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Friday, May 13th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  46 responses

Celtics Thinking of Starting Jeff Green Over Paul Pierce?


Paul Pierce is convinced this Boston Celtics team can make another run at the title next season (health-permitting); meanwhile, his GM Danny Ainge thinks changes to the roster are necessary and inevitable, which might mean it’s time for Pierce to come off the bench, with Jeff Green taking his starter’s minutes. Yikes. From the Boston Globe (via WEEI): “On the future of the team: ‘We need to make changes for sure. I don’t think [the roster is good enough to compete for a title next year]. But having said that that’s my job is to evaluate the reasons why we didn’t play the way we’re capable of playing … We do have a team that next year come playoff time will be a year older and a team like Miami will be in their prime years.’ … On the starting lineup changing: ‘Maybe there’s a change of roles. Maybe Paul comes off the bench, cuts down on his minutes. Maybe we find a way to get Jeff more minutes. His role will expand if he’s back here next year. There’s no question about that … It wouldn’t totally shock me if there’s a change in the starting lineup, but that’s just way too tough to tell.’ On the possibility of trading one of the Big Three: ‘I would have to look into that if a good trade came about.’”

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  • RobbieJay

    failure.

  • vtrobot

    this sounds like a good plan, for the ’12-’13 season.

  • logues

    maybe not a bad idea, kinda like terry coming of the bench for dallas, instant offense

  • http://slamonline.com Easy Bee

    Not happening. And why are we talking about this now? With at least 5 months before opening night and half of the roster still being an unknown? This means nothing.

  • ernieD

    it makes sense, mostly because guys like Pierce and Ray know how to create their own offense, and could come off the bench and start producing. The one thing they will lack is stamina, so reducing their minutes by having them come off the bench would work better than assembling a second team behind the aging Big 3. Delonte West and Jeff Green could both start on most any other team. Now they just need to find a big guy in the middle.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    that’s pretty ridiculous.

  • kurt

    Face it Ainge you made a mistake trading Perkins and Nate the celts had no force in the middle and it hurt help side defense and no scoring punch and big play maker off the bench via Nate,he also would have helped when Rondo went down they were key parts in the celts run last year and only lost to the Lakers cus Perk was lost for game 7.Fact Celts are a old team so this should have been there year to contend should have left the team as is so now you gotta revamp the roster keeping the big 3 and surrounding them with a mix of young and vet guys hungry to win.So yes it is very obvious they need a strong bench so if Pierce was that anchor on the bench it could work with a different bench cause the one they have won’t.

  • J.C.

    Well, they traded Perk (and their hopes of competing in the Playoffs this year) for him. Might as well get their money’s worth.

  • T-Money

    i’m not against bringing paul pierce off the bench per se but i’m against bringing paul pierce off the bench to get jeff freaking green comfortable.

  • W.Mack

    This idea is fine as long as Green goes back to the bench after the All-Star Break. That way, Green gets comfortable and Pierce’s legs are saved for the playoffs. Wouldn’t hurt to bring in some other reliable young legs to do the same for KG & Ray.
    Here’s the thing though. BOS probably needs to start drafting guys that can come in and play right away instead of all this “long term project” crap they’ve been pulling lately

  • Frank

    can we trade Danny Ainge for a monkey and a donkey?

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    Its hard for them to draft guys that can play right away when they pick in the 20s every season. The draft is only so deep and those diamond in the rough players are hard to find. I think Pierce has one more year left in him as a starter. I don’t think he’d react well to coming off the bench.

  • 1982

    Maybe Ainge should stop. You brought this team together for one championship, then started dismantling it without thinking it through. He’s Jerry Krause without the 3peat(s).

  • Mbex4jp2

    It scoring that they needed against Miami and Perkins wont give you that. Give Pierce another year then let him the bench scoring punch.

  • Fat Lever

    Does Jeff Green have pictures of Ainge on a date with Shaq dressed up as a woman, like he did for Halloween, or something?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    ^Clearly the only logical explanation.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    They need to trade Danny Ainge for a GM who doesn’t make stupid decisions for the “long term” with a team that’s built to succeed in the short term.

  • Whoever

    I think it is a good idea. Save Pierce and he will score at will against any team coming off the bench. They need to get Green in the offensive scheme of things. The kid has all the tools and is going to be here when the Big 3 are gone.

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    I thought it was common knowledge 4 years ago that Boston sold there sole for a chance to contend for a few years, knowing they would crumble into a fine dust and blow off the face of the earth. They got that 1 chip, and last year was a nice surprise but they might as well start rebiulding now, cause its not like Miami is gonna be worse next year.

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    wow “their soul” even.

  • smoove

    i want sum of want ainge is smokin these days,,,thats sum good sh*t

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    Green is certainly capable of starting, but Pierce is the Celtic with the most life in him of the Big 3. As for gems late in the draft; Jeremy Tyler has flown under the radar but he could be a solid player to learn behind KG and Jermaine O’Neal for a season. He has All-Star potential on his physical tools alone.

  • Yann Blavec

    Imagine a Laker called Purplnyellow.

  • Bimmer

    Jeff Green is not a bad player. He’s just not good lol

  • http://countdownnba.blogspot.com/ Clay

    Just start Pierce and play him less. That can be done but seeing how Ainge isn’t the coach, he should shut up

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign W. Mack.

  • AMac

    Jeff Green is an average NBA player at best. His PER, etc. shows that. He’s 25, he won’t magically become an amazing player-there is no untapped upside here-so why bench the captain? Would the C’s have pulled some crap like this with Legend or Hondo? Hell No! Sorry, but until Pierce says it’s time for him to move to the bench-he should start. Danny Ainge needs to stop making Celtics fans feel like they’re cheering for laundry-bringing in clowns like Arroyo, et al. We had young players with ability (Semih Erden), energy (Nate) and heart (Perk)-we traded them for an average player and a dude who looks like he smokes 40 a day (Kristic). Seriously Ainge, let Doc take care of personnel, you go off and play golf somewhere.

  • W.Mack

    As I watched the final game, I tweeted that sadly, Kristic was a better offensive option than KG at that point. Say what you will about him, but he could hit that little mid-range jumper with some consistency.

    The comment I made earlier was that BOS should draft some guys that can come in and contribute right away instead of projects. I didn’t mean anyone to come in and start. I meant guys who had been in winning programs in college (like a Sam Young or a DeJuan Blair) who were coachable, can contribute, and could eventually start at some point.

  • al29

    I think it’s all been said above, but I’ll say it again. Ainge really screwed up. The Celtics looked like the best team in the league, and many people had them winning it all. Why make a major roster change in the middle of a potential championship season? They were winning, weren’t they? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. This team is done. Time to rebuild. Oh wait, you can’t, because you owe too much money to your veterans who are all in their mid-30s.

  • NV

    Let’s be serious here, if one of the big three is going to come off of the bench for The Celtics next season, it’s gonna be Ray Ray. In order, the most effective players of da big three:
    Garnett
    Pierce
    Allen
    Allen could have a great spark, but i don’t think he should start anymore. Ya know, give his legs a rest, maybe he’ll have a career year again?

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    And Rivers signed up for 5 more years of this ‘management’?

  • BostonBaller

    I agree w/ Allenp @ 11:44 am
    as far as “making decisions for the “long term” with a team that’s built to succeed in the short term.” Unless Perk who said he wanted to be a Celtic said otherwise behind closed doors then you stick with him and grind out the negotiations. As far as PDouble not starting..that would smash his ego at this stage b/c he is still clearly one of the best at what he does in the L whether you like it or not. He still scores even though the other top 3 teammates score @ 50 a game. He often defends the best forwards and is not afraid of a dual or big shot. I like Green but he looked shook in the MIA series..he’s not ready. This whole concept of PDouble off the bench to score at will on 2nd teams is crazy right now.

  • BostonBaller

    Starting Green? Wade & LBJ’s eyes would light up almost as big as when they saw that Perk was gone to the west. lol. They treated us like we were in a drive thru window at BK (They had it their way – going thru the lane w/out fear) Why do you think Wade’s average against us shot up during the playoffs? Not yet young man…PLEASE prove me wrong though PLEASE!!!!

  • Lazarus

    you’re a dhead ainge…. that is all.

  • http://staticseth.blogspot.com Seth

    Paul Pierce is still an All-Star, or at least is in the neighborhood. There’s no way the guy is coming off the bench. If anyone should go from starter to bench player, it’s KG. The guy just did not perform in the playoffs and I think his age is showing. Also, who knows if Green will even be back?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Do not be surprised if Rondo is traded. He has the contract, and the Celtics can get plenty in return for him.

  • BostonBaller

    PHILOSOPHER!!!! ssshhhhhhh, don’t say that! Although after the Perk trade, nothing would surprise me.

  • iLL wiLL

    Ainge failed by trading Perk.

  • bill

    lmaooo im with frank lets trade ainge for a monkey and a donkey i think thats a great deal

  • Bos34

    Paul pierce is a starter! jeff green is a talented player, but paul pierce is still a superstar, and you want/need him on the court down the stretch. i read that he has started every game of his nba career (excluding all-star games) and he should keep it that way. you would rather have Paul Pierce going up against Kobe or Lebron, not Jeff Green. Remember GAme 7 of the ’08 semi’s vs. Lebron. He went off. its not like he has struggles scoring, he just doesn’t need to be the offense like before the big 3. When Garrnet was gone in ’09 he averaged 20 pts that season, he can carry a team, but he shouldnt have to do it during the regular season, but he should still start, just less minutes. he is still an elite NBA player.

  • http://wwww.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    this is what happens when a team gets old. lakers, you got a lil while longer, nah, but seriously, its over for them too. just like i said at the start of the season, kobe is done winning. i hope it really bothers him that he only has two finals mvps, and shaq has 3.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    Ainge is on crack. They do need help off the bench, but not out of their core 4. They need to sign McGrady to back up the 1,2 and 3 positions at any given time. And Yao.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    @NV: The reason Ray can’t be brought in off the bench is his constant 3 point threat. Takes the pressure off Pierce. Taking either one of them out of the starting lineup will make the other less effective. Again, Ainge is on crack.

  • Eric

    Ainge aleady F***** up by trading Perkins, now benching Pierce for Green?? There goes the next season. Thanks Ainge!!

  • Eric

    WOW!!

  • Ryan

    Jeff Green shown flashes of potential on the team. Boston just needs to work with him, Boston worked with Rondo and now is one of the great point guards in the NBA. Green can be a break out player this season. I think once Green gets the rotation down he will be a starter or six man off the bench. Look at Chris Bosh, he was showing flashes of great with the Heat. Once he found that role with Wade and James he dominated on offense and was consistent. Don’t care for the Heat but its a good example.

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