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What colleges produce the best pro players? You might be surprised.

by Leo Sepkowitz

Historically, the NCAA’s most successful schools pump the greatest number of players into the NBA. But that doesn’t mean that these powerhouses are necessarily producing the best players. For instance, Kansas has the second most alumni currently active in the NBA with 15, but their best active point guard is Mario Chalmers, while their top two big men are arguably soon-to-be rookies Marcus and Markieff Morris. On the other hand, Memphis has just seven active alumni but an incredible guard duo to show for it in Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans.

So which college produces the best pro players? To settle this, I looked at current NBA rosters, including the ‘11-12 rookie class, and constructed hypothetical lineups for each school made of their active alumni. First a quick run down of the rules:

- A team must have five starters. If a school only has four or less active alumni, they are disqualified. Notable DQ’d teams include Indiana, Louisville, Michigan and Butler.
– Not every college with five active alumni is on this list—only the top 25 lineups made it.
– Ideally the college has produced has two guards, two forwards and a center, but it’s pretty unusual. So each team only must have at least one guard and one forward. The rest of the lineup can be filled out by guys playing slightly out of position.
– Eligible players don’t have to have played this season (meaning the ‘10-11 season), but do have to be on a team’s roster. Call it the Greg Oden rule.
– My rankings are based on starting lineups only. So, for example, UCLA doesn’t get bonus points for having both Baron Davis and Darren Collison sitting on the virtual bench.
– The hypothetical teams consist of all players who attended a certain college, no matter when they attended it. In other words, Wake Forest’s lineup has Chris Paul and Tim Duncan in it, even though they never played together.
– Lastly, the rankings are for the now, and have nothing to do with how players in the lineup have done in the past. For instance, Wake Forest doesn’t get to have the 2011 version of Paul playing alongside the 2004 version of Duncan.

Notes:

- If a player has a star after his name, he is a rookie.
– After each player is either “Fr.,” “So.,” “Jr.” or “Sr.” This signals whether he was a freshman, sophomore, junior or senior when he left college.
– Under each starting lineup is the “Average Years In College.” This number shows the average number of years each starter spent at his respective college. This holds no significance as far as rankings go, but it’s a cool number to look at. It’s worth noting that none of the top-five lineups have an “Average Years In College” score of three or higher. Meaning, on average, the school’s starters leave before their senior seasons.

25. Maryland

Starting Lineup
Guard: Steve Blake, Sr.
Guard: Greivis Vasquez, Sr.
Forward: Jordan Williams*, So.
Forward: Joe Smith, So.
Center: Chris Wilcox, So.

Average Years In College: 2.8

Other Active Players
None

This team is simply miserable. The problem here actually has less to do with a lack of talent (Blake has had some decent years and Greivis looked solid in the Playoffs) and more to do with the wrong blend of players. Mainly, Jordan Williams (6-10, 260) could never guard a small forward, and I’m not sure Joe Smith could handle more than 10 minutes per game at this point.

24. Purdue

Starting Lineup

Guard: E’Twaun Moore*, Sr.
Forward: Carl Landry, Sr.
Forward: Brian Cardinal, Sr.
Forward: JaJuan Johnson*, Sr.
Center: Brad Miller, Sr.

Average Years In College: 4

Other Active Players
None

This team is obviously about as bad as it gets, but it is a team, which is more than most schools (not on this list) can say. Clearly the offense would be abysmal (and the defense probably would be, too), but Landry is one year removed from averaging 18 points per game, while Johnson has a chance to be Kevin Garnett’s successor in Boston if he impresses during his rookie campaign.

23. Villanova

Starting Lineup
Guard: Kyle Lowry, So.
Guard: Randy Foye, Sr.
Guard: Allan Ray, Sr.
Forward: Dante Cunningham, Sr.
Forward: Malik Allen, Sr.

Average Years In College: 3.6

Other Active Players
None

Obviously ‘Nova has some holes here, but it’s not that bad a team. Lowry really came into his own this season, averaging around 17 points and 7 assists after the All-Star break, while Foye averaged nearly 10 points per game in his first season with the Clippers. Cunningham has some real talent, averaging nine points and four boards in 22 games for the Bobcats after coming over from Portland. Unfortunately, Malik Allen and Bizzaro Ray Allen would drag this team down. OK… so maybe Ray hasn’t been in the League since 2007… but I wasn’t going to waste a perfectly good Seinfeld reference just for that.

22. FSU

Starting Lineup

Guard: Toney Douglas, Sr.
Guard: Von Wafer, So.
Forward: Chris Singleton*, Jr.
Forward: Al Thornton, Sr.
Center: Solomon Alabi, So.

Average Years In College: 3

Other Active Players
None

Another lineup that would have no chance in an NBA game, but a lineup nonetheless. These guys would really function as a strong second unit, with Douglas’ offense and Singleton’s defense leading the way. Don’t sleep on Wafer or Thornton either, as Thornton scored over 20 points five times this season and Wafer chipped in nicely off the Celtics bench until the arrival of Jeff Green.

21. Stanford

Starting Lineup
Guard: Landry Fields, Sr.
Guard: Josh Childress, Jr.
Forward: Jason Collins, So.
Center: Robin Lopez, So.
Center: Brook Lopez, So.

Average Years In College: 2.6

Other Active Players
Jarron Collins

Admittedly, I’m pushing it here. There’s no way the Lopez twins and Collins could all be on the floor at the same time, but that’s why Stanford’s ranked all the way down here despite having five guys who can play. I will say that if this lineup actually got on the court, I think they could surprise some people, as Fields is a smart enough player to be able to distribute the ball a little while Brook Lopez’s outside shot would stretch the defense just enough.

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  • EmCee

    I’d almost take that HS lineup over any other 5 guys from any team mentioned!

  • PlanetAsia14

    I agree with EmCee. When you got Kobe and LeBron… It’s over.

  • Oli

    who wouldn’t?

  • Alex

    Kobe and Lebron would never touch the ball with Monta running the point. I’m only kidding, but on a serious note that could be best defensive team ever if you rolled the clock back a year or 2.

  • Rog23

    Why is grant hill sitting on the bench behind magette?

  • mbex4jp2

    Hate to be picky but Ilgauskas is Lithuanian

  • Patrick

    Good read

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Yea was a good read. Probably will see a lot of material like this during the lockout =(

  • EJ

    Scalabrine got snubbed.

  • http://Yahoo! Chris Mullin’s Accent

    Would you rather have Amare or KG on the high school team at this point in their careers?

  • 23-DOOM-50

    Shaun Livingston: So nice you gotta list him twice lol

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Nice work Leo!

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  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    EmCee … I think even the High School team’s second unit (Williams, Jackson, Smith, Jefferson, Bynum) could be pretty competitive with any team on this list.

  • Klaustophobik

    Where is Amare??

  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    Amar’e was accidentally left off.. Obviously he should be the starting power forward for the High School team and KG should be delegated to the bench.

  • Klaustophobik

    Yea I agree Leo… Honestly the highschool team would obviously destroy any of those college teams. Maybe you should rank the schools based on who is still playing but in their primes.

  • http://Yahoo! Chris Mullin’s Accent

    KG outperformed Amare in the Celtics-Knicks series. You could argue that his superior defense could make him more valuable, but a Dwight-Amare combo would be freakish. Dwight defending the paint would easily nullify any of Amare’s defensive flaws.
    My NBA’s Freak Athlete Starting Five:
    PG- Rose (Westbrook isn’t quite there)
    SG- Wade
    SF- Lebron
    PF- Blake (younger and even more explosive than Amare)
    C- Dwight

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    stephen jackson did not play collage ball?

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    UConn looks better than Texas. I guess if age wasn’t a factor they’d be a no-brainer.

  • http://www.Slamonline.com Slick Ric

    timmy and paul = best team. uconn has beeter squad than texas. and memphis is nice with just Rose and Tyreke.

  • TheFinger

    what, no brandon jennings?

  • Armando

    Morris twins over Collison and Gooden at this point… I doubt they’re any better.. Scal and his lock down defense was definitely snubbed.

  • Max

    Since we have high school as an honorable mention. International:
    Tony Parker
    Manu Ginobili
    AK47
    Dirk
    Pau Gasol
    Also seems pretty solid to me

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    how is westbrooke not as freakishly athletic as rose though?

  • Showtime

    second what he ^ said

  • Delano

    You forget among the active HS players Sebastian Telfair.

  • JoeBloe16

    KG over Amare?!?!?

    I think Amare’s a stud, but KG in his prime would smoke Amare on both ends of the floor.

  • JoeBloe16

    This article is a joke. It should specifically say which college produces the best pros all time. Of course the writer wouldn’t do that, because that would automatically default UNC and UCLA at the top and everyone else far behind.

    1. UNC
    2. UCLA
    3. Everyone else…

  • Real Wonder

    If You count Enes Kanter as a Kentucky guy, as you should since the NCAA counted him as a shcolarship player and against Kentuckys APR, then that rockets UK up to at least number 2 IMO.

    In a few years this will be an annual Kentucky love fest anyway.

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  • miltk

    you’d think a “well-studied” criteria like this would have almost indisputable results,,,but the fact that you’re adding rookie players who are only PROJECTED starters diminishes your whole article.

    on the opposite end of your scale, bonus players DO HELP. for instance let’s take ucla. you give them a nod for westbrook and holiday, yet by not giving points to STARTERS afflalo, davis, and collison you’ve compromised the whole point of the article. if a school has 50 starters in the nba, do 45 NOT COUNT???

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