Thursday, May 26th, 2011 at 9:11 am  |  176 responses

Post Up: Been There, Done That

Dirk and the Mavs cruise to the Finals.

Dallas 100, Oklahoma City 96

In the words of Samuel L. Jackson’s Pulp Fiction character Jules Winnfield, the German, Dirk Nowitzki, finally “shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness” and on to the NBA Finals after five long years in the Playoffs abyss.

Nowitzki hit the go-ahead three-pointer from the top of the key and iced two free throws to seal the 100-96 win over the Oklahoma City Thunder last night for the rights to the team’s second Western Conference crown in franchise history.

Thing is, Dirk’s been there, done that.

“We got one of those trophies already and it didn’t mean anything at the end,” said Nowitzki of the Western Conference trophy. “I think once you get to the Finals there is no second place finish.”

Dirk has demons to exorcise. All he can think about is letting the Miami Heat take four straight games on the way to the 2006 NBA title after his team was up 2-0 in the series. It was only compounded by the fact that the very next year, he took his team to the best record in the League and was bounced from the Playoffs in the first round by the eighth-seeded Golden State Warriors.

From there, the Mavs became regular-season stalwarts, but second-season afterthoughts. Now, in the immortal words of Diddy circa 1995, this is the remix. It would even be poetic justice if Miami closes out the Chicago Bulls to make it back to the NBA’s biggest stage themselves. Dirk would have the chance to slay the dragon that burned him. He’d finally get his do over against the very team that caused all of his nightmares. He could take the Larry O’Brien back from South Beach.

As otherworldly as Nowitzki has played this postseason, he’s worn a certain level of gravitas on his face, happy for each win but careful not to get caught up because he knows that he ain’t done “ish” yet. For the former MVP, the ultimate goal, the only goal, is the ring, the ‘chip, the redemption.

And that’s why, with all of its youth, and two superstars in Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, OKC was not going to stand in the German’s way.

It was evident in his near perfect Game 1 performance. It was cemented in his legend making, Larry Bird comparison-inducing, come from behind wizardry in Game 4 and it was written in the Game 5 clincher.

“He’s been unbelievable throughout the whole Playoffs,” said Tyson Chandler. “I really feel like he’s a man on a mission.”

The Thunder, for their part, played exceptionally well, leading the whole way behind James Harden’s superb play off the pine. The Bearded One finished with 23 points and 6 dimes. Russell Westbrook finished with a game-high 31 points, but only shot 11-28 from the field. The Thunder will be back, they will figure it out, they will get there…one day. Just not today.

Nowitzki and Shawn Marion each tallied 26 points, but the most important stat was their point total in the fourth quarter: Matrix for 15 and Dirk for 9. It’s been said that Marion is not the pogo stick athlete he once was with the Phoenix Suns, but his defense and key plays down the stretch made him an integral cog in the Mavs machine in this series.

Now, as the Mavs await the winner of the Eastern Conference Finals, they’ll look to remove Dirk and Jason Kidd from the list of great players to never win a ring. And if Mark Cuban has anything to say about it—and you know damn well he does—it’s well within reach.

“All I can tell everybody is…” said Mark Cuban during the trophy presentation. “We ain’t done yet.” — Maurice Bobb / @ReeseReport

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  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Nobody’s feelings are hurt, and I don’t have a problem with saying KD played poorly, because he did. But Russ West sabotaged that team with selfish play. I think that’s pretty obvious and all that anyone is saying.
    But leave it to you to champion Westbrook’s cause since in your opinion no one on SLAMonline or in the media is going to say or even willing to say, “Hey Durant… You suck!”

  • JTaylor21

    27 PPG-40.3% Shooting (on 23 shots a night, most in playoffs)-4.3RPG, 7.7APG, 3.7TO. It looks even worse when you realize (you probably don’t) that those numbers are from someone that’s SUPPOSED to be a Point Guard.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m assuming those numbers belong to Derrick Rose? What does he have to do with this? Nothing… Just you trying to make a point that isn’t there. As usual.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No’ones feelings get hurt. All you do is call players out and show nothing to back it up. You will bring up stats, but only the ones that support your argument. Completely ignorning the same exact stats that apply to the player your defending. Infact, you at one point this year were so adiment about Derrick Rose being overrated we had to deal with you complaining about him being a chucker, now, a couple months later we have to read you contradict yourself day in and day out, defending Russell Westbrook. Shut up about it, if you don’t have anything new to add then shut up. this took half a second on google FE: JTaylor21 Posted: Jan.16 at 1:52 pm
    When I was watching DWade down the stretch I was thinking “wow” Drose is still not on his level. I mean when a PG takes 27 shots, that’s more chucking that a woodchuck

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    In regards to that last quote from you. Russell Westbrook shot 28 shots last night. END OF DISCUSSION

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    This deserves a repost:
    JTaylor21 Posted: Jan.16 at 1:52 pm
    When I was watching DWade down the stretch I was thinking “wow” Drose is still not on his level. I mean when a PG takes 27 shots, that’s more chucking that a woodchuck.”
    Talk about contradicting yourself… Man, oh man. But like I said, that’s typical, and also predictable as I now wait for some variant of the ‘rose pedal’ joke.

  • T-Money

    Russ is a major eff up as a point guard, that’s not debatable. The thing is… RW doesn’t matter. He’s merely a good a scoring guard. KD is supposed to be transcendent, that’s the standard he has to live up to. So… standing 30 feet away from the hoop and meekly waving for the ball while your BACK UP POINT GUARD takes the most important shot of the season is not going to cut it. Sorry.

  • JTaylor21

    NBK: keeping e-thuggery alive one day at a time.
    When did I ever say that it’s was a good thing or that I supported a PG taking as many shots as Rose/Westbrook have taken so far in the playoffs? All I’m pleading for unbiased reporting and equal criticism.

  • T-Money

    General comment directed at the new breed of superstars: what’s up with all those 3s? IMO, the most valuable attribute of NBA superstars (1 through 5) is that they can score at the rim or penetrate deep into the defense to make others score. Role players and scrubs can’t do that consistently. I really don’t see why Bron, KD, Rose, Wade would ever shoot more than 2-3 threes a game. What for? Let the role players take the open 3s you create for them. Why is it ever a good idea to just dribble around and jack a 3 when you can get a shot closer to the hoop basically whenever you want to? That’s why I dig Dirk now more than ever. He only uses the 3 late in games when it’s needed.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    You can’t plead for “unbiased reporting and equal criticism” while being biased and unequally critical yourself. That’s just nonsense.
    And for the record, EVERYBODY is biased. There is no such thing as being unbiased. That’s fairytale ish.
    But hey, if you want to make a difference in the writing world, instead of posting your views here, do what most people do, start a blog. I’ve said that to you before.
    You obviously feel that you have a wealth of basketball knowledge that you want to share with the rest of the world, why waste it here? Makes no sense.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    When The best scorer in the league is only getting 1 less shot then a psuedo-pg who is extremely inefficient always its either the coach, or PG’s fault. If you follow more then just Thunder games you’d know that Russell Westbrook is actually the leader of the Thunder (according to Kevin Durant), you’d know they are the same age. I assume you’ll say you already knew those things, so assuming we are at an understanding. Explain to me how, (have you ever played competitive basketball? serious question) your PG and leader doesn’t realize he needs to take care of the ball and try and get his best scorer in the league sidekick going? Westbrook made double digit shot attempts once in the whole series, but his shot attempts per game went up every game but game 2 (the game the Thunder won, coincidence?). I would be critical of Durant if I saw a need, but it seems everyone realizes he made mistakes, especially at the end yesterday when Maynor went 1 on 1, why does it have to be complained about ad-nausieom for you to shut up? Westbrook and Brooks were the major problem for the whole series, and its been brought up to you every f’n day, have you acknowledged it once?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    T-Money, I don’t see anything wrong with shooting the 3 if you have the range to do so. I do see something wrong with continuing to take them if you’re not making them, though.
    And the assertion that guys just dribble around and “jack” 3′s shouldn’t be applied across the board like that, IMO. I don’t think that applies in every case.

  • JTaylor21

    All right, whatever. It just amazes me that people have such low standards for the supposed best scorer and the guy that was supposed to transcend the game. I’m sorry but when a team’s best player struggles while being guarded by a 38yr old PG and a 33yr old SF, he deserves a majority of the blame. The best player always receives the majority of praise when the team wins, so it’s only fair that he receives the same amount of criticism when the team losses.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    What does age have to do with it, why do you keep bringing age up? They are old’r yes, but they are two of the best defenders in the whole NBA over the last decade, and they have both been this far in the playoffs on multiple occassions. I said before the Portland series that against non-quick PG’s Kidd was still a premiere defender which is part of the reason I didn’t at all understand people picking Portland but that’s another conversation. (which wasn’t a respected opinion) Marion is still a prime defender, even if he’s 33 (did you make fun of the whole NBA in 98 when Jordan won a ring as the best player in the league, at 33?). I know the height difference, which you keep bringing up, like Durant shoots jump hooks or something. Russell Westrook was being guarded by Jason Terry and JJ Barea, please save me the sh*tty defender he should’ve dominated excuse, your ignoring the player your defending…..again.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    JTaylor, you’ve said that before and in theory, that makes a lot of sense. But that can’t be applied across the board. Role players have LONG gotten credit for wins, not just the star players. You should know this by now. So to make a blanket statement like that is false.
    Maybe should try being objective for once instead of always being stubborn for the hell of it.
    I’m out… Game 5 at the UC.
    Peace, y’all.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Game 6, my bad. Typo…

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Allenp: Why doesn’t Cuban deserve a ring for his team? Because he’s one of, if not the ONLY owner in basketball who actually supports his team EVERY GAME, takes pride in his team, is truly a fan of the game, and offers reasonably-priced playoff tickets to his fans (if I recall, the cheapest tickets out of any franchise in the league)?
    Because he’s not just in it for the money and WANTS to win because he actually likes basketball?
    He has a point about the Mavs being overlooked year in, year out. How many people thought the BLAZERS would take the Mavs out in the first round? How many people thought the Lakers would manhandle the Mavs? The only reason the Mavs were favored to beat OKC was because they swept the Lakers. Had they beat them in 7, OKC probably would have been the favorite.
    Also, where is Marc Cuban’s sense of entitlement? I don’t see it. Face it, everybody involved in sports, be it a fan, a front office executive, a player, or a coach, whines. A lot. Every basketball fan whines. We all do it. Just because he’s an uber rich, billionaire basketball fan doesn’t mean he can’t whine every now and then. He’s not whining about how hard his life is… he’s whining about basketball. Because we all do it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t blame Dwight Howard when Orlando loses, I don’t blame Chris Paul when New Orleans loses, I don’t blame and discount Deron Wiliams as a player for being on the Nets. Your complaints are without merit. The best player is blamed when the best player deserves to be blamed. (Durant did take the blame anyway, so what is your issue, that we don’t crucify the guy for having a rough series?)

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    I mean, I’m all for criticizing Westbrook just as the next person, but even I’m getting uncomfortable…
    He’s a 22-year-old who just made it to the conference finals, he did the same thing for five games and NO ONE CORRECTED HIM— his coach didn’t say “Russ, stop chucking shots!” and Durant didn’t say “Hey, Russell, give me the f’ing ball and let me create from the double team!”
    I don’t know what was said before and after the games, but I know NOTHING was said during the games. I know as a 22-year-old, I made mistakes. I had my bosses and teachers to yell and scream at me. The majority of blame should be put on Westbrook, but a lot needs to go on the management of the situation. I think Scott Brooks is a great coach but he tried to let the situation play out itself and that failed horribly.
    And of course, Durant could have had a better last two games, but having two former all-NBA defenders hanging on you must be a pain.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Jukai comes out of the woodwork with an extremely logical comment. Too bad it’s likely to be ignored, for the record, i agree with you.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    James Harden might be OKC’s best playmaker. J-MAC makes a good point–what about having Harden start at the PG and slide Westbrook to the SG? Permanently?
    The thing is, Westbrook CAN get assists when he wants to, but he’s so effective without the ball as well–and is by far their best cutter–that it’s almost a waste to have him handling the ball all the time.

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    Oh, NBK agrees with me. I change my mind disregard my 5:32 post.
    Just playin, man.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    hahaha lmao, where you been at?

  • JTaylor21

    It’s not only their age but it’s the height difference and the athletic/talent advantage a 6-10 SF is supposed to have over guys like that. Can you imagine someone like a 6-10 Legend (not comparing KD to LB but I might as well with the way the media hype him up) struggling while being checked by a 6-4 PG. I mean come on LB would have dropped 40-15 on dude without breaking a sweat and before you hit me with the “oh, it’s only KD’s 4th season”, Legend was in his 2nd season when he won the chip and dominated the finals putting up 22/14/6.
    So stop with the experience excuse because KD hasn’t shown anything in the playoffs to be labeled an elite player. Same with a couple of PGs that were selected to the first-second all-nba teams.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    He just led the playoffs in scoring. He’s 22. And he weighs 200LBs, Larry Bird was 230LBs, the height literally doesn’t matter if he doesn’t post up, as long as the defender stays in on Durant (or whoever’s) body so they can’t get an uninterrupted rhythm jumpshot. Which Kidd & Marion did magnificently. The Thunder’s offense (as we talked about yesterday) is to unimaginative to get him a good look, so he is left to do something he is not that great at, scoring on his own, off the dribble, against a defender who is quicker then him. does durant have issues? obviously, but so did Michael, Kobe, Shaq, LeBron, everyone at that age. The age difference is still irrelevant, Durant isn’t supremely quick or strong (the only things you lose with age)

  • J-MAC

    KD should of been way more clutch. I remember that as topic on here and people were going on about him being one of the most clutch guys…he’s not. Granted he is still young but he didnt take over when it counted. He should demand the ball

  • JTaylor21

    Aight good point but if he can’t get past JKidd and Marion shouldn’t we rethink his rank among the L’s elite players? I’m sorry but the man isn’t a Top-5 player, Top-10….maybe.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Idk let’s hash it out. LBJ, Wade, Bryant, Howard I think are the universal top 4 (I would put Dirk ahead of Bryant (BLASPHEMY)). I say its LBJ, Wade, Howard, Dirk, CP3. Then 6-10 – Kobe Bryant, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, X. I say Durant is top 9. what you got?

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    Jtaylor: The two people who iso-guarded Jordan the best were Payton and Dumars. Sometimes smaller defenders are the best option.
    Let’s face it, Durant is VERY BIG for the SF spot. That should mean he’s slower, but he’s not, that is his advantage. He was being guarded by smaller, quicker defenders to prevent him from cutting, and in the last two games, it was clear Durant’s shot was off. That’s fine, it happens, whenever Durant got into one of his “sweet spots” they doubled him and Durant wasn’t hitting well from spots he doesn’t like (generally straight ot the basket).
    I get your criticism, and I do think it comes from Durant being overhyped this summer, but he’s still 22 man. He has time to improve. I don’t think his ceiling is Bird-esque but I think it’s pretty high and I’m excited to see it. I’ll give Durant a pass here. His team wasn’t supposed to make the conference finals anyway.
    I’m a bit harder on Westbrook because he didn’t play his game, he was playing a lot more like he was the first option on the team– something I’m also sure will be fixed in time. No need to raise the red flags, but yeah, Westbrook changed his game in the playoffs for the worse. Durant was just cold for half the games. There’s a difference.

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: Well, with the emergence of Rose and Dirk showing he’s still got it, Durant’s end-of-season ranking is definitely lower than his beginning-of-season ranking, without a doubt. But dropping from top-5 to top-7 really shouldn’t be a big deal when you’re only 22, no?

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    NBK: I’ve been around, still read the comments. For a while, I ducked out because I was just tired with the people taking other peoples’ names, and writing the most hateful, racist things you will hear. Seeing terribly racist things being left for weeks without a moderator touching it made me totally withdraw from the board for a while. I see it’s gotten a bit better so I’m wetting my feet again. That’s all.
    I don’t mind arguing with peeps, it doesn’t really effect me. But seeing all that hate, and having people use me and Rico and Eboy’s name, and then get all the blame for it, well that upset me a bit. If you’re upset on a message board, ya gotta back off and get some real life air.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Wait, so stumbling in the Playoffs means you’re not “elite”? Word? So what are you then? A bum? Garbage? Average or mediocre? Damn, for real? Melo had 2 good games in the postseason and struggled in the other 2. So he’s not considered elite anymore? Dwight Howard couldn’t will his team to advance, so he’s not elite now? Russ West and DRose are the 2 most unstoppable PG’s in the game on the offensive side of the ball. Both struggled, so they’re no longer considered elite, huh?
    And people say this ish while at the same time getting upset at people’s refusal to take them seriously. This is why…
    Oh yeah, experience and age do matter in basketball as well as in life, too. Just want to throw that one out there.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I feel you Jukai, someone on here saw my e-mail and called me by my actual name on here, I was annoyed by that. Good to have you back n the mix if you stay, i’ve always enjoyed arguing with you haha

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Oh, and by the logic used to define “elite,” that would suggest that there are only two and a half elite players in the ENTIRE NBA: Dirk, LBJ and Chris Bosh.

  • http://dsjkflf.com Jukai

    BC: When I think elite, the first name that comes to my mind is Chris Bosh.

  • JTaylor21

    Top5- CP/DHow/Dirk/Bron/Wade
    Top6-10- DWill/Rose/KD/KB/ZBo
    Juaki, fair points but if smaller players are his kryptonite, that’s going to dog him for his entire career especially when his shot aren’t falling. A wise man once told me that a player’s shot comes and goes but rebounding, defense and playmaking skills are there to stay. KD can not create shots for others, he’s below average on the defensive end and he’s an average rebounder for someone his size. So when his shots isn’t falling (which will happen from time to time), he becomes an average player. That’s not a good thing for a guy that was supposed to transcend the game. LB’s shot wasn’t falling, he played D, dominated the boards and created looks for others. Same for Bron, MJ, and any other elite perimeter player. I just don’t see KD being able to dominate a game when his shots aren’t falling.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And as we all know, in your mind, you’d be right and willing to argue that point to the bitter end, haha.

  • http://www.slamonline.com unf*ckwitable

    lol Jtaylor whats your top ten look like without Durant in it? 1.LBJ 2.LBJ 3.LBJ 4.LBJ 5.LBJ 6.LBJ 7.LBJ 8.LBJ 9.LBJ 10.LBJ. Its so obvious you hate any player that fans consider to be top 3 or 4, Rose, Kobe , Durant. All players you spent a sh*tload of time talking crap about. If Dwade wasnt on brons team u would hate him too. Dont worry evey true bball fan realises Lebron is the best in the league whether they admit it or not, u can stop ur little crusade.

  • http://www.slamonline.com unf*ckwitable

    Its so ridiculous to watch u crucify Rose for chucking up shots then forgive Westbrook for it. How the f*ck is Durant sposed to carry his team when Westbrook is jacking up 28 shots.

  • JTaylor21

    I think there’s a difference between being “elite” and being great or very good. In my opinion there are only about 10-15 all-time elite players while there are between 25-30 all-time great players. The same situation applies in today’s game; there are only about 4-5 elite players while there are 6-8 great players.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Good to see you on here, Jukai.
    unf*ckwitable is on point, just slightly short of Unf★ckwitable™

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    I hate when people on here call me by my actual name…
    Oh, and BC…wifey’s half in on moving back to Illinois…I say half cause she’s trying to push me into going to NIU…in freakin’ Dekalb!!!
    I’ll hit you up bout it later tho…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    JTaylor – did you sincerely mean that when you put Zbo in your top 10 or were you just out of ideas to get a reacton out of me? haha, just saying, I couldn’t let that slide. are you nuts kid?

  • JTaylor21

    Damn, how many times do I have to say that I’m not a fan of any PG let alone Westbrook taking 25+ shots. Sheeeeeeeeeeeit, I give up. Westbrook is a bum, it’s all his fault, Rose is 10 times better and KD’s the second coming of Christ.

  • JTaylor21

    NBK, all right react! After watching dude dominate TD and the spurs then damn near out-dueled Westbrook/KD by his damn self, why wouldn’t he be in my Top-10. This has nothing to do with the past, it’s all about what have you done lately.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Yeah, I was wondering about Z-Bo being in there too.
    And JTaylor’s top 5 players are Bron….Bron…Bron, Bron, Bron!
    Cause he spits hot fiyah!

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    That’s wassup, Rigo… Hit me and tell me the scoop.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    JTaylor, do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? You’re effectively saying that great players and elite players are two different things. How do you justify this in your mind and then have the balls to say it out loud?

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    He doesn’t say it out loud, Bryan.
    He’s humble and quiet in real life, like Derrick Rose, remember?
    Sorry JT, couldn’t help myself!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You mean what ZBo did in Memphis? Cuz he wasn’t anywhere near a top 10 player away from home (Away from Memphis in the playoffs – 19.6PPG on 6.8 for 15 shooting), And all he did was score & rebound, idk about you, but I know a lot of slam has the habit of thinking basketball is a one way sport. You have effictively called one of the worst defensive players in the NBA a top 10 player. you realize that right?

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