’s best record it’s Kobe. Although, to be honest I’d rather see him win another Bill Russell.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The problem with Kobe for MVP is the first half of the season. Sorry you can’t just give him the award because his team is better then everyone else’s. Pau was the best laker for a stretch this season, even Lamar. Rose, Howard, Nowitzki have been the catalyst behind every win for their team. I can’t possibly see Kobe getting MVP. and trust me, as long as he is in the running for Rings he could care less about MVP.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    No way, You can’t even put Kobe in front of LeBron at this point. He’s third in MVP voting. It’s a shame that he will end his career with less MVPs than Nash. He needs not individual accolades, for championships are built on teams.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    @ Lakeshow: Even if the Lakers get to no. 1, so what? They’re supposed to be no. 1 anyway being the defending champs and all. Rose is still MVP. Robbing him of an award just because it will pad Kobe’s legacy is beyond stupid. Kobe has 1 MVP because that’s exactly how many times he actually deserved the award, even if he didn’t the year he actually won it.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Vlade Divac or Arvydas Sabonis?
    Strictly NBA careers.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    ‘Matic… I got something up for you on Ryan Boatright. Check it out when you have a chance.
    As a matter of fact, ALL of you guys need to read that story.
    *shameless self promotion comment*

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    kobe has been great, but as i risk being eaten alive by laker fans as i say this, i don’t think he’s as valuable to his team as rose is. he’s got pau and lamar who have backed him up all season and have had more an impact on some games than kobe.
    but anyways, i take vlade. he can at least jump over a phone book.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Yeah but watching Sabonis pass and keeping that perfect hair was mesmerizing.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Oh, and in the most depressing news of the day, EA Sports just bought 2K Sports.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Say it ain’t so BC, say it ain’t so…

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    BC: NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
    Regarding your second comment, not your first.
    Good lookin’ out on that Ryan Boatright piece.

  • JTaylor21

    You Lie!!!

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    That’s gotta be an April Fools day joke, right?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Haha, I’m just messing with you guys!
    Yeah, it’s an April Fools joke.
    And I realize that’s lame, but imagine my surprise (and anger) when I’m looking at my Twitter and I see that COMPLEX MAGAZINE has tweeted the story and when you click on the link you see a picture of Big Baby on the cover of NBA 2K12.
    So you know I had to bring it over here, lol.

  • J-MAC

    Vlade

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I’m still p*ssed at EA for making me play College Hoops 2K8 for like four years in a row.
    And now because their sh*tty college BBall game doesn’t sell, we may not get any college basketball games at all anymore.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I see where you all are coming from. I just feel that Kobe is winning more and being the best on his team doing it. year after year. I know he may not be as deserving i just think it would be a great choice for his career of winning. including a possible (most likely) 3peat this year… whoever said just give him the bill russell, agreed my friend. all that matters.

  • tRay

    2K should take over the NCAA game franchise that would be epic.

  • tonyknorr

    come on slam not this again when is my post going to show up this time. 4 hours from when i posted it. anyways @ Lakeshow sorry homie but the MVP should never be a career achievement award. that line of thought is how Karl Malone screwed Mike out of the award in 98. The whole he has been great for years and his team is winning argument is flawed. Kobe is no where near as valuable to his team as Drose or even Dwight this year. Kobe is great but if you took those two guys off their teams they wouldn’t even make the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    It’s arguable that at this point in Kobe’s career, Gasol is just as, if not more, valuable to the Lakers. Kobe may be the best player on his teamn but it’s not 100% clear who the most valuable player is.

  • Mr. Chill

    @zoom the mvp would be gasol cus Kobe couldn’t win till gasol came to town

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I miss being able to take players from the College Hoops games and drafting them in the NBA 2K games.
    Even though it’d be all messed up most of the time.
    Black players becoming white players and vice versa. LOL

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I agree zoom, and tony you are right, but you see me over here as a kobe fan looking at his half as many as nash MVP shelf and its frustrating. Your right about it shouldn’t be a career award, but he is the best player on a team that i hope anyway will be 3Peating. But yes D Rose and D Wight lol are more valuble to their team for wins.

  • bull22

    i find it funny how many of you claim to be hardcore bulls, yet not sure of yourselves in respects to the BULLS chances. since 2000 every team that has won number one seed has at least made it to east finals. except one TEAM and YES if you dont know it, yours TRULY LAJOKE. number one seed dont guarantee everything, but its a good start for those that actually know this sport.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    mr. chill is bull22 so just ignore him.

  • bull22

    @mr chill, dont waste your time with @zoom, last week he was wearing carmelos drawers, and now this week he is wearing kobe’s drawers…. i guess he is no longer a knicks fan….

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I absolutely believe the Bulls will make the ECF.
    I just don’t belive they’ll win it all. This year.
    And I hope I’m proven wrong.

  • Mr. Chill

    @bull22 lol. That means zoom is a chameleon and changes his colors at the gfirst sign of trouble. @lakeshow I am not bull22 so you need to go to the lake and take a chill pill and quit acting like a retarded chupacabra.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    La Chupacabra? Well, we at least know that Mr. Chill is Mexican.

  • SI44

    Gasol is important, but there is no way in hell he is as valuable as Bryant. I rock w/ the Lakers, and on the real bynum might be getting ready to pass gasol on the importance meter in the grand scheme of things in LA. I just hope KB cedes power better than Shaq did when the roles were reversed.

  • bull22

    lakeshow, you are another one i have never talked with, i will be polite this time and just say no iam not two users. is that what you fifteen yearolds do??????? be a couple of users.. thats pretty stupid…

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    @Mr. Chill – Que onda, paisa! LOL

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    @ Simple Jack aka bull22: Try putting together a coherent thought before addressing me, ok kiddo? Now run along and don’t forget to put your helmet on when you leave the house.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    So will Greg Monroe have to wear a different jersey number in the second half tonight?

  • http://slamonline.com zoom

    They have won without Bynum. They’ve never won without Gasol. Kobe has played poorly and they’ve still won. The same cannot be said of Gasol.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I swear it’s getting worse and worse.

  • Mr. Chill

    @Bryan Crawford, that is being a little racial don’t you think? Your sterotyping me as a Mexican when I could be of a differnt nationality.
    @Enigmatic, que pasa!!!!!
    @si44, Kobe getting played out, if he would of shut his mouth a while back, him and Shaq would of dominated the league and have 6 rings by now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Sometimes, I feel that Bull22 and Reggie are distant cousins – they both spew their gibberish and really believe they’re Hubie Freakin Brown, always feel the need to reflect on their “glorious” past and think that everyone else is a teenager. At least Reggie could hit a shot or two and chase after married women!

  • http://bulls.com airs

    the comments now are like, you know when you’re watching the game, chillin with friends and having a good time…
    and then your 10 year old niece comes in with her friends from school and want to play dance dance revolution and interrupt the game, and you oblige to let them have their fun? yeaah.
    sigh.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Chill, Mr. Chill…
    You’re being ridiculous.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    co-sign both airs and AllenP.
    I’m just gonna take a page out of Eboy’s book and assume it’s kids that would normally be in school.
    Spring Break, maybe?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    what happened here? when did slamonline become a daycare?

  • tonyknorr

    @ Lakeshow I hear ya. From a Kobe fans perspective it has to suck knowing that steve nash and tim duncan and lebron james have all won more mvp awards during the same era as kobe. However, I am from vancouver island and therefore have an extreme steve nash crush so I feel absolutely no remorse for those who didn’t win mvp during Steve’s years. sorry bro lol. Steve is the man!! I respect Kobe a lot but I still hate it when undeserving players win the MVP award. this isn’t a shot at Kobe but I still think Chris Paul should have one MVP a couple of years back. Come to think of it I guess I am just biased against swingmen because from a coaching standpoint the 1 and the 5 positions are usually the most pivotal to having a great team. The only time I give respect to swingmen in the MVP debates is when there numbers are so staggering you can’t ignore them. e.g. Mike or Lebron.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @tonyknorr, that kind bias is very reason why in the NFL only QB’s and RB’s regularly win the MVP award. Imagine how wack it would be if only a PG or a C won the MVP in the NBA every year.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    No center currently playing in the NBA, with the exception of Dwight Howard, MAYBE Andrew Bynum, and obviously Shaq, should EVER be MVP.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Oh, and got my MJ ’98 ASG Mitchell and Ness jersey in the mail the other day.
    It’s so swaggerific!
    Thanks, SLAM!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Demarcus Cousins if he ever got his head right, could dominate the NBA and win the award under the right conditions. I don’t think it would be a landslide or anything, whatever team he would be on would have to come out of nowhere, like OKC last year, but if he averaged like 24, 12, 3 assists, and a block he could win it. (not saying it will even come close, but he’s got the potential and skillset)

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Anyone else been playing this CBS Franchise game on FaceBook?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I got my jacket the other day too. It was nice, although it’s not in my size. I might use it as a bribe to encourage the boys in my church youth group to get more serious about their bible scholarship.
    The little action figure is cool too. My little boy is fiending to play with it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    My work has banned facebook do to the mentally challenged opening and downloading stuff they shouldn’t.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Allen, there’s still B Diddy fans in NO?

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Its pretty addicting. They have seemingly every player on there, even one year pros from like the 80′s etc.
    Right now my starting 5 are Dajaun Wagner, Roddy Buckets, Marvin Williams, Chris Andersen and Desagana Diop.
    Its tough to get good players unless its in the draft. If any of you guys have time try it and let me know what you think.

  • tonyknorr

    @ B Crawford and Enig. I hear you guys and your right. My logic for MVP is definitely flawed It is just so hard to fight sometimes because I grew up watching a lot of dominant pg and centers. Hakeem, stockton, Robinson, Zeke, Shaq etc. That being said those guys lost out on a lot of MVP’s because of a certain GOAT swingman. These days though outside of Dwight it is hard to make an MVP case for any other Bigs in the League. Although Pau and Dirk and even KG are all pretty important to their teams just not league MVP important.

  • tonyknorr

    and Timmy D. by the way when can we start thinking of him as the spurs center this year cause really thats what he is. he is still their anchor on defense when they decide to play D and he is their primary post player on O. All that says center to me.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    @tonyknorr – Pau, Dirk and KG are not centers, though.
    @AllBall – Man, I get depressed when I think about Dajuan Wagner. I’ve always been kind of good at projecting which high school players are gonna be an NBA star, and I told everyone who would listen to me that Juanny was gonna be a great one…. :(

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Did I miss the mention of the Lakers being 16 and 1 since the all star break? Are they still finished guys? How is Kobe playing?

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    ‘Matic, get on FB and revive the man’s career. I got him in the draft because I needed some scoring (Each team has 4 basic ratings, scoring, passing, defense, rebounding).

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I said when everyone was saying they were “done” that they would finish the season a huge run. I believe I said about 20 and 4 to finish the season.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    AllBall, I stopped effing with FB since all my boys and fam from back home basically stopped talking to me on there.
    Out of sight, out of mind, I guess.
    Rat bastards.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Haha, sorry, but that made me laugh.
    I don’t have my own, I’m actually creating a Dynasty on my girls account. If anyone jumps on it (including you) let me know, and we can get a little league going. Rivalry games (against FB friends) give you extra points!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    LMAO^

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I’ll check it out if I ever get the internet back in my house, cause right now we just using the iphone and the FB app on there sucks for games and all that.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Cool, Allen, you want some of this? My crew is 68-9.

  • tonyknorr

    @ Enig thats why I referred to them as bigs not centers. although that may not have been apparent due to my poor sentence structure or grammar. Co-sign the Dajuan Wagner stuff. Back when he dropped 100 in a single game and was a common feature in Punks I used to tell everyone that he was going to be a better scorer than AI. Oops. :(

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Wagner learned how to score from AI, and put up 100 in a HS game, a lot of people thought he was gonna be the next iverson

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    After his rookie season, I told myself he’d do much better his second season.
    I thought Wagner and LeBron were gonna lead Cleveland to a title together.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    He had weight and injury issues didn’t he? Plus I heard he had no interest in working on anything off of the basketball court, like conditioning, strength training, that sort of thing.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    He had Ulcerative Colitis.
    Not sure what the hell that is but sounds painful as hell…

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I’m about to google it Enig.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Aw man, it’s a form of inflammatory bowel disease.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    The name of it almost sounds similar to the flesh-eating disease in the movie “Cabin Fever”

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    LMAO.
    Great detective work, Phantom.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Kobe for MVP.
    Derrick Rose for MIP.
    Dwight for DPY
    JWall for ROY

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