Monday, July 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  68 responses

Jeff Van Gundy: Yao Ming a Hall of Famer


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

It wasn’t surprising that Yao Ming finally decided to call it quits; the signs that his playing days were over had been there for quite some time now.

According to his agent, there will be a press conference on July 20th to presumably make the retirement official.

Yao Ming only played for eight years in the NBA, but he left an indelible mark on the League, and his impact on the game of basketball globally is enormous. Injuries are to blame for his tragically short stint in the NBA — they started cutting Yao’s career short in just his fourth season (Ming played an average of 81 games per year through his first 3 seasons in the L.)

The towering center with a deft touch around the rim and from outside the paint, put up averages of 19 points, 9 boards and shot 52% from the field for his career, and when you combine that with everything else he accomplished off the court, Yao Ming’s former Houton Rockets head coach Jeff Van Gundy says that’s more than enough to warrant a Hall of Fame berth.

From the Houston Chronicle:

“No. 1 to me, he’s a Hall of Famer,” Van Gundy said. “I don’t care if you put him in as player, as a contributor or put him in with his own heading. This guy definitely gets in for the greatness as a player when healthy or what he did as ambassador.”

He then added a thought he would repeat often. “People forget,” Van Gundy said, “just how good he was.” With Yao’s decision to retire rather than attempt another comeback from another injury, discussions about his career always will include thoughts of what could have been.

Strictly based on the merits of what he did on the court, you could legitimately argue that Yao Ming is not a Hall of Famer.

But good luck pushing that argument any further when you take into account the totality of his accomplishments and impact on the game across the globe.

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  • http://asdklfl.com Jukai

    Myung: There are no moderators.

  • http://asdklfl.com Jukai

    That warning section is just a horsesh*t scarecrow from a company who really doesn’t care what happens on the website as long as it keeps getting the hits.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Walton got in because of college. Period.
    Yeah, he had that one ring, but the real reason he is a Hall of Famer is because of how dominant he was in college. Yao and Walton’s NBA career’s are very comparable, and you could argue that Yao’s impact internationally is equal to what Walton did in college, particularly if you consider Sabonis.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai, let me clear it up for you.
    Bike’s comment was racist.
    If the “joke” is solely based on the race or ethnicity of a person and has no other humor about it, then it’s racist. Easy reference point for you.

  • http://asdklfl.com Jukai

    Walton didn’t get a ring. Walton got in because he lead the worst team ever in the NBA to a championship by himself against Dr. J, rocked the league the next year and was so far ahead of his competition that he got the MVP award only playing 60 games, then joined one of the best dynasties in basketball years later and revived his career for two small years where he became the backup center/forward to Parish/McHale, won the sixth man award and anchored the defense and game the Celtics a big man passing option they never had.
    That’s why he is in the HOF. Is there anyone who has both a Finals MVP and a regular season MVP and two other championships who ISN’T in the HOF? Ridiculous. He’d be in if he went in straight from HS. The dominance in college is a cherry on the cake.
    And you’re right about Bike’s awful joke.

  • http://www.facebook.com The Philosopher

    2nd ballot.
    Wouldn’t be upset if he made 1st ballot.
    But, surely 2nd ballot.

  • http://asdklfl.com Jukai

    And Yao’s career isn’t even comparable in any type of way to Walton. Yao was never top-5 in MVP voting. He never made it out of the first round, no playoff victories at all. He couldn’t pass, rebound or defend anywhere near Walton’s level. I mean, the careers are similar only if you look at games played. That’s it.
    It is a bum comparison.
    Let’s stick to David Thompson, thx.

  • http://asdklfl.com Jukai

    My 3:18 post should be “Yao didn’t get a ring”
    Sorry. Gotta proofread.

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com Dutch Rich

    I do not understand how this is even in dispute. Yao Ming belongs in the HOF no questions asked.
    If I remember well Yao only played about 20 mpg. He could have easily averaged close to 30 pts/20 boards and 3 blocked shots a game if it weren’t for his injuries. For all the centers I’ve witnessed his fundamentals were only inferior to Kareem’s and Olajuwon’s. His rookie year was rough in the beginning but he kept improving dramatically. Ask Kenny’s donkey!

  • http://asdklfl.com Jukai

    Yao played 32-37 minutes a game…

  • VCsuxA$$

    @ bike – great name btw, didn’t know how to spell anything else besides your name and “bike” i guess? you’re an ignornant idiot too…i’m not asian, but racism is uncalled for…if you think that’s how chinese people talk, you probably think the power rangers are for real too…ignorant idiots…let’s see you do that in a public telecast, i dare you…and then you wonder why the rest of the world thinks americans are idiots…well done to prove our stereotype to be incorrect “bike”…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    No Dutch, He never would have rebounded even 15 a game. He played around 30 mins, and Shaq had more dominant offensive moves than Yao. Not as polished, but got the job done. Hell Chris Kaman has about the same offensive skills. Give him another 6 inches of height and he’s as good as Yao at his best.

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com Dutch Rich

    I didn’t count those 15 to 20 possessions when he didn’t make it up the court. Man I keep my own statistics, call me Dutch Hollinger! What!!

  • Allenp

    Whoa there VCsux
    You look like an idiot criticizing bike for stereotyping right before doing it yourself with your comment about Americans.
    What country are you from?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Jukai….Are you forgetting the West Semifinals in ’09 against LA when they took the Lakers(even though he got injured in Game 3)to seven games. He’s been past the First Round, lol. It hasn’t been that bad for Yao.

  • DFrance21

    Jukai you’re grossly overstating Waltons NBA career, plain and simple. Maybe you were around to see him play live and there’s something I don’t know, but from a straight numbers perspective, outside of his Championship year and the season after it, his numbers are incredibly average. Even looking at his two best seasons he didn’t play more than 65 games either year.

  • VCsuxA$$

    @AllenP: obviously you can’t comprehend what you read. I stated “…well done to prove OUR stereotype to be incorrect “bike”, which would imply that I’m american. So to clarify for you, I’m American. Don’t try to act like you’re more significant with your comments; read before you ask a question with an obvious answer. And regarding your comment about me stereotyping, that wasn’t stereotyping. I was stating a general perception that people outside of OUR home – USA – have of us. Which does not implicate all americans, but, does warrant as objective evidence to all those outside of the USA who perceive US americans in that manner, when comments such as bike’s are made. Prejudice, stereotyping, racism are all forms of deragatoriness (yes, that’s a real word Allen). By you defending bike, which is what you’re doing, you are also fitting the rest of the world’s perception that WE, americans, are idiots.

  • iorpi

    The guy was the best center after shaq. He and shaq were the only players that constantly attracted triple-team defense. If you look at all the scratches on this guy’s arms and think about that the guy always carried some little guys on his back when he attacked the rim, you know the guy was really something! I do not care whether this guy is a Hall of Famer; I just know that this guy was one of the few real dominant guys the league has ever had. I feel sad that I could not watch him for longer, particularly when Yao was under Rudy T. Van Gundy was too greedy using Yao. For example he gave Yao too much duties on tough physical defense and let a 7’5” guy running back and forth too much. In terms of using Yao, Van Gundy was definitely not as smart as Rudy T. Had Rudy not detected cancer, he would have steadily and thoroughly developed Yao into an even better player who could definitely have a much longer and more brilliant career. Yao’s brilliant passing talents (just watch some of the clips from Yao’s first few seasons) for example were rarely employed during Van Gundy’s tenure.

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