Wednesday, April 27th, 2011 at 8:57 am  |  230 responses

Post Up: Rise and Shine

Kobe lifts Lakers to Game 5 win; Bulls advance.

Chicago 116, Indiana 89

It took five games, but the Chicago Bulls finally imposed their will and crushed any and all belief that the Indiana Pacers could actually hang with them. The first four games were tough—both physically and mentally—and really could have gone either way, but when it came time to close the series out, Chicago not only did so in convincing fashion, but in the manner in which led them to 62 regular season wins.

The offense was crisp and the defense, suffocating. By the time Indiana figured out how deep of a hole they were in, the Bulls were already kicking dirt on top of them. A lot of credit should be given to Indiana because of the way that they fought in the series, but when it counted the most, they didn’t fight hard enough.

Derrick Rose led the Bulls past the first round in the Playoffs (an inevitability), making it one less thing that his detractors, or those who feel like he’s been getting a little too much attention this season, can use against him now. He came out like a man on a mission, sprained ankle be damned, and shredded the Pacers defense all night. Whether it was shooting the jumper or attacking the rim, this time, Indiana had no answers. He was not going to be stopped.

Rose also got help from Joakim Noah—whose grandfather flew all the way from Cameroon to see him play in his first NBA game—Luol Deng, Keith Bogans (Carlos Boozer, where are you?), and the notorious “Bench Mob.” All played extremely well and finally looked like the capable supporting cast that Bulls fans know they can be.

The first round was a test and Chicago passed it. Now, the second round awaits. Something Bulls fans haven’t been able to say for a long time. —Bryan Crawford (@_BryanCrawford)

Orlando 101, Atlanta 76

The Magic finally clicked from start to finish, turning a potential elimination game into a blowout victory. The first quarter set the tone as the Magic limited the Hawks to 13 points on 3 of 19 field goals despite Dwight Howard playing only six minutes due to two early fouls.

The Magic found their outside shot, as they hit 11 of 26 threes (42.3 percent) compared to 21 of 96 (21.9 percent) entering Game 5. JJ Redick provided a huge boost off the bench, scoring 14 points on 6 of 8 shooting, but surprisingly attempting zero three-point field goals.

After Jamal Crawford and Joe Johnson scored 25 and 20 points, respectively, in Game 4, they combined for 13 points on 4 of 20 field goals in Game 5. After missing the previous game due to suspension, Jason Richardson scored 17 points on 6 of 14 field goals, including 3 of 6 from beyond the arc.

While Orlando dominated from start to finish, Howard had an uncharacteristically quiet game. He scored 8 points on 1 of 4 shooting and grabbed 8 boards. Who would have thought that the Magic would lose a game in which Howard recorded 46 points and 19 rebounds, but would decisively win a game in which he totaled 8 and 8?

The Hawks lead the series 3-2 and have a second chance to eliminate the Magic on Thursday in Game 6 at Philips Arena. —Tracy Weissenberg

L.A. Lakers 106, New Orleans 90

Oh, who were you kidding?

This Hornets mini-run, scare-like thing was fun while it lasted. These are the sort of flings the Lakers have when they’re bored in the suburbs, want to scare their dad, want to dance all night until they feel alive, etc. etc. etc.

But it’s over now. The Lakers have to get a real job to pay rent. They outclassed the Hornets last night, winning 106-90.

A reporter asked Pau Gasol if they were making a concerted effort to play physically, to fight for rebounds with some actual zeal.

“We should do that all the time,” he said.

I should get my taxes in on time all the time. I should have a salad instead of two bags of Skittles all the time. Etc. etc. etc. Work, work, work.

There are people in this press conference room saying things like, “The Hornets crumbled like a stale…” Then they’re naming a food product.

Har-dee-har-har.

No, they didn’t.

The Hornets are one great player, Chris Paul—a shining, beautiful light buzzing gracefully, or whatever; he’s probably the best player in the playoffs—and he’s surrounded by a bunch of complete horses**t cap fillers. Their second-best player tonight was the fifth or sixth-best player on the Lakers when they won the Finals two years ago. Their third-best player was cast off the Raptors in a hurry before training camp ended so he wouldn’t mess up the promising young career of Alexis Ajinca.

Kobe only played 28 minutes. The first eight were very, very sketchy. But 20 minutes of a good, semi-bipedal Kobe Bryant is better than 48 minutes of any Hornet not named Chris Paul.

It’s unfair to Chris Paul to say this team crumbled. This team is barely a playoff team held up on one beam at the middle, and that’s exactly what their record says.

You could say the coaching was a wash, too, for three quarters. Then there was 7:22 left, the Hornets were down by 15, and Chris Paul still wasn’t back in the game. I don’t care what sort of perfect Princeton/Triangle combo you might be running. That doesn’t work. Monty Williams didn’t manage his only player correctly tonight and he was their only chance.

“There was more of a focus to be physical tonight. I know you guys saw it. A lot of it was… not basketball,” said Williams. “Our guys are going down when he goes to the basket.”

Yeah, because the Lakers finally decided to play like the team that they are.

They asked Kobe about the physicality afterwards. Kobe, the one with the sprained ankle, laughed.

“All this talk about his ankle—did it look like his ankle was hurting? Okay, then. That’s why I don’t get into all of it,” said Williams. “It is what it is.”

Don’t ruin our fling, Monty. Don’t get bitter. What we had was beautiful, but we have to move on, etc. etc. etc. —Ben Collins

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  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I know they have set plays, I also know Kobe ignores them. Calling me statboy is pretty funny, especially considering there is no possible way you watch/read/study more NBA then I do. I can have this conversation with you without using stats but that opens you up to use your opinion which doesn’t lead to anything but arguing. Accept that stats are facts, your opinion is 100% less relevant. Phil Jackson will readily tell you Kobe ignores the offense, infact, google it.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    And since when is Jarret Jack the Hornets’ third best player?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    They are great, but Matt Barnes is not much worse a defender, a better shooter, hustles more, and rebounds better, especially on offense. In this conversation considering Ron Artest wouldn’t change anything about the Lakers status as favorites, but losing Bynum or Gasol or Kobe would so there’s no reason to include him. This all started with me saying I would rather have Pau and Bynum then Kobe – which isn’t going to change, they are clearly more important together then Kobe is by himself. Save for a single possession where you need a miraculous shot, i’ll take the other 47 minutes and 36 seconds, thank you very much.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    It was obvious from the get go that Kobe’s injury wasn’t real. Yes he rolled his ankle, everybody who has played basketball knows that it happens a lot without resulting in a sprain or other type of injury. You simply walk it of for a couple of minutes and then you are good to go. Watch the end of Game 4 where he rolled the ankle. Kobe walks it of for a couple of minutes, goes to the bench gets brief treatment. And then is back in the game, where he at the end of the game he plays like there is no problem. On that drive where Pau fumbled his pass, he clearly explodes with all his weight onto the ‘injured’ foot on his bricked 3 he gets very good lift. Kobe rolled his ankle, he didn’t get injured. Him coming out on crutches (very PP like) and refusing to have an MRI + really comment on what is going on apart from ‘I’ll play’ and keeping everybody in the dark is just Kobe feeding his favorite pet The Hypemonster. Now all Kobe-fans have an excuse when he plays well and we all see how a winning 19-point performance like last night’s is suddenly labeled legendary, great and tough etc etc… When really for Kobe’s usual high standards it should be labeled sub-par. Before having another sip of my hate-slushie let me just add that the dunks were freaking great.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ nbk: Do you think the Lakers, with this current roster, could make the WCF without Kobe Bryant? They might be able to be the Hornets but the Lakers without Kobe aren’t making it past the second round. Kobe is still the man on this team no matter how many boneheaded plays he makes. Also, Gasol’s play has been pretty underwhelming these playoffs. He’s routinely shut down by Aaron Gray (when Gray actually sees floor time).

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Diesel, saying that losing 3 games to the Hawks and 3 games to the Lakers is in any way similar is a huge reach, come on now.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Uhm no, but I don’t think they would get out of the first round without Gasol and Bynum. If they would even make the playoffs.

  • J Dilla

    Trust me when I say this, I am not a Kobe lover at all, I didn’t like how he sold out his team in that Phoenix Suns series, when he took like 2 shot in the second half to prove a point to Phil. However, I do recognize that he has that killer instinct that set him apart from most player. He is not afraid to take that last second shot, when most guys run from it…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    And, the Magic have a lot more talent than the Hornets. The Magic are also more talented than Atlanta, where as the Hornets are inferior talent wise to the Lakers. As nbk said, CP is so clearly the best post season player so far, it is almost not worth discussing. I would not have mentioned it again had BC not disputed it.
    It is interesting how Bulls fans are the ones undermining his play.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Doesn’t make him any better at it then anyone else. Kobe is probably 5th on my give the ball to him on the last possession list. 5th, and all 4 of the guys I would put ahead of him aren’t afraid either. Chris Paul, Dirk, Paul Pierce, Carmelo. All more efficient, more effective/productive, less selfish in the closing seconds.

  • Bruno

    so you would give the ball to Dirk instead of Kobe, that’s it for the post up today

  • J-MAC

    LZ–dang man you really thought about that one. And no he wasnt faking some guys roll their ankle like did and are out for a few games. Its not Kobe “hyping” it up I would say its the media the same way with DRose. The only difference is Kobe didnt get the MRI. BTW Orlando could very easily win 2 more games…then does that make him the best indivual player in the playoffs?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Raise your hand if your opinion of Dirk is based on reputation…. Raise your hand if you really think Kobe’s ankle is hurt….. (speaking of, they showed Kobe and Derek Fisher walking into he game yesterday, Kobe was not limping until he looked up and saw the camera. Believe what you want

  • Bruno

    I’m not talking about any ankle or reputation or limping, you just said that with the game on the line last possession you’d give the ball to Dirk before Kobe

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    yes I would, because Dirk is better.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And that’s not a “I think Dirk is better with the game on the line” that’s Dirk is better, fact.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    I agree with BC’s 3:20 comment that the playoffs are about teams, I also agree that in 10 years nobody will remember whether Paul had a treb-doub, ROse scored 40 or Dwight averaged 15 rebs or whatever remarkable individual performance we will see in the coming month. We will however remember who won and what teams prevailed. However one shouldn’t completely downplay the individual performance aspect. BC says that ‘nobody will care what they did.’ not completely true as the owners (who pay the players) will remember perfectly well who did what, the other players (who openly lobby to be on certain teams) will remember perfectly well, and we the fans (who make this whole NBA machinery run) will most certainly remember perfectly well. The playoffs is all about the teams no doubt, but let us not pretend that the individual performances don’t have a lot of say on the current and future basketball landscape. Btw BC I didn’t post this to start some arguement with you (us going back and forth is getting quite old don’t you agree…), just posting my opinion which is slightly different from yours so please holster the ‘foreigner’-pistols and let us all stick to basketball.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Actually the ankle part was for everyone who wants to applaud Kobe’s performance last night as anything special. He is clearly healthy enough to do what he was before he rolled his ankle, I don’t at all get playing this he played on one ankle bs. I am just annoyed that people think Kobe’s ankle injury is even remotely serious if it was he would not have denied it being examined.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Switch Kobe and Dirk.
    The Mavericks are legitimate title threats and the Lakers are a fun story about two soft seven footers who can’t get it done in the playoffs.
    And I’m a Mavs fan.

  • J-MAC

    Nic–Thats real

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    And hey you know whcih player I would give the ball to create the gamewinner. Not Kobe, Not Melo, Not Paul, Not PP, Not Drik. The answer: Jamal Crawford however if the question was ‘hit’ and not ‘create’ I would answer Ray Allen. But the ball at the top of the key with one possesion to go and behind by 1,2 or 3 points, no doubt in my mind: Jamal Crawford.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Fa real? Who would dallas have as their 4? And how would they be title threats? Who would guard PG’s? Please they would not be any better if you switched the two, that team is tailored for Dirk.

  • Bruno

    so just because you think that Dirk is better, now it’s a fact ok … let’s catch the post up tomorrow

  • JTaylor21

    Nick, come on son stop it. The Mavs aren’t winning a chip with KB nor are they winning it with Dirk.
    Everyone knows that the reason why the Lakers have been to 3 straight finals and won two of them is their bigs. No team in the L can matchup with LO/Bynum/Pau, those guys are the biggest reason for LA’s recent run.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    J-MAC, no it would not. Orlando should have beat ATL in less than 7. Dwight had his worst game last night, yet it was the Magic’s best game. See the correlation? CP has been remarkable this post season, historically so.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    I didn’t say they would win, I said they are threats.
    Tyson Chandler is athletic enough to guard many 4s and Haywood can guard the 5. Shawn Marion can guard the 4.
    Who is guarding PGs for the Mavs now?
    If anything, having KB24 on PG and JKidd on SG is an upgrade.
    I’m not sayin you trade them straight up and everything is fine because obviously other personnel would have to change on both squads.
    But if you don’t think Kobe would make improve your favorite team, you are lying to yourself.

  • J Dilla

    Put the stats aside,let’s b eyewitnesses for minute. You would seriously take Dirk over Kobe to take the last second shot. Dirk can’t create his owe shot like Kobe could.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    AllBall – Dwight has the worst supporting cast of any team left in the playoffs. And I’m not downplaying what CP3 has done. You’re just overhyping it because you love your team, which is fine, but your wrong. You said something along the lines of “if CP3’s game 1 and 4 were great, then all other performances this year were just good”. I’m just trying to take the level headed approach and say slow down…Dwight’s 46 & 19 followed by 33& 19 were just as impressive. Rondo going for a triple double with 15 points, 20assists, and 11 boards is just as impressive. I won’t even mention another player that deserves to be mentioned for fear that the dumbest kid on this site might call me a Rose peddler. CP3 had 2 great games that resulted in wins, but then he had 3 so-so games that resulted in loses. Why is it crazy to say that Dwight, who’s had 4 great games and only 1 so-so game, is just as impressive? Is that really considered a knock on CP3 to say Dwight’s just as impressive this postseason?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Bruno you think Ima say something is a fact if I can’t prove it? How often do I do that? 4th Quarter or Overtime with less then 5 minutes left with neither team up by more then 5 points, the leaders in +/- are Mo Williams (only played in 11 close games this season), then Marion, Nowitzki, Kidd, Chandler, all at +40. Kobe Bryant comes in for the season (38 games) at +13. So Dirk’s team is clearly better in the clutch. Dirk shoots .458% in these situations, Kobe shoots .402%. Dirk makes 89% of his Free Throws, Kobe makes 87%. Kobe played 10 more minutes in this situation total, Kobe shot roughly 15 more shots per 48 minutes. Scored only 8 more points in the same time frame. – Dirk is better in every way but 3pt% but doesn’t attempt nearly as many, 2.6 per 48 to 11.3 – what else would you like to argue?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Dirk can get a better shot then Kobe the majority of the time. FIrst because Dirk is 7 feet tall and is a mismatch with 99% of the league. 2nd, because Dirk is a willing passer in the closing minutes/seconds so the opposing defense must still pay attention to the entire team, Kobe is selfish. and 3rd, because Dirk shoots a better % everywhere on the court inside the 3pt line. SO unless you have to have a 3 I will take Dirk in every end of game situation.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Diesel, Orlando’s supporting cast are as good if not better than the NO. Paul>Nelson Richardson>Marco Ariza>Turk Landry>Bass Howard>Mek
    Orlando’s bench>Hornet bench. Well call it a wash lol. In those two games Dwight averaged around 8 turn overs, although Rondos game was dope, CP had a triple double with a lesser (lot lesser) supporting cast.
    20 points, ten assists, 5 rebounds, 50 percent shooting from field and 3 point line is sub par Diesel?
    It is not a knock on CP, it is just inaccurate to say Dwight has been as impressive.

  • J Dilla

    I can agree with that, but i thought u were talking about taking the last shot, we all know Kobe is very selfish. I going with Kobe to escape the double team,hit or miss the shot. Dirk might not be able to get a shot off. I know u remember what Golden State did putting the claps on him…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Diesel Dwight has played great against certain players, and porous against others. Jason Collins and Zaza Pachulia have been bother Dwight all series. Al Horford, Josh Powell and whoever else have been absolutely dominated. Chris Paul has been efficient against every defender the Lakers have thrown at him. eww this conversation sucks, Chris Paul is clearly the best player in the playoffs, he’s on the least talented team, doesn’t have his second best scorer, is playing against the defending champs and has made it look like they have a chance, when they really don’t. Dwight is playing great against a team they beat by a record margin last season, and it isn’t helping his team win. The 3pt line is more valuable to the magic in this series then Dwight Howard. (it shouldn’t be that way, but it is)

  • feez22

    @diesel Cp3 doesn’t get credit for the lakers bigs playing like crap. he gets credited for absolutely owning the lakers and winning 2 games with a team that people thought would be swept. Besides… chris is grabbing .2 less rebounds than pau gasol and has so far crossed up & owned every single laker big that tries to hedge the screens… he’s making it really difficult for the lakers to defend the hornets because his paint passes are so close to the rim that the receiver has a higher chance of making the shot. not to mention his scoring and being the best player in the series… ya i said it. so ya… chris is getting the credit he deserves. People tell me all the time that point guards abuse the lakers. they may be right… however when you are letting this point guard go 24-11-6.4 on 55% shooting… well… i won’t call that an ordinary beatdown. there is probably only 1 other pg that can own the lakers like paul has been doing and that is D-Will to a bit of a lesser extent. d-will is a hell of a player thats for sure. i mean for christ sakes… chris paul is the first player to ever record a triple double against the lakers in the playoffs… & that triple double was the first of its kind since ’64… tbh cp is not getting enough credit. no legit scoring wing threat (ariza has played well the last 2 games but he hasnt been consistent the whole series), no d-west(which means no legit every time down big man that can score) yet the hornets still win & stay competitive against the talented lakers. not enough credit is being given tbh… w/e…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I will never want the player that will shoot out of a double team. – And yes I remember what Stephen Jackson did to Dirk in 07 – Do you remember what Kobe did in the playoffs in 2005?

  • JTaylor21

    Nick, after watching CP destroy KB whenever he tries to guard him, you sure you still want him checking PGs?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t understand the logic behind saying Kobe will undoubtedly improve your team if you trade him with your best player. Teams are built around certain guys.. I mean I know that’s true if you take Danny Granger off the Pacer and substitute Kobe Bryant. But if you take Dwight out of Orlando and put in Kobe that team would barely make the playoffs. Infact I got in numerous arguments last season with people saying if you put Kobe on Cleveland they would have won a title. Its a nice little arguing tool to use when your talking to someone who doesn’t know the rotation of every team in the league, but most the people here that comment on the reg aren’t those people. Kobe would make teams better, teams worse, depending on how they are built and who they are built around. Kobe clearly has the highest skill level of any player in the game, but skill is only one aspect of being what people are trying to make him out to be. The athleticism, defensive effectiveness, and overall efficiency have somewhat left Kobe’s game. WHICH IS FINE, it happens to everyone.

  • J Dilla

    Stat Boy u kill me man, u n i both know u would definitely want a guy with the ability to shoot over double team, game situation are not always the same. Trust me u gonna want that guy who can shoot over a double teams when there’s seconds left. Not 10seconds but 5 seconds n down.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    JT, No I think Kobe can get it done defensively when he needs to, but it is not happening every play.
    All I’m saying is he is an upgrade from JKidd checking the point.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t want to be in that situation! what don’t you get about that? I would rather just win. The NBA isn’t the NFL, one game can be lost without it changing a thing. I’d rather win by 20 and lose on the last second every once in a while, then win in close games and lose by 20. And no I don’t want the guy who will shoot over a double team with 5 seconds left, that’s enough time to make 2 passes and get a wide open shot. And if a guy is being double teams with less then 3 seconds on the clock then your passing it in, and you probably have a better option.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Jason Kidd doesn’t guard opposing PG’s. But if you bring in Kobe he would have to. Kobe is not only not a good enough defender to check PG’s, his body can’t handle it, especially for a whole series. (unless its Rondo and he can just rest and float)

  • JTaylor21

    Also would Kobe on the Heat instead of Wade or Bron make them a better team? I doubt it.
    Also for the cat that stated “CP had 3 so-so games that resulted in loses” WHAT? Since when does avg. 20/9 in those 3gms equate into so-so games?
    I had no idea that computers were allowed in an insane asylum.

  • J Dilla

    U want the Bulls team that went 72-10, r u saying u wouldn’t want Jordan on your team?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Are you insinuating Jordan shot over double teams in the closing seconds? Do you not know anything about Jordan’s career? – John Paxson, Steve Kerr. Ring a bell?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    20 & 9 is so-so when that’s basically your season averages and your team needs you to step up your game if they have a chance of winning. Let the grown ups talk…you go back to trying to be witty.

  • J Dilla

    U funny son, let me school u I grew up watching the Great One, I’m from the Go Ill. Yes Jordan did shoot over double teams, we are not talking about the playoffs when Phil told him pass the ball to Paxson because he was open n when Kerr said if they doubled i’ll b ready. When he first came in league Jordan was shooting over triple teams. U can’t tell me nothing about MJ. GO Youtube some highlights, better yet I’ll send u some, I got some on VHS tape…STAT BOy!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    When Jordan first came into the league is irrelevant. WTF why does that even come up? I know all about Jordan’s career dude, I have watched the majority of it. If you want to bring up irrelevant stuff like that then why don’t we just bring up Kobe’s first trip to the playoffs and end this conversation right now. Stat boy, hah is that supposed to be an insult?

  • J Dilla

    STATS STATS STATS STATS… where would u cats b if it wasn’t for the internet. u know u can actually watch a game n c the impact a player has on a game…MUCH LOVE!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    you can’t bring up the 72-10 bulls and then act like its the same Jordan that played from 84-91, that is just downright ridiculous.

  • MJnotKobe

    As I said before, it’s no coincidence that Rose fans are downplaying CP3. Anyone whose favorite player is not a pg named Rose can be objective and admit that his personal play vs the defending champs is incredibly impressive. I just don’t believe any other pg in the league would have the same success if they were on the Hornets instead of Paul. I’m outta here

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