Charles Barkley’s War Against Miami Heat Fans Continues

Depends on what your into. I like playing basketball outdoors and hiking, and pretty views of nature. I have been everywhere and the best place IMO to live is Seattle. Now swallow that Maynor load! And also, who the hell is your team!????? For dude that is all about team loyalty and criticizes fans constantly for not being the “right type of fan” according to you. who is your team? who you ride and die with? who do you represent? huh? i haven’t a clue and your always blabbing off so i should know by now. Don’t talk about fandom when you don’t even have a team.

@Eboy, I don’t think the argument lies with the team, the Lakers like any team that wins championships, always seem to garner bandwagon fans across the country outside of Cali when they are wining. But that’s most teams. But it’s a mistake to compare Miamis fanbase with LA’s. #1 The Lakers are arguably the basketball equivalent of the Yankies in the NBA, sorry Boston. As such they have a much larger and loyal fanbase than most clubs. Especially compared to Miami so IMO it’s a bad comparison. The superstarless J kersey, Threatt, Ceballos, Nick the quick Lakers were actually quite beloved in LA among true Laker fans and the games held at the forum thou not sellouts were reasonably attended. Unlike the relative drop of in attendance we’ve seen from Heat fans and that was WITH a boneafide superstar with Wade and even inexcusably during this season!

Who did i criticize? just point it out so i can see it. So i should have ignored the fact that the Lakers had my favorite player of all time on their team and joined the Sam Cassel Clippers got it. You are a point maker. I stated a fact that the Heat have sucked Long Term, but that is a fact. It’s not their shi**Y fanbases fault that they haven’t had a team to get behind. It’s pretty obvious the Lakers are a team with Dynasties the Heat are not. Sounds to me like i’m a bigger Suns fan than you. So i don’t even know what to make of this conversacion. Just don’t respond to me on here and i won’t respond to you. We have no reason to speak to eachother.

Hating the Heat has become a pretty irrational trend. I’m rooting for the Mavs, but watching Wade and Lebron is fun and I’m really enjoying the series.

And you should open your mouth about long term fans because your “technically a suns fan” got it. Point maker. This is so tiresome with you dude.

I have heard a couple times recently about Dwade being the 3rd best SG of all time? Are we prepared to say that yet? i guess he is becuase everyone else i can think of is lacking something Wade has. I’d still take prime T-Mac over Dwade, maybe even over Kobe haha. Ray Ray is ma boy to.

@Eboy, got it. Agreed. On another note, I hate it when guys generalize and make statements like “this fanbase sucks” it’s completely ignorant and purely based on bias. In allot of places due to local economy or a lack of solid basketball culture most of the “real fans” are not accurately represented, since they get together with other fans, or go to the local sports bar to watch the game. Going to the game is not a past time as there is very little legacy or tradition. I’ve spent allot of time in Florida and it’s definitely a football state, in most parts lacking a die hard basketball culture. That probobly as much as anything is the reason why Miamis fanbase gets criticized. But aside from that no teams bandwaggoners are any different or better than another they are all here today gone tommorow and it comical when they call eachother out. Lol!

“and absolutely hilarious to even insinuate Seattle is a more enjoyable place to live then Miami”
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Why?
I mean, that really depends on the person.
Personally, I’d rather live in Seattle than Miami anyday.
Miami is absolutely beautiful, and filled with beautiful people (on the outside, anyways), but there’s too many damn people there.
The best place I ever lived was Okinawa, it was also gorgeous and tropical with nice beaches and all that, but there were so few people, you could have the whole beach to yourself sometimes.
And people were genuinely nice there.
Seattle got that beatuful nature aspect to it.
It reminds me a lot of Juneau, Alaska.
My only point being it all depends on the person, you’re generalizing.
By the way, Arizona is the last place on earth I’d want to be.
I’d get a warmer reception from Taliban fighters in Afghanistan than I would in Maricopa County, AZ.

That last point about Arizona may have been unnecessary.
I just couldn’t help myself, I hate those racist pr*cks Brewer, Arpaio and Pearce.
I’d hate it there, I bet you love it there.
See? It all depends on the person, is all I meant.

Ha ha that last comment came out wrong too.
Damnit, I’ma just gag myself for now.
My bad, Soop, it’s all love tho.

I heard North Dakota was the most racist state.

that’s in response to Rigo

Eboy. (Not man) I was always kind of a supporter of your comments because they were sometimes funny and you always stood by them. BUT, your stock has dropped dramatically in my book since you dogged on SEATTLE!!! You obviously have never been here because its one of the most beautiful places on earth. We have the best micro brews, best chr*nic, and a unbelievable music scene. (3 of my favorite things). And when we had a NBA team we were the loudest arena around. Check out a Seahawks game sometime if you want to hear the loudest NFL stadium in the league. Miami is a beautiful place I had a grat vaca once there. Just show Seatown a little respect son.

oh and I ain’t gettin offended, there is nothing for me to be offended about. How my state is portrayed to the rest of the country is not controlled by me. I live here, I know how it is.

Yeah what happened to Jose Guerena is the most dispicable and terrible thing I have ever heard about from a government agency meant to protect the safety of its people. It had nothing to do with him being mexican though, just wrong place to live, and a very stupid swat chief or whoever set up the supposed “drug bust.” — And don’t get me wrong, from the way Arizona has been portrayed, I understand any person from being weary of even coming here, sh*t sounds terrible. But it really isn’t, minus a Pei Wei raid (they apparently over 60% of their employees were illegal immigrants) and the outlawing of “independent-labor” (the guys standing infront of Home Depot) any different then it was 5+ years ago.

I’m on the outside looking in, so I suppose I’d have to take your word for it.
And truthfully, I know Arizona isn’t much different from other states in terms of having racist people.
As well as non-racist people.
I have no problem with people who are against illegal immigration, whether the illegals be brown, black, white, purple whatever.
But there’s far too many people who are using this anti-illegal immigration issue as a platform to spew their hatred against brown people, even if they’re illegal, legal or even natural born citizens.
And I just feel like in Arizona, too many people in powerful positions (like Jan Brewer) who are of the second type.
I’m still a big John McCain fan though. That’s my dude right there.

I feel you that makes sense. I can’t deny that there are those like Brewer who seem to be out for certain groups of people. And there are clearly the racists, everywhere. But honestly the legislation that has been passed has made it better on actual American’s and Legal Immigrants who are in need of work, and it has also freed up hospital space, public school space in classrooms, and many other amenities that those that are here legally have the right to first. But at the same time, there are certain illegals who are/were here for many many years, working, and sending their kids through school that got absolutely screwed by the changes.

Did you read what i said? PRIME T-Mac is the best offensive SG I have seen in my life. Obviously shooting percentages are not that important to me, since you know i’m a Kobe guy. Defensively he was below average. Leadership qualities he was below average. intangibles mostly below average. i’m putting him in a pretty inclusive group with me saying “in PRIME, he was the best OFFENSIVE sg i have seen beside MJ.) Not a crazy statement lol.

@Nbk, so working with mexicans some of whome share your views makes you an expert on how mexicans as a whole feel about Arizonas politics and racial climate? You have the right to your own opinion, but using the word “hilarious” to describe Arizonas negative reputation regaurding the existing racial climate between whites and hispanics is naive at best and quite dismissive. Thats like me saying “hey guys i live in brownsville and work with a few african americans, and they dont have a problem with white people. Dont believe the hype brownsville is a great place for white people to live its a joke to suggest otherwise.” Perhaps if you would have said exagerrated but HILARIOUS? really? I know for a fact that there are many hispanics living in AZ that would find your assertation less than humorous.

No one would ever want to go to Seattle? Wow, this EBoy’s dude’s an idiot. Seattle’s the most educated city in the country for starters (highest number of college educated residents). It’s the most innovative city in the country (Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, Weyerhauser, Costco, and even though I hate it, Starbucks–all started here). It’s the most beautiful city in the country right on the ocean, green, crisp clean air, and major mountain ranges on both sides. It has arguably the greatest music culture in the country (Jimi Hendrix, Ray Charles, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden, and too many up and coming hip-hop artists to name). We have the best seafood in the country and some of the best restaurants. And it has some of the best sports fans in the country. Qwest is the loudest building in sports, and the Key was the loudest building the NBA has ever seen–Chuck’ll confirm on that. FOr you to sit there and justify Miami’s fan support is a laughter. But I guess I wouldn’t expect anything less from someone who’s an admitted bandwagoner.

Sick Wit It sikhwitit! 206 is shouting loudly today i’m loving it. You left off best cronik, but maybe your a sober fella so no worries!

And if you believe the homie Jose’s death had nothing to do with him being Mexican, then I don’t know what to say.
Some people are already suspects because of skin color or name.

Co-sign AllenP @ 6:49.
I don’t believe for a second him being of Mexican descent “had nothing to do with it”.
@LakeShow – the problem lies in the fact that, if the full law went into effect, cops could ask anyone they suspect of being an illegal to provide proof that they’re legal.
So who do you think would be most likely to be harassed if that aspect went into effect? The Canadian whose visa expired years ago, or the Chicano who’s family has lived in Arizona dating back to when it belonged to Mexico?

Depends…. are we talking French Canadian… those guys are weird…?

You talking sales tax BlackP? Cause definitely not fed tax or property tax. And RigoNigo, I was doing a little devils advocate cause obviously this is wrong but so is it to illegally enter a country and take advantage of the benefits. Even if they work harder than every other person of native heritage, its still wrong. Do things the right way and we don’t have this problem.