Wednesday, August 17th, 2011 at 12:52 pm  |  113 responses

Bill Walton: ‘I Should’ve Punched Rasheed Wallace in the Face’

There’s a really great feature about Arvydas Sabonis on Grantland today, but we couldn’t get through it without laughing about Bill Walton’s take on a Rasheed Wallace-Sabonis conflict, during which Walton was broadcasting the game on national television: “In the following season, Wallace threw the towel at Sabonis during a timeout of a game against the Lakers. Sabonis had accidentally smacked Wallace’s face earlier when he collided in the post with O’Neal. … Walton, who was broadcasting the game nationally, still feels remorse over the incident. ‘It was one of the lowest moments of my life,’ he said. ‘If I was any kind of a man, I would have got up from that broadcast table and walked across the court and punched Rasheed Wallace in the nose. But I let Sabonis and the game of basketball and the human race down that day.’”

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  • http://64dollacologne.tumblr.com/ cramzy

    I love Bill Walton but he dont want it Sheed. Im sure of it

  • http://64dollacologne.tumblr.com/ cramzy


  • fruizm

    sheed wouldnt even last a 3 min round.

  • martey

    Walton is a piece of work.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Grantland is becoming a must-visit site.
    Nice job so far by TSG.

  • T-Ray

    You let the human race down? Really? I don’t think it was that extreme dude

  • LA Huey

    The master of hyperbole. Good thing for Walton, he wasn’t “any kind of man”. Sheed could have played the part of Kermit Washington to Walton’s Rudy T.

  • Dru

    Bill … shut up. Sheed would mop the floor with you.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Oooh, i remember watching this game back in ’01 and feeling for sabonis because he’s getting abused by shaq, inadvertently flails and whacks sheed, then sheed acts like a baby about it, refuses to let it go, and throws a towel in sabonis’ face during the ensuing timeout. While i hate bill walton (he’s a hyperbolic moron), he’s right on about this. Sabonis really shoulda let his russian side show for once–he woulda destroyed sheed in a fight.

  • http://gmail.com z

    again, i hate bill walton, but i remember losing some respect for sheed while watching this game. what a baby–sabonis is your teammate, dummy!

  • kbj

    walton you made the right choice..for your sake at least.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I agree with z. I remember watching hoping Sabonis would whoop the sh*t outta Sheed after that.

  • T-Money

    darksaber: meh. depends on what you’re looking for, i guess. i’m not really interested in the pop culture references and all the narratives they’re trying to shove down our throats.

  • hiphopcop

    Throw it down BIG MAN!! THROW IT DOWN!!!!

  • http://dsjfklfl.com Jukai

    Yeah, kinda upsetting that the only person who was angry enough and big enough to come to Sabonis’ aid during the whole Sheed thing was the only man with more foot injuries than Sabonis.

  • nicholas

    sheed wouldn’t take that from some hippie dead head

  • http://gmail.com z

    lol at juks, interesting observation

  • The Real Z

    Dude is NOT Russian. Like calling a dude born and raised in Shanghai Japanese

    (although he does speak the language)

  • bike

    Sabonis should have ripped Sheed’s head off and barfed down the hole.

  • http://gmail.com z

    lmao @ theReal Z, sorry man, didn’t mean to jack your “name,” and sorry for not being specific enough about sabas’ nationality (what is it, btw? just curious). I guess i’m enough of an a-hole to consider anyone from the ussr to be a “russian”

  • LA Huey

    Sabas is Lithuanian.

  • http://dksflf.com Jukai

    Interesting question to pose: who do you think has smoked more pot during a four year time period with the Blazers, Rasheed or Bill?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Z-Bo beats them both. Unless you combine a year of Bill’s UCLA days. Then he WINS. Rasheed was more of a coke guy.

  • kiwi

    Shred has a big mouth, often a cover for a girly fighting style, waltons old school sure he would’ve shut shred up

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Co-sign L.A. Huey.
    I’m a prince of hyperbole.
    Bill Walton is the king of hyperbole.

  • MrSuper

    I would be careful not to start a fight with Sabonis. In his younger years he was a bit of a hothead…


    There is also an incident where he gets into a fight while playing with Real Madrid, although i cannot find it on Youtube anymore (probably deleted), but I remember watching it on the spots news. Imagine an injured giant running after a power forward (an afrcan american playing in Spain if I remeber corectly) while his compatriot is lying on the hardwood after receiving a “glasgow kiss” from the Lithuanian.

  • Allenp

    I find it funny that Walton was this upset. He did go to school in the 60s I am sure he saw a lot more human failures then and I have never heard him talk about punching people. Let us not discuss living in Boston during the height of the busing war and Lakers rivalry. Funny what makes people really upset.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    If Wallace threw a towel at a Black man, would Walton be as upset?
    Let me find out that Walton is an undercover racist. lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Max

    Sheed and them towels man..

  • Allenp

    If you watched the Fab Five documentary it was obvious how Walton rolls.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Nah, I already know.
    I’m just trying to troll.

  • http://dksflf.com Jukai

    Allen: be more specific please?

  • http://dksflf.com Jukai

    You know what, just don’t. If anyone thinks Walton is a racist after reading what Maurice Lucas had to say about him, you’re a god damn idiot.

  • doyouwantmore

    These are the same people who say the Tea Party is racist because they’re against democratic fiscal policies, Rush Limbaugh is racist because he says Obama hasn’t created any jobs, Fox News is racist because they don’t carry water for Obama like MSNBCNN, Christians are racist because etc. etc. – - – But I bet you don’t complain when people use that bull&hit accusation against someone you don’t like.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelJR_NZ Michael NZ

    @Darksaber at 1.26pm: True. Site has been great.

  • http://dksflf.com Jukai

    doyouwantmore: Oh, you crazy conservative nutcase. I don’t want to say that the Tea Party OR Fox News OR Christians are racist because that’s generalizing an entire group, and I can not say that every person in groups that large are totally racist or not racist at all.
    However, you have to be a blind idiot if you don’t think Limbaugh is racist; something I already know you are.
    Here’s a few quotes by your friend Rush:
    -“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
    -“Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.”
    -“A Chavez is a Chavez. We’ve Always Had Problems with Them”
    -“If homosexuality being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable?”
    -“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
    -“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”
    -“Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”
    -“Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.” (To an African American caller)
    -“We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.”
    AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE: “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”
    Rush Limbaugh also critisized Steinbrenner for firing a lot of white guys and making a lot of “African Americans rich,” called Obama an affirmative action candidate, said Obama and Oprah were only successful because they were black, said the “black frame of mind” was terrible during a rant about unemployment, played the absurdly racist Jim Crowe referencing song “Barack the Magic Negro” on his radio show about half a dozen times, has used the word spade to describe Obama, described Obama’s economic programs as “reparations”, said Obama would not have acted against the Somolian pirates had he known they were young, black muslims, mocked how the Chinese president spoke by using a stereotypical chinese voice and sounds, used the term “Massa” (racist term for master) when referring to Govenor Patterson…. I don’t really need to go on.
    I’m sure a couple of these are just misquotes, others can be debated as not racist at all. Good luck disproving everything I have listed which I can cite easily.

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    That was a quality pwning, Jukai. Top work.

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  • DieselMechanic

    Maybe Sheed was trying to get him fired up so he could stop Shaq.

  • Thomas

    Jukai for the win……….YESSSS!!

  • Irocknroll

    Oh and do You Want more!?

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  • LA Huey

    I forgot about Walton’s stance on the Fab Five. The 30 for 30 documentary has a clip that tells me all he needs to know. Walton can be best friends with brothers in the house but only tolerates those in the field.

  • Allenp


  • http://dksflf.com Jukai

    LOL, yeah, Walton called the Fab 5 overrated. He must HATE the blacks. That can’t actually be Allen posting, right?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Bill O’Reilly’s pretty damn racist too.
    I lean a lot more towards the conservative side when it comes to politics. I’m pro-guns, pro-life, pro-God, etc.
    But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna turn a blind eye to the fact that too many conservatives, Republicans and tea partiers are just downright racist. It’s horrible.


    la huey said it almost best.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    He didn’t call just call the Fab Five overrated. If that’s all you heard, then we aren’t talking about the same version of reality.
    And people need to stop acting like because some black person vouches for you, that means you can’t be a racist.
    If a child vouches for a pedophile as a nice guy, does that mean he’s not a pedophile?
    If a woman vouches for an abusive man, does that mean he’s not abusive?
    If a Jew vouches for Mel Gibson, does that mean he’s not Anti-Semetic?
    What type of dumb@ss logic is that? Seriously, think that through again.
    Personal testimonials are cool, but when they directly contradict actions, like Walton never saying ANYTHING about Boston fans that was negative, or never speaking out against Jim Crow era racism during college while rolling hard with hippies, tells me that he’s selective in who he directs his outrage towards. And the Fab Five documentary, taken with these comments, provides valuable insight about who gets his dander up.

  • http://gmail.com z

    LA Huey pretty much summed it up nicely. Thanks mane. Juks, you gotta admit, walton’s kinda…like all the other ex-hippies that have found new lives as pillars of conservatism

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^^AP so you think it got Walton more heated because it was a black guy that did it to a Russian white guy? As opposed to if Sasha Vujacic(wrong era, but trying to make a point) did it to Sabonis he wouldn’t have gotten heated? I think thats rediculous. Sheed is known for being a bit of a doucher. If Ray Allen had done it you think he would have wanted to go after Allen.(No) He wanted to go after Sheed because he was a big dude that was being a dork who had a rep for doing those things and no one was saying anything or stopping him. Not because it was a black guy picking on a white guy. At least imo.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Walton said:
    “I think this is one of the most overrated and most underachieving teams of all-time,” Walton said on the record. “These are guys who come in and epitomize what is wrong with a lot of basketball players. They think they’re better than they are.”
    First, a team with a starting five composed of all-freshman and then all-sophomores gets to the National Championship game twice in two years, and they are overrated and underachieving. Think about that. If coaches gets to back to back Final Fours they cement their legacy, but for these players, they were underachievers and overrated despite being coached by a mannequin.
    Second, he said this team was the epitome of what was wrong with a lot of basketball players. Why? Honestly, what did they do? They went to two championship games! That is what’s crazy to me. He said they were overrated after they went to the title game as five freshmen!
    Come on now. Dude had issues with them, not just their games. And given his past, that’s telling.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Let me be clear.
    Sheed was dead wrong. When he did that, I always looked at him differently as a player particularly since Sabonis was wrestling with a MONSTER, and Sheed never, EVER wanted to tussle with Shaq. So, I’m not defending Sheed.
    I’m saying that Walton talking about violence, and about how his decision not get violent made him less of man, and how Sheed’s actions were so horrible in the scale of humanity bothered me.
    Walton played in Boston when it wasn’t uncommon to hear a black player called a n(igger. That’s the bottom line. Yeah, I know he’s in to hyperbole, but I’ve also paid attention to how he uses it.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Listen Walton’s a huge dork. We all know that. Anytime you have to say everything in quotes by a guy in his slow dumb deep weird voice you know the dudes a bit of a joke. I’m personally just so tired of throwing around racism like we know someones heart. With the talking heads in the media thats fine because they display their ignorance on a nightly basis, but I’m not one to read between lines and try to figure out how someones brain works. Who cares anyway. We live in America where everyone has equal rights and equal opportunity so people cannot oppress someone from doing anything. What I see in this is a man whom was jealous of the success of a team and indivisuals. Why do we need to try and add more into it than that? Punks come in black, white, yellow and red. It pisses me off when I see a punk being a punk. I think Walton saw a punk being a punk and that pisssed him off. I don’t see where color of skin comes into the argument.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I don’t have to know somebody’s heart to call them a racist
    I don’t have to know somebody’s heart to call them a pedophile
    I don’t have to know somebody’s heart to call them abusive.
    I don’t have to know somebody’s heart to call them a jerk
    Basically, I call people a racist if they behave like a racist. That’s the normal standard for applying labels to people. If you commit racist acts, you’re a racist.
    This whole “know their heart” standard is some bullcrap.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    1. The Fab Five were not a collection of punks
    2. If you believe that everyone in America has equal rights and equal opportunity and nobody is oppressed, you really haven’t been paying attention. Period.

  • LA Huey

    By “punk” you mean Sheed? If you’re referring to the Fab Five, you need to explain yourself.

  • LA Huey

    ^directed to LakeShow

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Then you continue to do you Allen. I don’t know Bill Walton and he has not shown me anything to make me think he is racist. If not judging people unneccisarily is bullcrap then i’m full of crap. Can you point someone out to me that is full of budding talent in someway, but is being held back by someone or some system? This isn’t the 50′s guys. Anyone can do anything they set their mind to. And one more time just tell me exactly how Bill Walton is racist based upon the fact he thought Rasheed Wallace(well known punk)was being a punk.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I will point you to the mandatory sentencing laws for crack cocaine compared to powder cocaine.
    I will point you the studies that show that having an “ethnic” name makes it less likely you will get hired for a job even when you have equal credentials.
    I will point you to the stats that say a college educated black man is less likely to be hired than a white man with a diploma and no degree. And a black man with just a diploma is less likely to be hired than a white man without one.
    I will point you to the studies that show that health care and educational opportunities decrease in quality the less white your neighborhood becomes.
    I will tell you that black neighborhoods in Chicago with less crime, have lower home values than white neighborhoods with more crime and similar sized homes according to a study by the Chicago Sun Times.
    I will point you to the studies that show that blacks and whites convicted of similar crimes with similar criminal records receive vastly different prison sentences, with blacks getting the longer terms.
    I could go on, but I’ll stop there.
    Again, Walton’s comments stuck out in my mind because he generated that type of outrage for Rasheed despite living and playing when and where he lived and played. That says something about Bill Walton in my mind. You can choose to ignore it if you like.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Again I bring up that this would not happen if it were Ray Allen rather than Sheed. And Walton would have been just as pissed if Sasha Vujacic had done it. Sheed is a punk, Ray Allen is not. Simple as that in my eyes, but we see the world through two different prisms. If a white kid walked into my store and had an attitude and displayed punk like mentality then guess what, i’m treating him like a punk. Black kid comes in with the same attitude.. Gets treated the same way. But if the white kid isn’t a punk and the black kid is then guess who is getting treated like a punk? The black kid. Because of his race? No. Because he’s a punk. Walton saw a punk and wanted to put a punk in his place. Not that Walton saw a black guy and wanted the black guy to leave his “fellow” white buddy alone. Thats how I view this. We view it differently though. Thats what makes this world beautiful and I respect your opinion on the matter AP.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Walton saw a punk and wanted to put a punk in his place. Not that Walton saw a black guy and wanted the black guy to leave his “fellow” white buddy alone.
    I never said this.
    What I said was basically, “How many racist punks has Bill Walton seen during his playing days and commenting career, and how often has he talked about punching them? How often has he said that his failure to physically assault them was a failure of the human race?”
    You’ve never heard that. And Bill Walton saw a LOT of punks. Trust me on that. So what’s up?
    I see something up.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Bill has a hard on for Sabonis. We all have heard him gloat about him. I think dude just didn’t want ANYONE touching his boy. But thats my point of view, which is different from yours because of what has made us up to be who we are today. You have seen and been around things I have not. So you have a right to judge him from your perspective. Myself, I think Bill Walton is a good guy who is not racist but I don’t truly know because I am not him. Anyway thanks for explaining your points well and having a good convo on the matter.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    Allen, I haven’t even read anything you’ve written here because it’s all garbage. It really is. Hideous, offensive trash. You’re calling a man who has praised people taking hard stances on racism and critisized others who have made racist remarks a racist himself… over one quote, calling the Fab 5 overrated.
    Let’s be honest: It was a group of teenagers who show-boated, trashed talked, went for the flashy play over the smart play and ushered in an age of me-first athletes. This is EVERYTHING WALTON WAS AGAINST. Now, the majority of people who hated the fab 5 didn’t even see these things: they saw five inner city black kids with baggy pants doing things off the court they couldn’t understand. That’s where a lot of the hate came from.
    And your comment about “one black guy vouching” was borderline nonsense and insulting to Maurice Lucas. Lucas was a sharp guy who HATED the system and hated how the players were treated. He also hated the fact that the NBA viewed Walton as the great white hope, and said he would have resented Walton if Walton had not viewed the entire thing ridiculous and always played it down. Walton is the exact opposite of a racist, and he sure ain’t a conservative.
    I think you just see a white guy calling a black guy a punk and you’re reacting the way you usually react. Whatever. Keep on your crusade. I’m done with this.

  • http://dsjfklf.com Jukai

    And Rasheed Wallace is a punk and 99% of the NBA has wanted to punch him but didn’t have the balls because Wallace is also a punk who can back it up. Fact. He’s disrespectful, he attacks his own teammates, he takes drugs and laughs about it, he tried to physicall assault a referee… Walton has always loved Sabonus and wanted to attack Sheed for attacking his own teammates. If you see racism in that, take off your tinted glasses.

  • Seven Duece

    I lost respect for Bill Walton when he went in on the Fab Five for being apologetically black (which is most of the haters hated them). Why he didn’t like Sheed may be personal (Wallace representing his former franchise & all). I’d hate to believe he’s a racist; but let’s keep it really real: people that don’t consider themselves racist, say and do racist things sometimes. If you do the verb enough, you become the noun.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It was about team play. Really? The Fab Five went for the flashy play over the smart play? DID YOU ACTUALLY WATCH THE FAB FIVE? Flashy? Yes. Stupid? No. In both title games they were the inexperienced team, and they honestly got beaten by a better team in one game, and outcoached in the other one. Period.
    Walton said this: Walton sent out the tweet pictured above after last night’s victory by the Heat in Game 1 of the Finals, saying “A Miami Heat title win would be historic. It would be the first time a member of the Fab 5 won a ring that wasn’t gift wrapped by a booster.”
    From a UCLA guy, given their history, that’s laughable.
    Bill Walton didn’t like the Fab Five. And it wasn’t because they played basketball the wrong way. If you think that, you can go on thinking that.
    All I know is that playing in the Boston Garden in the 1980s Walton saw far more depraved actions and heard worse comments. He has never spoken about regretting not being violent in those situations. The fact that he decided that a punk move by Rasheed was worthy of violence, and that he regretted not committing that violence, is telling to me. To you, it just means he loves Sabonis. To me, that’s not all it is. Rasheed was a punk for that move, but Walton disliked the Fab Five and they were far from punks. Very, very far. I ain’t giving him the benefit of the doubt, that’s your choice.
    I actually liked Bill Walton before I saw the Fab Five documentary. Then I see this and it makes things clearer in my mind. I have never called Bill Walton a racist. I have pointed out that reasons why you and Lakeshow think he shouldn’t be called a racist aren’t valid. And I have noted that there is something fishy about his actions.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Thanks Jukai and Seven for the 2 cents. Jukai we’re obviously on the same side on this one. SevenDuece: Do you think Bill Walton has done enough verb to be the noun? I don’t see it personally.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Allen you seem to be happily ready to jump to racist conclusions. Would you say that is true? Also just out of curiousity and just so I know a little better whom I am speaking with, would you consider yourself a racist?

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    Stop typing in italicized text. It doesn’t make you look smarter. And to transition on that point, I was old enough to watch the Fab 5, and yes, they sometimes did not play smart. They sometimes would throw crazy passes instead of simpler, safer ones. They sometimes would try crazy dunks into of a simple two hander. None of them were stupid; more to the point, their basketball IQ was off-the-charts and that’s why they were all great BBall players. But there is a difference in being stupid and making a stupid play because you want to be flashy, and that’s what they loved to do. I don’t have a problem with this: you know my love for flashy points, that’s what I think makes the game fun. But Walton has always had a problem with this, and he’s opined about it before. He also doesn’t has opined about his lack of love for the trash talk and the overly flashy gestures– back in the 1970s, if you showboated enough, you got punched in the mouth. Bill clearly didn’t like the Fab 5.
    Maybe, JUST MAYBE, someone can think the Fab 5 are overrated without being racist. I know, novel concept, but just maybe, there are people out there who really do think a team that never won deserves too much credit. Me personally? I loved the Fab 5 as a team of great players but I think their cultural relevance is overblown. Does it bother me? Nope. Does it make me a racist for saying I think their cultural relevance is overblown? Well, I guess that’s for you to decide.
    And yes, you have more than implied Bill Walton was racist. Don’t play this halfway crap. Be a man and give your opinion.

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    I also don’t know why you keep referencing Bill Walton’s time in Boston. How do you know he doesn’t regret not going after a fan or punching a teammate? Are Robert Parish and Dennis Johnson and Nate Archibald all self-hating black guys for never wanting to do the same?
    I’ve read Bill Walton speak out about racial injustice, and heard teammates rave about Bill enough to make my judgements. You can keep focusing on three quotes.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Great points Jukai.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Hahaha, I don’t need a cheerleading section Lakeshow, all points are great when you agree

  • Rainman

    Why are people going on about how Sheed would whoop Waltons as, and are ignoring the fact that Sheed had the NERVE to throw ANYTYHING in the face of one of the most talented big men to ever grace the earth (dont believe me? b4 this dude got to the NBA? he was embarassing NBA bigs-when NBA bigs werent rare to find in the NBA either , like today- in international play.)

    are u kidding me? i woulda been offended to hearing of it.

  • Rainman

    Sabonis for one, even b4 he became injured, made the most of his physical gifts, unlike u Rasheed, u had the tools to become an all time great.


  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Sabonis would be a top 10 center all-time had he played in the NBA in his prime.
    Rasheed is very much an A-hole.
    Walton dislikes field n*****s.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I was just so excited to agree with you. Your always such a bone head ;)

  • The Spaniard

    “These are the same people who say the Tea Party is racist because they’re against democratic fiscal policies”

    Yeah…plus some of them were walking around with highly offense pictures of a black man caricature. And all this mad-cap foaming rage seems to coincide with a black man in office. Republicans have been spending like maniacs since Reagan without this sort of uproar.

    “Rush Limbaugh is racist because he says Obama hasn’t created any jobs”

    Rush is “racist” because he makes bigoted comments on a regular basis.

    “Fox News is racist because they don’t carry water for Obama like MSNBCNN, Christians are racist because”

    Fox News is simply a distortion outlet pandering to the racist leaning of some of it’s viewers.

    Now to the article itself…

    Wallace didn’t throw the towel at Sabonis because Sabonis accidentally hit him in the face. He threw the towel because he was frustrated with a 7’3″ 300 pound man flailing around like a little school girl instead of holding his position and taking the blow to the chest.

    With that said, I didn’t agree with his immature reaction at the time and I still don’t. Rasheed Wallace was, and still is, a spoiled emotional challenged nitwit who could have benefited from some proper male guidance while younger.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Mission accomplished.

  • http://www.eugeneellisonlawoffice.com gene ellison

    please bill enough of your hype, you should marry yourself

  • jody mack

    Bill Walton needed to talk. And keep his relevance. So he says controversial things. The Shaq NBA “football” era was a joke. I can still hear the collisions in the paint. More physical than today’s NFL. If you wanted to punch Sheed, you should have gotten up and punched him. Also the Fab 5, two championship games in their first two years was impressive or bad basketball. No other program has done that UCLA included. And I dislike Michigan.

  • dubs

    throw it down big man throw it down

  • bill

    You would have gotten your butt kicked too! Bill Walton should have been arrested as a fraud and thief. He should never have been elected to the HOF . He really only had limited success as a player. He earned his stardom in the operating rooms where the real stars were the surgeons who put his feet back together. Other than the 2 years at Portland his career was nothing more than an exalted cheerleader on the Boston Celtics bench. His election to the Hall was the charity donation of the decade.

  • Treezee

    Walton would get knocked the f**k out

  • catfish

    Walton let humanity down when he accepts escalating violence arising from a misunderstanding. Good one bill, you are a klASS act.

  • Dave

    In regards to Walton’s comments about the Fab Five, I think they arise more from where he played his college ball than from his race. Remember that Walton played at UCLA under John Wooden – a coach that famously spent the first practice teaching his players how to put their socks on properly so that they would not get blisters. Wooden was as “old school” and “fundamental” as they come, and one could certainly argue that the Fab Five were at the polar opposite end of the spectrum. And UCLA has won 11 national championships, so I suppose to a player from that program, 2 trips to the national championships and zero victories may constitute underachievement.

    Walton actually took a lot of heat during his career (especially collegiately) for being too liberal, not conservative. As Kareem or Robert Parish if Walton is racist; I imagine they would say no.

    Besides, as many of you have correctly noted here, Walton is the master of the hyperbole. The dude exagerrates pretty much everthing he says; that’s sort of his thing.

    Bottom line, though: Walton and Sheed in the octagon would certainly be a match I would purchase on pay per view.

  • http://pickandroll.tumblr.com/ airs

    Great discussion guys!

  • http://franchiseplay.net franchiseplay

    Walton was probably high as Gator’s On The Refrigerator anyway….wait a minute, Sheed might have been too

  • http://gmail.com z

    very interesting discussion, man. Very telling that allenp makes some points about walton, his playinng days, and his decisions on what things he does and doesn’t tolerate, and jukai and lakeshow flip the f**k out on him. Isn’t juks homosexual? If so, i gotta say, that i’m astonished that you wouldn’t be showing more, um, solidarity with the blackies…yknow another demographic of people who have been (and still often are) discriminated against for an arbitrary reason that they have no control over…sounds kinda like what happens to homosexuals to me. (by the same token, i will admit that i find it disgraceful that by and large black people are often virulently homophobic–there’s no excusing that. If you;re black then you should be in favor of equal rights for gays. Period) and i’m black, case you’re pondering

  • Kyle

    Sheed is like a bizarro Dirk Nowitzki. He was a 7 footer who grabbed 6.7 rebounds a game while living on the perimiter. At the age of 28 he became basically a guy who was gonna jack up at least 4 to 5 3′s a game but hit them at a pathetic rate. Unlike Dirk, he shied away from contact NEVER getting to the line although he shot 72 percent from there. So it was probably a good thing that for being such a physical thug that he only got to the line 2.9 times a night.

    His overrated defense included a career in which he averaged 1.3 blocks a game. Again, he’s a true 7 footer with long arms and talked about DEFENSE.

    Seriously… how did Sheed make any all-star games? 16.4 ppg, and 7 rpg in the Western Conference back in 2000 was good enough to be an all-star? Or how about his two selections while he was a Piston… 15.1 ppg shooting 43 percent and grabbing 6.8 rebounds a game… and then in 08 he made it scoring 12.7 ppg and grabbing 6 boards a game. Really? Rasheed Wallace was a fake thug who is one of the most overrated players.

  • Big Marv

    Sheed would rip off walton’s arm and beat him with it.

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  • http://yahoo stingray

    sound racist to me

  • http://Slam Brian Good

    That wallace chump is just that a punk and a chump, he thrives on acting bad to smaller players, and players who did,nt want to get involved in scuffles, I seen when Superman (Shaq) and superman 2(howard) have gotten into scuffles with rasissy he did,nt act so bad then in fact he cowardly turned his back and walked away, he would,nt try that with Dave Robinson or even old man Barkley, stating oh we,re friends, yeah your friends are guys you know you can,t beat, Basically shereed walla– is a bully, and a big sissy, Dennis Rodman would,ve torn him up also, I am so glad that chump is finally gone from the game, What a JOKE he was, A BIG FAT O

  • Stone

    Well I’m glad Walton finally admits he’s not any kind of a man. It’s funny he’s trying to act all hard 10 years later.

  • Willis Jackson

    In their respective primes, Walton would’ve handled Sheed like a rag doll on the court and in the ring, octagon, on the mat, what have you.

    Bill Walton was 100x the basketball player Rasheed Wallace ever was and is of greater certainty 100x the PERSON Rasheed Wallace will ever be.

    I remember being at the epic Lakers-Blazers series. Game 5. I was on the floor level and had a first hand viewing of watching Wallace losing his cool and being ejected that game. If Wallace keeps his cool, his team probably keeps the lead, the Blazers win that game and don’t have to face the Lakers in game 7 on the road to have that epic meltdown.

    Rahseed’s legacy has been cemented. Loser, cancer and lowlife.

  • http://slamonline ordinarybrutha

    It is interesting how lines were drawn based on color. It is extremely obvious which perspectives came form black men vs.those of white men. First of all once again Walton blew the whole thing out proportion. We do not know the relationship between Sheed and Sabonis, they were teammates!!! Walton overreacted when he saw the towel throwing incident.If you are going to make a comment about anything please get the facts. His disposition was based on pure conjecture/emotion and not fact. He saw a black man throwing a towel at a white man and reacted in favor of his brethren. I would wager that this incident did not faze Sabonis one iota. There was reason why Walton did not respond; Maurice Lucas was not around.

  • Tonka

    Tongan/Cambodian man here. It’s just a funny quote, “brotha”, lighten up with the whole race commentary. And throwing a towel in the face is a dick move from a dude who threw a basketball at the crotch of another teammate and known to have a very short fuse. If some fool threw a towel in my face after some accidental on-court I’d at least be tempted to rush them, and Bill in his role as Defender of Humanity in general and the Game of Basketball in particular has a natural empathy toward his fellow Big Man. It might be an over-reaction but it’s a perfectly understandable one nevertheless.

  • Luke LeDuke

    Rasheed would be punching back all afternoon just to take out those fronts…

  • http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/a-quick-guide-to-the-issues-of-the-nba-lockout/2011/10/11/gIQAon1ZbL_story.html unf*ckwitable

    I dont like Walton but i dont think he is racist.

  • http://facebook.com/tronjohnson Chief

    Bill Walton needs to stop talking like he did anything valuable to the NBA since stepping into the booth. As a Native American man I empathize with most minorities. When I heard the words out of Bill Walton’s mouth I could only think of two things, how much the game of basketball had changed from Bill Walton’s day. And how &*(@ing racist the comment sounded. Now if Bill had been and NBA Great(not a good player a great one)I could let this slide, however he went to Portland(hippy) had one great year, smoked some weed and his knees gave out. That fact that Juwan is still playing is a testament to his character and greatness. Bill Walton was about as useful as Sam Bowie was for that franchise.

  • Jukebox

    I watched that game as well & sheeed qowas a moron for that. He wasn’t man enough to guard shaq & dimdnt want any part of him so he took it out on saboninis

  • http://Slam Larry

    Hey Bill ” Tenderfoot” Walton you mean you should have limped accross the court and………….. probally got the dust kicked out of you!

  • bill

    Bill Walton backed into the HOF. If He had raised one cowardly hand towards Wallace he would have needed a stretcher.And he knows that. When clubfoot played for the title with Portland,it was a smaller guy, the late great Maurice Lucas who was the enforcer or tough guy.He won that title for Portland because the 76er’s were scared shi#$%^s of him.

  • GroovyDude

    I happen to personally know a girl who knew Sheed and Jerry Stackhouse on a personal level while they were at UNC. This girl, who is now working for a law firm in NYC and is BLACK, described Sheed as a “Philly NI***R! She also described Jerry Stackhouse as a gentleman.
    Case CLOSED!

  • Blaze Benedict


    Methinks Rasheed would have been too high to care about Ol’ Wild Bill, but if it came to fists, I would have to take Rasheed hands down because he’s from Philly.

    Walton grew up in the all-white township of La Mesa, California. He don’t want none of Sheed, and that’s why he stayed his ass in the broadcast chair

  • Ken

    this is Bill Walton being Bill Walton. This is Bill Walton saying I let my friend and teammate down in that situation. I was a coward and I have regretted that I acted cowardly in that instance and i have felt shame and remorse from it all this time…. Bill Walton will stand taller for making his public admission… while the rest of us stand around talkin dirt….. well, anyone here wanna admit publicly to the whole world where they were a coward one time???? not me…. takes a big man….

  • Moosa

    Jukai and LakeShow for president! This has been one of the most interesting comment sections in a while here at SLAM. I for one do not understand how anyone can call Walton a racist, and I dont think anyone he’s ever played with would say that either. Walton is old school, he doesn’t like flash, especially when it doesnt get backed up. I miss Walton as an announcer, he was honest and old school, he put a lot of things in perspective. I would have loved to hear him in the booth for a few Miami games, he would have gone nuts over all the camera posing those guys do after every single play. The game evolves, in both positive and negative ways. It’s important to have guys like Walton remind people of the things that really matter in the game, beyond the shiny suits, posing and PR-machine. He’s all about the purity of the game. And that has nothing do to with race.

  • Moosa

    Oh, and wallace was always a punk, totally regardless of race. He threw a towel at a hall of famer for an accidental elbow. Nuff said. Walton is a hyberbolic kind of guy, he’s not saying he would punch Wallace, he’s saying Wallace is an a**hole. Which is correct.

  • bill

    Hey Bill,Believe me.You did the right thing by keeping your NO playing ass in your seat.You and that no playing son of yours can’t handle SHEED.

  • D Paul

    The number of reverse racist comments are expected but astronomical. Sabonis was a big and awkward Lithuanian. O’Neil was mobile and probably pushed Sabonis into Wallace. Wallace is the poster child for “street thug”. Walton was one of the few non blacks who played unafraid. There is constant agitation by African-Americans against anyone who is not. This is physical and constant. The recent episode of Carmelo Anthony rearranging the face of Hedo Turkoglu is well within these racist parameters. He also ran his coach out of town and undercut the success of Jeremy Lin. The hero of the Syracuse run to the 2003 NCAA title is nothing more than another Rasheed Wallace street thug whose gym shorts are just a little longer.

  • http://twitter.com/Powerhouse233 Cornelius

    Wow, what a scumbag you are making this about race. Nothing in the article remotely sounds racist.

  • http://twitter.com/Powerhouse233 Cornelius

    Your ignorance is astounding.

  • http://twitter.com/Powerhouse233 Cornelius

    How, how is it even remotely racist? Because he’s white and Sheed’s black? That’s all you got?