Tuesday, June 28th, 2011 at 4:36 pm  |  40 responses

Euros: A Risky Investment

Should teams should steer clear of Europeans in the First Round?

by Leo Sepkowitz

This season, Dirk Nowitzki, the League’s only German-born 7-foot jump shooter, led the Dallas Mavericks to their first NBA title. His career numbers and now his ring (or whatever Mark Cuban decides to give his players) will no doubt influence general managers across the League to look even deeper into European talent.

We already saw the impact Dirk had in this year’s Draft, as four of the top seven picks are European players. Further down, Lithuania’s Donatas Motiejunas went 20th, Spain’s Nikola Mirotic went 23rd, Croatia’s Bojan Bogdanovic went 31st, Latvia’s Davis Bertans went 41st, and five of the last seven players taken in the Draft were born outside the US. It’s clear that Dirk’s success has rubbed off on teams everywhere, but before everybody goes Euro-crazy, I have a message for you: Don’t.

Over the years there have been countless European players brought in to be the next big thing. In 2003 we saw the Pistons take Darko Milicic with the second overall pick, passing on Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Everyone remembers the Darko misstep, but what about the other guys? In 2002, the Nuggets took Mikoloz Tskitishvili with the fifth overall pick. In ’05, we saw Spain’s Fran Vazquez and Russia’s Yaroslav Korlev go consecutively at Nos. 11 and 12, respectively.

I’m not saying there haven’t been foreign successes in this league. Dirk was taken ninth back in 1998, and the Spurs nabbed Tony Parker at the end of the first round in 2001. Still, though, as far as top-20 picks go, it’s clear that the safe move is for teams to stay away from European unknowns. To prove my point, I’ll break down Europeans selected in the top-20 over the last 10 years. In order to do so, the players have broken down into tiers.

I’ve placed all 17 players in seven tiers from best to don’t bother.

TIER 1: The Exception

Pau Gasol – Lakers – Spain – Drafted Third Overall in 2001 by the Grizzlies

OK, so maybe there is one superstar European who’s gone in the top-20 since 2001. Pau is what everybody prays a European import will be like: a great scorer, rebounder and, perhaps most importantly, passer. Gasol has brought along a game that is rarely seen in 7-footers in America, and has used it brilliantly. His career-high of 376 assists in one season (4.6 per game) is 25 more than Dwyane Wade totaled this season playing alongside LeBron James and Chris Bosh.

TIER 2: Seen Better, Seen Worse

Andrea Bargnani – Raptors – Italy – Drafted First Overall in 2006 by the Raptors

Bargnani is starting to look like a pretty nice offensive player, as he averaged upwards of 21 points per game this year, but that doesn’t make him a great pick. He is a horrible shot-blocker, especially by 7-footer standards, and his rebounding is very mediocre, as he averaged just 5.4 per game this season. The selection looks all the worse considering the Bulls took LaMarcus Aldridge and moved him to Portland with the very next pick.

Danilo Gallinari – Nuggets – Italy – Drafted Sixth Overall in 2008 by the Knicks

Gallinari is a lot like Bargnani. Not only are they both Italian, but like Bargnani, Gallo is developing into a serious offensive player who is simply subpar on the defensive end. Granted he was taken sixth, not first like Bargnani, but still, he has to improve his defensive game.

TIER 3: At Least He’s No Frederic Weis

Thabo Sefelosha – Thunder – Switzerland – Drafted 13th Overall in 2006 by the Thunder

Thabo has turned himself into an incredibly useful player on a Thunder team poised to make many title runs in the future, but he wasn’t worth a 13th overall pick. He’s really a terrible offensive player; he’s yet to average more than 9 points, 2 assists or a three in any given season. I almost feel bad having him on this list since I love him as a defensive player, but that’s just the way it goes. Think of him as a Swiss Bruce Bowen.

Mickael Pietrus – Suns – France – Drafted 11th Overall in 2003 by the Warriors

Pietrus is in the same boat as Sefelosha. He’s turned himself into a very nice defensive player, but with a career points/boards/assists slash of 8.6/3.1/0.8, the Warriors unquestionably reached for him in ’03. I like him a lot as a role player, but his inability to find a consistent offensive game will always limit his minutes and impact.

Andris Biedrins – Warriors – Latvia – Drafted 11th Overall in 2004 by the Warriors

Biedrins took a while to warm to the NBA, but he’s had some really productive seasons. Unfortunately for Mark Jackson and the Warriors, it looks like his best years are already behind him. In his first two seasons, Biedrins averaged no better than four points or 4.5 boards in either year, but began to break through in 2006. He suddenly became something of a stats machine, and averaged around a double-double in each season from 2006-2009. But injuries ruined his ’09-10 campaign and he was pretty bad this year. The center is still only 25 years old, but I’m not sure he’ll regain the abilities he had a few years ago. I’m afraid he might just be a Latvian Joel Przybilla who shoots under 33 percent from the line.

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  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    It’s true Europeans haven’t made much noise since Pau. But I have a feeling that’s about to change.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    I’ll probably be grilled for saying this, but I think Darko deserves to be at least in Tier 4. He may be a bust but he can block shots with the best of them.

  • MikeC.

    @niQ – I agree with you. Darko is labeled as a bust simply because of who was drafted after him. That’s not his fault. Sure, he’s a mediocre talent, but like Kwame Brown, he’s getting killed for where he was drafted and the expectations that go with that instead of just looking at what he does and accepting it. Darko is a starting center in the NBA, or a backup on a good team. That says more about the lack of quality centers in the NBA than it does about Darko’s talent.

  • orlando woolridge

    Thabo was actually drafted by the 76ers and traded to the Bulls.

  • Bobbo

    maybe next time you can do a similar story on the ACC or Big East.

  • Filipe

    First, Dirk success this year has zero to do with euro guys in this year’s draft. Except for Byiombo (and the USC center) everyone of the foreign guys picked in the first round this year was always expected to be first rounders. Actually a year ago Draft Express 2011 mock looked like this:
    1) Harrison Barnes
    2) Perry Jones
    3) Jonas Valanciunas
    4) Jan Vesely
    5) Kirye Irving

    It’s very lazy journalism to pretend there were a cause and effect between Diek and Valanciunas/Kanter/Vesely. What happened this year is that 2 guys (Vesely and Montiejunas) who were supposed to go out last year didn’t and that made the foreign group this season stronger which combined with too many NCAA prospects waiting an extra year to declare ended up with too many foreign guys in the top 10.

    Second you played pretty fast and loose with facts in your research. Since 96 (when foreign players start to be regularly drafted) thre were 11 players that didn’t play in either NCAA or US High School picks on the top 10:
    3 All Stars (Dirk, Pau and Yao)
    3 Quality starters worth a top 10 pick (Nene, Gallinari and Bargnani)
    2 bench guys (Darko, Yi)
    2 busts so awful they were out of the league after their rookie contracts (Skita and Sene)
    The 11th was Rocky Rubio 2 years ago.

    So 30% all stars, 30% starters, 20% end of rotation types, 20% horrible busts, does this look very diferent from an average draft top 10?

    The thing is so few foreign guys are picked high we put to much value o the bad picks (its not unluccky how Jimmer has to turn like Morrison istead of Kevin Love). Sene is an awful pick, so were Patrick O Bryant, Darko at #2 is awful, he gonna still have a longer NBA career than Stromile Swift, On the average NBA scouting get it right probably at a similar pace weather the guy played in the Big East, in the WAC, in Spain, High School or South America. It’s imperfect and it misses a lot, it does it to every type of player. I could write pretty much the same post if the original was about how Kemba Walker would fail because too many NCAA starts that lead there teams to Final Four fail.

  • http://jsdklfl.com Jukai

    I haven’t even read this article, but the picture alone is awesome for it

  • Bash

    One thing I think is over looked when talking about the impact of non-american players in the NBA are the cultural & language barriers that have to be confronted. How much harder is it to contribute to a team and develop relationships and understanding with team mates when there is a legitimate communication breakdown. I bet if you asked any americans who have played overseas where they don’t speak the language or can’t eat the food they will say it is hard to make the maximum impact on court, especially, when there is the pressure on them to do so. Maybe think about that next time your team drafts a player who struggles with his post-draft interview..

  • Jdizzle

    Ppl need to stop saying Bargnani was a bad pick. That draft was pretty awful overall. Only players better than him in that draft are LMA, Roy (not anymore), Rondo, and Gay. Raptors really didn’t need LMA at the time considering we had a better version of him in Bosh. No one in their right might would have taken Rondo number one. Rondo is also really a product of the system. He likely would not be same player had he landed on a different team (that didn’t have 3 HOF on the team). No one was even considering Roy at number one (plus he’s pretty much done now). Gay is the only one who has case but Colangelo took a chance on Bargs because he wanted a versatile front court.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Filipe, what part of EURO was confusing? This isn’t all about foreign born players, that’s a whole different story. Reading the title of an article usually helps comprehension.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Sepkowitz

    I actually semi-agree on the Darko front. I’m not sure I’d say he’s as good a shot blocker as anyone, but he’s turned into a very solid player. Other guys on this list have certainly had worse careers, but considering the draft he was in, he just had to be in a tier by himself.

  • Filipe

    My point don’t change at all if you stick to just european born players. 6 top ten picks, 2 all stars, 2 quality starters, 1 bench guy, 1 useless bust. Averages remain pretty much the same which pretty much is my point, NBA scouting hit or miss at around the same pace don’t matter where a player used to play. A high tauted prospect shot of fullfillig his potential is probably the same weather he played in Georgetown, Nevada, Barcelona or Oak Hill.

  • AB

    Where is Luol Deng or is the UK not a European country?

  • Pavlek

    I agree with Filipe. There have been some american busts too.
    The whole article is kinda xenophobic.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Having watched some film of Jonas (ok, I admit, it was YouTube highlights), he looks like a legitimate top five talent in a good draft. I would have taken only Biyimbo ahead of him. Those two have the chance to be great, where as I think that Irving or Williams and the rest will be good.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    “should teams steer clear of European players in the first round?” please. this article makes it sound like Euros have a better chance of being busts than American-born players, which is an idiotic and even racist notion. there’s a couple busts in every draft, some American, some foreign-born.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    and yes, Pavlek is right, xenophobic is the right word.

  • Morgan

    ^^ cosign what those two just said

  • Ronald

    It’s not racism because they’re white. /s

  • goattree

    Lights Out said it right.

    As far as Darko – how many championship rings does he have? How many do LeBron, Melo and Bosh have combined? Less eh? I agree.

    So many people forget that when Darko was drafted, he was:
    A. Only 18 years old
    B. soon to be getting his ass kicked daily in practice from the Wallace boys (and learning a hell of a lot each day)
    C. Not counted on to contribute that year anyways.

    What is he now? 25 years old? So coming into the prime of his career soon? The jury is still out in my opinion on Darko. If he works hard enough he can still be a very productive player in this league. Just cuz he didn’t do anything as a Piston (other than get fitted for a ring), doens’t mean he’s the biggest bust of all time.

  • goattree

    In other news, as a die hard Raptors fan I had a soul cringe moment the other day when I heard a talking head on NBA tv compare Jonas Valanciunus to a young Sam Bowie….

  • goattree

    In other news, as a die hard Raptors fan I had a soul cringe moment the other day when I heard a talking head on NBA tv compare Jonas Valanciunus to a young Sam Bowie, like it was a good thing….

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    great point about Darko, goattree. he’s only 26 (as of a few days ago–happy b-day, Darko!) so he still has time. will he live up to being a number 2 pick? almost definitely not, but he can still be a solid player. actually, last year, he averaged 9, 4, and 2 blocks in 25 minutes. not an all star, but not bad either, especially the block numbers.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Sepkowitz

    Of course there have been a ton of American busts, but the amount of European players who don’t even come close to being productive (Tier 5) is pretty staggering. They make up almost a third of the entire list (5/16 excluding Rubio).

  • http://leobeingleo.com Sepkowitz

    Sorry – it’s 6/16. Even more than a third.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Rubio won DPOY when he was on that squad in Europe didn’t he?

  • http://leobeingleo.com Sepkowitz

    Sorry – 6/16. More than a third.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah he did Black

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Dang the writer didn’t even mention it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    He won it 2 years ago. Spanish League Defensive Player of the Year in 2009. Infact he’s got a ton of awards and recognition – won the 2010 Euroleague with FC Barcelona…named the 2010 Euroleague Rising Star…named the 2009-10 Euroleague Week-10 MVP…won the 2008 ULEB Cup with Joventut Badalona…member of the Spanish National Team…won the gold medal at the 2009 European Championship…won the silver medal at the 2008 Olympic Games…played at the 2010 Word Championship…won the 2006 FIBA Euro Cup with Joventut Badalona…won the 2010-11 Spanish National Championship with FC Barcelona…won the 2008 Spanish National Cup (King’s Cup) with Joventut Badalona…won the 2010 and 2011 Spanish National Cup (King’s Cup) with FC Barcelona…won the 2009 and 2010 Spanish Super Cup with FC Barcelona…named to the 2007-08 All-Spanish League First Team…led the 2006-07 Spanish League in steals (2.3 spg.)…has been member of the Spanish U-16 and U-18 National Team…won the gold medal at the 2006 European U-16 Championship

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    @Sepkowitz: what percent of American-born first round picks over the last ten years would you say didn’t come close to being productive? i’d say it’d be more than a third as well.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    How can it be racist?
    Is there a European race that I never heard about?

  • Ronald

    Now you’re just trolling Allenp.

  • http://jayemmbee23.tumblr.com Clutch Performer

    ok heres a questions american bust vs european bust. which would you rather take ? an american bust isnt usually equal to a euro bust. for example greg oden or kwame browm , darius miles? even though they are busts would still beast all over rafael arujuo and andrea barniangi and gallo. the american game vs the euro game is still dominant and still a factor

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    Allenp, fair enough. regionalist then. ethnocentric. xenophobic, like Pavlek said. doesn’t matter, doesn’t change my point.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    kwame and darius miles would “beast all over” bargnani and gallo? are you serious? i’m not saying they’re all stars, but i’d take the latter two over the first two in a second. kwame’s starting to come into his own some, but is, as of now, still a bust, and miles is one of the major reasons the league stopped taking players right out of high school.

  • Filipe

    Sepkowitz, I decide to check drafts from 2000 to 2007 and identify guys that would qualify as tier 5 by your criteria. 130 american players got drafted in the top 20 during those 8 drafts, I found 48 guys that I d put in your tier 5. I didn’t include guys like Kwame Brown, Chris Mimm or Darius Miles who despite being bad or very bad picks had at least 2-3 seasons where they were at least useful backups. I m listing then below by year.

    2000: 5/17 (Marcus Fizer, DerMarr Johnson, Courtney Alexander, Mateen Cleaves, Jason Collier)
    2001: 5/15 (Rodney White, Kedrick Brown, Steven Hunter, Kirk Haston, Michael Bradley)
    2002: 8/15 (Jay Williams, Dajuan Wagner, Melvin Ely, Marcus Haislip, Fred Jones, Curtis Borchardt, Ryan Humphrey, Kareem Rush)
    2003: 4/16 (Michael Sweetney, Marcus Banks, Reece Gaines, Troy Bell)
    2004: 4/17 (Luke Jackson, Robert Swift, Sebastian Telfair, Kirk Snyder)
    2005: 7/17 (Ike Diogu, Sean May, Rashad McCants, Antoine Wright, Joey Graham, Gerald Green, Julius Hodge)
    2006: 8/16(Adam Morrison, Shelden Williams, Patrick O’Bryant, Hilton Armstrong, Cedric Simmons, Rodney Carney, Quincy Douby, Renaldo Balkman)
    2007: 7/17 (Brandan Wright, Acie Law, Julian Wright, Al Thornton, Sean Williams, Javaris Crittenton, Jason Smith)

  • MrSuper

    Where does Peja rank in this list? Also before him, where would we put Drajen Petrovic? Vlade Divac? Arvydas Sabonis? Or even Pedrag Danilovic?
    I also see no mention of Rudy Fernadez, Jose Calderon.
    Should we also mention players from Africa? The Dream comes immediately in mind.
    I am dissapointed SLAM, this is not to the site’s usual standards.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Sepkowitz

    @MrSuper

    This is only top-20 picks over the last ten years…

  • http://leobeingleo.com Sepkowitz

    @Filipe

    Great point. Very interesting.

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