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Thursday, May 19th, 2011 at 9:15 am  |  211 responses

Post Up: The Sound of War

Udonis Haslem helps Heat to crucial road win.

Miami 85, Chicago 75

Game 2 started as if the Chicago Bulls were trying to put the Miami Heat away early. The Heat started out sluggish and the Bulls capitalized, getting the crowd involved early. Whether it was Luol Deng going coast-to-coast for a dunk, or making a buzzer beater to end the first quarter, Chicago looked as if they were clicking on all cylinders and it looked like it was going to be a long night for the South Beach boys.

But in the second quarter, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade took over and the 7-point lead that Chicago held at the end of the opening quarter turned into a 2-point lead for Miami going into halftime.

In the third quarter the Heat outscored Chicago 28-19, largely on the play of Udonis Haslem – seemingly having his own Brandon Roy Playoff moment – who saw extended minutes for the first time in the postseason. His energy was great as he hustled on the glass, hit open jumpers and dunked on anybody in his way. But regardless of how poorly the Bulls played and in spite of being down by 11-points at one point in the third, Miami was still unable to put any real distance between themselves and Chicago and the Bulls entered the fourth quarter with a 6-point lead.

In the final quarter the defense tightened up on both sides but Chicago still managed to go on a small run early to tie the game with just under 6 minutes left in regulation, shifting the momentum back toward the Bulls and putting the pressure on Miami to find a way to fight through adversity as the Heat went scoreless for over five minutes.

But Chicago then went into a four-minute cold spell of their own and Miami turned to LeBron James who led the team on 12-2 run (scoring 9 points himself) to which they never looked back and they’ve now evened the series at a game apiece. Game 2 was more indicative of close, grind it out type of game that many people expected to see in this series as opposed to the 21-point drubbing the Bulls put on the Miami in Game 1.

The Heat’s defense was suffocating, forcing the Bulls into a 34 percent shooting from the field and 15 percent from behind the three-point line. Derrick Rose, after playing very well in the first game, really struggled as the Miami D kept him out of the lane and forced him into a 7-23 shooting night. He also didn’t get much help from his supporting cast as Luol Deng was the only other starter in double-figure scoring with 13-points. Chicago did get solid bench production once again but Miami countered that with the play of the aforementioned Haslem who contributed 13 stellar points.

It was a must win game for the Heat and they went out and did what they had to do which was get a split in the Windy City. For Chicago, the series now transitions to South Beach for Game 3 on Sunday and has been their MO all season, the Bulls will be looking to bounce back from a sub par performance. – BryanCrawford / @_BryanCrawford

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  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Bron Bron doing work.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I think last night’s game is indicative of the results the rest of the series is going to end up as. The regular season games were all nip and tuck and the two teams defenses are just so good, breaking into the 90′s seems almost ridiculous. I write off Game 1 as a mirage as a final score…..and while the Bulls aren’t laying down for anyone…..I think their offense (and their shooting percentage) is going to be their undoing. If you limit their second chance points, they truly struggle to score the ball. I blame Popcorn Muscles for that. The Heat have two guys that can get points whenever they need them (in theory)….the Bulls have one. It’s a numbers game and I think the ability to generate offense falls more in the Heat’s favor over a long series. There won’t be any other blowouts in this series. I think Game 3 is the telling game of the series. If the Bulls can scrap that win…I think they can win the series, at home in Game 7. But…if the Heat win, I think they take Game 4 too (riding momentum as the series shifts to a more normal 1 day off between games) and head back to Chicago up 3-1 and will close it in Game 6 back in Miami. If Rose get’s worn down a bit, the Bulls will lose their mojo. If either Wade of Bron wears down a bit, the other can pick up the slack. I felt this way at the beginning of the series and I’ll stick with the Heat in six pick for that reason alone.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And for those that thought missing Haslem for most of the season had no bearing on the Heat’s gameplan and rotations and ability to have a more balanced bench and some grit….well, go f*ck yourselves. Thanks.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    When the Bulls were looking for that second scorer in the 4th, Deng could not create his own shot. He is great catching on the move, or catching when his defender is on the move, but if he and his defender are stationary (and his defender is a locked-in LeBron James), Deng will be in trouble.
    Boozer could still be that second scorer, but Rose is a different type of PG to Deron, who basically spoon fed Boozer at times.

  • Bruno

    cosign eboy and it’s happening more often damn!!

  • Dwyane

    Good article. Just a small typo “In the third quarter the Heat outscored Miami 28-19″

    Thanks!

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    The Bulls had their chances, but they just could not hit the open shots they did in game one.Kyle Korver needs to realize that the only reason he made it to the NBA was because he hit shots……Props to LBJ for closing out the game ….Lebron has almost never been able to hit a game-wining buzzer beater ,but he has always been able to close out a game in the last five/three minutes ….I respect that almost as much as the buzzer beating game winner.

  • MrSuper

    Dirggler vs Heat in the finals.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’m not convinced that either the Heat or the Bulls can beat the Mavs in a 7 game series the way that team is playing right now, but you can be certain Dirk and his boys will get more bruises and blood stained jersey’s playing the Eastern Conference rep, that is if the Mavs indeed get there, and will be dealing with a team that won’t be fascinated by a big scoring player that has take over ability.

  • thawindy

    Its only one game. The Bulls needed a timeout after both teams couldnt score in the 4th. Spos called timeout Heat run a set and lbj hits a three. Bulls just couldn’t buy a bucket. Partly becuz of Heat D partly becuz their shots just didn’t fall down. Good job by the Heat to make plays.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    if there’s a positive to take away from this game, its that the heat shot something like 47%, and the bulls shot like 34%.
    the final score isn’t even indicative of how close it actually was, they were tied for the longest time and the bulls could have been up if they MADE THEIR DAMN FREE THROWS.
    both defenses played great and this was the type of series we all expected.
    but if they bulls’ other starters and bench (ahem, KORVER) aren’t producing, the bulls will be done. quick.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Dirk is the biggest mismatch in the league. The majority of his shots are contested some what, but he is so big and has perfect balance on every attempt, that it almost literally does not matter what kind of defence you play.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    AllBall….I think Taj Gibson and Noah would give him fits. Udonis Haslem gave him fits in the ’06 Finals throughout the series. I can see Bron playing him very well for stretches too. Dirk is ridiculous but these two teams will have a rock solid plan for how to deal with his greatness. This I’m certain. Dirk could get 30 a game….but they’ll be a hard 30.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Dirk in 06 is not the same as Dirk now. It does not matter how well they contest his shots, we have seen that through out the post season. Right now, he is playing the best ball of his career.
    If by a tough 30 you mean, every shot is with a hand in his face, no easy buckets, I agree. They will not be able to force him into multiple shooting games below 50%, how ever.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    That will remain to be seen.

  • http://www.boobgiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    The TV analysis of this game really took away from how good this game was. Feels like they harp on the same couple talking points the whole game and then just flip out of nowhere. Everything is heaven or hell as if they dont know what momentum or “runs” are.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Well, Kerr and Miller hate the Heat. When Haslem crushed Bogans there was tv silence for about 3 seconds. Later, when he went over Rose, there was a minor raise in volume by Marv Albert. As opposed to the male ejaculation that occurred on Gibson’s two dunks in Game 1….well, as we in the MIA have been saying all season, keep hatin’….and go f*ck yourselves. Analysts, writers, fans, whoever. We’re still playing ball. 7 more wins and the basketball apocalypse occurs.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    This is the first time in a long time that I actually blame Rose for the loss. He missed a lot of easy shots and forced a lot of shots in the 4th quarter. Bulls need to tighten up on their transition D too and either foul or let the Heat score on fast breaks, not both…multiple times.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Kerr and Miller hate the Heat? Care to elaborate Eboy. Miller is an awful announcer any way, but I like Stever Kerr.

  • NoCo

    Dirk is playing great, but it took a legendary game from him only missing three total shots to beat the Thunder at home. That’s also with a not so stellar game from Westbrook. While Dirk is good and will get his, you can’t reasonably expect that to happen again this post season.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    If the Thunder continue to single cover Dirk, he will continue to torch them. You send another guy at Dirk, they will swing the ball and light it up from 3.
    Chandler and Haywood had a lot to do with Westbrook missing those shots at the rim.

  • http://slamonline.com 1982

    With 5-6 minutes left, this game could have gone either way. Great defensive effort from both sides, but Bron had a chip on his shoulder. It was like the last Boston game, and this game he wanted to shut up the people who didn’t consider him a closer. This is hardly the dismantling of the Pistons a few years back, but he’s got something to prove. And it’s entertaining as all hell…

  • http://Slam Mac411

    I’d like to thank everyone on here for giving out a good description of the game ( I missed it) cause trying to get one from these other sites/tv without a bias has been damn near impossible. And Go Bulls!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    AllBall….just listen to their back and forth. They (as do most of the TNT guys except for C-Webb) have contempt for the Heat. It’s all good and expected….but back in the day, unless you were a local broadcaster, bias on national broadcast coverage really didn’t exist….well unless Michael Jordan was playing, and let’s be honest, there’s no Michael Jordan’s playing in any of these games.

  • HAMMER

    Still say Bulls n 7. If Rose had a better game, Bulls would indeed b up 2-0. So, yeah. Still confident

  • http://www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Eboy, I honestly think naitonal media members play into the “Heat hate” because it forces casual basketball fans to embrace the villain/hero dynamic. There is no Lakers/Celtics matchup to generate casual interest, so analysts/commentators embrace the DRose is humble guy with no attitude vs. The Heatles guaranteed 7 championships during their summer parade. Its all smoke and mirrors for the fans. Apples & trees.

  • http://www.boobgiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    @Eboy i dunno who they do or dont & and its not even bias that im talking about. its that they stay on on one extreme and just to the oppiste like its nothing. Haslem was on his run and there going on about hes breaheing life into Miami with his energy and then he misses a jumpshot so hes to tiard and hes need to hit the bench. Or Miami cant harping on how Miami cant matchup for half the game and then jumping to Chicago “cant handle” Miami anyone. Why do they even need 3 people in the booth (esp when Reggie is one of them).

  • T-Money

    1- Reggie and Steve Kerr were almost sobbing as Miami was pulling away. Weird. 2- Pat Riley’s vision was finally materialized at the start of the 4th quarter. Wade-Miller-James-UD-Bosh. All excellent rebounders at their respective spots. 3- Having UD and Miller on the bench changes absolutely everything for Miami. 4- Booz will never fail to disappoint.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Taj Gibson should start the rest of the series. Asik too.

  • http://www.boobgiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    I wonder if Boozer knows how ridiculous he looks/sounds when he out there.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    yeah, i can’t lie, eboy’s right.
    at first i thought it was just the local ESPN station labeling this matchup as, seriously now, “Good vs. Evil”.
    but then i heard mike and mike say it, i guess they’re all buying into it.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    taj should start, but not asik. noah’s still playing okay, not quite in the doghouse boozer’s in right now.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    It does seem like the announcers have certain story lines and they are trying to fit everything into those. One time they talked about how Miami playing big guards will force Chicago to put Rose on Wade. Wade did not play any more aggressively when Rose was guarding him, and I think only scored on Rose once. Steve Kerr tried to play it up though saying how Wade had scored on Rose on consecutive possessions.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    airs….BUT…..Gibson and Asik seem to have a much better handle of the Heat’s offensive sets. Boozer is horrible on that side of the ball and he’s just taking up space. I’m sure he’s going to have one really strong game somewhere in this series…but he’s been horrible.

  • Bye bye

    Boozer is dead

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If they send Boozer to the bench, what happens to their bench advantage?

  • http://bulls.com airs

    i’ve all but given up on boozer.
    i was hoping his game 6 against the hawks was a sign of things changing for him, but nope.
    and it’s not like he wasn’t getting his looks either, but maybe the bulls just need to run a few plays for him early to get his rhythm going.
    gibson and asik have been balling lately, but thibodeau is a creature of habit, he won’t change the starting lineup too drastically.

  • Bye bye

    Players aren’t gonna want to play with Chicago if thibs give u no chance foe errors u make 1 mistake u on that bench even rose has been benched
    Who wants to play for a coach like him not free agents trying to get paid

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If free agents don’t want to play the way Thibs coaches, then they really don’t want to win. And I truly believe that. Dude is a great coach.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Bulls need to figure out a way to get CJ Watson some good looks too. Dude comes in, basically takes Chalmers virginity each time they step on the court together, and then, after a few really good ball pressure situations he creates, kind of vanishes. I do think there are moments when the rest of the Bulls just think Rose is going to bail them out and kind of play tentative on the offensive side of the ball. Watson seems to come in to the game thinking D only and never really gets his O going in any way.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    what? thibs gives players plenty of opportunities to play. if you fvck up, why would he keep you in?
    its called being held accountable, he runs a tight ship and its gotten them to the ECF.
    and free agents would get paid before they got there anyway.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    the biggest letdown yesterday for wasn’t even booz, it was kyle korver.
    i mean, he struggled against ATL too, he’s supposed to be our knockdown shooter and he had like 3 pts? on 7 shots. 1-5 from 3pt, thats not acceptable from a shooter like him. a few of them were WIDE open too. and thibs left him in too long.
    i honestly feel like if he hit even just a couple more, the momentum from it could have changed the game.

  • Showtime

    @all i don’t think you double dirk. that free up the dallas shooter for a open shot. If he gets 40 he gets 40 . You just dont let no one else beat you.

  • Bye bye

    He let korver stay on the floor plus he took Noah out for no reason they got no second shots when he was on the bench they played good defense but they arent great rebounders

  • HAMMER

    Still say series is going 7. If Rose had played better, indeed Bulls would b up 2-0. So, yeah. Still confident

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Bulls need a birthing coach to keep them breathing when Derrick Rose isn’t wearing his Godzilla costume

  • JTaylor21

    All those people talking about there was nothing the Heat could do about the Bulls rebounding and second chance points look at you now!!
    Like I said before the game all they had to do was box out, limit CHI’s second chance points, and Bron/Wade grab at least 9 rebs. What I didn’t expect was Haslem to show up and grab 5 huge rbs.
    The blueprint to beating the bulls is limiting their second-chance points and keeping them off the offensive glass, MIA did that yesterday.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Or Fabolous. Ha, sounds like deja vu…
    Like I said on twitter last night, I been a fan of Haslem since his Florida days.
    I’m obviously rooting for him and his team to lose, but you really can’t knock the hustle. Dude is a beast.
    The Bulls were absolutely horrible in the 4th.
    I read somewhere that their 10 points in the 4th was a franchise record for lowest points in a quarter.
    Ugh.
    But like airs said, to shoot under 40% from the field, and miss a sh*tload of free throws and only lose by 10 is the only positive.
    If either of these teams wins the next two, this series is over for the other team.
    Neither of these teams can come back from down 3-1 against the other teams’ suffocating defense.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah fabolous, only 20+ people saw that last night so I thought it’s ok to echo that sentiment again lol… and Chicago is fine, I’ve been reading stuff all morning like Miami has already beaten Chicago and LeBron put on some kind of virtuoso performance to close out the game. Which is just patently not true, the reason the game went the way it did was defense, LeBron scoring 9 in the last 4 minutes was dope, but when a quarter score is 14-10 nobody was clutch on offense, one team just struggled enough to get by.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    CHI still had 7 more off. rebs. although i don’t know what the 2nd chance points situation was.
    heat did have more def. rebounds and 4 more rebounds total.
    the difference was really just wade and james showing up, and haslem was a catalyst last night.
    bulls supporting cast disappeared when rose needed them most and they all shot horribly.
    still a close game, but the bulls have a lot to work on.

  • T-Money

    my only gripe with thibs is that he is very rigid in his subs patterns. cj subs for d-rose, they’re never on the court together. asik for noah, taj for booz, korver, brewer, bogans rotating, and deng basically always on the floor. / who else caught kerr saying that miami would be in troube offensively when they had wade-miller-james-ud-bosh on the floor? that’s their best offensive line up! lol

  • namik

    I find this “underdog” status that the Heat and its fan keep going on about hilarious. People hate them because the two best players in the game (and Bosh) got together to bully the rest of the NBA because they didn’t think they could do it alone. Not because they’re “haters”. Strange how all the Miami fans are starting to sound exactly like them annoying Lakers fans.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    tmoney, thats not true. sometimes, though not very often, cj plays the one and rose at 2, they did it a few times against indy.
    but you’re right, thibs is very rigid with his rotations

  • T-Money

    oh and having bibby setting screens on lbj to make sure that korver (bulls’ worst defender) was involved in every play down the stretch was a brilliant move by spo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh namik…..you know not what you speak about….but you’re still a nice guy. No one is claiming the Heat as underdogs, that’s what Bulls fans, the media and every other b*tch with a pulpit tried to tout before Game 1. Being an underdog and being despised are worlds apart. you have to know that before you jump into the fray.

  • JTaylor21

    Rigo, you too just like every other bulls fans are fans of “moral” victories, huh? What does it matter that they shot bad and still lost by 10pts?
    A loss is a loss, the Bulls dominant GM1 win still counts as one win on CHI’s side and MIA’s “fortunate” (according to bulls fans) GM2 win also counts as one win on MIA’s side. So stop all that “the bulls played turrible and only lost by 10″ crap. Moral victories is for the pigeons.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    riiiiiight.
    and rose shooting too many shots yet getting a win isn’t just “a win is a win”.
    its somehow “they won but rose is putting up too many damn shots”

  • namik

    Just as long as we all know which is which, I’m good.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Well, I knew it wouldn’t take long for Eboy to start calling Bulls fans b*tches…
    JTaylor, it obviously doesn’t matter for game two, what I’m trying to say is it’s a positive for the future, something to build on, if they tighten up a few things they can win the next one, etc. etc.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    smh

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I could have swore Bulls were the underdog…like vegas has them, and like half the posters on here had them…talking about a Heat v Mavs series before they even closed out the Celtics.

  • JTaylor21

    Is that tears I see?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    The “Kingsmen” showed up and exacted destruction and vengeance upon their foes.
    They drank ale, as they have overcaoe their hangover from a few nights ago… and collected the night’s booty, for The King led his men to victory.
    Now, the Bulls shall lick their wounds, and saddle up thy calvary, for this epic AND basketball holy battle has just begun.
    The wolves howl. The foal of the air disperse in an expeditious fury. The peasant rents his garment, spits, and cries out to the basketball gods! The masses of gentiles AND peasants alike await in anticipation and expectation, for we are witness.
    LONG… LIVE… THE KING.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You need to learn how to read the English language, Pedro from the Real World. I said Bulls fans…standing alone….every other bit*h was in reference to all the losers wishing the Heat to lose since their garbage teams are out of the playoffs. Live it. Learn it. Love it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Check the Vegas line on the game last night. See who the underdog was in that game. If you have trouble, use Google Translator. Thanks.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Hey, nbk:
    Did you receive the e-mail that I sent you?

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    =*[..i mean what tears

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I actually just saw it this morning, it went into my junk folder for some reason, maybe because your reply said “uknown poster” idk. I’ll hit you back with one pretty soon got a few other things to run by you.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I’m talking about the favorites going into the series…which is what you were complaining about. Obviously the line changed when the Bulls blew out the Heat in game one.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    :(

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    :)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ;)

  • JTaylor21

    Okay, when did Vegas gamblers become basketball experts? You know something is wrong when people start believing what a bunch of shady characters think about the outcome of a game.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    did it change? I think Miami has been favored the whole time, even after game 1. Honestly I’m getting sick of the Heat love after that game last night. You’d think they played great and closed out the game like a bunch of poets from all the crap that has been published today. The series just started, no reason for either fan base to get too excited about anything.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    nbk….back it down, homeboy. Stop using Twitter as your gauge on how the game is viewed by rational people.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I’m out for the day, but I’ll leave with a *taking notes for the rest of the series*

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    “And ever other b*tch”, meaning one could also take it as you including the media and Bulls fans in that equation.
    And damn, that sh*t was funny at first, but you’re enjoying this calling me by other Latino’s names and saying blatantly if not thinly failed racist sh*t a little too much.
    References to sombreros, not understanding the english language, and so on and so on.
    Sorry to dissapoint you, I was Mexican-American before I started going by my real name on here.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ao6zCPR2Fgod4MpWDMaE0eG8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lebron_james_michael_jordan_bulls_heat_east_finals_051811 nbk

    You want me to start posting articles I’ve read today? Click my name right now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You’re getting mad? For real? Like you think I’m trying to f*ck with you? Damn kid, I know your team lost and all last night, but chill homie. It ain’t even like that. BTW, stop interjecting your heritage into every conversation you have with cats on this site….people here know what your nationality is, you ethnic background and you, more than anyone, have joked about it. Damn. there should be a commenting block until this series is over, for real.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    nbk:
    Yeah, my name is on my gmail account now. (Parmenides)

  • JTaylor21

    Oh oh. Rigo’s channeling his inner Cesar Chavez or should I say inner Ernesto Galarza or maybe his inner Emiliano Zapata. Viva Mexico!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • T-Money

    putting james on rose at the end of the game was brilliant too. not something you want to do for the whole game but it makes it very difficult for d-rose to shoot over the top in crunch time. the jumpers james got at the end, rose can not get with bron covering him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So nbk….you’re saying that Wojo’s article is Bible to what the rest of the world should be thinking in regards to this series? One article? Should I be calling for the beheading of Michale Wilbon and Sam Smith each time they throw their disgustingly biased words on a website somewhere? GTFOH. All of a sudden dudes around here are catching feelings like a motherfU*ker.

  • feez22

    @nbk the heat fans should be excited. they stole homecourt and beat a team that blew the doors off them game 1. almost everyone and their mama proclaimed that after game 1 the bulls were gonna destroy the series. The bulls again got a high amount of off. rebounds but could not capitalise. I keep hearing people say that the bulls didn’t play well yet they almost still won… fact is they lost. This game 2 was pretty much a carbon copy of the heat/celts games 1,2,4&5. All of those games were tied in the 4th and then the heat went on their crazy 12-2 or 16-0 runs and won the game. the heat have experience with this kind of thing. the bulls dealt with this in the pacer series but… the heat aint a 36 minute team like the pacers. Unless the role players+bench play lights out in miami (which i highly doubt… stars headline road games)then they can win. Bulls fans were ecstatic after game one. now that heat fans are giddy after game 2 i dont think its a problem. They just stole home court. let me reiterate… they stole what the bulls have worked for all season. if you aren’t giddy about that than why be a fan of a team?

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ao6zCPR2Fgod4MpWDMaE0eG8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lebron_james_michael_jordan_bulls_heat_east_finals_051811 nbk

    Parmenides? you’ve been around since what the 5th century BC? lol – JTaylor consistently trying to start a fight, or join one. what else is new

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Actually, f*ck it….I’ve been dealing with potshots and insults toward me and the team I root for since July. I’m used to that sh*t. Cats need to grow up if criticism of a poor effort is too much to handle. 10 months of this sh*t has made me pretty immune to it.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Eboy going in…
    lol @nbk. Yeah.
    I don’t know. lol

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ao6zCPR2Fgod4MpWDMaE0eG8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lebron_james_michael_jordan_bulls_heat_east_finals_051811 nbk

    Lol E, I obviously don’t agree with what Wajwqioaski I’m just saying I have read 3-4 articles with a similar theme. Talking about LeBron played so clutch and is helping Riley get the Michael Jordan monkey off his back. I am not saying Heat fans shouldn’t be excited, or real Heat fans like you EBoy don’t have the right to throw sh*t right back at Bulls fans like some of them did/would have done after game 1. But I just don’t enjoy reading “professional” articles that have a theme that what Miami has already done in this ECF is worth even celebrating.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Nah Philo, I got love for certain cats here…and then all of a sudden jokes ain’t funny anymore when THEY choose to have them not be. I’ll abide by their wishes (and that’s their right to let me know), but they need to make that sh*t known and not get heated on a day when basketball is the catalyst for the anger.

  • JTaylor21

    Yawn!!! What else is new? yet another day of NBK obsessing about JTaylor and yet another day of NBK letting his stalker side come out.
    Now I know why there’s always a black van outside my house.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    nbk…I think it was mentioned earlier…there is so much competition for dudes to get read today, I guess writing anything with a bit of inflammatory sense to it gives them larger readership.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    E, you interject my heritage way more than I do!
    I rarely bring that sh*t up.
    No one even knew what nationality I was until last year’s playoffs with that Suns/Spurs series when the whole Arizona immigration law thing came up on here.
    And I’m pretty sure I told you before that that sh*t got tired. Don’t act like this is the first time I brought that up.
    Alls I’m saying is, what the f*ck does my name or heritage have to do with any of this sh*t?
    Let’s leave that out and stick to ball.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    just read yesterdays post up, shout out to nbk.
    mos def is my dude, ms. fat booty is like much morning alarm.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    pretty much my*

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ao6zCPR2Fgod4MpWDMaE0eG8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lebron_james_michael_jordan_bulls_heat_east_finals_051811 nbk

    Eboy – ahh yes I didn’t even think of it from a competitive business standpoint. Just a “you should be trying to be neutral and intelligent because that’s what I want to read” standpoint. I should prolly just start ignoring all of types of articles.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Actually, nah, the name thing is pretty funny, I can’t lie.
    But the jokes are out.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No problem….ball only from hear out.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    *here

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ao6zCPR2Fgod4MpWDMaE0eG8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lebron_james_michael_jordan_bulls_heat_east_finals_051811 nbk

    haha airs that’s whats up!

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    I like reading Wojnoloveforbonski’s articles, but never take them seriously.
    You do, Soop?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    nbk…I agree with you…but even look at SLAM and their daily content on the site. When the Lakers have sh*t going in their favor Marcel make’s it known with 5,6,7,8 (shout out to Bron)articles about their dominance. How many terribly slanted articles appeared here regarding Bron’s status and the way he handled his business? A few dozen? That was never SLAM’s way in the past…but now? They have to compete with all these other on-line outlets and blogs. It’s hard to be neutral or unassuming, I guess.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I’m posting this so if you click on my name it doesn’t automatically bring you to a Yahoo article that I vehemently disagree with.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No, matic generally I read them on accident lol. I don’t like wojioutahski, haven’t since he wrote something that I found to be totally stupid in like 2006 right around when I first started posting on slam.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    How do you cut your elbow on a man’s neck?! Yikes. Bulls missed shots and layups, the Heat did a great job jumping into the Bulls bigs for fouls.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah I actually noticed that Slam had more questionable topic articles over the course of this season, I didn’t chalk it up as a need to compete, well actually I didn’t really even think about it. Today it seemed like every full length article I read to start my morning was rife with Heat/LeBron uber love and I was pretty annoyed.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    E – come on now, it’s never “ball only”, you know that. We sidetrack about all kinds of stuff on here. And you know I always got respect for you, sh*t I’ll probably send you some more drunk DMs one of these days.
    Just asking that you tone it down a bit.
    But not all the way, cause then you wouldn’t be Eboy.
    Anyways –
    Ms. Fat Booty is the sh*t!
    How about Black Star?
    “Respiration” was my jam on there?

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    JTaylor – I’ll take Emiliano Zapata.
    I never worked on a farm…didn’t even know who the hell Galarza was. lol

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Sorry y’all, don’t let TPU die today on account of my militant browness.
    How bout them Heat?!
    Bastards…

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    respiration was fvckin dope man, although there’s something about talib i don’t really like, i can’t put my finger on it really.
    mos had a few hits, but the new danger was pretty wack i thought, and his experimental rock group, if y’all remember black jack johnson, that was wack too.
    but umi says, do it now, ms fat booy. that was my sh*t.
    and anything he did on chappelles show hahah

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Oh man, dude went OFF on Chapelle’s Show.
    I think Talib’s good, but he’s overrated.
    I mean, I certainly don’t think he’s a better lyricist than Jay-Z, despite what Jay-Z himself said on “Moment of Clarity”.
    How about Mos Def, Phaoroe Monch and Nate Dogg (RIP) on “Oh No”?
    Also, last night I listened to an album I hadn’t heard in a while, and it’s gotta be one of my all time favorites.
    Cormega’s “The True Meaning”.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    oh no was dope too.
    have any of you ever heard of typical cats?

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    I have now…
    Nah, never heard of them.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I wonder how Haslem’s foot feels today. And the more I see Sail and Gibson the more I wonder why the bulls spent 71 million on Boozer. He doesn’t even play in the clutch!

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    I think the Bulls, while they were impressed with Gibson, didn’t really know how much he’d keep improving.
    I wouldn’t mind if Boozer was traded this summer.
    Is Boozer tradeable though?
    I mean, would ANYONE take on that contract?

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    if they could trade gil. i think its possible.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye9PFytSFXw&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlIJS_e3HL0&feature=related
    ^just a couple typical cats songs, dunno if its your guys’ cup of tea though.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    “Oh no” was a classic…

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    How bout “Double Trouble” w/ Mos Def and Black Thought off that Roots album Things Fall Apart?

  • Riggs

    nope

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Nas’s “Poison”.
    Greatest rap single of all time.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    I couldn’t pick one.
    But Nas’ Illmatic is the greatest rap album of all time.

  • JTaylor21

    Nas’ “Ether”- By far the GOAT single/diss track and Jay-Z had the nerve to drop that garbage a** reply “Super Ugly”.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    airs, the Wizards had to take back Rashard Lewis’ horrible contract though.
    So I think the key is to trade Boozer’s horrible contract for someone else’s horrible but shorter contract.
    Hmm…

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    @JTaylor; true… but Ether was an answer to The Takeover. While Ether was tough because of Nas’s sharp jabs (“oh I get it, your Biggie and Dame is Puffy”), Takeover was tough(er)… (“Only one hot album every 10 year average”) cause what Jay-Z spoke to was true… And nothing be hurting more than truth yo.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    I gotta co-sign Spaceship Jay
    Takeover > Ether.
    Though Jay shoulda went at him with more than just one verse.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i don’t know that much about hip hop to delve into the details, but Ether < Takeover, that's also how every single person I know who listens to each artist feels too.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Ether is by far the greatest diss record ever. Jay was my mans and them back then (he’s wack to me now) but Nas served him on that track.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    ether was cold blooded.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    but takeover was dope too

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    To expound on my point a little…
    You see, you have to look at the status that Jay had at that time. It was almost like he was being worshiped (no Illuminati) in the rap game. He had basically reached god-like status and it was almost universally agreed upon that no rapper (dead or alive) could touch him.
    So the irony in all of this is Jay made Takeover to try — for whatever reason — and kill Nas’ career, but instead, Ether wound up being the career killing song. Everybody agreed that Nas won that battle and once that air of invincibility is gone, it’s over for you. Cats aren’t afraid anymore and start coming at you from all angles. It happens in basketball all the time…
    See Kobe Bryant.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Takeover might be a better actual song, but as a dis track Ether was killer. jay-z underestimated Nas IMO. and then flopped out a big one with that super ugly dis.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    To me, Takeover just had more “damn, he did him like that?” lines than Ether.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Byran, cats were coming at Jay left and right before Ether tho, dudes in mainstream, dudes in the underground – everyone took a crack at him.
    That’s why that final line (“you only get half a bar – f*ck you n*ggas) was so appropriate.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Yeah Rigo, but it was the audacity of Nas to even respond the way that he did that won it for him. And then when Jay turned right around and signed him to Def Jam?!

  • JTaylor21

    “universally agreed upon that no rapper (dead or alive) could touch him” word? What universe was that? A lot of people still to this day have either Pac or BIG as the GOAT rapper not Jay-Z.
    I think someone is blinded by record sales, dude is not a better lyricist than BIG, Big L, Rakim or Nas.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    “Super Ugly” was a classic, too.
    Shout out @Nocturnal…
    The “Takeover” was some of Jay’s best, in my opinion. Prodigy has never recovered from that, to this very day.
    “Ether” may be the greatest comeback diss track of all time. Made Jay come back with news of him dating Beyonce Knowles. He has not looked back since. But, up until that point, Jay was in trouble. Crying on Hot 97.1 to Angie Martinez, and what not.
    Canibus’s 2nd round knockout ranks high, as well.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    JTaylor, how old were you when Jay-Z was at the top of his game, 12? GTFOH… You talk more about stuff that you have no clue about than anyone I’ve ever seen.
    A Google and Wikipedia gangster, SMH.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    LOL.
    OK, I hadn’t listened to Ether and Takeover in a minute, so I just went back, and Ether was indeed, ether.
    From calling Jay a camel to the DSL line to the Biggie lines to insinuating someone else stabbed Un and made Jay take the heat for it, to other things…damn.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    And I thought LL destroyed Canibus on that “Ripper Strikes Back.”

  • JTaylor21

    “a google and wikipedia gangster” word? That’s a first. How long did it take you to come up with such an innovative and mind-boggling insult?
    Typical BC BS, has nothing to back up yet another ridiculous claim so, he resorts to throwing around insults. Bravo!!

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Cats were indeed talking about Jay-Z possibly being the GOAT back in like ’01, ’02.
    I know cause I was one of them thinking maybe Jay had surpassed Pac and Big.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I felt like Ether went harder, but it was more emotional too.
    Lots of “You gay!” ranting on that joke, which is weird since we all know that Nas knew that Jay had been boning his old lady.
    At the time, I thought Takeover was meaner because it exposed all the stuff everybody was whispering about Nas, whose albums after Illmatic were not beloved by most.
    But, “Hit Em Up” is still the best diss track ever, minus the bogus Outlawz verses.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Told you Rigo, he put Jay under with that one.
    And yeah, JTaylor, it only took a couple of seconds for me to come up with that diss. In the words of Jay-Z: Nobody can ready you, dude, like we do!
    You throw insults all day everyday and then when somebody calls you out on what it is that you KNOWIBGLY do, then you want to “catch feelings” and act all “butt hurt.” Stop it, 5.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Hit ‘Em Up was aiight… But it didn’t have the same effect as Ether or Takeover. Maybe it was that wack video that cheapened it.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Hit Em Up went hard only cause of ‘Pac claiming he slept with Faith Evans.
    Without that “you claim to be a player but I f*cked your wife” line, it might’ve been a dud.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    ?R-O-C, get gunned up and clapped quick // JJ Evans, get gunned up and clapped quick // your whole damn record label, gunned up and clapped quick // Shawn Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz d***.”
    I gained a whole new level of respect for Nas off that one track because I felt the same was Jay did about him, “n***a switch up your flow, that s**t is garbage // what you trying to kick, knowledge?”

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Damn allen stole the words right outta my mouth about Hit’em Up.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I disagree vehemently.
    Maybe to you Northerners (And everybody north of the Mason Dixon line is a northerner), but in my neck of the woods and throughout the South where Pac was beloved, that joint was huge.
    Even back then it was huge, it basically escalated the whole East vs. West beef to new heights.
    Basically, Biggie did the standard subliminal rap diss with “Who Shot Ya” and Pac fired back with a blunt appraisal of him, his crew and everybody associated with him.
    It was epic, at least where I lived. I told the story of my first listening on the joint I did about Iverson.

  • JTaylor21

    BC, aight cool. That’s how you feel but explain to me how Jay-Z was once thought of as the GOAT when 99% of people still this this day have either Pac or BIG as the GOAT. You do know that album sales and platinum plaques have nothing to do with being the best rapper, right?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Even today, that joint gets me amped. I know all the words, all the ad libs.
    He called Kim ugly, he made fun of Mobb Deep’s sickle cell, he threatened to murder them all by name.
    It was amazing.
    And, to me, Ether goes harder than Takeover because it channels that same sort of anger that Pac channeled.
    Takeover was nice, and I liked Super Ugly too, but Ether was raw and angry. To some people that’s weakness to others it’s real.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Big L & Big Pun rest in peace.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    It was epic in a sense that Pac just went at EVERYONE.
    I mean, Chino XL? No one even knew who the hell he was!
    But the Outlawz verses were wack, and Pac seemed to care more about sensationalism than witty rhetorics.
    How come Mobb Deep get no love for “Drop a Gem on em”?
    I mean, it’s far from the best diss track, but I give them respect for being the only ones who had the balls to go back at Pac.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Allen, I was living in the South when Hit ‘Em Up came out. I know how huge it was. Cats in the South seemed to have a Napoleon complex back then, IMO. They hated a lot of East Coast rap because they felt like it dominated everything and it was the reason why the South couldn’t get no love. Remember Andre 3000′s statement at the Source Awards?
    So Pac openly dissing the symbol of the East was huge in the South. I remember that like it was yesterday.
    Sure, it was very bold statement and took rap beef to a whole new level because of the bravado, but the song itself was just, meh.
    Just my opinion.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    BC – who you think won the battle between Bone Thugs and rappers from the Chi at the time?
    I thought Twista DESTROYED them on “Crook County”.
    But then they all made songs and albums together…lol

  • http://slamonline Brion

    I hate to aknowledge this but Eboys “Pedro from the real world” got me!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I was addressing its “effect.”
    Lots of people think the song and Pac as a rapper were subpar from a technical standpoint.
    I was just saying it had a huge effect where I live because people were really choosing up sides and whatnot, as stupid as that may sound.
    As for the Napolean complex, I wouldn’t call it that. I would say that folks down really were tired of the bumpkin portrayal common in New York rap, and all these tales of “going down south” to get money because those ninjas are soft. When, in reality, down South was like Virgina or some other craziness.
    It wasn’t New Orleans, or PAT or Houston, or even Atlanta. And those cats were like “You punk New York ninjas” ain’t seeing us. And, plus, cats in the South felt like Pac was “realer” for whatever reason. Don’t really know why, but the South loved the West.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And as a disclaimer, I’m not a huge Pac fan. I liked the music, but it didn’t stir anything in me like it did for a lot of people. I related more to BIG and what he was saying.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Yeah, the South did love the West. I remember feeling sick when Master P started screaming 2Pac in every song. I thought that was so wack.
    Rigo, Twista wins that battle, all day. Plus, he’s still rapping!

  • JTaylor21

    Maybe it’s just me but Pac’s “hit em up” wasn’t all that. I don’t know if it’s because of those dreadful outlaws hogging up the majority of the track or because I’ve always felt that Pac’s overrated as a lyricist. Also dude was lucky that BIG wasn’t into all that back and forth crap because I’m sure BIG would have ethered Pac had he chosen to write a diss track.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Ironic that the title of TPU today is ‘The Sound of War’ and the current conversation is who had the best diss record in rap.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Cormega had some nasty diss tracks for Nas too.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I never thought Pac was rated highly as a lyricist, although he had some tracks where he got right as far as lyrics.
    People just felt he was the best. Mainly because they just felt him.
    Of course many people didn’t, and that’s cool too. The whole “best” argument is a little hard to make in rap where so many different subjective factors go into determining greatness.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    IMO – the greatest diss record of all time was Mariah Carey – Obsessed. When she said “finally found a girl that you couldn’t impress” I was like DAAAAMN!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Tupac was “dry snitching” with “Hit ‘em up”.
    Dry snitching = people who call out the assailant after getting shot.

  • J-MAC

    APOLLO KIDS

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I love everything on this page. Except Eboy. Dudes annoying…

  • HAMMER

    How bout Em,Busta and 50′s diss on Ja and Gotti? That was pretty dope. Calling Ja “Bia-trice” was hilarious

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Man, HAMMER, that song got me heated.
    They go and jack Pac’s “Hail Mary” song and then diss Ja for being a Pac wannabe?
    And Em’s gonna say “If Pac was still here now, he would never ride with Ja”.
    Well, sh*t, he woulda never rode with Em either!
    He woulda rode with Boot Camp Clik.

  • http://Slamonline.comz Bryan Crawford

    Pac managed to tap into the emotions of people better than any rapper before or since. I’ll definitely give him that.

  • http://Nba.com GP23

    Eminem is the best rapper alive !!

  • HAMMER

    Or Em n his prime dissin on every1 and their, and his, momma. Haha! Even Dre wasn’t off limits. Raw Em @ his best

  • http://Slamonline.comz Bryan Crawford

    And 50 was a Pac wannabe. Clown…

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Ice Cube circa 1991 woulda ripped all these new MC’s to shreds.
    Ice Cube 2011 would rather ask them if they can make a cameo in his next family friendly movie.
    SMH

  • HAMMER

    I just always hated Ja. So 2 have sum1 put him n his place was gratifying

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Yeah, but really only one who went hard on that track was Bustah Rhymes.
    The other two just took ‘Pac verses and interjected their own lines here and there.

  • HAMMER

    Altho I have 2 admit that the only song I liked Ja on was Cash Money Clicks “Get tha Fortune”

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Death Certificate and Amerikkka’s Most Wanted were so dope. Lethal Injection wasn’t bad either.

  • HAMMER

    Yeah. Em went easy on him. We all know Em coulda just shredded his @$$ if he really wanted 2.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Predator was aight too.
    In my opinion, one of the best uses of a sample ever was Cube’s “It Was a Good Day”.
    Dude just flowed so lovely over that Isley Brothers “Footsteps in the Dark” sample.

  • the Dude

    The only thing the Mavs are going to win is a seat, handed to them by James Harden. Unless the refs continue the ridiculous calls for Dirk.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Why you bringing up basketball?
    Go talk about that on a basketball site, not…
    Oh…my bad.
    Lol

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Which big name rapper had the worst flunkies that also flowed?
    I would have to say that Pac and the Outlaws are high on the list.
    Em and D12 make the cut too.

  • Cool Dude

    Am I the only one who noticed how terrible Deng was on offense in the second half? Everytime he took it to the rim, he turned the ball over.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Nas?
    The Bravehearts or whatever were pretty wack.

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Although, Fatal Hussein from the Outlaws was way better than the rest of them. Dude could spit.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Original Bone Thugs, and all the 85 people they tried to add later come to mind. (they did end up getting rid of those people after all though didn’t they?)

  • HAMMER

    Snoop Dogg’s Doggy’s Angels sucked. Tha Eastsidaz were dope tho, especially their 1st album

  • http://Slamonline.comz Bryan Crawford

    The St. Lunatics were TRASH!! Nelly was wack, but tolerable on occasion. And everybody under Ludacris was garbage too.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    BC
    I thought that one dude was decent in the St. Lunatics. The one with the dreads, can’t remember his name.
    Ludacris’s flunkies were horrible. Remember 20 and Shauna? (Although shorty had a wagon on her.)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I could never understand how you could be a tight rapper, and be putting out these wack cats swearing they were tight.
    On the flipside. Dungeon Family is still the tightest rap crew.

  • HAMMER

    MoThugs were pretty dope

  • http://Slamonline.comz Bryan Crawford

    Shawnna is from Chicago and even I’m not that big of a homer. She was so wack. Thick, but super wack. And you’re referring to Murphy Lee of the St. Lunatics. A lot of people thought he was nice, but he was just the best rapper in a wack sub-group. That’s like being the tallest midget.

  • http://Slamonline.comz Bryan Crawford

    Twista’s SpeedKnot Mobstas were pretty garbage too.

  • http://Slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Twista’s SpeedKnot Mobstaz were pretty garbage too.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com airs

    i missed out on everything, damn.
    but i wanna just say that busta is mad underrated.
    and tupac is overrated if we’re talking about GOAT.
    all my opinion obviously.
    and i don’t care what anyone says, i think qtip and tribe was dope haha

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Not sure if Nas’ “Illmatic” is the best rap album ever. It’s definitely one of my favorites, but it’s hard to say. Any OC fans?
    And btw the whole East/West rivalry was so played out because not ONCE did Biggie record a diss record aimed at Tupac.
    The best diss to come out of New York, and the diss that started the so-called rivalry, came from TIM DOG. No disrespect to Compton, but Tim Dog’s “F*ck Compton” trumps all of the responses that came after.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Opinion: What is the best song on Illmatic?

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    It’s on moments like this that I realise how much I love TPU and my Slam fam.
    U guys…

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    DMX 1st 4 albulms were dope. I loved that cat when he came out in the late 90s, I was like Hip Hop is back…
    “Sleeping”, “Ruff Ryders Anthem”, “Flesh of my flesh”, “We right here”…
    Damned! What happened?

  • http://www.slamonline.com unf*ckwitable

    I like Jigga but he cant f*ck Nas, Biggie, Big L or Pac. Either was the Sh*t, and illmatic is my favourite rap album ever.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    On the low Andre 3000 is in my top three all time.

  • T-Money

    3 stacks is on another level, really. nobody can see him right now outside of jay, em and nas. / eastsidaz were bad tho. what happened to them? / bravehearts are the worst group by far.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Busta Rhymes, sweet Jesus he can rap.
    His flow on that new joint by the Rihanna-pounder, “look at me now”, gets me hyped every time i hear it.

  • Bye bye

    Either by nas and dollas and sense by Dj quik are the two most explosive tracks ever and no vasoline by ice cube

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    One song out there that just resonates with me forever though: Simon says by Pharaoh Monch.
    My ultimate pre-game song.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If there was a like buttton I would have hit it for that last comment Dark. But not the one about Busta.
    And I haven’t felt eminem once he got sober. Sorry.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nick Collison might be my favorite role player in the league.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ Co-sign.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Goddamnit Jason Terry, you big mouth useless, hero-baller, punka…
    Okay, breathe, breathe, it’s only 2 games in.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Reggie Noble…

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    And, co-sign The Fresh Prince of Nsam concerning DMX.
    Another rap all timer.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Then turn around and do the same d@mn thing to a soloist… Cuz Reggie Noble’s p!ssed!

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