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Tuesday, April 19th, 2011 at 8:50 am  |  271 responses

Post Up: We Can’t Be Stopped

Top seeds in East move ahead 2-0.

Chicago 96, Indiana 90

Not to name drop, but I had the pleasure of watching Game 2 sitting side by side with the one and only Scoop Jackson at the United Center last night. Scoop is my guy, and he’s one of those dudes who you can have a conversation with during a game and not miss any of the action in the process.

Sometime around the middle of the third quarter, after discussing a myriad of topics, we started to talk about players who seem to have a knack for “willing” their team to victory. I won’t give you the list of names that we came up with or who was and wasn’t on it, but I will tell you that it was irrefutable, and Derrick Rose definitely made the cut.

His “will” was on display once again as Chicago found themselves in a similar situation as Game 1, playing from behind against a Pacers team that has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain. And yet despite another valiant effort, Indiana was once again stifled by Rose, his amazing play in the biggest of moments, and by the play of his teammates – specifically Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah – who stepped up and made big plays down the stretch as well.

The Pacers now find themselves down 0-2 in the series and what’s worse, possibly down a starting PG in Darren Collison – injured ankle – as the scene shifts to Indianapolis for Games 3 and 4.

If it isn’t clear by now, Indiana is certainly a lot better than their regular season record suggests. But after giving Chicago their best punches in two consecutive games and still not being able to come away with a victory, I won’t proclaim this series over, but it’s petty damn close. – Bryan Crawford / @_BryanCrawford

Miami 94, Philadelphia 73

The Sixers’ Game 1 loss left them feeling like they could hang with the Heat. Last night’s defeat might have changed their minds.

Chris Bosh, who added a double-double, scored the game’s first points and Miami never looked back. After two quarters, the ice-cold Sixers trailed 49-31. LeBron James bounced back from his poor shooting in Game 1, to shoot 52.6 percent from the field and drop 29 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists. James even put Jrue Holiday in his second poster of the month with a sick second quarter alley-oop.

The Heat, once known for blowing large leads, kept the Sixers at arm’s length throughout the contest with stifling defense. A defense so stifling that it only allowed 29 points from the Sixers’ starting five, including 5 from Andre Iguodala and 3 from Elton Brand.

Dwyane Wade showed little ill-effects from the migraine headaches he suffered over the weekend, as he played 34 minutes and scored 14 points. The Sixers were out-rebounded once again, 46-40. But the free-throw margin was not as wide as Game 1, as the Heat only shot 9 more free throws than Philadelphia.

Thaddeus Young and Evan Turner chipped in 18 and 15, respectively. But Young missed multiple layups due to Joel Anthony’s defensive presence. And Turner was continually torched on the defensive side by Wade and James.

If the Sixers hope to have any chance of winning a game in this series, they will have to shoot better than 34 percent from the field and score more than 8 fast break points. But after two games, it doesn’t look like the Heatles have any intention of letting up. — Cris Jones

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  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Bron had a great 1st half, seemingly making all the right plays until he settled for a jumper during a top of the key isolation. I didn’t watch much of the 2nd half.
    Indiana should win a game in this series. I would not be surprised if they win game 3 by double digits.

  • The Angel of Stern

    joel anthony played some sick D and really increased the energy for the Heat. If only he could become just a little bit useful on offense.

  • dsleepy

    i wouldn’t be surprised either, they have looked good even though they’ve lost. is this a cause for concern if you’re a CHI fan? being a #1 seed and – apart from Rose – not being able to truly impose your will on the #8

  • Mvp23100

    I love Joel Anthonys effort his hands are horrible but the hustle and energy he brings to the team is worth him getting some minutes

  • riggs

    i used to HATE joakim noah and now i only dislike him. Carlos boozer on the other hand…

  • SpursFan

    The Chicago/Pacers game was closer then 6 points.

  • Fat Lever

    Nothing to say as a Sixer fan. We got outclassed by the better team. It’s true, the Sixers have to pitch a perfect game in order to have any hope of winning a game. Forget this loss, come back home, and start game 3 like they started game 1. Sixers are a better home team. Game 3 should resemble game 1, hopefully with a different outcome.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Another big game by Rose, another futile effort by the refs. As a Bulls-fan I’m very happy with the outcome but the NBA really needs to do something about this, the Pacers was shanked throughout the game, Rose was getting all calls, it is becoming too obivious that the powers that be has an agenda and/or the refs are simple too intimidated by the superstar players.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    *simply

  • Ryan

    Agree wuth the angel of stern, anthony is like a defensive minded udonnis. The heat all the way bwoi!

  • Mvp23100

    The pacers are showing the bulls are pretenders they got that 1seed but the Heat or Celts are coming out the east

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    BC, I disagree. The Pacers know they can play with the Bulls. If, after the hard fought game 1, they got blown out last night, it would be different.
    Back in Indy the calls will differ slightly, and that may be enough for Indiana to win game 3. Before this series started I would have said steal game 3, but an Indiana win right now would clearly not be a steal.
    The Heat/Sixers series is as good as over. Philly gave Miami their best shot in game 1, lost, then got blown out in game 2. They may get a split at home, but it is over as soon as it gets back to South Beach. After 3 days of games Miami have probably looked like the best team.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    IDK MVP23, the Pacers would have been a tough out for any team…..And besides the Bulls have done what they are suppossed to do thus far, they are leading 2-0

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Michael Wilbon wrote an article today on ESPN comparing Rose’s exploits with Michael Jordan’s. Derrick Rose has officially jumped the shark….and he didn’t even write it.

  • andre anglais

    It doesn’t matter if they don’t win a game this series, I get the feeling that basketball is back in Indiana. Conseco (is it still called that? I haven’t watched a Pacers game since they last mattered) will berocking in game 3

  • T-Money

    a win is a win is a win, right? however, chicago has done nothing to dispel the hunch i’ve had for a while: they don’t have another gear. besides derrick rose (who’s playing absurd ball right now), none of their guys can truly elevate his game. they ran through the league because thibs’ team was just more prepared and intense than most but everybody is super intense in the playoffs (i.e. aj price’s hustle play in the 4th). their offense is out of sorts right now and you never know from game to game who else can give you 15+. that’s a problem. and indiana is not that good, seriously.

  • T-Money

    i mean they were hanging with chicago with aj price, paul george, danny “black hole” granger, ty hansbrough and roy hibbert. let’s be real here, that is garbage talent for the playoffs.

  • Fat Lever

    And by the way, if as a commentator, you don’t know or watch the team you’re telecasting for, please keep the talking about the squad to a minimum. This goes out to Reggie Miller.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I still say that the Bulls are good enough to get past either the Hawks or the Magic (in some form of a 6 or 7 game series) but will struggle with either Boston, Miami or NY because those teams aren’t reliant on one guy for offense. The Cavs comparisons aren’t going to go away anytime soon unless Rose’s brilliance can beat 4 teams in a 7 game series. The Bulls look average against the worst team in the playoff picture. That’s not a good look…..except for Derrick and his continued excellent play.

  • Nella

    1. Dick Stockton and CWebb should never do a broadcast together. It was terrible. Senile and rambling don’t mix. 2. Boozer is starting to worry me. He looks like he is one bad play from imploding or picking up a technical, specifically with “Psycho T” bothering him.

  • bull22

    this is the tough series that i predicted regardless of how many games this series will go because its division rivals. indiana has excellent talent, this club will move into the 47 to 50 win column next season….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Heat haven’t looked like they’ve exerted much effort yet. They just match up well with Philly. I’ll be impressed if they close out with a sweep and get rest. They haven’t done nothing impressive to me.

  • JoeMaMa

    Indiana was a Darren Collison injury from tying this up. AFter he went down Chicago went on, I believe, a 15-1 run. The Bulls should feel lucky for winning Game 2. Bulls in 6.

  • T-Money

    Rose was second on my proverbial MVP ballot behind Dwight but I’m comfortable with him winning it. I’d give him MIP too. And first team All-NBA. But now I’m hearing best player in the league, revolutionizing the pg spot, and people are throwing MJ’s name around? Word? It’s to the point where people are not even mentioning stuff that doesn’t fit the narrative. He shot an airball with less than a minute to go and fouled an atrocious 3-point shooter. He had 6 TOs and shot 11-25 and we’re talking MJ.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Indiana had 41 bench points last night. Chicago had something like 23. Granger was the only starter in double figures and the only other double digit scorer was AJ Price. It happens like that sometimes.
    They’re also a much better team than the Sixers in my opinion.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I agree with T-Money. I have read several times that Chi were winning because of effort and preparation, and that during the play-offs, every team is prepared, every team plays extremely hard.
    Do the Bulls have enough talent?
    In fairness, Enigmatic has said all year they are another scorer (preferably a 2) away from being a Championship team.

  • bull22

    new coach frank vogel 20-16 over the last 36 games of the season, their team got better towards the end of the season as they got quality wins. NOBODY in the NBA that has heart or drive is giving you a series as a gift….
    everyone who apparently has not been following the bulls a long time does not understand this franchise hates chicago with a passion…..

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Indiana were 20-18 with Vogel as Head Coach, and they clearly believe they can win this series.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Indiana were 20-18 with Vogel as Head Coach, and they clearly believe they can win this series.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Whether the believe it or not doesn’t matter, AllBall. They won’t.

  • Mvp23100

    @Royal
    True the W is what counts this time of year The Pacers are a blue collar team that comes to play but like someone else said I’m waiting for the 1seed to go into that next gear and it seems they don’t have it in the trenches Rose might be going to war alone I don’t believe in Boozer at all and they will need him to be Robin because Deng isn’t it

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    “They’re also a much better team than the Sixers in my opinion” Everyone LOL at Bryan Crawford now. It was just a few days ago that he said (right here in this comment section) that a team with 37 wins shouldn’t even be IN the playoffs, let alone have a #1 seed so powerful as the Bulls, waste their sweat on them in a series.

  • bull22

    the pacers can believe what they want, they will not win this series. but i admire their effort, they remind me of the hawks and bulls teams that pushed the number 1 and 2 seed to seven games. MJ put it best, you can believe you can beat a team, but doing it is another matter entirely..

  • Nella

    I don’t think Indy’s gonna take more than a game off the Bulls, but I can see after last night why they still think they can win. I can respect that. They play hard, and hustled on D. As a Bulls fan, its the same thing we do. We just have D Rose, and thats been the difference.

  • Fat Lever

    Bryan, you do realize that the bench numbers the Pacers put up last night, the Sixers bench has essentially put up all season? And after a 3-13 start, the Sixers were 38-28, which equates to a 47 win season. The Pacers are a mediocre team that matches up well with Chicago. The Sixers are a slightly better than mediocre team that cannot match up with Miami. If the roles were reversed, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Sixers stole a game against Chicago, but Indiana would definitely, in my opinion, be down 0-2 to Miami. It’s all about matchups. The Sixers are a better team than Indiana.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Eboy, I was judging them ON THEIR RECORD. Outside of when they played the Bulls, I haven’t actually WATCHED the Pacers. Who does? I think that also underscores the dangers of merely looking at stats and records and drawing conclusions based on those things, but that’s another story…
    My initial statement had nothing to do with the Bulls being “powerful” at all. Chicago beat them up all season, except for the game that Vogel coached them, the game that they won. I also said that I expect them to get a game and what I’m saying now after watching them play is that they’ve impressed me. I mean, that’s legal in America right?

  • MLK4Life

    The Bulls need an OJ Mayo type of guy to pair with DRose. Someone who can handle the ball and get their own shot. I’m sure they’ll look into that during the offseason. If they get that, sorry Heat fans, the Bulls will interrupt your little party and win a few championships. DRose’s season speaks for itself. There’s no need to talk about who’s the best player or the best PG. LeBron is the best talent. Kobe’s the most skilled. DRose is the most unique player. Add in the fact that he’s only 22 and can still get better. Scary thought. The MJ comparisons need to stop though. Two different players. Two different positions.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Co-sign AllBall.
    The Miami “Kingsmen” a.k.a. the Heat are the best team in basketball at this moment.

  • Fat Lever

    And for reference, the Sixers were 2-1 against Chicago. Indiana was 1-3 against Chicago. Like I said, it’s all about matchups.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Eboy
    I remember. I so remember that comment. The Pacers were bottom feeders, now they are more talented than the Sixers. Really son? We’re doing that sort of rationalizing now? Lol.
    T-Money
    Man, I agree with you on the rest of the Bulls. Derrick Rose is amazing. The rest of those cats, not so much. Indiana wasn’t getting any calls. None. And Danny Granger is ridiculously useless as your team’s best scorer. Dude can play, but he can’t play like that.
    Andre Igoudala is playing like a straight punk. That’s why the Sixers continue to struggle. If he would actually join the series, they might have a chance to push the Heat.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    No, Fat Lever. I didn’t know that. But I also don’t watch the Sixers or pay attention to them either. And I’m on record as saying that Indy would win a game. I never predicted a sweep.
    And I don’t believe that the Sixers are better than Indiana, but that’s just my opinion.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I was actually more impressed with Dallas after their first game played. They looked the most solid to me.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Bryan
    So why would you argue so adamantly a position based on the one thing you claim to despise more than anything in the world, stats?
    Come on son.
    Everybody told you the Pacers could ball, me in particular, and you kept repeating that if they were any good they would have more than 37 wins. Despite the information that they were much, MUCH better after their coaching change.
    So, either you staked out a position and refused to consider any information that contradicted that position, or you’ve flip flopped completely now that the Bulls have not absolutely crushed a team of “bottom feeders.”
    Those are the only options.

  • Fat Lever

    You’re entitled to your opinion. But not sure how you can draw a conclusion that the Pacers are better than the Sixers, when you admittedly “don’t watch the Sixers or pay attention to them either”.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Like I said Allen, that’s the danger of judging people by their stats and records without actually watching. Something that you and a lot of cats on here LOVE to do.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I remember that comment, because it was a discussion between me and BC. BUT, who really saw the Pacers playing them THIS tough.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    if you’ve watched the bulls all season, the way theyre playing should not surprise you at all. people have jumped on the bandwagon and seen the 62 win record and assume they’re gonna stomp on everybody in their path. but the truth is, derrick had to take over a lot of those games for the win. and if you look at the numbers across the board, the other players have put up around their season average.
    and derrick’s been doing it all season so how are you gonna say they’re ‘in trouble’ when this is how a lot of their wins have looked like. people are overreacting just a bit, but i will say that the defense has looked a lot different than anything else the bulls have done this postseason. they’ll be fine, i have no doubt about that.

  • http://slamonlie.com nbk

    The sixers look like they should be running around with diapers on. Or blankets over their head. They look scared

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Just the make up of the teams, Fat. I’m watching both of them now in the Playoffs. It’s very easy to draw a conclusion from that, I’d say.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Bryan
    What are you talking about?
    How would you know who I watch? Lol.
    You’ve just admitted to drawing conclusions based on nothing but stats, and now you’re telling everybody else here we’re the ones who do that?
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
    That’s so crazy. I know I watch ball. I know NBK watches a crazy amount of ball. T-Money and Jukai as well. Eboy lives at Heat games. How you gonna say cats don’t watch games, just because YOU didn’t watch games, and still have made outrageous claims.
    That is so hilarious.
    I’m out for a minute, gotta go do work.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    This series follows a pattern of the only Vogel coached Indiana/Chicago game, but lets not act like the Bulls did not win a lot of double digit games against teams like Indiana.

  • T-Money

    allen: the bulls are a better version of last year’s cavs. how much better? we’ll see. / also, lebron may have something to do with iguodala struggling to score – people still don’t really know he can play d.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    BC flip-flops more than John Kerry at Copacabana…

  • Fat Lever

    So, based on your sample size of the playoffs, we can draw the conclusion that the Grizz and NO are among the top teams in the league, and the LAL and Spurs are overrated? So, the regular season doesn’t matter much when evaluating a team’s overall talent. Got it. I still contend that it’s about matchups, but I digress.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    I’ve always said that the Bulls are average on paper. Rose is the mechanism that moves that ship.
    MVP. Best point guard in The League this year.
    And, shout out to A.J. Price. He is proving my guy Josh Boone right. He always said that Price is better than Marcus Williams. Ever since they were in school. Price has come a long way. Pure heart.

  • Nella

    I’d like to see Deng look for his shot a bit more. I know he was trying to slash and get to the line, but I wouldn’t mind him take some 16/17ft jumpers early. It would help space the floor and get him going. Otherwise, we’re gonna be in trouble later. They also need to find Korver early. There were so many times he was open and either Rose/Deng/Boozer were not playing with their heads up, or rotating the ball.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Well, the Spurs are over rated.
    It is clear Indiana matches well with Chicago, and Philly do not match up well with Miami. Having said that, I don’t think that either team (PHI/IND) are much better than the other.
    T-Money, really? I would expect last years Cavs to beat this years Bulls.
    Iguodala is not skilled enough offensively to score consistently against Bron, IMO. When you consider that Bron is probably more athletic than Andre too, it is not surprising he is struggling.

  • MLK4Life

    The Bulls aren’t going to blow everyone out. I’m not surprised by how this series is going. But a win is a win. The fact is that they’re up 2-0. They can beat anyone because they keep you from doing what you want to do offensively on most nights and they have a guy who can and will close games better than any star in the playoffs besides Kobe and DWade.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Phil don’t you dare talk bad about Marcus Williams. That guy was a stud at Uconn, and one of my favourites.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Phil don’t you dare talk bad about Marcus Williams. That guy was a stud at Uconn, and one of my favourites.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I love how some of these cats like to duck and run after they say something absurd, haha.
    Anyway, if anybody here can say that they watched the Sixers and the Pacers in the regular season, then more power to you, because I didn’t. Not unless they were playing the Bulls.
    I called them “bottom feeders” but so what? I judged them on their record and admittedly, that was a mistake. They’re clearly better and I’ve admitted as much.
    But we all know that Allen NEVER says anything erroneous or ridiculous, EVER. One day I’ll be that perfect when I grow up.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    No Fat, now you’re putting words in my mouth.
    @Lz, I’m nothing if not consistent, on a whole lot of things. But I’m glad to know that having a change of opinion is regarded as flip-flopping now. If I stick to a certain stance while being proven wrong, then I’m clearly being stubborn. But if I digress and change my view, I’m a flip-flopper?
    You guys are hilarious.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    BC make sure to send out the memo whenever that happens…

  • Fat Lever

    Everyone outside of Philadelphia is now seeing what we all see about Andre Iguodala. He is a solid wing defender, but is drastically overrated by the media offensively. It’s funny how when you talk to people outside of Philly, they all think Dre is some sort of pseudo-franchise player, when he is the furthest thing from it.

  • ThaWindy

    Pacers played another great game. They knew many of Chicago sets and were able to get in position to get defelction and steals. McRoberts actually got a great charge on Korver becuz he knew the play. Bulls did have a chance to pull away but the Pacers wouldnt go away. Bulls played like robots on so many plays, force feeding players, not reading the D, thats why they had so many TO’s.. PLEASE sit Boozer down. We need at least 23 pts from Deng, he gotta play both sides of the court. If game 1 was a disapointing lost for the Pacers, game 2 has to be a frustrating one. Pacers did everything right and still couldnt get the W.

  • Animalxxx13

    Another fluke victory for the bulls. They will be out in the second round. I can guarantee that.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    BC you are consistent in changing your opinions so they fit your ‘analysis’, preferences and bias that is for sure…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I’m with BC, admitting to being wrong and changing views is not as bad as being stubborn when all the evidence is to the contrary, right?
    BUT, BC, when T-Money tried to go back on his opinion that Mike Miller was Miami’s “saviour” (wrong choice of words, I know), you were adamant that he was flip-flopping. It works both ways.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Lz – That is patently false. I’m very strong-willed in my opinions, yes, but I’m certainly open to changing my views if a strong enough case is made.
    The Pacers have presented a very strong case to not be considered, by me, as “bottom feeders” which I did call them based purely on record and seeing them get crushed by the Bulls 3 times.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    AllBall, that was just me being an a-hole with T-Money about the whole Miami thing. That’s all that was about… Nothing more.
    He and I may not always agree, and I’ve been known to give him a hard time on things like Miami and advanced stats, but I do give him his props at times, and he reciprocates in kind. I can appreciate that.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    AllBall, very true on all points. I agree. I just find that BC has a special knack for changing the criterias so they fit his analysis, preferences and bias. And is in fact very stubborn when it comes to going back on earlier statements. However it might just be me that is wrong, don’t pay as close attention to this comment section as I used to. Unfortunately.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    LONG… LIVE… THE KING.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    lol, Lz, I know what you mean.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    “Gimme dat shi*” -Boozer 3:42 1st qtr. I almost wanted to start logging all his screams but i got tired of it. Pacers do look like a better team than the Sixers. They at least want it more and play with more urgency.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Then that’s just as bad as me saying the Pacers are bottom feeders without actually paying attention to that team, their makeup, or how they play, and just going on what I saw when it was right in front of me and making a judgment soley on that, Lz.
    Pot, meet kettle…

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @JoeMaMa: Agreed. Soon as Darren Collison rolled his ankle on a cameraman, I knew the Pacers wouldn’t be able to steal game 2. Still the Pacers hung tough despite losing their speedy point guard and having some really bad calls by the refs go against them at critical stages in the game. In the end the Pacers have nothing to hang their heads about, because they’re competing and if not for amazing performances by Rose this series is at the very least all knotted up at one game apiece.

  • JTaylor21

    Dude flip flops more than a fish out of water.
    I still don’t know how everyone expects the bulls to get out of the east and play the lakers in the Finals with DRose as their only reliable scorer?
    DRose is good but dude is not good enough to drop 35pts every night especially against the kind of teams the bulls are sure to face from the second round and on.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    “Well, the Spurs are over rated” – Gotta be on the pipe. smh

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    wait, i really am having a hard time remembering what these “tough calls” going against indy were. someone refresh my memory, because i remember aj price yanking derricks arm and getting 3 free throws to pull it to 2.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    JTaylor callinig somebody a flip-flopper is high comedy. Especially considering he says he’s “humble” like DRose in person, yet is the equivalent of an internet gang-banger in the SLAM comment section. Haha, GTFOH with that BS, dude.

  • T-Money

    boozer is going to force me to watch bulls games on mute. seriously. “get in there”, “get out of there”, “gimme that sh-”, “dunk that sh- jo!” and, last but not least, “arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” after every drive.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Cosign Dick stockton and CWebb never doing another broadcast together.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    @jtaylor, as far as saying drose is their only reliable scorer, you’re basing that off of 2 postseason games. TWO.
    deng and boozer are more than capable, however i am more concerned about booz.
    and it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that derrick goes off and does average 30-35, if he has to.

  • T-Money

    i’m not gonna lie: mike miller has been a major disappointment. i still get why riley gave him the money. new york and LA offered him even more money, actually. but it’s just not panning out and he’s played 6 mins in 2 games. he gets injured every game, his TWO thumbs are useless and according to multiple reports he never misses in shootarounds and practices so it’s also mental. thankfully, UD is going through full practices right now so the bench will just have to be Jones/UD/Chalmers/Anthony.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Boozer is bad, but I’m on mute because of CWebb and Dick Stockton…

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Could be BC. Could also be that I make my assumptions based on your comment history. Like I said I don’t pay that close attention to the comment section. But there was a time not too long ago where I paid very close attention indeed. Do I believe you have changed from that time? No I still believe you are that same old stubborn ‘tough Chi-Town semi-gangster that will break down people on the courts or throwing fists’… I could be wrong, but I sincerly doubt it… Some people never grow up, I’ll be waiting for the memo my fellow Bulls’ fan.

  • JTaylor21

    That’s why people should never use a teams RS record against another as reason why said team will win in the playoffs. RS is cool but the playoffs are a different animal.
    Any team that’s reliant on Carlos “Damsel in Distress” Boozer as their second scorer is walking on thin ice.
    Also it looks like people have finally seen what I’ve been saying all along with the DRose hype.
    Just the other night someone had the nerve to say that dude has JKidd vision and MJ athleticism. I mean come on, when has dude ever threaded the needle consistently like JKidd or every came down the lane and banged on DHow like MJ used to on top tier defensive bigs?
    Can we at least wait until the guy is better than CP/DWill before we start comparing him to all-time greats?

  • Feez22

    d-rose needs to avg 38.5ppg to beat the pacers by 4,6 points? the pacers are the 17th ranked defense in the nba. What happens when you have to face a top 5 defense in the nba ECF (OR the 2nd rd if orlando wins which would be something)? Is rose gonna have to drop 50 per game or what?

  • The Angel of Stern

    Lebron should definatly start playing in the post more. Dude is too strong for every 3 in the league. He doesn’t do it with great footwork or finese he just kind of plays bully ball and gets to the rim. Also, his passing out of post ups is insane, seems like everytime he goes down there he gets a good shot for either himself or a teammate.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Popcorn Muscles!

  • ThaWindy

    Dont remember the plays but refs did give the Bulls some game changing calls late. Pacer fans should know.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    This Bulls team reminds me of the Sixers in the 2001 playoffs. Both 1 seeds in the Eastern Conference. Both teams on offense lean heavily on a speedy guard volume shooter who was regular season MVP. Both stopped in the real season by a dominant big man nicknamed Superman. Can you smell what I’m cookin?

  • http://slamonlie.com nbk

    shout out to everyone not to cool to admit they wrong. And ofcourse Phili looks worse then the Pacers, they are intimidated by the Heat, the Pacers, not intimidated by the Bulls. Which also leads someone who just started really watching the two to believe the Pacers are better. Because they are, right now. Talent wise no, potential wise, yes. ill be back in like an hour ya’ll save the criticisms of my opinion till I can defend myself.

  • The Angel of Stern

    also, the ability to post up is one of the things that miami lacks. Chris bosh is mainly a faceup player and besides that there is really noone they can just throw the ball to and let him go to work. Lebron could be that guy.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    i see that Jtaylor, but hey, we didn’t say that sh*t, the media did. im sure you can ask any bulls fan with any sense of perspective and they wouldn’t dare compare him to Mike.
    never trust a bandwagoner, and usually not ESPN

  • roc

    I’m afraid that the bulls coming to Indy will be a turning point for them because it will force them to tighten up the screws a bit on both offense and defense. You can’t judge any team off of one series and say that the bulls couldn’t beat the heat or the celts, those two teams don’t trap or double team point guards and rondo nor bibby stand a chance at guarding Rose. You could put wade or lebron on Rose but that would hurt them offensively having to Chase him all game. Different teams provide different challenges. Plus Noah normally guards Bosh and Boozer can hide on Big Z. My pacers are just a bad match up for the bulls because they force Boozer to defend in space

  • JTaylor21

    “internet gang-banger”, word?
    Says a cat that would firebomb a daycare center if those kids said anything bad about his beloved rose. Carry on, Richard Reid.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m still that dude at heart, Lz… That won’t ever change. And you can also take off the “semi” too. What you see in the comment section is what you get in real life. I’m extremely confrontational if the situation calls for it. That’s just how I roll.

  • MLK4Life

    @IAMORANGE
    The Bulls do remind me of AI’s Sixers in the 2001 playoffs, but there is no dominant big man to stop them. Dwight is dominant but not like Shaq at all and the Bulls will beat them if the Magic make it out of the Hawks series. If the Bulls get to the Finals, there is no dominant big man in the West that they will face.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @JTaylor21: He’s a hypocrite. lol

  • Feez22

    conseco is going to be on fire… it will be the bulls’ first test… even if it is against the pedestrian pacers. The bulls outrebounded the pacers last night by a total of 24 REBOUNDS… 57-23 rebound differential… and they only won by 6. That’s crazy. I haven’t seen something like that in a LONG time. a 24 rebound differential and you can only screech the win out? Before this series, all i read on here is that the pacers lost 3 games by double digits to the bulls and the bulls came back from a huge deficit to almost win. Now the pacers are a good team? they are the 2nd worst team in the playoffs (behind the sixers). tell it like it is. they are below avg.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Was any one else impressed with Paul George defence (and rebounding) last night? Although Rose got his, PG played him tough all night.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Talent wise, Indiana are probably the worst play-off team.

  • T-Money

    if spo is smart, he will finish games vs the bulls with bibby, wade, jones, james, bosh. it forces thibs to make a decision, either you sit booz to match up and go small or you have him guarding james jones on the perimeter and you run him through screens.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YO0EmMrmRA IAMORANGE4EVER

    MLK4Life: Trust me, the Bulls are praying for the Hawks to upset the Magic in round one, which would require the Magic shooters laying a turd like they did in game one three more times. That aint happenin. The Bulls will get the Magic in the second round, and they will lose because the Magic have Superman in the paint. This is my opinion. I may be wrong, but I doubt it!

  • roc

    Wow it took two playoff games to declare the bulls as a fraud(they’re not) and the heat are going to the finals. 1 game for Chris Paul to reclaim the best point guard in the world title, guys let’s at least allow the second round to start before we jump the gun. Philadelphia’s best scorer averages under 20 points a game and play at a pace that’s tailor made for the heat

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    I don’t want to quote “The Fast and the Furious” but damn some of the hate is making it impossible.
    “It don’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning.”

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Conseco’s gonna be filled with Bulls fans, like usual.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    94%…I think that is the rate teams 2-0 win the series. However, that doesnt mean 6% can’t happen if DRose has to win every game for the Bulls. Can somebody please find Luol Deng? Indiana is not much better either. Danny Granger can not do it all by himself either…Hibbert, Psycho T…props to Paul George, one-man defense…yayy

  • ThaWindy

    @roc:
    I think you’re right about making Booz defending in space. Thats why they need to sit his aspirin down!! He’s out there making excuses on D, telling people they need to come down. Im like you need to get the concrete out of your shoes and attempt to block a shot or take a charge instead of fouling all the phucking time!

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Like I said, some people never grow up… BV on here actually wanting to be called a gangster… Didn’t you get that I was making fun of that pathetic macho-persona you so love to project? Anyways it’s all good, I’m going to go out for lunch while you reload your AK. Catch you later fellas (throws up gang-sign and gnarls Boozer-style).

  • Fat Lever

    Feez, unless I failed math, and I’m Asian-Indian so that’s an impossibility, based on your post, that’s a 34 rebound difference.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Lz is funny guy. He’s probably a hipster, lol.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    @roc, fleming, actually i was about to say, most of the arguments here haven’t been as bad as i was expecting; at least people are giving the bulls credit and not completely writing them off, yet.
    but that was until i saw orange’s comment but hey, to each his own.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    but honestly, what were these “bad calls” against indy? i can’t remember any. i can only remember that horrible foul called on derrick on aj price, but that could just be my bias clouding my memory.

  • MLK4Life

    @IAMORANGE
    The Bulls beat the Magic with and without “Superman” in the paint during the season. We all have our opinions, true. But the Hawks are showing how to stop the Magic. Let Dwight do what he does and stay home on the shooters. Period.

  • JTaylor21

    Dude’s as gangsta as Paris Hilton at a hampton’s cocktail party.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ESPN has a poll up: “Who would win a game of one on one….MJ in his prime or Derrick Rose?” The response should be obvious…but it’s not. 94% say MJ…6% (including Bron Crawford, Diesel, etc.)say Derrick. How that’s not 99% (with 1% left for stupidity) is astounding. The slurping of this kid never ends.

  • T-Money

    roc: a lot of people had been suspicious of the bulls roster for a minute – nothing new. and a lot of people believe that cp3 is still the best pg in the game when healthy – again, nothing new.

  • JTaylor21

    Dude is about as gangsta as Paris Hilton at a hampton’s cocktail party.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    man, the media got y’all twisted. those 6% probably never seen mj play.
    and, most importantly, WHO CARES.

  • T-Money

    à propos of nothing: between guarding dwade and bron, don’t you get the feeling evan turner wished he’d back in the big 10?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Apparently the largest sports news provider in the entire world does to post a poll on their website.

  • JTaylor21

    Ha, dude is about as gangsta as Paris Hilton at a hampton’s cocktail party.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I didn’t vote, E. And if I did, I’d vote MJ. You know me better than that. At least I thought you did. DRose is my guy, but I ain’t that crazy!

  • JTaylor21

    Fat Lever FTW!!!

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    mhm, you think ESPN is run by a bunch of basketball heads? they’re going to be as mainstream as possible to appeal to the mostly ignorant masses. you already know that, cmon.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    if SLAM ever posted that poll up, thats when Slurpfest 2011 truly begins

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    That’s what I’m saying….they’re trying to create a legend about D-Rose that hasn’t even started yet….so that that mostly ignorant masses tune in from night to night to see highlights, raise their ratings, and provide them with with content.

  • JTaylor21

    Dude is about as gangsta as Paris Hilton at a hampton’s tennis club.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    but thats what IM sayin, haha. i got you but if we’re going to judge anyone on their basketball knowledge based solely on their findings on ESPN…well you know most of us here wouldn’t even give them the time of the day.
    im just saying a lot of what ESPN throws out there is mumbo jumbo to kill air time, and i ain’t trying to hear all that.

  • ThaWindy

    Would the game be close or a blowout? And who do you think would win?
    Me: To 12 all by one pt shots……Mike 12 to 0..Love Rose but aint no way. Mike would not miss!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Says the dude who lives a double life. Haha!!
    Like I said, GTFOH with that JTaylor. You already PUBLICLY outed yourself as a fraud, sir. I can pull the quote if you’d like.
    So if I were you, I’d fall back on trying to call somebody else out on how they really are in real life, LOL! You’re fugazi as they come, dude.

  • roc

    @T-Money all I’m saying is that its a small sample size(2 games). I trust 82 games over 2 any day and the bulls have lost and struggled against average teams all year, but when the elite have come into their building they’re dominant. They haven’t lost against an elite club since late December home or road. When I’ve seen Cp3 and Deron square up against Rose this year they’ve had some of the worst games of the season, but its always some excuse like “they’re playing hurt”. Cp3 may run a team better but if I had to win a game 7 I would have to choose Rose right now .

  • MUBWAR

    everyone was soo high on this bulls team and they can’t even win a easy game against a sub .500 club before the playoff. This team will be lucky coming out the second round against either the hawks or superman and his kids.

  • JTaylor21

    “as a fraud”, word?
    Says a guy that dons his rose colored PJs at night to sleep on a bed full of roses while crying to Miley Cyrus’ “Every Rose has it Thorn”.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    JTaylor, I can tell that you’re really mad right about now, haha. I can tell by your lame comebacks. But that’s not my fault dude, you said it, not me, tough guy, er, humble bot. Which one is it again? I forget. But then again, so do you! LOL!

  • add

    the sixers got no calls but the heat got a call every time they drove inside, ridiculous.

  • JTaylor21

    That’s it, that was your reply.
    Bravo, bubblegum thug.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    I’m impressed with Paul George period. I really like that dude’s game. He needs a better handle and jumper, but I like his activity and his mindset. He was really working hard on Rose, although that wasn’t the most fair matchup. The Pacers need to play better team defense on rose, and stop having George pick him up so close to the halfcourt line. That allows Rose to make a quick move up top, then build up even more speed as he comes to the big man. That’s curtains. They have to shrink the floor so it’s harder for him to read the angles.
    Pacers aren’t better than Philly. The Heat just match up crazy well with the Sixers like Fat Lever said.
    LeBron kills their best player in AI, Brand can’t do anything with Bosh or Anthony and Lou Williams isn’t going to dominate Chalmers. The only real advantage they have is Thaddeus Young, and he can’t carry your team. Pacers have decent talent at every position when you look at them. None of them are great scorers, although Granger is very good, but they are all fairly dangerous. They looked a little flustered last night at key moments though. I wonder if home court will calm them down.

  • T-Money

    add: and that’s why the sixers lost. if only the refs were fair, they’d be up 2-0. the fact that miami was 3rd and philly 27th in free throw attemps per game this season is COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS AND SHOULDN’T BE USED TO RATIONALIZE THE DISCREPANCY IN FT ATTEMPS SO FAR.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Sixers shoot way too many jumpers for a team that can’t shoot. It’s crazy how often they jack long jumpers with no ball movement or anything. Lou Williams is notorious for doing that.
    Brand has to play better. Igoudala must show up.
    And Doug Collins has to at least get his team to defend again. During the year, they were hounds on defense with Holiday and Igoudala doing some serious heavy lifting. Now they are just rolling over and not even trying.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    The knock on PG was his jumper and handle. I have liked his game since summer league. The Pacers have solid talent all around, they just don’t have elite talent. They have depth.
    I think home court will calm them, maybe they won’t fold down the stretch at Conseco.

  • Fat Lever

    Everything that Allem said. Thank you.

  • ThaWindy

    Someone tell Danny Granger they might want to stop Korver too.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    People forget that at the beginning of the season the Pacers were liked by a lot of people. Remember when they went into Miami and beat them? But Jim O’briens voice got lost some where there.

  • Fat Lever

    *Allen

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Anyone else really wanna see Boozer and Hansbrough knuckle up?
    I think the dookie would get rocked though, lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    So I’m confused… If the Sixers aren’t even trying and they’re just rolling over, while the Pacers have “fairly dangerous” players and are clearly both playing hard AND giving maximum effort every night, would that NOT make Indiana the “better” team? Or does that not matter?
    Additionally, looking at both rosters, I’d say the Pacers had more talent than the Sixers from top to bottom. Vogel has freed those guys up to do what they do well as supposed to Jim O’Brien stifling them. How good would they be if he’d been the coach all year?
    So I’m asking, is this the usual MO of arguing against something that I’ve said for the sake of doing so, or am I missing something with these two teams? I’m just curious.

  • JTaylor21

    Did any of you see T-Baby’s “Cold in the D”? Please Youtube this video. True bbasketball heads definitely appreciate it.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I will always bet against a Duke Alum.

  • JTaylor21

    Be sure to also Youtube the “Cold in the D” movie

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    psycho T would straight f*ck boozer up.
    i imagine a screeching similar to a hawk’s while he attacks boozer, and boozer howling “AYYY STOP DAT JO”

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    My one homer comment of the day; Chris Pauls 33/14/7 was only the 5th time a player had reached those totals in the play-offs. He is the 1st player ever to reach those totals in a road game.
    Back to last nights action.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    LOL! @ airs.
    Boozers bobble head thing he keeps doing is annoying also.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I think the Pacers are overachieving right now. And the Sixers are just getting slaughtered by a team that’s playing vastly superior ball right now.
    Sadly, I’d have to say, the way the Bulls are playing RIGHT NOW, they’d get slaughtered by the Heat too.
    That being said, I’ve watched the Bulls way too much this year to think they’re gonna keep playing this sh*tty.

  • JTaylor21

    I don’t think the Sixer’s D is the problem, it’s their offense. They haven’t allowed Mia to break 100 yet (Mia avg. 102 in the RS) and they have kept DWade and Bron in check except for Bron’s GM 2. Their biggest problem is the lack of production from their two best players; AI lacks a jumpshot and going up against Bron, he’s going to have a hard time getting to the rim like he usually does. EBrand is good player but similar to CBooz in the way that size gives him problems. He has a good jumpshot but when guarded by a much taller player in CB1, he has hard time shooting over him and throw in JAnthony, who can keep up with Brand’s quickness and does a great job contesting shots.
    It all depends on whether guys like ETurner, Meeks, JHoliday, and LWilliams can make shots, if not the series is over in 4.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Hansbrough would go into Psycho T mode and stomp Boozer.
    Boozer would yell “AY! AYYYYY! AYYYYYYYYYYYY!”
    Psycho T would be heard repeatedly yelling “f*ck you Henderson! How YOU like bleeding from the nose, Henderson?!”
    Now, if Hansbrough and Kurt Thomas went at it…one elbow from OG and it’s a wrap…again. Lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Josh McRoberts and Dahntay Jones need to take one for the team and be enforcers. These dudes just say cut the check and thats it, no passion at all. I know DRose is killing em but damnyum, he aint MJ. I love how people say someone isn’t as good as someone else in the NBA. First, it’s the NBA, second, it’s easy to compare till you see them play head-to-head. Indiana is not that bad. Paul George included.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Popcorn Muscles would need a morphine drip for about a week.

  • JTaylor21

    Who knew that little kids were allowed to use the computer unsupervised?
    To the clown that’s using my name, do everyone a favor and stick a fork in an outlet.

  • JTaylor21

    Boozer is a damn Dukie and Hansbrough is a UNC bred brawler.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    I specifically said the Pacers are not the better team.
    First, they are an inferior defensive team. They play horrible defense for the most part. George is basically on an island, which is why Rose is putting these high point totals. They rebound poorly, very, VERY poorly. They tend to use Granger way too much in isolations, and ignore Hibbert for long stretches. Of course, Hibbert thinks his freaking Steve Kerr right now with all the damn jumpers. Hansbrough too.
    Philly has a decent floor leader who is an elite defender in Holiday. Jrue can also knock down a jumper when he needs to. They have swiss army knife in Igoudala, who physically overwhelms most threes in the league with his defense and versatility. They have a rugged four in Brand, who can still get buckets and knows how to draw fouls. Turner is good when his confidence is right, and Meeks is lights out. Lou Williams is the perfect sixth man most of the time. He can create his own shot, has no fear, and cna get hot instantly. Thaddeus Young is a matchup nightmare at the three or four, mainly because he has ridiculous hops, a crazy first step and a decent jumper. Plus he’s active on the glass.
    The Sixers, since their horrid start, have been great on defense. Like, really, really good.
    Unfortunately, against Miami, they are overmatched at three of the four main positions for long stretches of the game. Igoudala can’t handle Bron, Holiday can’t handle Wade, obviously Evan Turner can’t, and Bosh is better than every big on their roster on both ends. Add to that the shooting you get from Bibby and Jones and the way Anthony is being allowed to roam and defend the rim, and it’s a problem.
    The Sixers typically beat teams by out working them, and having more physical talent. They don’t have more physical talent than the Heat and they aren’t outworking. So they are having problems, and their best players haven’t rallied the troops. We shall see what happens at home.
    But the Sixers are a better team than the Pacers. They’ve showed that all year.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    haha nobody wants a piece of big sexy. kurt thomas is as OG as it gets, id love to see him punk bosh

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Wonder if Hansbrough would feel outnumbered if he was on the court with Dahntay Jones, Josh McRoberts, Loul Deng, Mike Dunleavy and Carlos Boozer at the same time?

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I have to agree with Allen, the Sixers are the better team.

  • mooshy

    My bad JTaylor. Slam keeps putting other folk’s info in where my name is supposed to be by accident. I didn’t realize my comments were under your name.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Fat Lever’s “i’m Asian-Indian, so that’s an impossibility” line had me howling in laughter.
    Fan-tas-tic use of the cliché, man.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Should we not be impressed by Philly or Indiana? Miami and Chicago should handle them easily. You gotta earn my respect fam.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    bulls are gonna be fine, people who have watched them all season should know this.
    but props to the pacers for, ahem, keeping pace.
    am i right?!
    okay sorry i’ll go have my lunch now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Philly is “head-and-shoulders” above Indiana. My opinion.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    AllrnP @10:40 – straight quoted most of what my girl said last night she said “you watch a crazy amount of basketball games and never pay attention to me during the playoffs”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Joakim Noah is so under-valued. They Should trade him and Loul Deng for Marc Gasol and Shane Battier.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Am I the only one who feels that if you want a valid opinion of certain players or teams, this site and comment section are the only decent place to look?
    Some of the stuff I am reading on certain sites is ridiculous. The commenters on NBA.com hang time blog are clueless.
    As are anyone on SBnation.com, and of course those experts at ESPN.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Ha.
    By the time the playoffs roll around, my wife just sits down and watches the games with me cause she knows 1) that’s the only way she’ll get to spend some time with me and 2) she’s happy anyways cause playoffs means the games will be over soon.
    I always pause the game (gotta love DVR) for my kids though. That ain’t even a question. Luckily they’re both ball fans too though.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I feel both of you guys, but I never get the whole “I miss you, I haven’t seen you all day” bs. We spend the majority of the time we are not working in the house together?! Then when I fire up the laptop for League Pass its “time to talk”

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    man, i must be the luckiest guy cuz my girl is yelling at the tv nearly as much as i am when games are on. it helps that she has a huge crush on drose but oh well

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Nah, dudes like BC gotta be the luckiest guys. I would I could be like “baby, I HAVE to watch the games. It’s my job”. Lol

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Ha!

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    My girl doesn’t mind the games, but the press coonferences and all the other extra stuff she ain’t down with

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    Im sorry fellas but, wives, girlfriends, jumpoffs, have no business in the playoffs of any sport, unless you’re at the game. Keep em’ in the kitchen and keep the chicken and beer coming Just saying. All this “my girl” BS is nonsense. Some of ya’ll been cheating DL with LeaguePass.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Back from lunch; Sixers are clearly the better team compared to the Pacers. Fat Lever is spot on with his post about ‘match-ups’ and also made me crack up with his Asian-Indian comment. BC I am sorry to dissapoint you, no hipster here. I am the suit for work (required) and basic jeans, white tee, Air Max’s kind of guy. So the only scarf in yours and mine combined wardrobe is that Windy City bandana wrapped around your forehead, Mr. Gangsta-Gangsta…

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    What’s wrong with a scarf? Burberry keeps the neck warm.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    She said a crazy amount of basketball during the playoffs my bad with the misquote on the copy and paste. It was during Thibs press conference

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Somebody hacked into my Twitter. I don’t even know what Burberry means…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    My wife congratulates me when the Heat win as if was the coach or some sh*t. I usually crack up….but then she’ll say “oh, they sucked, huh?” whenever they take a loss. I prefer when my kid walks through, looks at the score and say’s “I hate you_____’s!” fill in the blank for opposing team and then meanders off. Still, he hates no one more in the league than Rondo and how a six year old came up with that on his own, I have no idea.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    E it’s because he looks like Xerxes from 300 and nobody liked that dude.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Oh that one’s easy, Nic.
    Bur….Berry.
    Emma….Watson.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    How much more athletic is AI than LeBron?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    This isn’t LA, so no bandana’s worn around here, Lz. Sorry to disappoint you as well.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Your son curses at 6?
    What am I saying, I had a foul mouth at 6 too thanks to my public school education. Just would have gotten batted if I used that language in the house.

  • bashmo

    lol Dick Stockton at times confuses the hell out of me. I remember on an offensive foul on Hibbert he’s like “Putback is good and a foul!” after Noah started pumping his fist, following a Paul George putback.
    And then while I think AJ Price was putting up free throws, he was like “Technical foul on boozer”, but it was actually double techs and he corrected it later. And Cwebb was full of emotion, I can’t hate on that sense of playoff intensity.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Actually, Allen, he says “I hate you Sixers” or “I hate you Lakers”….I’d have to whip his ass a bit if he pushed hit beyond that. Niholas, I was at Toys R Us with him this weekend and we saw a Rondo McFarlane figure on the shelves….he saw it, picked it up, punched it and threw it on the floor. I would have been ok if it was a Kobe figure, I actually like Rondo, but he ain’t having it.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Allen,
    I assumed the blank was meant for whatever team beat the Heat.
    “I hate you Mavericks” for instance.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Lakeshow
    They are about even, or LeBron has the edge since he’s carrying more weight, but still has the same quickness and nearly as much leaping ability. Which is highly unusual for AI.
    Anyway, it’s kind of crazy that the new meme out of New York is that Melo can’t handle the playoffs. That’s crazy talk. I mean, I don’t even like Melo, but it’s wild how quickly people went from singing his praises to questioning his nuts. I can see why players get frustrated sometimes.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Amusing how most here have similar experiences with bball and their women.
    I actually met my lady through basketball, we both play and she is the worst loser on the planet, bar none. If i dare beat her soundly in a pickup game, she becomes a fire breathing dragon.
    Oddly, her Nba interest is minimal. Must be because AI no longer plays (she practically drools when she sees that cat).

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    LMAO.
    My five-year old daughter loves watching the Bulls pre-game intros. She’ll sit up and do the “Loul Deng dance” as she calls it, his little routine he does with Ronnie Brewer when he’s introduced at home games.
    She’s bummed cause TNT’s b*tch a**es don’t show the pre-game intros.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    Ha, I guess I used my own evil childhood as a measure. My bad.
    My sons understand that basketball is on, but they don’t really watch that much. Although my oldest always wants to play whenever I crank up 2K11.
    Is it bad that when I let him “play” I don’t actually turn on his controller and instead let the computer control his man?

  • http://chicagonow.com/sports/bulls Diesel

    Im not really sure where everyone got that the Bulls were getting favorable calls last night. If anything Indy was getting the more favorable calls as the road team and an 8th seed…basically unheard of. People are over reactting to the game…Bulls missed a lot of free throws and had 22 turn overs. Slightly improve on either of those things and last nights game is a blow out. Both of those things are concentration issues that can be easily fixed too. I would definitly play Korver with the starting 5 more. We need his shooting to space the floor. Bulls will be fine. They match up well against every other team left in the playoffs.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Lz musta meant “Windy City Buck 50 cap”…or do they not rock them in the Chi no more?
    Feel like an ex-pat sometimes…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Agreed Allen. They are equal but Lebron has more muscle overall he’s carrying. AI has more on his arms though. Dude has rediculous arms. Like kinda weird how big his bicepts are. It’s like, dude quit curling everytime you work out. lol

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    No way AI is more athletic than Lebron. That’s pure foolery.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Haven’t seen the Buck 50 in a while, ‘Matic. Every now and then when I’m out West, but for the most part, it seems to be extinct now. New Era’s have taken over.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    I don’t see that either Diesel, that game was fair imo

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    lol, Allen, that trick is classic. I wonder what age the kids have to be for it to stop working.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    BC sorry my mistake, for a second I forgot that you are a Gangster Disciple or a CVL and not a Crip or Blood. Nicolas, nothing wrong with a scraf , but I live in Brazil so it is kind of excessive considering the heat.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Wow, Lz… Did you really just Google the gangs in Chicago, haha. “Gangster Disciple”? “CVL”? You’re a funny dude, yo. LMAO.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    BC in my teen days I liked that kind of stuff. I’ve been to Chicago back in the late 90′ies, did the research back then. Kind of silly I know, but One grow up you know, or at least some of us do I guess…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Mars

    lol…you guys are funny. Im switching to adidas next year.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I disagreed with myself it appears. Slaaaaaam!

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Anyways back to basketball, I’ll leave BC with gangbanging it is more his truf after all; debating the physicality of LeBron vs. AI. Is it me or did James loose a couple of inches on his vertical this season. I mean he is still top 1% in the L athletic, but his highlights, although great and impressive (like the oop over Holiday yesterday) doesn’t seem to have the same head above cylinder effect it had just a year or so ago. Thoughts?

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Anyone else think Paul George is gonna end up to be a better pro then Danny Granger?

  • http://chicagonow.com/sports/bulls Diesel

    Yeah I’ll agree with that nbk. He looks good already and I think Granger is one of the most overrated players int he league.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Looks to me that LeBron has put on weight. Which is why I don’t think he’s jumping like he used to. He has been posting up more, scores like 58% of the time.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Paul George will be an All-Star some day and an all around better player than Granger.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I tend to lean towards the side that says Lebron really doesn’t go for the “homerun” play as much as he did in Cleveland. I think he pulled it back a bit to try and “fit in” and try not to “showboat” (like the whole dance/taking imaginary picture routine that magically dissapeared once he slipped on a Heat jersey). There have only been a small handful of “holy sh*t” moments from him this season and to me, I’m fine with it if he is a more effective player (which he has been). I think he still has another level that he hasn’t pushed himself too yet. He still seems to be playing at like 85% of what we’ve seen of him in the past. He never looks like he’s overexerting and rarely (if ever) looks tired. I expect him to get hyped up in the first series that involves maximum output from him. The Philly series is not really pushing him. Just my observation from watching each game from the preseason on.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Gangs in 2011? Fail!!!

  • http://slamonline.com mooshy

    This site keeps posting my comments under other folk’s name. My bad LakeShow

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Co-sign LakeShow. Those are good insights Eboy. Will be interesting if he found another 15% in the latter rounds playoffs. I have been expecting it for the last couple of years, but it didn’t really materialize yet. We’ll see…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    While I certainly find the constant insinuation that I’m not “grown up” amusing, Lz, it couldn’t be any further from the truth. You’re clearly trying to use it as a put down, but unfortunately, it’s not working. However, your claim that you were referencing your “late 90′ies” research is both false and comical. You Googled, I know you did. And had you done “research” on Chicago as you claim to have done, you would’ve immediately known to associate Chicago with “Folks” and “Lords,” not Crips and Bloods. You look foolish commenting on something that you clearly know nothing about, but whatever. I’m not here to be your Chicago street gang teacher.
    In any case, I do not and will not apologize, ever, for who I am, where I’m from and how my environment, both familial and circumferential, taught me to be for conformities sake or to please participants in a comment section, like yourself.
    In other words, I ain’t with that hippie ish. I am who I am, like it or not. And God has my back so you’re just going to have to deal with it… Or not. Doesn’t matter to me either way, sir.
    We clear?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Well….I’m not sure if there’s “clutchness” anywhere to be found in those extra percentages, but I don’t think he’s going to short change the Heat and their fans on his effort.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Cosign Eboy – LeBron never looks gassed. I noticed last night at the end of the third he had barely broken a sweat

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    LZ
    I’ve been saying that for months now. And several other folks on here have noticed it as well. We speculated that there was some sort of undisclosed injury, or maybe that he’s carrying too much weight.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Allenp; of the top of my mind I think that him carrying too much weight would be weird considering that Pat likes his players lean and both Bosh and Wade looks less beefy than last year. One would guess that the are doing the same kind of training. LeBron is like 28 right, Could it be that he just slowly on the decline physically. I mean normally this happens a little later, but he is like 260-270 with crazy speed, strength and hops – there is not really anybody who has had that combo before. So could it just be that his ‘superhuman’ powers are slowly on the decline. I sure don’t hope it, as he is quite a sight to behold in full flight. But I don’t think I have seen a single dunk or block from him this year that measure up to earlier exploits from a physical point of view.

  • http://slamonline Allenp

    LeBron looks bigger around the middle in games, but in press conferences, he looks smaller.
    Maybe you’re right, maybe he just can’t get up like he could back in the day. And I think LeBron is 25 or 26.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Maybe his athletic talents didn’t take to the South Beach lifestyle?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Ya’ll are nuts….dude is a slim bodied “big” dude…..to start making out of the ordinary claims is silly. He’s not relied upon to do everything for the team. It’s amazing how your game will adjust to not having to be relied upon to sell popcorn, finish plays, take contact, get the crowd hyped, hope to finish off teams by yourself and try to will your crowd into it ’cause you’re the only on the roster that can make people stand up and cheer for your team (this is all Cavs related). I’m telling you….dude has been saving himself.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    To be honest I don’t really know what I think about it Allenp. I was just wondering and hoping someone with more insights could fill me in. I seem to have missed that you guys have already discussed this matter earlier. That young… Wow… Extra inches or not on his vert, that means he can still improve by leaps and bounds… Scary…

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    26, and I think he strategically put on that weight in peroration for more minutes at PF and for time in the post. – There was an article fhat outlines all the work they’ve been putting in to improve his post game

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Dark’s married to the female Jordan! Blazers are winning tonight, they’re going to triple-team Kidd and let Dirk beat them. Flawless victory.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Lz, in your teen days you “liked that kind of stuff”?
    Wow.
    I remember going to the park at age 10 and having to defend my baby bro from grown-ass Latin Kings that were picking on him.
    Damn near got my a** killed.
    I remember hanging with the wrong crowd in high school and getting our car shot at by Maniacs.
    I remember not being able to visit some of my friends without bangers on the corner asking me what I “be about”.
    And this was in the burbs, yo!
    But you “liked” that kind of stuff.
    Yeah, ok…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I mentioned a few months back that Bron never ever seems to get tired. I can buy that “saving himself” argument. He ain’t the only guy who has been doing that.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    BUT, Bron cannot change direction as quick as he used to. I think that is due to extra weight. I also think he has lost an inch or two, but he could jump so high that it has not mattered.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Could it be LeBron never looks tired because he’s only 26 and averaged the second lowest MPG in his career?

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Enigmatic; let me explain. I like many other stupid young teens was fascinated by these kind of gangsta things to the extent that I saw the movies, read about it etc etc.. It wasn’t that I liked it the way I like basketball, so probably my wording was wrong in the other post – just a stupid fascination about knowing about these things, not actually being a banger like toughguy Crawford. Luckily I didn’t grow up in a place with this kind of social problems that you encountered and I am sorry to hear about the hardships you encountered, must have been a drag. I very must respect the things you had to deal with. But if you point with spilling these stories was to sound tough, then ease up on the war-stories, everybody got them and yours aren’t really all that bad.

  • Fat Lever

    I dont think Bron has lost much of anything. Last night he almost decapitated himself trying to catch an oop on the break. I think it was Chalmers who overthrew him, which I didn’t think was possible.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Lz – If I wanted to tell you “war stories”, I’d tell you about my time in uniform.
    And I encountered a lot more than what I wrote, shootings, stabbings, killings, but that’s not my point.
    My point is I dislike when people that aren’t part of that culture or lifestyle think banging is “cool” cause they’ve never had to deal with it directly.
    Wanting to learn about it is different. We all like to watch Gangland and all that.
    But nothing cool about it.

  • JoeMaMa

    Guys don’t save themselves and get those numbers and wins. LeBron averaged 27/7.5/7 on 51%. If he IS saving himself, then I’m going to have to take that one step further and insist he’s far and away the best player in the league.

  • Fat Lever

    And I want to go back to eboy’s post about ESPN putting that poll up about Rose and MJ. This is the same website that created the Heat Index and The Race to 72, or whatever they called it, BEFORE ANY OF THESE GUYS EVER PLAYED A GAME TOGETHER. ESPN is a joke of a legitimate outlet for unbiased, actual sports coverage.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Their magazine sucks too

  • T-Money

    I’ve watched over 75% of Miami games this year either live or on demand. Bron still got it. Think about the dunk vs OKC when he blew by KD and went to the other side or the fast break at the start of Miami’s last game at Chicago when he brought the ball down to his ankles on the break before throwing the reverse on the other side. I just don’t think he cares that much about reaching his apex on every single dunk anymore, he’s much more methodical with his whole approach to the game this year.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Enigmatic; Cool, I thought so. I also dislike it and completely agree with you that it is not cool at all; exactly the reason that I tell BC to grow up when he starts saying all that kind of stuff initiating that he is some tough gangsta; like that is supposed to be cool?. I should have wrote ‘wanting to learn about it’ or fascinated instead of liked in the initial post, my bad. I grew up in quiet Copenhagen and there was absolutely nothing gangster about it. But I have worked in places that make Chicago or any other US inner-city seem like a kindergarten and currently live in a city and country which are considered far more dangerous than the US, and I too have my own war-stories to tell. Point is this doesn’t make me any tougher or cooler than the next man. Being a gangster is being a tool, I guess is my message and I can see that we agree.

  • T-Money

    I don’t buy the whole saving himself thing though. People are just different. Bosh needs more rest than Wade who needs more rest than Bron. It’s like in Chicago, D-Rose is the best player but he still needs more Rest than Luol who’s basically teflon. Jo Noah on the other hand has problems playing more than 8 consecutive minutes at peak intensity (I blame the reefer).

  • T-Money

    I was thinking about something yesterday while watching Bron do work in the post. A lot of people predict that he will suck once he loses his legs. The thing is, a 33-year old LeBron will basically be a 6’9-270 power forward. Essentially, a better Chris Webber zipping passes and controlling traffic from the high post.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    I really can’t speak on BC and his own personal experiences, but I do know the neighborhood he grew up in definitely makes mine look like Pleasantville.
    That’s why his very first post on here I told him it was great to see someone make it outta there and be successful.

  • bull22

    well another day of playoff basketball, feuds and more feuds. some good points but majority pure nonsense….. but at the end of the day i like how tibbs thinks “If you look ahead, you get in trouble. If you look behind, you get in trouble,” said Thibodeau. “The challenge for us is to focus on exactly what’s in front of us and take it step by step. If we’re doing the right things every day, the results will take care of themselves.”

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    T-Money, I can see a 33 year-old LeBron as an older Scottie Pippen.
    He’ll get his points, boards and assists, but he’ll probably focus more on being a defensive menace.

  • T-Money

    For the record, not a single person for the Miami Heat organization ever talked about 72. Not one. I’ll go to my grave thinking that JVG wanted to help out his bro by starting that nonsense.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Enig; If that is the case I like you commend BC for making it out. Doesn’t make me think any better of his skills as a writer or think he is any less arrogant and especially chilish spewing that ‘Gangsta’ stuff around here, but no doubt respect for being a success. Back to BBall; could LeBron ‘blossom’ into a Karl Malone-esque player when he gets older? I mean the size is roughly the same, Malone started shooting more jumpshots and scoring in other crafty ways instead of relying on his hops and explosion when he got older. Both have that great strength as a weapon. Malone also always was a good passer (not Lebron level of course…)and if he learns the post game, what do you guys think could he go that route? I personally think Malonelike is more likely than the Pippen-comparison. Although there is no doubt that James will always fill the stat-sheet, much like Pip did, but defensive menace when his legs leave him; I doubt it…

  • http://slamonlie.com nbk

    We all realize LeBron hasn’t reached his prime yet right? I mean dude’s 1-1/2 from 28, which is the average person’s physical prime. It’s right about where Jordan reached his full effectiveness. I think LeBron will only get better for the next 2-3 years, this talk of him slowing down is nonsensical. We don’t even know what kind of player he will be in 2 years let alone when he slows down.

  • http://slamonlie.com nbk

    EA let their fans vote on the next cover of Madden 11 and the two finalists are………………………………………………………….. Peyton Hillis (lol) and MICHAEL VICK. HAHHAHAHA way to go EA community, way to screw over Madden.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Speaking of EA…did “Elite” ever drop???

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    nbk, I can’t speak for the others but I was only talking physically. I surely think he will be improving at least for 3 years, when talking about his game. My Malone thoughts was based on a 33 year old Lebron and came about after Enigmatics post citing that age.

  • http://slamonlie.com nbk

    NO Matic they cancelled it. It won’t be shipping this year either, the next EA basketball sim will come out in 2012. They are supposedly, for the 5th year in a row, reworking everything. Just like Dr Dre was gonna release detox back in 03, i mean 05, i mean 06, 07? 08? now in 2011……hopefully lol — Lz I feel you, I doubt he turns into a Karl Malone type, in my estimation he will turn into a whole new type of veteran. A mix between Malone and Drexler w/ a little more then a pinch of point guard mixed in. In other words, I doubt we’ve ever seen someone age the way LeBron will. IMO ofcourse

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    That mix I could also see happening… I’m out take care people.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    Man, I hate EA.
    Mostly cause it’s their fault 2K will probably never drop another College Hoops game again.

  • http://slamonlie.com nbk

    College Hoops games take so much work, plus you have to make it different from the NBA game so you have to hire a whole new development team. Plus the crowd of people willing to buy college sports video games are generally adults or college students that don’t have the money. The NBA is geared towards kids in their marketing, its kills any kind of popularity that the NCAA grabs in march. – I read an article a couple years ago on operation sports . com that outlined the disadvantages inherent in creating college basketball games. (or maybe it was college games all together, i’m not sure)

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Enigmatic. I don’t think even people who are part of or exposed to gang culture should find it cool.
    And on the subject of the Chi, RIP Fred Hampton.

  • JTaylor21

    The celtics are very fortunate to be up 2-0 on the knicks, first without Billups and now Amare.
    Hopefully both guys will be back for Friday’s game at the garden.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Man, that loss hurts for the Knicks. Melo was balling out of his mind. Why didn’t Jared Jeffries shoot that last shot?! Why did he pass it?!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Both Boston and Chicago are insanely lucky these first two games. Hopefully the Knicks and Pacers can keep their composure and realize just how close they were to stealing BOTH games, and go out there and make something happen.
    The Knicks still have a good shot at this series–make it happen, Melo!

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Yup, that was the Melo who destroyed Dallas 2 playoffs ago.
    How quickly people forget.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Because Jared Jeffries had his testicles ascend into his throat and his sphincter was.tighter than Lil Wayne’s pants.
    He didn’t want no part of that pressure.
    Melo was 3 boards away from a 40/20 at the small forward! That is crazy.
    Bostonvhas to wondering how they let him keep the game that close.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diggler is murdering right now.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And it is crazy how KG has everybody refusing to allow shots to go in after whistle.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Sssshhhh, Allenp. Don’t jinx it :-)
    GOMAVS!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Blazers have to figure out how to get something for roy.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Chris Webber is one of my favorite NBA analysts/commentators right now.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    As for the Pacers, they do have some young talent with the potential to be elite. Darren Collison will be an All-Star in the future, Danny Granger is a legit 25 ppg scorer, and Paul George is a fantastic rook. I’m also liking Hansbrough a lot (though 2-12 is not a good look). They had a serious shot at coming back to Indiana up 2-0 against the Bulls.

  • http://Www.fiba.com Darksaber

    FINALLY!
    Mavs have been playing horribly in 3rd quarters since March.
    As soon as they came out of halftime to (barely) outscore the Blazers, i knew the 4th quarter killer (guess who..) would take over.
    My lord, Jason Kidd, please keep proving me wrong. Good D, nice, very nice stroke, if you can keep this up, Mavs are going far.

  • Youngindy21

    Indiana is clearly a better team than Philly and if you don’t think so then you don’t know basketball. They have one of the best SF in the game right now in Danny Granger. Tyler Hansbrough is one of the best scoring PF in the game has put up 29 pts multiple games. Darren Collsion is a great young PG who was not First team All-Rookie for nothing. Paul George is a great defender and rebounder and once he gets his jumpshot down he will be scary good. Roy Hibbert is arguably one of the best centers in the league right now. The Bulls only won both game 1 and 2 because of the refs. Indiana is better than the Knicks too. They beat them in back to back games. The Indiana bench is solid and Brandon Rush and Mike Dunleavy have finally started to get their threes to fall very consistently. The Bulls should be very scared because they won’t have refs there to save them everytime.

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