Thursday, July 7th, 2011 at 10:00 am  |  35 responses

Stephen Curry on Monta Ellis: ‘We Want Him With Our Team’

What was once viewed as a strained relationship between Curry and Ellis has grown into a friendship, and Stephen tells Yahoo! Sports that he wants Monta as a teammate going forward (despite the trade rumors): [Mark] Jackson and Warriors assistant Michael Malone visited Curry in Charlotte for dinner last week in advance of the lockout. They also went to Memphis, Tenn., to meet with Monta Ellis and to St. Louis to visit David Lee. Curry said Jackson and Malone preached the importance of improving the team’s defense, and suggested the Warriors players work out together as much as possible during the lockout to build camaraderie. ‘I like the hiring,’ Curry said of Jackson. ‘He knows the game, and the only knock against him right now is he doesn’t have any coaching experience. For him to hire Pete Myers and Michael Malone behind him [as assistants] helps start a great staff. From what I can tell from the meeting with [Jackson] and Mike, they had a great chemistry just from the start. It’s going to be a work in progress day to day with the coaching philosophies he wants to implement for us and get us to where he wants us to go.’ Curry said he, Ellis, Lee and Dorell Wright, who lives in Los Angeles, plan to meet in each other’s cities for workouts. The Warriors have tried to downplay speculation they want to trade Ellis. Jackson has claimed to be a big fan of the Warriors’ leading scorer. ‘I don’t know about the talks he had with the front office or where they ended before the lockout, but as of right now, he’s still a Warrior,’ Curry said of Ellis. ‘We want him with our team. He makes us better. And I think with a fresh start and all the new faces with the organization that will help him forget about the past and not really affect what is going on right now. I know there has been a lot of turmoil with him and the organization in the past. I can’t speak for him, but I think the new look of our organization will help him make a difference.’”

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  • T-Money

    There is nothing wrong with the backcourt. Monta is actually a very willing defender and can guard bigger 2s.

  • jflash

    Trade him for a solid wing, and the warriors are good to go.

  • Jeremy

    Why all the hating on his defense. He’s super quick and seems willing to improve. Curry has NOT proved anything yet. I remember that people always praised A.I for his steals and defensive stats, but always kick people when they are down. Monta is the third best 2 guard in the League, and I would put him higher when it comes to offensive firepower. He is pretty damn reliable from 3, unlike kobe and wade. Being small shouldn’t be a crutch or an excuse for bad individual defense, and having a good defensive team helps too. Make the dude accountable and he’ll improve.

  • TimberKittiesChamps2012

    @Jeremy- true. but still if GW doesn’t want him we can gift wrap beasley, cash and a pick for him with a bow on top…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Jeremy, He has more offensive “fire power” than DWade and Kobe? Explain. And he is more reliable from 3 than Kobe? Explain. His best year from 3 was this year at 36%. Before that he was shooting 23% to 33% every other year. He is a good defender, but no he can’t guard bigger 2′s. Just he scores with them doens’t mean he’s stopping them.

  • Jeremy

    You’ll notice that Monta’s stats compare favorably with Dwade’s at this stage in career. To me, Monta has improved in leaps and bounds this past season. He needs better coaching. Look at his coaching list, Don Nelson, Keith Smart… come on Kobe and Dwade had JAX and Riley. You can’t discount his maturity and growth as a person this past season, he can become so much better. Dwade is almost on the wrong side of 30, Kobe is 32. Monta is 25, and if he gets stronger he can guard bigger 2′s Dwade is 6’6 he is barely 6’4. Monta’s is around the same, just a lightweight.

  • http://jimmyrod.com James Rodrigues

    I’ve been a Warrior fan (more or less) for the last half-century. Ellis and Curry are the most talented pair of guards since Frazier and the Pearl haunted Madison Square Garden. There’s no problem here at all. You start Ellis and Jackson in the back court. We’re saying to the opponent, “Here’s Havilicek. Kiss my Bay Area Backside.” Reggie Williams wears out the opponent’s starter.

    Meanwhile, the front court is keyed by the under-rated David Lee. He’s not a Karl Malone, force it “in your face” and make you swallow kind of a guy that the Ice Man was. But if you leave him alone for a split second, he makes you pay. That’s the next best thing at power forward.

    Five minutes or so into the game, you put in Curry. He shoots the lights out and their guard is too exhausted to do anything about it.

    The other forward is a Tommy Heinsohn kind of a guy. Mr. Wright. If you get the ball to his “spot, he’d “hit 40 percent, “barefoot and blindfolded” in the park. Once again a man who “makes you pay” when you ignore him and makes you pay when you foul him. And never forget, the Warriors just had Washington State’s GREAT shooter Klay Thompson “fall to them” at NBA pick number eleven over-all. He’s a Rick Barry 6’7″ tall. As a Stanford fan, I watched as Thompson flew by and scored. A lot! He will do the same for the Warriors.

    Center is the mystery position. With the Wackos shutting down free agency and the rest of the world, we’ll have to wait and see. But this version of the Warriors is much more attractive to free agents who demand to win as part of the deal. Those free agents would have the honor of joining the best pair of guards in the NBA. An excellent power forward in David Lee. A corner gunner who can “score in an airport or a thimble.”

    Some REAL CENTER will love this perfect new role and ink a Golden State deal. My only advice to the Warriors on any free agent is, make sure your choice isn’t an idiot at the free throw line. The Warriors have upgraded their fifteen foot set shots, massively, in the last few years. Don’t give that most important advantage back by paying millions to a “brick thrower.”

  • http://bleacherreport al jones

    The people who are talking about trading Monta Ellis don’t know basketball. First of all, why you do you think the celtics, lakers, portland, houston, new york knicks, and houston all won nba titles including just recently Dallas.



  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Not fair to tag Monta as a bad defender when he’s yet to play in a system that has required it. As far as his size, there nobody outside of Wade and Kobe that’ll take advantage of smaller SGs.

  • http://bedotwater.bandcamp.com BE.water

    DWade is only 6’4 too.

  • TheNightWatch*8*

    iSee Monta as one of the best in the league. The man can score in bunches as far as defense, Golden State doesnt really demand defense from their players. DONT LEAVE MONTA

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    @ james R, you get thumbs down, what about tim hardaway and mitch, or thomas and dumars, and many others.

  • http://slamonline.com da bulls

    i thought monta was coming to chicago but he ain’t. oj mayo or jr smith coming to chicago. i hate j-rich because he is out of sink and jamal crawfor is old and only is good on offense shannon brown can’t shoot and nick young is staying in the nation’s capithal

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    OH Dear I have read some ignorance in this area. Monta Ellis is a horrible defender, to the point where his efficient production only accounts for 5 more points a game then his counterpart. Basically, winning with Monta Ellis as your starting SG and “star player” is impossible. Sorry Warriors/Monta Fans.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Quite simply Monta Ellis is as “efficient” as Kobe Bryant, except he is not a lock down defender (no matter what team he is on – blaming GS system on his inability to defend ANY position is a cop-out and proof that you don’t actually watch Warriors games). He is not even a decent defender, and he’s only 6’3 175LB’s (Average SG is 6’5 210Lb’s) so no matter what if you want even a decent Defense and Monta at his natural position you would need a PG who is big and strong enough to guard 2′s. Which leaves you with only like 6 starting PG’s in the whole league that would be worth starting next to Monta Ellis.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I disagree though NBK, Ellis is a above average defender. Not by much, but he tries harder on defense than most guys and thats credit enough in my mind. I just think its rediculous to say he is good at guarding bigger 2′s. No he isn’t. But per how they play he gives it allot of energy on the D side of the ball also. But I onlt saw maybe 15 games of theirs or so. So i’m not a Warriors expert, but i would say he is above average. I’m not sure what the Warriors need. I think it’s more of a defensive coaching philosophy that would do them the most good. Offense isn’t a problem for them.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Golden State Warriors – Points Per 100 Possessions w/ Monta Ellis – 108.7PPG on Offense – 112.9PPG given up as a team on defense. Points Per 100 Possessions w/out Monta Ellis – 109.0PPG on Offense – 106.5 w/out Monta Ellis On Defense. SO not only is Golden State a “winning team” without MOnta Ellis on the court, they are actually better on Offense & Defense without him.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Should Monte Ellis be an all-star? There isn’t a guard in the league as fast as him and despite playing on a team with 3 D leaguers the warriors still manage to win some games.

    Here’s Hollinger’s answer:

    The Warriors are pushing him really hard for it, but honestly I don’t think he’s anywhere close to good enough to make it. His team has won 12 games all year and yet they play dramatically better when he’s off the floor; that’s a pretty damning statement there. Ellis has a high scoring average but once you let out the air from the hyper pace and all the minutes he plays, it’s not that impressive. Additionally, he’s one of the league’s least efficient offensive players; he also creates little for others despite having several talented scorers around him. I don’t mean to turn this into a rip job — he’s a talented young player who is pretty good right now and will only get better. But promoting him as an All-Star is completely preposterous.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I hope they do trade him just so we can see if they are better with or with out Ellis. I think they are better with him than with Keith Bogans or someone of that quality. No he isn’t an All Star, but he probably will be in a couple years. Unless they get a 20ppg SG that is 6’5″ plus then they are worse off imo.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    My thing is they don’t need Any offense. Even without anyone to replace him. Idk if Keith Bogans would make them better, but they can’t get any worse

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yeah, this is a crazy idea only cause Monta would NOT do it, but they should start a keith bogans type and have Ellis come of the bench. I think that move alone, if Ellis went for it, would help them so much. Then you could sub him in (PG or SG) and have him still get 30-35 mins of high octane offense, but maintain a defense first team. Still, they have garbage defenders all around, so it’s hard to say if the team itself could be a decent defensive team, but they have the players to be a low seed playoff team in my eyes.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I like that idea, Ellis would never be down for that. But I do
    Think that would work better then the full time curry Ellis backcourt. I as the warriors and sixers would be discussing some variation of an Ellis & Brandon Wright for Andre Iguodala deal – it solves needs for both teams, plus Phili has uber defender Jrue Holliday

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    If your coach doesn’t ask the team to play defense, won’t most players just go for buckets and not play any D since winning is obviously not a real goal?

  • http://Slamonline.com Datkid

    Monts Ellis has some amazing offensive firepower…but he is however a terrible defender. TERRIBLE. don’t argue with me here.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    Monta’s game has its obvious holes, but I don’t get why everyone acts like Steph Curry is some sort of untouchable cornerstone of that team. We are talking about a point guard who plays no defense and has a career assist/turnover ratio under 2. Why shouldn’t the Warriors trade him and build around Ellis? I don’t get what makes Curry so much better of a building block than Ellis.

  • Mason

    Steph is definitely the cornerstone and the future of this team. A sharp shooting point guard who can create his own shot and for other. He’s also a good and disciplined team defender which makes him perfect for a Dallas Maverick type defense that Mark Jackson is trying to implement. Even Coach Jerry Sloan complimented Steph’s much improved defense last season. Steph Curry has great work ethic and extremely coachable. He is a first class individual and a great representative for this organization.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ what: Well, Curry is a bit younger than Monta and also plays more of a traditional 1 role, though not by much–he’s still a shooter and scorer by nature. Other than that, I really don’t know. You’re right about Ellis. The 1-2 combo tweeners are usually tricky to coach/build around.

  • davidR

    nbk, you clearly do not watch warrior games.

  • davidR

    if monta is such a horrible defender, why is he asked to take on the opposing teams best perimeter player night in night out? did you know he gets asked to defend kobe & durant? he does a very good job each time, too.
    that hollinger +/- ish doesn’t work on the warriors. monta’s efficiency takes a huge hit because he’s asked to be the main scoring option, main perimeter defender, play the most minutes (no guard depth off the bench), AND be the main distributor.

  • davidR

    nbk, so monta doesn’t create for others? did you know that he leads the league in assists among all SGs?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Having Monta Ellis as your “best perimeter defender” is why they are so horrible. Even though Dorrell Wright was their best defender but to entertain you we’ll assume your right. Have fun losing forever. And Ellis is a creator in that he passes when he gets stuck in a situation where he can’t score. He doesn’t create out of anything but a last resort. And Ellis did a piss poor job guarding everyone all season. Oh and once again, the Warriors are better on BOTH ends of the court WITHOUT Monta Ellis. This is an unarguable fact. And I watch as many Warriors games as I can, which was somewhere between 20 and 30 last season. Anyone who argues Monta Ellis is even a good defender just doesn’t even understand the sport they are watching. Or claiming to watch.

  • Chadreius

    Nbk iSee yu just hate monta. Watch the game where he scored 2 points and the game he had 15 points and 11 assists. Tell me monta can’t defend and passes only when needed. As far as Kobe and dwade go on offense yes they win somewhat yet percentage wise Kobe and monta match up. Who plays better defense? This year shows me Ellis.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I have no issue with Monta other then with a team that peddles him as their best player. Anyone who considers him a good defender can enjoy their time in the land of oz.

  • Chadreius

    Who has scored more points on him this year than he has scored on them save Kobe?

  • http://nba.com LaRon

    Monta stay Rememba champion guards
    gus williams downton freddie and dennis johnson thats you steph and dorrel warrior for life